russelsheim
09-01-2010, 10:12 AM
Hi,
I would like to start this thread in order to discuss about the scores in chronological order.
Each time I watch a film I try to match the score from the soundtrack to each scene and put everything in chronological order
This is not as obvious as it can sound.
As you know very often soundtracks do not contain the entire score so there are several cues present in the film but not on the CD and some other times there are unused cues which are present on the CD but not in the film and it is not written anywhere that they are unused.
To make things even more complicated there is the music editor....who edits a scene with only a part of the cue (e.g. starting after 40'') or repeat the same track several times in different scenes (but present only once on the CD/Bootleg/Rec Sessions or what ever)
So I will start with an example so you can see what I mean.
I do not pretend what I have written down is 100% correct so please if you have a different opinion for the order of the tracks in a film please let me know, We can discuss about it. I admit some times I am completely lost and I don't know how to match a track of the CD in the film or the other way around.
Anybody interested in such a thread?
---------- Post added at 11:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 AM ----------
ROAD TO PERDITION (Thomas Newman)
This is the original order on CD
1. Rock Island, 1931 (03:22)
2. Wake (01:56)
3. Just the Feller (02:45)
4. Mr. Rance (01:39)
5. Bit Borrowers (02:25)
6. Murder (in four parts) (07:53)
7. Road to Chicago (03:06)
8. Reading Room (01:26)
9. Someday Sweetheart (03:07)
by Benjamin & John Spikes; performed by The Carleston Chasers
10. Meet Maguire (01:44)
11. Blood Dog (01:06)
12. Finn McGovern (02:12)
13. The Farm (02:10)
14. Dirty Money (03:11)
15. Rain Hammers (02:42)
16. A Blind Eye (02:27)
17. Nothing to Trade (02:25)
18. Queer Notions (02:45)
by Coleman Hawkins; performed by Fletcher Henderson & his Orchestra
19. Virgin Mary (01:34)
20. Shoot the Dead (02:25)
21. Grave Drive (01:21)
22. Cathedral (02:40)
includes excerpt from "Alma Redemptoris Mater"; performed by The Choir of King's College, Cambridge
23. There'll Be Some Changes Made (02:58)
by Billy Higgins & W. Benton Overstreet; performed by The Chicago Rhythm Kings
24. Ghosts (03:40)
25. Lexington Hotel, Room 1432 (01:44)
26. Road to Perdition (03:56)
27. Perdition - Piano Duet (01:39)
by John M. Williams; performed by Tom Hanks & Paul Newman
and here is my chronological order
I state when (approximately) the track should start in the movie
1. Rock Island, 1931 3.22
2. Wake 1.56 (6m25s)
3. There'll Be Some Changes Made [ft Chicago Rhythm Kings] 2.59 (08m59s)
4. Perdition - Piano Duet 1.39
5. Rain Hammers 2.42 (19m47s)
6. Finn Mcgovern 2.12 23m53s
7. Just The Feller 2.45 26m44s
8. Bit Borrowers 2.25 32m09s
9. Murder (In 4 Parts) 7.55 37m10s
10. Road To Chicago 3.06 45m16s
11. Reading Room 1.26 48m09s
12. A Blind Eye 2.27 50m30s
13. Meet Maguire 1.44 53m36s
14. Virgin Mary 1.34 57m37s
15. Grave Drive 1.21 01h00m08s
16. Blood Dog 1.06 01h01m43s
17. Queer Notions [ft Fletcher Henderson Orch] 2.47 01h02m53s
18. Shoot The Dead 2.26 01h06m19s
19. Dirty Money 3.11 01h:09m:37s
20. Someday Sweetheart [ft Charleston Chasers] 3.07 01h:12m:47s
21. Mr. Rance 1.39 01h:16m:11s
22. Nothing To Trade 2.25 01h:18m:06s
23. The Farm 2.10 01h:21m:52s
24. Cathedral 2.40 01h:26m:48s
25. Ghosts 3.40 01h:34m:11s
26. Lexington Hotel, Room 1432 1.46 01h:37m:40s
27. Road To Perdition 3.56 01h:39m:38s
Feel free to send your comments
I would like to start this thread in order to discuss about the scores in chronological order.
