TM
06-14-2010, 06:49 PM
It's that time of year again where all the biggest gaming news, trailers and demos of the year are released, talk about E3 and it's revelations here.

Personally I'm interested to see what Sony and Nintendo have to offer.

Smarty
06-14-2010, 06:59 PM
I'm watching the Microsoft press conference. They already dropped 1 bomb... Crytek is making an exclusive title for MS. Let's see what else they have up their sleeves.

Smarty
06-14-2010, 07:18 PM
Exclusive deal with ESPN. Omg M$...

Goren
06-14-2010, 08:26 PM
Didn't watch Microsoft because don't care, I'll watch Ubisoft and EA.

Sony and Nintendo are main event, so I'll watch those.

Neg
06-14-2010, 08:53 PM
Anyone hears wind of Fabula Nova Crystallis news, lemme know :)

Dr Faustus
06-14-2010, 08:57 PM
Hope the EA booth bursts into flames and the booth babes try to put it out with their underwear.

And crossing my fingers that The Last Guardian will get a date this year. :)

TM
06-14-2010, 09:17 PM
Looks like the baby 360 was real.

Goren
06-14-2010, 10:52 PM
My interest for Need For Speed has risen again... It's about time they got back to root.

Medal of Honor my brothers might be interested in it, they do own the other ones on PS2, GC.

Arigeitsu159
06-14-2010, 11:05 PM
I find it interesting how Sony and Microsoft have suddenly jumped on the "motion sensor" gaming bandwagon at the same time.

Nintendo may not be a powerhouse system or even considered a true "gamer's" system anymore, but it was coming up with this idea first is what has made them great in the video game market. I seriously wonder if Sony or Microsoft will be able to improve on the technology before Nintendo does.

Marceline
06-14-2010, 11:08 PM
I'm not sure anything at E3 will be able to top GENTLEMANLY RED RAPTOR for me.

Harkus
06-14-2010, 11:24 PM
Wow, not going to lie Microsoft were a joke. Three quarters of their conference was showing gimmicky titles for their gimmicky new creation Kinect, their project that promised so much but seems like will give so little. I'm pretty sure the eyetoy had more advanced games than that piece of shit... When they mentioned a game with Lucas Arts I got a little excited.... then they showed a demo and I cringed. In fact games for Kinect can be summarised in two words; Basic and Boring.

Metal Gear Solid Rising isn't about stealth..... 'nuff said.

I'm gutted about the exclusivity of Map Packs and Add-ons for Call of Duty for the next three years to be fair.

Gears of War and Halo have been rehashed, they showed nothing new at all. If someone told me they were showing Gears 2 and not Gears 3 I would have believed them.

However the reveal of their new 360 was a win. Shipping it today! That scored some points. Then they cheated and tried to buy the audience... weak.

A dissapointment. I hope Nintendo and Sony do better, they can't do much worse.

Aniki
06-15-2010, 12:48 AM
Is it me or did E3 this year beat the record with the number of FPS games presented in one show?

Darth Revan
06-15-2010, 12:49 AM
I've just had a cursory glance over the 'Newest showings' on E3 Expo (http://www.e3expo.com/), and there are some titles there which have my interest.

Star Wars The Old Republic
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Front Mission Evolved
Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days

Rather surprised to see a Splatterhouse remake, as I liked the original on the Megadrive, this has my interest.

One title I saw on that page though did make me cringe:

Star Wars The Force Unleashed II

From what I've seen of it, I seriously have to question GL's intention with the SW franchise.

I'll post more later when I have more time.

doomjockey
06-15-2010, 02:12 AM
MS conference was wack. I knew they would pimp their motion thing, but they barely had anything else. Their conference today = Nintendo 2 years ago. I really wanted to believe they had something, but looks like their trademark secrecy was over nothing at all. Well, ok, a slimmer Xbox. But idc bout that.

Don't much care about the other consoles either. Hopefully the developer panels cheer me up

chewey
06-15-2010, 02:16 AM
The trailer for Metal Gear Solid Rising looks pretty good. I'm not sure why you'd be surprised by it being an action game when its tagline has been - since it was announced - lightning bolt action.

It's not like I'm going to be upset that a spinoff of a series doesn't play like the games in the main series, especially when the game could potentially be really fun.

Chocolate Misu
06-15-2010, 02:43 AM
That Old Republic trailer is confusing......... yet delicious. I've been wanting to play it with my bf ^__^ BioWare <3

Hynad
06-15-2010, 05:44 AM
Microsoft's conference was really underwhelming. I like how Kinect can improve, or positively complement the overall user interfaces, but other than that, games for it are just not appealing to me one bit. They're basically releasing the same games that Nintendo already did for the Wii. Basically, they're completely not trying to convince me that their tech can do anything new for fun gaming.

The only thing that seems like it might be a real improvement over the Wii is with that Exercise game by Ubisoft. Seems like that kind of game might actually work better with that tech.

Other than that, nothing was announced there that we didn't already know about.

Gear of War 3 (more of the same, but HEY! there's a female character this time around!!! �_�)

Fable 3... great, no real gameplay demonstration or any kind of elaboration on the things we should expect for it. Plus, their damn graphics engine seems like it didn't even get any improvement... Game will most likely be fun anyway, but not really hyped for it at this point.

Halo: Reach ? ... (that's more than enough words written about it)

Oh, there was that Crytek exclusive that we didn't see a thing about it. Great. Plenty of blood. Soooo hyped... �_�

No real surprises. And over-abundance of copycat versions of 2-3 years old games that Nintendo already sold to all the casual gamers that cared... And a stupid stunt at the end to make sure they'd get good press.

