64k.....

Suck my d**k you son of a bitch..We don't want no shitty bitrate like that..Go to hell!!! :p

Only messing bruv. Lucky you love me enough to give me a great copy ay :D

Really unfortunate to hear that, too bad some people here need to ruin it for the others. Don't let them take you down though! ;)

Damn, wanted it, never asked about it.
And thanks for some idiots, I'll have it in 64k? Always suffer the consequences for the actions of others. Can I have it at least?

Scoreman.

I can offer: Bo Hansson - Lord Of the rings (swedish edition Vinyl Rip)

Kids from fame soundtracks. The first two. Also from vinyl

Jan hammer - Beyond the minds eye

American wereolf in paris (two extra tracks)

Tell me if ya want any of them.

Thats a damn shame! I've been following this in the shadows for so very long and now its all gone tits up thanks to some of the gerks on here!

I would love to have a link to the lossless verison... I unfortunately probably don't have any kind of OST that you would want. Would you take some green instead? if so... how much?

Cheers man

scoreman.

Van Helsing - Complete - ALAC - Alan Silvestri
Seven - 2CD Collectors Edition - 192k MP3
The Matrix: Deluxe Edition - ALAC
The Matrix Reloaded: 2CD - ALAC
X-Men II: Complete Score (supposedly) ALAC
Terminator 3: Recording Sessions (2CD) ALAC
Spiderman: Academy Promo Score ALAC
A.I Academy Promo 2CD ALAC

You can tell I've got a iPod can't you.

i dont even have a computer and get everything through an internet cafe... you could give the lossless link as a pm to the people who didn�t piss you off, but no one can guarantee the "wrong" people could get their dirty hands on it. and what could i give you? aren�t you the guy with the biggest score collection on earth or something?

I swear not to publish it on torrents or filehostings for about 1 year, till somebody else could buy it. And I really want to get it in @32o or lossless in PM. I want it to creat muchmorefull sound edit to russian copy of movie, nothing else and nowhere ever.

Dont be too hard on them scoreman, they are just excited about it, as I. There really only a few who really gave you a hard time, its not fair to make the others beg for it, but its your call. I might would do the same thing.

Dont be too hard on them scoreman, they are just excited about it, as I. There really only a few who really gave you a hard time, its not fair to make the others beg for it, but its your call. I might would do the same thing.

its completely understandable so we are lucky if we get at least something. and so early, i was planning to do a big ultimate avatar edit in late may. i will be happy with whatever i get.

its completely understandable so we are lucky if we get at least something. and so early, i was planning to do a big ultimate avatar edit in late may.

Oh I agree, something is always better than nothing, on the bright side it will fit on my ipod better :)

When they give you lemons you make lemonaide

How very, very, very expected.

In any case, I don't think saying "suck my dick scoreman" will get them what they want.

Haha, Scoreman is mean man - waving a candy in front of bunch of kids. What is funny here, is that some of you seem to say: I would like to have this candy, but looking at it is also cool;). 64k? Really? Scoreman the Merciful;). We've got 3 CDs, basically whole score from the movie and U R still not full? Don't ask, don't beg, leave guy and his 5 CDs alone.

Hey peace guys! Oua lol i can understand you scoreman. However, i've nothing really rare.
I have these things which are maybe not so common to find:

- Angels and Demons [Complete score-With SFX]
- Adventures of Tintin OST
- Battlestar Galactica Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4 OSTs
- Guns of Navarone OST
- Contact [Complete score]
- The last of the Mohicans [Complete score]
- The Last samourai [Complete score]
- Eden of the East
- The Interpreter OST (James Newton Howard)
- El Cid [Box Set 2008]
- Mulan [Complete score]
- OSS 117 Rio ne r�pond plus OST
- Le Pacte des loups OST
- The Lord of the Rings ~ Six mouvements for a Symphony
- Star Wars ~ Symphony for a saga
- Star Wars I [Superlative Edition]
- Star Wars VI - Complete Score
- Stargate [Complete score]
- Stargate SG-1 [Score Season 1] Rare!!



- Etrian Odyssey [Super Arrange Version]
- Mickey Mania OST (Michael Giacchino)

After, i've nothing crazily rare because i find most of all my soundtracks on this forum!! I have a crazy collection of the Halo games, but you can just go on my dedicated topic.
I tried to bring a light contribution to this site ;)

After it's your choice to share or not this 5CD edition. I just know that I would appreciate ;)

if it is all too much and you feel offended, can you not at least post 320k stereo replacements of the six mono tracks found on the 3cd set for now? After all this is about something thats already 85percent out there. But yes, i think people should watch their language.