Each time I watch a film I try to match the score from the soundtrack to each scene and put everything in chronological order
This is not as obvious as it can sound.
As you know very often soundtracks do not contain the entire score so there are several cues present in the film but not on the CD and some other times there are unused cues which are present on the CD but not in the film and it is not written anywhere that they are unused.
To make things even more complicated there is the music editor....who edits a scene with only a part of the cue (e.g. starting after 40'') or repeat the same track several times in different scenes (but present only once on the CD/Bootleg/Rec Sessions or what ever)
So I will start with an example so you can see what I mean.
I do not pretend what I have written down is 100% correct so please if you have a different opinion for the order of the tracks in a film please let me know, We can discuss about it. I admit some times I am completely lost and I don't know how to match a track of the CD in the film or the other way around.
Anybody interested in such a thread?
---------- Post added at 11:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 AM ----------
ROAD TO PERDITION (Thomas Newman)
This is the original order on CD
1. Rock Island, 1931 (03:22)
2. Wake (01:56)
3. Just the Feller (02:45)
4. Mr. Rance (01:39)
5. Bit Borrowers (02:25)
6. Murder (in four parts) (07:53)
7. Road to Chicago (03:06)
8. Reading Room (01:26)
9. Someday Sweetheart (03:07)
by Benjamin & John Spikes; performed by The Carleston Chasers
10. Meet Maguire (01:44)
11. Blood Dog (01:06)
12. Finn McGovern (02:12)
13. The Farm (02:10)
14. Dirty Money (03:11)
15. Rain Hammers (02:42)
16. A Blind Eye (02:27)
17. Nothing to Trade (02:25)
18. Queer Notions (02:45)
by Coleman Hawkins; performed by Fletcher Henderson & his Orchestra
19. Virgin Mary (01:34)
20. Shoot the Dead (02:25)
21. Grave Drive (01:21)
22. Cathedral (02:40)
includes excerpt from "Alma Redemptoris Mater"; performed by The Choir of King's College, Cambridge
23. There'll Be Some Changes Made (02:58)
by Billy Higgins & W. Benton Overstreet; performed by The Chicago Rhythm Kings
24. Ghosts (03:40)
25. Lexington Hotel, Room 1432 (01:44)
26. Road to Perdition (03:56)
27. Perdition - Piano Duet (01:39)
by John M. Williams; performed by Tom Hanks & Paul Newman
and here is my chronological order
I state when (approximately) the track should start in the movie
1. Rock Island, 1931 3.22
2. Wake 1.56 (6m25s)
3. There'll Be Some Changes Made [ft Chicago Rhythm Kings] 2.59 (08m59s)
4. Perdition - Piano Duet 1.39
5. Rain Hammers 2.42 (19m47s)
6. Finn Mcgovern 2.12 23m53s
7. Just The Feller 2.45 26m44s
8. Bit Borrowers 2.25 32m09s
9. Murder (In 4 Parts) 7.55 37m10s
10. Road To Chicago 3.06 45m16s
11. Reading Room 1.26 48m09s
12. A Blind Eye 2.27 50m30s
13. Meet Maguire 1.44 53m36s
14. Virgin Mary 1.34 57m37s
15. Grave Drive 1.21 01h00m08s
16. Blood Dog 1.06 01h01m43s
17. Queer Notions [ft Fletcher Henderson Orch] 2.47 01h02m53s
18. Shoot The Dead 2.26 01h06m19s
19. Dirty Money 3.11 01h:09m:37s
20. Someday Sweetheart [ft Charleston Chasers] 3.07 01h:12m:47s
21. Mr. Rance 1.39 01h:16m:11s
22. Nothing To Trade 2.25 01h:18m:06s
23. The Farm 2.10 01h:21m:52s
24. Cathedral 2.40 01h:26m:48s
25. Ghosts 3.40 01h:34m:11s
26. Lexington Hotel, Room 1432 1.46 01h:37m:40s
27. Road To Perdition 3.56 01h:39m:38s
Feel free to send your comments