I am an avid soundtrack collector and one of my favorite series of soundtracks is Pirates of the Caribbean. However, the official soundtracks are severely limited compared to how much music is in the actual movie. Hans Zimmer never released any complete soundtracks. So, I was left scouring the internet for bootlegs. When those wouldn't suffice, I turned to extracting DVD audio myself and editing all the songs.

I am still unsatisfied. And I know there are others who feel the same way. This may be a big favor, but I wonder if there is anyone out there who can compose and/or conduct some of the missing songs from Dead Man's Chest and At World's End--or whatever it may take.

Is there anyone that can help me?

Yes, I now realize it would be a huge copyright infringement to conduct music that didn't belong to you. It is the same issue that bars me sharing the fantastic editing of several soundtracks that I've done (my parents say if you have a chance of being caught then it must not be legal). But, seriously, what is it gonig to take for us to see official complete soundtracks released. It's not just Hans Zimmer; it's all the big names.

We need to create petitions and get the news out there that this music must be released. Wouldn't that give more money to the whomever the music belongs to, as opposed to us bootlegging their soundtracks? Can't they see they have quite an audience judging by all the bootlegs out there?

Can someone explain this phenomenon to me? It's not like the music doesn't exist in a pure form. Take the Maelstrom music recently found on the Magic Box Music site, for example. What is it that compells a composer to never release a complete movie score? Look at Howard Shore and Lord of the Rings. The size of the Complete Recordings tripled, possibly quadrupled, from the original soundtracks.

I'm with you on this one! We hear music in a movie and then want it really badly, but then we buy it and the songs we wanted aren't even there! Thus, I refuse to buy any more scores until this is changed. It defeats the whole purpose of releasing the score...

Have you heard or even have the 2 CD Set of Curse of the Black Pearl? here it is its actually real

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I'm with you on this one! We hear music in a movie and then want it really badly, but then we buy it and the songs we wanted aren't even there! Thus, I refuse to buy any more scores until this is changed. It defeats the whole purpose of releasing the score...

at least Lord of the RIngs and the Original Star Wars Trilogy did that but I don't understand why the prequel trilogy or even Dead Man's Chest and World's End didn't have a 2 CD Set Ugh!!!

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Yes, I now realize it would be a huge copyright infringement to conduct music that didn't belong to you. It is the same issue that bars me sharing the fantastic editing of several soundtracks that I've done (my parents say if you have a chance of being caught then it must not be legal). But, seriously, what is it gonig to take for us to see official complete soundtracks released. It's not just Hans Zimmer; it's all the big names.

We need to create petitions and get the news out there that this music must be released. Wouldn't that give more money to the whomever the music belongs to, as opposed to us bootlegging their soundtracks? Can't they see they have quite an audience judging by all the bootlegs out there?

Can someone explain this phenomenon to me? It's not like the music doesn't exist in a pure form. Take the Maelstrom music recently found on the Magic Box Music site, for example. What is it that compells a composer to never release a complete movie score? Look at Howard Shore and Lord of the Rings. The size of the Complete Recordings tripled, possibly quadrupled, from the original soundtracks.

I'm kind of thinking they do that because that didn't like the movie look at the Original Star Wars Trilogy in 2004 they got a 2 CD Set and look at the prequel trilogy the prequel trilogy didn't even get a 2 CD set unless you count the Ultimate Edition of Episode I

I've searched and searched for complete scores for the Pirates trilogy. Whatever link you sent me I most likely already have. I have run across many expanded scores for Curse of the Black Pearl: two of them added no more than 20 minutes to the original score, one of them was just a DVD rip of the back channels poorly mixed with the original score--and none of them made much of an attempt to create the film versions of several tracks (which there are, surprisingly, a lot).

Where can we go to create petitions? I'm sure there are some laying around for these movies that have died a long time ago. I should probably do some research.

@JediKnight12, in your signature you are looking for a Star Wars Episode III complete score. I found one that (although it has poor editing in some places) seems very complete and without SFX. I can't figure out how it was achieved, but search for A. J. Vader revenge of the sith, or something along those lines.

Where can we go to create petitions? I'm sure there are some laying around for these movies that have died a long time ago. I should probably do some research.

I'm sure we could get a lot of shriners to petition with us, too.

From what I understand is that composers have a say about what music should be presented on the soundtrack.
It's a known fact that Williams doesn't like to include all the music in a soundtrack and prefer to arrange the albums (many times out of order of appearence), to make for a better experience as a standalone listen, so basicly is just a collection of highlight tracks only. It seems that Zimmer is in the same camp too. I can understand their point. because one person doesn't necessary view the movie(s) to appreciate the music, causing much of the filler music material to be excluded on the album.

Perhaps there might be some other restrictions too. Maybe record labels are asking composers to give them the music, doesn't matter what, to be recorded only on 1 CD limit, for production costs reasons. Or in the case of Zimmer, some RCP composers could be involved and their additional music cannot be included in the commercial album.