All in all, I think even Nintendo's 2008 conference was better than that.

Goren
06-15-2010, 06:28 AM
Star Wars: The Old Republic :D Yes Please!

Also, crap load of FPS's. :/

Smarty
06-15-2010, 12:26 PM
The trailer for Metal Gear Solid Rising looks pretty good. I'm not sure why you'd be surprised by it being an action game when its tagline has been - since it was announced - lightning bolt action.

It's not like I'm going to be upset that a spinoff of a series doesn't play like the games in the main series, especially when the game could potentially be really fun.

^This.

Also the highlights for me were Gears of War 3, Peter Molyneux's accent and the Crytek exclusive.

The downer was the whole Kinect event and the absolute bottom of the barrel for me was the fitness game from Ubisoft... I mean seriously what the hell are they thinking?!

Goren
06-15-2010, 05:59 PM
Donkey Kong Country! :D

WANT!

TM
06-15-2010, 09:12 PM
Playstation plus.........


*dies*

Arigeitsu159
06-15-2010, 09:49 PM
Donkey Kong Country! :D

WANT!

Seriously?

Are they going back to the roots of the series?

Goren
06-15-2010, 10:04 PM
Seriously?

Are they going back to the roots of the series?

See for yourself :D
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-donkey-kong/101484

Gabe announcing Portal 2 will be on the PS3.

Twisted Metal looks fun, I did like Black.

That Sorcery games looks alright.

Neg
06-15-2010, 10:10 PM
So I hear they closed with XIV?

Classy :coolegg:

Smarty
06-15-2010, 10:13 PM
Nintendo pwned all this year. Sony was disappointing because they focused too much on PSmove. But at least they announced a release date for GT5 (November 2!) and they showed Twisted Metal for crying out loud! I cannot wait for Twisted Metal! Nice partnership with coca-cola though. That will definitely help sales, but I honestly don't want to imagine how much money they paid for that...

Hynad
06-15-2010, 11:25 PM
Nintendo wins this year for me.

- Zelda Skyward Sword
- Donkey Kong Country Returns (by Retro Studio, no less!!!)
- Metroid Other M releasing on August 31
- Kirby Epic Yarn looks adorably fun
- The 3DS (very nice, from the hands on I've read)
- Kid Ikarus finally returns!!! (on 3DS)

Not THAT many games that I care about, but those on the list are really stealing the show. Especially Kid Ikarus and Donkey Kong Country Returns.

Sony comes second. Mostly because unlike Microsoft, they actually showed some new games and made some announcements concerning games I care about (i.e. not casual centered).

- inFamous 2 (The first one was lacking in diversity, yet I found its gameplay addictive and really fun. They're addressing all of the first game's shortcomings so it can only get better... if you're like me and don't care about the superficial changes they did to Cole.)
- Gran Turismo 5 finally coming out on November 2
- Twisted Metal (Finally... And... I got a Twisted Metal 2 vibe out of what I've seen, which is highly welcome! :D)
- Pricing of the Move hardware is reasonable. And it releases on September 19 in NA. Now let's just hope we'll get some good games for it that are not overly simplified versions of Star Wars games.
- Kevin Butler delivered the best damn speech in E3 history. Pure Win.
- Very impressed by the versatility of Little Big Planet 2.
- PlayStation + seems like a nice deal, IF they do release stuff for it regularly enough. And indeed, the fact it doesn't intrudes into what PSN already offers, players can choose to go for more or stay with what is already a very nice bargain (free) for the features it offers compared to the competition. I think the PS+ service will grow over time. But if you're a regular qore subscriber, PS+ is a better deal I think.
- Lots of exclusive third party games content. Seems like Microsoft didn't try to delve deep in their pockets this year.

That's about it. Good stuff. Mostly satisfying stuff with a few greater exceptions like GT5 release date and Twisted Metal. But no big surprises.

I take points off their conference for completely forgetting The Last Guardian and for the fact that Twisted Metal was basically their only real surprise. Most of the rest we already knew was coming or are for kids and/or "casual" gamers.

Nintendo just brought a lot more nice surprises and stuff that we were not aware off weeks before the actual show.

And Microsoft just didn't bring anything on the table that I really care about.

Sackboy
06-15-2010, 11:27 PM
Sony at E3 was a bit underwelming for me this year because I felt like there weren't any big surprises. I was hoping for something new. Portal 2 did get me excited.

Chocolate Misu
06-15-2010, 11:51 PM
OMG, Skyward Sword!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a throw back to the N64 with elements of the original games on the nes! <3 I can't wait for it. ^__^

Ever since 2008 when Nintendo basically said "screw you" to all their fans, I had lost all faith in them............. But now............ I love them once again. With everything they've shown this year, I will definitely have no hesitations about buying a Wii.


I watched the Kid Icarus trailer, and I almost cried when Pit looked at the camera and said "Sorry to keep you waiting!"

Neg
06-16-2010, 12:03 AM
Voice is still fairly gruff :) I feel a bit better about the redesign.

No Zeke in the trailer? SHAME ON YOU!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uAMnsqqI-0


Yeah, better here than my lonely little thread, mir?

