I just saw inception and couldn't help but think of the similarities to the original Matrix film.

So I ask any of you guys that might have seen the film.

Do you think Inception was better than the Matrix?

Or do you think the Matrix is still the best film that questions reality?

Matrix I think holds a better stance on what is real. It has more of a deception to it. People go about their lives without knowing what the real world is to them, because to them it what they see. With Inception however, there seems to be some sort of infinity to it. You could go deeper and deeper into dreams and not know which one is real.
I enjoyed both films.
Also, I noticed how they both use slow motion shots at times, but there seems to be more of a purpose to that in Inception. I think with the Matrix it was just something cool to toss in. With Inception, the slow motion is show how fast people are going in the real world compared to the real one.

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Matrix I think holds a better stance on what is real. It has more of a deception to it. People go about their lives without knowing what the real world is to them, because to them it what they see. With Inception however, there seems to be some sort of infinity to it. You could go deeper and deeper into dreams and not know which one is real.
I enjoyed both films.
Also, I noticed how they both use slow motion shots at times, but there seems to be more of a purpose to that in Inception. I think with the Matrix it was just something cool to toss in. With Inception, the slow motion is show how fast people are going in the real world compared to the real one.

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of course, it is really a good movie.

The Matrix blow Inception. Inception is good, but way too much hyped. Though Inception>>>>Matrix Reloaded>>>> Matrix Revolutions, but that's not the question.

I've always been interested in Lucid dreaming so when I read up about Inception I immediately became a squealing fangirl. The Matrix trilogy was amazing but it was quite hard for me to keep up between the three films (I'm a tad slow when it comes to sci-fi). Inception was an amazing film, it's become one of my favourites!

Inception was simply epic when i saw it.. but so were the matrix films, thats a tough question!

inception was better than matrix because the characters were more believable
and the acting was better
the music was better too, sorry guys
matrix had better choreography for fight scenes if it's any consolation
and dreaming isn't the same as programmed consciousness so i don't really get why people like to compare the two movies

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inception was better than matrix because the characters were more believable
and the acting was better
the music was better too, sorry guys
matrix had better choreography for fight scenes if it's any consolation
and dreaming isn't the same as programmed consciousness so i don't really get why people like to compare the two movies

Quoted for truth...

But I don't think that one is better than the other, The Matrix has it's own kind of appeal.
Inception blows my mind, I loved the film.

I prefer the Matrix. Inception wasn't bad, but it just wasn't the Matrix. O:

The Matrix. Why? Because it was more believable and made more sense. Also, this (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939332).

I prefer The Matrix.
I liked Inception but it didn't blew my mind as The Matrix.

I've seen both movies sober and stoned. With this in mind, I will say without a doubt Inception is the better movie.

The Matrix. Why? Because it was more believable and made more sense. Also, this (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939332).

everything around you not being actually real and just binaries, vs YOUR DREAMS?
sorry but a movie about dreams and their endless posibilities is far, FAR more believable than... well, matrix.

The Matrix. Why? Because it was more believable and made more sense. Also, this (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939332).

For that Matter This (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349)


everything around you not being actually real and just binaries, vs YOUR DREAMS?
sorry but a movie about dreams and their endless posibilities is far, FAR more believable than... well, matrix.

lol, well... Agreed

Fanboy answer: FUCK NO

Rational answer: I dunno. Haven't seen Inception and I'm not sure if I ever will.

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Well the Matrix is an instant classic and will be in the records for a very long time for its innovation, story, and the fact that the Wachowski bros merged deep philosophy with an Action film on the surface. I dont know about Inception though i'll have to see it first lol. Then i can say for sure.

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To me the first question is not whether one of the two movies is better than the other. I think their just different in Story and the rules in the "unreal world". Whereas the physic of the virtual world in Matrix is based on some kind of a "software" the physic of the dream world in Inception is based on the dreams which are based on mind. So if the physic can be entrapped by mind (for example by Neo) or changing things in the software, this lookes some kind of "realistic" if we are allowed to use this word. In Inception the changes of physic depends on what happens to the dreaming person (e.g. when the car is falling from the bridge everything is agravic - is this realy like that if you are dreaming). Concerning the story of rescuing mankind from Matrix and to put a mind in somebodys head, it is also different and can't be compared. I love both movies. But I hope, that the producers of Inception disclame about sequals. I think the special magic of the Matrix couldn't be repeated in the sequels. The first Matrix film workes better as a stand-alone film rather than a trilogy. Matrix reloaded is more or less good, but I realy don't like Matrix revolution, they exaggerated the story of the war and the fight between Neo and Mr. Smith...

To me the first question is not whether one of the two movies is better than the other. I think their just different in Story and the rules in the "unreal world". Whereas the physic of the virtual world in Matrix is based on some kind of a "software" the physic of the dream world in Inception is based on the dreams which are based on mind. So if the physic can be entrapped by mind (for example by Neo) or changing things in the software, this lookes some kind of "realistic" if we are allowed to use this word. In Inception the changes of physic depends on what happens to the dreaming person (e.g. when the car is falling from the bridge everything is agravic - is this realy like that if you are dreaming). Concerning the story of rescuing mankind from Matrix and to put a mind in somebodys head, it is also different and can't be compared. I love both movies. But I hope, that the producers of Inception disclame about sequals. I think the special magic of the Matrix couldn't be repeated in the sequels. The first Matrix film workes better as a stand-alone film rather than a trilogy. Matrix reloaded is more or less good, but I realy don't like Matrix revolution, they exaggerated the story of the war and the fight between Neo and Mr. Smith...