There are some exceptions to the rule. I remember Giacchino Star Trek, The Dark Knight or The Lord of the Rings, having special editions with more music on, but I think it was because the films were a huge success, rather then any other reason.

As for recording the missing parts of PoTC, I don't see something like that to happen soon. Not saying that it is impossible, but it is very and very unlikely. It was once recorded by the City of Prague Orchestra, but with only the music already featured on the soundtracks, and that was it.
Maybe there's something planned for the fourth Pirates film. When the new Indiana Jones was made, a few months later the music for the first 3 Indiana movies were expanded on a box set. It could happen again for the Pirates. On the other way there are strong rumours that all the six Star Wars music, will have a special treatment once the movies hits on Blu-Ray.

Yes, I have mostly given up on Hans Zimmer officially releasing expanded scores, and never in my wildest dreams could I see him releasing complete scores--to not only Pirates, but just about any movie he has written for. I have also figured that the composer decides what goes on the soundtrack, but why are the tracks arranged in a way similar to a suite, and why do some of the cues sound different than they do in the movie?

I have mostly been counting on someone who "was on the inside" who would be willing enough to upload recording sessions or some form of a complete score given to them for being a part of the film-making process. But that's a lot of speculation. I've talked with someone on here who knows a guy on another forum who claims he has complete scores to the Pirates trilogy but is unwilling to share them. I partially don't believe it, but there's got to be something fans like me can grasp onto.

I am considering doing a complete score analysis of the music from the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy. Perhaps this will help me in getting started!

Dude, that's awesome!

i am waiting for the day to come where we get FULL OFFICIAL releases of the POTC scores. :)

i am waiting for the day to come where we get FULL OFFICIAL releases of the POTC scores. :) and ones for Star Wars Episode I-III

and ones for Star Wars Episode I-III

and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

and SAW - SAW 3D

I'd love a full score for each film. It is a shame Disney will not take the time and spend the money to release something this epic.

This may be a big favor, but I wonder if there is anyone out there who can compose and/or conduct some of the missing songs from Dead Man's Chest and At World's End--or whatever it may take


Ideas like this have popped into my head before. I think the only way we will ever see a full score is if someone were to redo the entire score themselves. However the equipment needed would probably be very expensive, especially if they wanted the tracks to sound good.



Yes, I now realize it would be a huge copyright infringement to conduct music that didn't belong to you. It is the same issue that bars me sharing the fantastic editing of several soundtracks that I've done (my parents say if you have a chance of being caught then it must not be legal).

That could pose a problem but then again we won't be selling them and I've seen people do rearrangements of POTC music on youtube.

We're bound to get recordings sessions or something...eventually. But it's been 10 years since Curse of the Black Pearl, and still nothing.
I've honestly gotten to the point where i'm so sick of waiting that I've just started making my own bootlegs. Honestly, if I were a composer, I'd release the incomplete soundtrack that had more suites and stuff with the theater release of the movie, and then a complete score...COMPLETE FILM SCORE of the movie (plus alternate and extended cues) with the dvd release. We did get the demo score for On Stranger Tides, so there is someone working with Zimmer who has the ability to steal this music and get it online. Keep in mind, we are starting to see complete scores we never thought we'd lay our hands on, like ROTF and DOTM. I guess "it all depends on the one day."

We're bound to get recordings sessions or something...eventually. But it's been 10 years since Curse of the Black Pearl, and still nothing.
I've honestly gotten to the point where i'm so sick of waiting that I've just started making my own bootlegs. Honestly, if I were a composer, I'd release the incomplete soundtrack that had more suites and stuff with the theater release of the movie, and then a complete score...COMPLETE FILM SCORE of the movie (plus alternate and extended cues) with the dvd release. We did get the demo score for On Stranger Tides, so there is someone working with Zimmer who has the ability to steal this music and get it online. Keep in mind, we are starting to see complete scores we never thought we'd lay our hands on, like ROTF and DOTM. I guess "it all depends on the one day."

Well there were two CD bootlegs for Pirates 1 & 3 that came out around the time that the Pirates 4 demo score leaked. Hopefully more Pirates music will leak out when Pirates of the Caribbean 5 gets released.

We're bound to get recordings sessions or something...eventually. But it's been 10 years since Curse of the Black Pearl, and still nothing.
I've honestly gotten to the point where i'm so sick of waiting that I've just started making my own bootlegs. Honestly, if I were a composer, I'd release the incomplete soundtrack that had more suites and stuff with the theater release of the movie, and then a complete score...COMPLETE FILM SCORE of the movie (plus alternate and extended cues) with the dvd release. We did get the demo score for On Stranger Tides, so there is someone working with Zimmer who has the ability to steal this music and get it online. Keep in mind, we are starting to see complete scores we never thought we'd lay our hands on, like ROTF and DOTM. I guess "it all depends on the one day."

Well there were two CD bootlegs for Pirates 1 & 3 that came out around the time that the Pirates 4 demo score leaked. Hopefully more Pirates music will leak out when Pirates of the Caribbean 5 gets released.