Sackboy
06-16-2010, 12:07 AM
I'm sorry, but I've had such a high expectation of Kid Icarus that I was dissapointed in the trailer. I'm just not happy with the music, voices, design style, etc. It seems like they made it just to make it. I donno, it's hard to explain. :/

Marceline
06-16-2010, 12:29 AM
Man :( Ocarina of Time and Super Street Fighter IV! There is no way I can avoid getting a 3DS now. ; ;

rezo
06-16-2010, 12:29 AM
I'm sorry, but I've had such a high expectation of Kid Icarus that I was dissapointed in the trailer. I'm just not happy with the music, voices, design style, etc. It seems like they made it just to make it. I donno, it's hard to explain. :/

It's reviving a series that has been dormant for over 2 decades(?), so it's not like there would be much of a reason to make it at this point. But they needed something new to show off the 3DS, Star Fox is already coming out on the system with a remake of the N64 game, people have been asking for a new Kid Icarus game for a long time and Pit has wings so...bam! Kid Icarus 3D flying adventure.

Sackboy
06-16-2010, 12:37 AM
It's reviving a series that has been dormant for over 2 decades(?), so it's not like there would be much of a reason to make it at this point. But they needed something new to show off the 3DS, Star Fox is already coming out on the system with a remake of the N64 game, people have been asking for a new Kid Icarus game for a long time and Pit has wings so...bam! Kid Icarus 3D flying adventure.

I've always viewed the original Kid Icarus game as some-what surreal in style, much like the original Metroid, both of which were created by the same person. This new version, however, is awfuly cute and bright.

Edit: Oh crap! I just read about Paper Mario for the 3DS! Now I'm excited!

Link! (http://kotaku.com/5564462/paper-mario-brings-2d-to-the-3ds)

Neg
06-16-2010, 12:40 AM
Of Myths and Monsters was already cute, from what I remember of it.

Goren
06-16-2010, 12:46 AM
If sources are correct there will be Chain Chomp partner! If so sign me up! :D

rezo
06-16-2010, 01:07 AM
Of Myths and Monsters was already cute, from what I remember of it.

Yeah, the image art for the series was always cute. But the original was an NES game, so regardless of what the artists had in mind you were going to end up with a tiny sprite hopping around sparsely colored tiles in front of an often pitch black background.

Sackboy
06-16-2010, 01:12 AM
My favorite E3 review so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rABFXlGqaSI&playnext_from=TL&videos=HUNHJDCmHP8&feature=sub

Pisces Knight
06-16-2010, 01:25 AM
it seems microsoft is betting alot with natal (IDC for the other name).

Chocolate Misu
06-16-2010, 01:34 AM
Don't care about the Sony stuff but I wanted to see the Portal 2 trailer. It made me laugh :)



I'm buying it for my 360 hehehehe.

Hynad
06-16-2010, 01:53 AM
I'm posting it here, just because it needs to be seen and heard again and again.

Most epic E3 speech in history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCJwQQj9Eao

The guy deserved a frikin' standing ovation. �_�

Chocolate Misu
06-16-2010, 02:06 AM
^ He is always hilarious. Does he write his own material?

Neg
06-16-2010, 03:52 AM
He's too egalitarian, mang.

We all serve one master, one KING and his name is......SONY, FOREVER MAY HE REIGN!

Ah, I do so love being a fanboy~

Hynad
06-16-2010, 04:48 AM
^ He is always hilarious. Does he write his own material?

I don't know if Jerry Lambert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Butler_%28character%29) writes his own material. I think it's doubtful, knowing how publicity works. But it's not impossible that he shares his own input into the mix.

One thing is sure though, he really nails how to deliver it.

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-16-2010, 05:15 AM
Man :( Ocarina of Time and Super Street Fighter IV! There is no way I can avoid getting a 3DS now. ; ;

But don't you already OWN those games on other platforms? I mean why remake Ocarina of Time when it's already on N64, has a Master Quest remake, on 2 different gamecube discs, and is on the virtual console?

As for Sky Sword the Twilight in Wind Waker style makes it look like a cheap shriek knock off. It's an early trailer so any major game mechanics as well as characters and story won't be too prevalent but I think that wrist rocket and staff whip look like they could be really fun.

TK
06-16-2010, 05:47 AM
I thought this was kind of amusing:

http://www.cracked.com/article_18608_the-day-gaming-industry-died-impressions-from-e3-2010.html

Sackboy
06-16-2010, 06:11 AM
I thought this was kind of amusing:

http://www.cracked.com/article_18608_the-day-gaming-industry-died-impressions-from-e3-2010.html


"Oh, wait. We have Kinectimals. It's a virtual pet simulator. Microsoft demonstrated it by having a young Asian girl take the stage and air-pet her virtual tiger."

lol

Smarty
06-16-2010, 06:19 AM
Kinect presentation was horrible. Only good thing that came out of that conference was Gears of War 3 and the new Xbox360. I have the outrageous expectation for this model to actually work.

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-16-2010, 06:20 AM
Kinect presentation was horrible. Only good thing that came out of that conference was Gears of War 3 and the new Xbox360. I have the outrageous expectation for this model to actually work.

They made it look lkinda like the alienwere towers.

Jitan Toraibaru
06-16-2010, 02:16 PM
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=zHAawG5Dm5Z5aQ0GYq45A4h4l5k2TGxc
MGS3 Snake Eater, moving - anonymous video donor.

Looks amazing, simply beautiful...I just want this piece of kit SO much! D:

Smarty
06-16-2010, 04:14 PM
I'm so seriously thinking about buying a 3DS. If it's reasonably priced I'm sold man.

Dr Faustus
06-16-2010, 04:17 PM
New Zelda, peeps. New ZELDA.

Hynad
06-16-2010, 05:15 PM
New Zelda, peeps. New ZELDA.

With unresponsive sword controls!!!! HOURRAY!!!!

Dr Faustus
06-16-2010, 05:25 PM
Shigeru claimed it was wi-fi interference. http://i49.tinypic.com/2rdz3g9.gif I think he was just crap.

I played TP on cube so don't know if it was any good waving about.