I agree with this. I never really thought to compare the two since one is about dreams and the other is a virtual world. Having said that, I like Inception more than The Matrix only because The Matrix's sequels went too far and never really captured the magic of the original movie. I do like both movies (the original Matrix) for the ideas they present and making me think. To be honest, I really hope there's no sequel to Inception, but given Hollywood's tendencies... Inception is guaranteed to have a sequel since it did pretty well at the box office.

I have not seen Matrix. So cant say anything but Inception is really mind blowing movie.

I liked the beginning better. It is a total mind bender, wondering if everything around you is just a dream. The matrix does not have that uncertainty, all just thought they were living a normal life, unlike the subjects in the induction.

The Matrix is surely one of the best movies ever made. Period. Tell you. Most people have a problem with the film for two reasons: the special effects and plot. First, I am not a great man of the martial arts, so I am very far from being an expert on this subject, but the action scenes were quite impressive.

as others have said, i don't think you can say one is necessarily better than the other. they're two very different films. i like them both, for different reasons.

i love inception. i like matrix. i need uncle scrooge comic!!

Spoiler Alert - don't read if you want to see Inception with a clean slate (or The Matrix if you just came out of a biodome or something :-)

The comparison is obvious. Both movies revolve around the interaction of two realities - or maybe more around the subject of perceived reality and actual reality. A dream (in reality - not in Inception) is very different from a virtual reality, sure. But mainly because you have very little control over the whole thing. Basically you just have to watch the show, that your subconscious puts on. But that's not really how the dreaming works in Inception. The agents seem pretty free to take deliberate actions to me, and thereby the difference between a dream and a virtual reality becomes much more marginal. In fact I would say, that they are actually creating a virtual reality in Inception, only with an organic computer instead of a silicon-based. Other than that the big difference is the scale. Only 4-5 people are involved in Inception, and the rest of the population are just these shell-like "projections", whereas every individual in the Matrix is an actual person in a cocoon.

You might as well say, that you can't compare Lord of the Rings to The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe because one takes place in Middle Earth and the other in Narnia.


To answer the original question: I think both movies are awesome and strong candidates for a blue-ray purchase, but somehow I feel that The Matrix is more of a cornerstone, and will be remembered more as a classic. And, though I can't put my finger on exactly why, in my humble opinion this is as it should be. So The Matix it is.

of course it is much better then him in story.

I like 'em both but I'd have to go with Inception. While the Matrix films were revolutionary for their time, Reeves kinda ruins it for me.

Reeves, Dicaprio - you just can't win in virtual mindscape films.

The Matrix blow Inception. Inception is good, but way too much hyped. Though Inception>>>>Matrix Reloaded>>>> Matrix Revolutions, but that's not the question.
This, imo.

"as others have said, i don't think you can say one is necessarily better than the other."

Can't disagree there. But I'd add another film to the title. One that is very similar to Matrix. SO much so, critics who've seen both films compare the two. That film is Dark City. Anyway, if I was to answer the question posed in the title, even though I agree with smoothiepants' first sentence as indicated above.....nail me down & my thoughts would be: Inception was great. The Matrix....greater. But better than both of them IMO, Dark City.

See while Inception & The Matrix were great, fun films, fact is they were hyped. Dark City, while not as hyped, still managed to win me over just by its trailer alone. That says something. It speaks volumes. Lots of volumes IMO.

Misinterpretations, Misinterpretations everywhere...

Don't forget Suckerpunch, has an almost identical ending message to Inception and action sequences to rival the Matrix. Still Matrix is a classic.

Two movies on the same relatively low level.
Difference? "Inception" is visually much more demanding, "The Matrix" is an expensive copy of Japanese action movies.
On the other hand, the music for "The Matrix" was better written. The pseudo-philosophical story in both films is indisputable bad.

Yeah even though the Matrix draws a lot of its material from what's come out of Japan I'd still have to go with it just on the basis that it changed the action genre. Both are great films in their own ways though.

inception is definitely better movie

The first Matrix beats Inception. Inception beats the two bad Matrix sequels, however.

The first Matrix beats Inception. Inception beats the two bad Matrix sequels, however.

Ditto.

The first "Matrix" is a highly-derivative but exceedingly kick-ass action flick with a dash of Philosophy 101 to spice it up, but success went to the Wachowski's heads and they really screwed the pooch on the sequels which managed to be both really pretentious and really dumb.

"Inception" is a heist flick with a cool MacGuffin that plays out almost like a design document for a neat video game. It has no real depth and its hyperlogical conception of dreaming seems quite bizarre and a bit of a missed opportunity. Not dumb, but it has sure fooled a lot of people into believing it's a profound meditation on reality.

Matrix 1 > Inception > Matrix 2 & 3. Same for films and scores, IMO.

Inception was way better. Matrix was great, but Inception is brilliant. A much more interesting cast to boot