Jitan Toraibaru
06-16-2010, 05:38 PM
They have half a year to tweak it...no problem, really.

Marceline
06-16-2010, 05:43 PM
But don't you already OWN those games on other platforms? I mean why remake Ocarina of Time when it's already on N64, has a Master Quest remake, on 2 different gamecube discs, and is on the virtual console?

I have one of the Gamecube releases of Ocarina, but I never have my Gamecube hooked up really so it doesn't get played much these days. I just like the convenience of having stuff on handheld systems!

And I don't own Streetfighter IV :(

Smarty
06-16-2010, 05:47 PM
With unresponsive sword controls!!!! HOURRAY!!!!

All the people who tried it out it later in the booths said it was just fine. And I've seen videos. It's fine.

arthurgolden
06-16-2010, 05:48 PM
All the people who tried it out it later in the booths said it was just fine. And I've seen videos. It's fine.

x2

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-16-2010, 07:06 PM
I have one of the Gamecube releases of Ocarina, but I never have my Gamecube hooked up really so it doesn't get played much these days. I just like the convenience of having stuff on handheld systems!

And I don't own Streetfighter IV :(

oh, I thought you had mentioned Street Fighter 4 at some point but it might have been TK. I get to two mixed up sometimes.


I still don't like how Nintendo is all DS than one year later Smaller DS that works and looks better in more colors, than a few years after that a bigger DS than 1 year later a brand new upgraded DS. The could have just made it bigger form the start and implement all the upgrades of the Light from the get go.

Hynad
06-16-2010, 07:08 PM
All the people who tried it out it later in the booths said it was just fine. And I've seen videos. It's fine.

Many (most) people said that it played well enough, but didn't register some movements when they'd waved faster in the heat of battle.

rezo
06-16-2010, 07:46 PM
People can figure out the correct speed to move while playing through the tutorial. It'll be like learning how to dragon punch in SF2 all over again.

Hynad
06-16-2010, 08:18 PM
Yeah, non one to one sword control for the win! �_�

rezo
06-16-2010, 08:50 PM
If people can regularly whiff special moves in a genre that's survived for decades and not have it ruin their experience then they can manage a motion controlled sword they've decided controls well enough after a 10 minute demo.

Chocolate Misu
06-16-2010, 08:55 PM
I have to say the game play for Portal 2 looks frikin fantastic!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQLpU0T-Sow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=245zrNHvDNk

Neg
06-16-2010, 10:31 PM
Finally someone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW5HxgMYRto) more excited about PS3D than 3DS.

Also booth babes.

I knew I could count on you Phil <3 DEFRANCO NATION REPRESENT.

TM
06-16-2010, 10:40 PM
fuck 3D

Neg
06-16-2010, 10:41 PM
I'm with ya on that, but anyone saying Sony over Nintendo stuff this week is going to get a hug from me. Cuz like fanboy mode ENGAGED.

TM
06-16-2010, 10:58 PM
Nintendo > Sony

Neg
06-16-2010, 10:59 PM
/hugs TM

TM
06-16-2010, 11:09 PM
NO

topopoz
06-16-2010, 11:28 PM
Fuck 3D

=D

Sackboy
06-16-2010, 11:31 PM
Neg. Silent Hill 8. (http://kotaku.com/5565483/silent-hill-8-coming-to-xbox-360-ps3-in-2011)

/hugs TM and Neg

Marceline
06-16-2010, 11:33 PM
The combat seems to have an emphasis on using everyday objects, like glass bottles and wooden chairs, for survival

looooooooooooove this

also the world needs less 3D and more games that look like Odin Sphere ; ;

Sackboy
06-16-2010, 11:38 PM
/hugs Mandi

Arigeitsu159
06-17-2010, 12:02 AM
Neg. Silent Hill 8. (http://kotaku.com/5565483/silent-hill-8-coming-to-xbox-360-ps3-in-2011)

/hugs TM and Neg

8? What the heck happened to 6 and 7?

I hope SH8 has a Dog Ending.

Sackboy
06-17-2010, 12:04 AM
I was wondering the same thing about 6 and 7 but was afraid to ask on the count of loosing "cool points" with Neg.

Arigeitsu159
06-17-2010, 12:06 AM
I was wondering the same thing about 6 and 7 but was afraid to ask on the count of loosing "cool points" with Neg.

lol. I read on that page that they may be counting Silent Hill Origins as 5, Silent Hill Homecoming as 6, and Shattered Memories as 7...

I guess that makes sense...

chewey
06-17-2010, 12:07 AM
Yeah, non one to one sword control for the win! �_�
It's still one-to-one even though you can't wave around like a retard. Is it really that big a deal you can't fight like that, though? Thrashing around to win has plagued the Wii since forever, so I'm glad they've limited the sword to semi-realistic... limitations.

But yeah, I've only heard praise for the controls from people that have had hands-on experience with the game. It's not like Nintendo are known for releasing unpolished games anyway.


I'm with ya on that, but anyone saying Sony over Nintendo stuff this week is going to get a hug from me. Cuz like fanboy mode ENGAGED.
It's pretty much a fact that Sony just catered to their fanboys at E3 this year. And by that I mean, they didn't really show anything interesting but they didn't have to - they knew their retarded followers would eat it up anyway.

Goren
06-17-2010, 12:08 AM
SH 1
2
3
4
Homecoming
Zero/Origins
Shattered Memories
8

Sackboy
06-17-2010, 12:13 AM
I knew about Homecoming being part 5, but not about Zero-Origins and Shattered Memories being 6 and 7.

Neg
06-17-2010, 12:19 AM
What the shit? Origins is 0...

Maybe the 2 remake will be 7? Or was that footage from 8? Maybe we're just gonna be the Voltron of gaming :D

Nothing wrong with catering to awesome fans :)

Dr Faustus
06-17-2010, 12:21 AM
Neg keeps a tally? Oh hell. What's lower than zero?

Neg
06-17-2010, 12:22 AM
I give out rep points. Of COURSE I keep a tally.

I've got a huge spread sheet and everything.

Dr Faustus
06-17-2010, 12:24 AM
Elmo has got to get me +1


Neg
06-17-2010, 12:26 AM
No, but this guy would have


Chocolate Misu
06-17-2010, 12:27 AM
Out of curiosity, how far in the negitives am I?...........

Dr Faustus
06-17-2010, 12:28 AM


Please resume normal thread functions. Sorry for the interruption.

Sackboy
06-17-2010, 12:28 AM
snuffaluffagus ftw!


Neg
06-17-2010, 12:29 AM
You're good times. Damn good times. @ Misu since you bastards are out ninja'ing me :mad:

Chocolate Misu
06-17-2010, 12:34 AM
^__^



snuffaluffagus ftw!





You know........... if Snuffy had a 3d adventure game........ I would play it.....

Neg
06-17-2010, 12:39 AM
I just watched the trailer and it looks AMAZING :D

Everyone's complaining in the comments. Same as with Infamous 2. People just like to bitch about everything ;;

Jitan Toraibaru
06-17-2010, 01:00 AM
Ain't that the truth! XD

Hynad
06-17-2010, 01:27 AM
It's still one-to-one even though you can't wave around like a retard. Is it really that big a deal you can't fight like that, though? Thrashing around to win has plagued the Wii since forever, so I'm glad they've limited the sword to semi-realistic... limitations.


Apologetics much, eh? ^^,

But I do agree with the other part. Nintendo has an extremely good track record when it comes to controls. So I'm still open.

But 1:1 controls that don't register all your movements is not 1:1. ^_-

In all the videos I've watched, Link would do some random moves when the player would do something different. It didn't happened that much, but it DID happen. Considering Nintendo's core games always have stellar controls with flawless responsiveness, I can't help but be worried that this control scheme might end up being a step back. At least with the limited tech inside the Wii-motion + (at least for the prevalent sword play that is core to the series. The other accessories can only be more enjoyable with it, especially the Whip and Bow.).

chewey
06-17-2010, 01:55 AM
Apologetics much, eh? ^^,
Not really. I think I'm being more realistic/not pessimistic than apologetic here.

Swinging around like a retard is physically impossible with a big sword and also pretty much useless in a battle. Those guys were doing it wrong anyway.


But 1:1 controls that don't register all your movements is not 1:1. ^_-
If the game can translate every attacking motion you do to the screen perfectly - it's 1:1. I really don't see how the game stopping you from swinging the sword all over the place makes it not-1:1. OBNOXIOUS SMILEY FACE


In all the videos I've watched, Link would do some random moves when the player would do something different. It didn't happened that much, but it DID happen. Considering Nintendo's core games always have stellar controls with flawless responsiveness, I can't help but be worried that this control scheme might end up being a step back.
I've watched 4 videos or so and I've never seen this happen. It's possible there's disturbance or it's possible the controls need ironing out. I don't know! A glitch occurring at a public demo roughly year before release isn't unheard of, though. You can't really say the controls are (going to be) trash because of a few hiccups now.

The controls look great in every demo I've seen and I've yet to find a bad word spoken about them.

topopoz
06-17-2010, 02:03 AM
I liked how Sorcery turned out.

Hynad
06-17-2010, 03:13 AM
Not really. I think I'm being more realistic/not pessimistic than apologetic here.

Swinging around like a retard is physically impossible with a big sword and also pretty much useless in a battle. Those guys were doing it wrong anyway.


If the game can translate every attacking motion you do to the screen perfectly - it's 1:1. I really don't see how the game stopping you from swinging the sword all over the place makes it not-1:1. OBNOXIOUS SMILEY FACE


I've watched 4 videos or so and I've never seen this happen. It's possible there's disturbance or it's possible the controls need ironing out. I don't know! A glitch occurring at a public demo roughly year before release isn't unheard of, though. You can't really say the controls are (going to be) trash because of a few hiccups now.

The controls look great in every demo I've seen and I've yet to find a bad word spoken about them.

You haven't seen anything wrong with it, but I did. You didn't watch the videos that I did, obviously, or just didn't pay attention.

The fact that you try to make me say things that I didn't (that the controls are, or are going to be trash) is proof enough to me that discussing this with you is pointless. You're sold already, I'm waiting to experience it first hand before passing final judgment.

I'm not being pessimistic either. As I already made clear, I expect flawless, stellar controls from a game like Zelda, as I've been used to those for years now. If the controls aren't top notch, then as I said, it's to the detriment of the product, compared to what came before. I expect great things from a Zelda game as I've been a fan of every game in the series since the very first game (that includes Zelda II, btw) and all of them had perfect controls (except maybe for the 2 N64 outings, but that's mostly due to the fact I never liked the N64 controller).

So yeah, call me pessimistic because I voice my worries about a game we haven't played yet instead of praising it blindly. *sigh*

Neg
06-17-2010, 04:02 AM
Wow, it looks cartoony. That's an unexpected change.

chewey
06-17-2010, 04:06 AM
You haven't seen anything wrong with it, but I did. You didn't watch the videos that I did, obviously, or just didn't pay attention.
No, I haven't seen the videos you've seen or read the reviews you've read. Still, I've only seen people saying the motion control works really well. Given the different experiences people have had with the game, it seems possible to me that any errors people are having stem from it being an open demo with a fair bit of disturbance. It's also possible there are glitches in the mechanics, but I'm pretty confident that they'll be patched up with another year of development time. Either way, Nintendo demonstrated that they've got 1:1 motion control working well with Link's swordplay (for the most part, if you like). This has a fair bit of people excited because of the depth this can add to boss fights/puzzles/whatever.


The fact that you try to make me say things that I didn't (that the controls are, or are going to be trash) is proof enough to me that discussing this with you is pointless.
You never said the controls are bad?

Well...


With unresponsive sword controls!!!! HOURRAY!!!!
You then went on to suggest the game doesn't have 1:1 motion control because you can't wave a sword around like a spastic.

Many (most) people said that it played well enough, but didn't register some movements when they'd waved faster in the heat of battle.

...

Yeah, non one to one sword control for the win! �_�
You were definitely saying the controls aren't good and it doesn't really look like you were optimistic about the end result...

and you should be. I mean, you even said it yourself,

Nintendo has an extremely good track record when it comes to controls.

...

Considering Nintendo's core games always have stellar controls with flawless responsiveness,
but then went on to say something that completely disregards everything you've just said

I can't help but be worried that this control scheme might end up being a step back.
which suggests you're being pretty pessimistic about things.


You're sold already, I'm waiting to experience it first hand before passing final judgment.
If you say so!


So yeah, call me pessimistic because I voice my worries about a game we haven't played yet instead of praising it blindly. *sigh*
I think you should probably read what I've said it again. I've said that the game disabling spastic thrashes does not mean the motion control isn't 1:1. I've said that any glitches there are in the game are very, very likely to be wiped out before release given Nintendo's track record. That's about it.

*sigh*


Wow, it looks cartoony. That's an unexpected change.
The game is really pretty.



A lot of people seem to be upset about the design of the monsters, but I think they look pretty great :x

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-17-2010, 06:18 AM
^__^






You know........... if Snuffy had a 3d adventure game........ I would play it.....

3 player co-op mode, p1 the trunk, p2 the front legs, & p3 the hind quarters.

Also Morgan Webb is looking rather delicious. For a while when G4 took over they had her in make up and clothes that didn't make her look to good and I was afraid she was sick or had work done but it looks like she's gotten them to balance her look between glam and the girl next door from tech tv.


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Chocolate Misu
06-17-2010, 06:24 AM
^ Wow...... I almost didn't recognize her. She looks cuter without all the makeup.

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-17-2010, 06:29 AM
I agree natural tech tv girl next door who's also a nerd but is also mainstream white America hot as well is far superior to whore painted filtered G4 artificial Morgan.
She's like 30 something now and is married to a guy that from the look of him, I neither love nor hate.

Arigeitsu159
06-17-2010, 06:17 PM
The game is really pretty.



A lot of people seem to be upset about the design of the monsters, but I think they look pretty great :x

Looks like a cross between Twilight Princess and Wind Waker... looks good. Can't wait to see the polished game.

Chocolate Misu
06-17-2010, 09:31 PM
I was interested in the new North Star game, but the trailer here seems like its just going to be a generic fighter :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdrn6_7v_Tc

Pisces Knight
06-17-2010, 11:40 PM
it took me 2 days, but now i can say it regarding the 3ds:

HOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

i am SO getting one.

Chocolate Misu
06-17-2010, 11:46 PM
That's the exact same phrase my bf used :p

Are you guys seeing actual gameplay with it? Link please?

Pisces Knight
06-17-2010, 11:57 PM
i saw a tech demo of metal gear solid 3

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 12:08 AM
You mean this (http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=zHAawG5Dm5Z5aQ0GYq45A4h4l5k2TGxc) ?

'cause it's a beautiful looking piece of footage! :D

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 12:12 AM
Oooooooooh! Very nice! And I love the paint choices on them too. I'm sold.

Pisces Knight
06-18-2010, 12:20 AM
one big ass nail on the psp's coffin it seems.
although i still need to get a 2000, for the collection.

*now patiently waits for a sony copycat of the 3ds*

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 12:21 AM
Yup, I know I want one, that's for sure. XD;
Resident Evil Revelations...and hell, I'd like to see an Ace Attorney on the system! Investigation Phases - in 3D?!?!

YES FUCKING PLEASE! =D

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 12:25 AM
^ If anything that will give them a better way to make another investigations game for AA series. It was kind of awkward finding clues when you tap 50 times in the same spot and it won't give you the clue that's there.

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 12:43 AM
I...never had that problem. XD; Strange!

Sackboy
06-18-2010, 01:01 AM
I can't imagin how many cramps the 3DS will be causing. The fact that the system has to remain still and in the right position at all times to enjoy the 3D effects is fail.

Hynad
06-18-2010, 01:14 AM
The sweet spot has been reported to be permissive enough to be comfortable with the device.

Sackboy... exactly HOW do you look at your handhelds' screens, exactly? �_�

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 01:17 AM
Yeah, it's reported that you only have a flicker of instances where the sweet spots change or aren't projecting effectively in a position...
it's apparently not even an annoyance, merely something that you get used to quickly!

In NO single hands-on report is it stated that the 3D fails comfort-wise because of the way it works...so you can already dismiss that notion.

Sackboy
06-18-2010, 01:31 AM
But how long will that comfort last?

chewey
06-18-2010, 01:52 AM
When you start cramping up you can just turn the 3D off.

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 02:02 AM
I'm more excited about the analog control. My thumb seriously cramps up on my Zelda ds :( And I absolutely hated playing KH 358/2 that way..... hurt so bad.....

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 02:05 AM
Stop picking at things you clearly don't know a great deal about - 3D is optional via the slider so you can disable it, and most people will buy the console for the Power/Graphics upgrade alongside it anyway...there's VERY little downside to the console from what we've been told so far, and reports continue to be glowingly positive.

All we can do now is wait and demo a console ourselves when they decide to do so!

Tanis
06-18-2010, 02:11 AM
Nintendo won this E3.
3DS looks epic.

chewey
06-18-2010, 02:14 AM
I'm more excited about the analog control. My thumb seriously cramps up on my Zelda ds :( And I absolutely hated playing KH 358/2 that way..... hurt so bad.....

The analog stick looks really great too. The PSP's little nub isn't all that good.

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 02:14 AM
There's a reason the DS is the MOST successful console of all time...now let's see if the 3DS has the ability to smash that record and establish itself as the New king of handhelds!

*Spoiler* It does! :3 *Spoiler*

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 02:22 AM
The analog stick looks really great too. The PSP's little nub isn't all that good.

Ugh, tell me about. I tried playing a little Crisis Core and a Phantasy Star game on one of bf's psps once, and that stick was just so weird to move. :( They should have some kind of attachment for it to make it an actual joystick.



AH! The paint looks so beautiful! :swoon:

http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=zHAawG5Dm5aYfA3Zckr%2BQ4h4l5k2TGx c

I would love to see a special edition Zelda one, I would totally buy it. Not that I'm ever going to get rid of my Zelda ds <3

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 02:29 AM
Capcoms forums have users beavering away...somebody already came up with:



...I'd buy one like that in a heartbeat - I LOVE Umbrella. XD;

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 02:31 AM
Holy shnikeys I just thought of something that's blown my brain right out of my head........




POKEMON ON THE 3DS

Hynad
06-18-2010, 03:25 AM
The fact that they made the top screen bigger and widescreen, added more horsepower (seriously, that thing will end up delivering graphics of Gamecube quality, if not better), added glasses less 3D and made the sexy look of the DSi even sexier has got me really exited.

Day one purchase... with Kid Ikarus. :D

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 03:40 AM
I still kinda laugh when people complain that there's no GBA support.

The GBA's been dead for years - if you want to play the games, find a cheap GBA/Micro GBA and play it that way, 'cause Nintendo moved on a LOOOONG time ago. It's time people realised that and moved on too! :P

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 03:42 AM
^ Hold your tongue! It's still very important to us who are on the quest t have every pokemon in existence. :p




Believe me. I know.




Should I be ashamed?

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 03:47 AM
What can I say, Pokemon holds little value to me...XD;

TK
06-18-2010, 04:49 AM
I don't think Pokemon would change much from being on the 3DS?

chewey
06-18-2010, 04:54 AM
Did anybody say it would? Edit: Yes, they did. And I agree it wouldn't really change anything.

Either way, I think I've just about lost interest in Pokemon games now. Except for Crystal, since it's awesome.

Marceline
06-18-2010, 04:55 AM
I'm mostly excited about being able to play fighting games well on the 3DS, since the analog looks like it'll be great for them. I'm also really psyched about the possibility of neat ps2 ports.

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 05:01 AM
I don't think Pokemon would change much from being on the 3DS?

With Black+White going with a more 3d look with the settings, Id say it will look fantastic on the 3ds.


Here's pics of what B+W.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewj9NsIQpGY

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 05:06 AM
I'm mostly excited about being able to play fighting games well on the 3DS

http://e3.nintendo.com/images/ctr/othergames/ssf4/0.pnghttp://e3.nintendo.com/images/ctr/othergames/ssf4/1.png

Mmmmm, tastes like Awesome. :3

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-18-2010, 05:48 AM
^ Hold your tongue! It's still very important to us who are on the quest t have every pokemon in existence. :p




Believe me. I know.




Should I be ashamed?

No need to get all misty eyed over it Misu.

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 05:50 AM
^
No, I'm usually overjoyed about it :p

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-18-2010, 05:53 AM
If you don't lock the door before you shower I just might pikachu!

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 05:53 AM
Give me a reason why I shouldn't just turn you all to Ash? 8D

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-18-2010, 05:55 AM
Because Ekans see celarly now the rain is gone.

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 06:01 AM
Yeah, but the chill of the storm left me Koffing And Weezing for days!

Goren
06-18-2010, 06:04 AM
Call me when they have a better fighting game for the 3DS. I didn't like Street Fighter IV. :/

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-18-2010, 06:07 AM
The best Star Trek movie is The Poliwrath of Khan.

Tanis
06-18-2010, 06:59 AM
^ Hold your tongue! It's still very important to us who are on the quest t have every pokemon in existence. :p
Believe me. I know.
Should I be ashamed?
Get a PSP.
Hack It.
Emulate GBA.
Tah-DAH!

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 07:01 AM
^
Eh? Why would I do that when my Zelda ds has a gba slot? :confused:

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-18-2010, 07:05 AM
So you can portable your Playstation while you advance your Gameboy dawg!

Jitan Toraibaru
06-18-2010, 07:11 AM
I prefer to Cast my Dreams while being a Virtual Boy, dawg! :D

Smarty
06-18-2010, 07:32 AM
Metal Gear Solid 3 was already announced for 3DS and I cannot wait. How much do you think this thing will cost though? No details on the price tag yet but there's a pretty good chance it'll be something completely absurd... (like the PS3 at launch).

Also I noticed in the trailer for Kid Icarus that it didn't use synthesized sound. Do you think that the 3DS won't use cartridges? Or if it does, they'll have huge ammounts of storage capacity?

Chocolate Misu
06-18-2010, 07:34 AM
Nintendo is usually the cheapest of the consoles when it comes to pricing. Probably 200-250ish...

Tanis
06-18-2010, 07:45 AM
^Eh? Why would I do that when my Zelda ds has a gba slot? :confused:
Because the emulator is better than the original system.

I can play a plethora of games w/o worrying about ruining my original games and use features like Gamestates and fast-forwarding though bullshit.

RAMChYLD
06-18-2010, 09:07 AM
I'll hang on to my original DS once I get the 3DS. Just like how I'm hanging on to my old GBC just because.

chewey
06-18-2010, 12:15 PM
Metal Gear Solid 3 was already announced for 3DS and I cannot wait. How much do you think this thing will cost though? No details on the price tag yet but there's a pretty good chance it'll be something completely absurd... (like the PS3 at launch).

Also I noticed in the trailer for Kid Icarus that it didn't use synthesized sound. Do you think that the 3DS won't use cartridges? Or if it does, they'll have huge ammounts of storage capacity?

They're using carts that are slightly (physically) bigger than the DS ones. For starters, the maximum storage capacity will be 2GB.

Smarty
06-18-2010, 02:25 PM
They're using carts that are slightly (physically) bigger than the DS ones. For starters, the maximum storage capacity will be 2GB.

Yeah I really didn't expect Nintendo to not use cartridges on a portable system :p Still 2GB is pretty huge for a cartridge and will give developers a lot of room to work with which is good. The UMD on the PSP has 2 GB of storage capacity. If Nintendo managed 2 GB in a cartridge how much room will Sony's successor to the PSP have? o.O

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-18-2010, 06:13 PM
[QUOTE=Smarty;1495546]

Also I noticed in the trailer for Kid Icarus that it didn't use synthesized sound. QUOTE]

Non synth you say? It's about time Nintendo gets their music and dialogue on pare with everyone else. Was I the only one who became very happy then very disappointed when they first started up Twilight Princess and was greeted with what at first sounded like real music than became all to obvious synthesized?

Dr Faustus
06-19-2010, 01:55 AM
A Zelda OoT "revisit" on the 3DS is coming. Double Zelda goodness.

http://www.1up.com/media?id=3822755http://www.1up.com/media?id=3822752http://www.1up.com/media?id=3822750

Yay, Epona. :)

Goren
06-19-2010, 02:22 AM
I am liking them graphics. :D

Looks like the model they used for Soul Calibur 2.

Neg
06-19-2010, 10:02 PM
No one reported on the hair styling game? HOW DARE YOU :mad:

I can only count on Spoony to take care of me. I KNOW THIS NOW.

Goren
06-19-2010, 10:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnnjv0EARBI&

Neg
06-19-2010, 10:24 PM
I'm honestly kinda 50/50 on that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMLw9t78Z1E

Screw all you people, I'm buying it! Industry-backed!

I mean, shit, I own Blow Dry. Alan Rickman is the greatest hair stylist EVAR!

Tom Toonami Tunes
06-20-2010, 07:18 AM
Hello, You've reached Alan Rickman at 555-0122 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lSH5Ne6RZE)


So I see these trailers for the Unleashed and Kotor MMORPG games and have to say why don't they just stop it already with the prequel era stuff? There's only 2 things that can possibly come form it either the stories are predictable, boring, and mundane or they contradict and ignore the already established stories, characters, & Plot points. As Vader's apprentice you just can't defeat Vader.

As for KOTOR MMO why is it set with the sith taking over with an empire and the jedi almost wiped out again? There must be new stories to tell in star wars so why are we always gong over the same things over and over again?

Smarty
06-21-2010, 08:36 AM
I knew I wasn't the only one impressed by Deus Ex Human Revolution! Yay for Spoony! Shame on you people for not caring about Deus Ex :(

Sarah
06-21-2010, 08:58 AM
Metal Gear Solid 3 was already announced for 3DS and I cannot wait. How much do you think this thing will cost though? No details on the price tag yet but there's a pretty good chance it'll be something completely absurd... (like the PS3 at launch).

nintendo has seem pretty dedicated for quite some time to not releasing things at absurd prices. the handhelds even moreso than the consoles.

it's a business model that's been working really really fucking well for them, so there's no reason they'd change it.

they don't go with state of the art hardware and with good reason, at some point the gains relative to the price increase just isn't worth it.

2gb storage media really isn't that big. 2gb microsd cards have been available for almost 5 years now, if you want to go with regular sd as a comparison, even much longer.

tl;dr version: first hunch is 199. there's no way in fuck it'd be over 299.

Tanis
06-21-2010, 09:00 AM
I kind of hope the capacity of the cards are around 8GB or so.

That way even top level PS2 games can get on the system.
^_^

chewey
06-21-2010, 10:21 AM
They've already said the cartridgess will have a maximum capacity of 2GB. It's possible that later in the life of the 3DS they'll start bumping up the storage space of the cartridges though, like they did with the DS.

CC
06-21-2010, 04:12 PM
A Zelda OoT "revisit" on the 3DS is coming. Double Zelda goodness.

http://www.1up.com/media?id=3822755http://www.1up.com/media?id=3822752http://www.1up.com/media?id=3822750

Yay, Epona. :)

WANT. EXTREME WANTAGE!

As long as they don't change anything. Maybe add some bonus end content, but nothing more.

Chocolate Misu
06-21-2010, 09:25 PM
More Portal 2 awesomeness.

Ow! Ow! It burns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZD17pQSqUU