64k.....

Suck my d**k you son of a bitch..We don't want no shitty bitrate like that..Go to hell!!! :p

Only messing bruv. Lucky you love me enough to give me a great copy ay :D

Don't worry russ i go and sort him out for ya! :DD want me to do a sex wee on him, he be sowwyyy :)

only messin also scoreman :)

Scoreman, this is just mean for all the people who did NOT press the issue, did NOT insult you, did NOT go on your nerves at all, who just crave for the 5cd set.

This makes you not better than those jerks that offended you, it even makes you worse. They are just what they are, pathetic idiots - its in their blood. You however have chosen to punish the others just because you can. Hurting people just because you are stronger. That's more than mean.

I would have really, really, really liked the 5cd set and I am sure I even had nice things to trade, but I don't participate in blackmail. Just out of principle.

I am really sorry for you that you have to resort to such pointless means to get your little revenge. Why punish the innocent? Just because they are easy to punish?

I am of course fully aware that the mods will probably ban my account because saying ones opinion is strictly prohibited now it seems. But I prefer to stand up and say what I mean. Its the honest way. If you have problems with certain braindeads, please sort it out with THEM, not with US, the rest.

Adras makes a good point. Please don't let a few bad apples ruin it for those of us who have waited patiently!

Hello all,
hello scoreman,

just sent you pm.

I can somehow understand your point of view and it seems somehow fair to me.

I am waiting for the answer....

Best regards
stm

Scoreman, this is just mean for all the people who did NOT press the issue, did NOT insult you, did NOT go on your nerves at all, who just crave for the 5cd set.

This makes you not better than those jerks that offended you, it even makes you worse. They are just what they are, pathetic idiots - its in their blood. You however have chosen to punish the others just because you can. Hurting people just because you are stronger. That's more than mean.

I would have really, really, really liked the 5cd set and I am sure I even had nice things to trade, but I don't participate in blackmail. Just out of principle.

I am really sorry for you that you have to resort to such pointless means to get your little revenge. Why punish the innocent? Just because they are easy to punish?

I am of course fully aware that the mods will probably ban my account because saying ones opinion is strictly prohibited now it seems. But I prefer to stand up and say what I mean. Its the honest way. If you have problems with certain braindeads, please sort it out with THEM, not with US, the rest.

If i agree on scoreman comments, i'm also agree with you...

Like you were EVER going to share it for free, scoreman. What a joke. You use a few bad apples as your excuse to do what you were going to do in the first place. You really need all the attention that badly? You are pathetic. You can keep your frackin' score, which you probably don't have in anything higher than 64k anyway.

thats it. I HAD IT WITH THE MUTHERFUCKIN TROLLS ON THIS MUTHAFUCKIN BOARD!!!

I don't think saying "suck my dick scoreman" will get them what they want.

I don't think scoreman will be taking what I said to heart. We are Brothers after all ;)

Like you were EVER going to share it for free, scoreman. What a joke. You use a few bad apples as your excuse to do what you were going to do in the first place. You really need all the attention that badly? You are pathetic. You can keep your frackin' score, which you probably don't have in anything higher than 64k anyway.

Are you psychic then?. You must be if you know what scoreman was thinking and you know he only has the Avatar score at 64k. In that case, can you tell me what the lottery numbers are for tomorrow?.

Are you psychic then?. You must be if you know what scoreman was thinking and you know he only has the Avatar score at 64k. In that case, can you tell me what the lottery numbers are for tomorrow?.

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People just relax. As long as you guys keep arguing we won't get any further either. You must understand Score's point of view. There are a lot of people on these forums that don't know how to behave and don't deserve these kind of things. We should be grateful he actually has this score.

People just relax. As long as you guys keep arguing we won't get any further either. You must understand Score's point of view. There are a lot of people on these forums that don't know how to behave and don't deserve these kind of things. We should be grateful he actually has this score.

Personally I'm laughing my balls off at the assholes.

People just relax. As long as you guys keep arguing we won't get any further either. You must understand Score's point of view. There are a lot of people on these forums that don't know how to behave and don't deserve these kind of things. We should be grateful he actually has this score.

and seeing such needless insults makes me angry. and you wouldn�t like me when i�m angry. HATER SMASH STUPID TROLLS!!!!

and seeing such needless insults makes me angry. and you wouldn�t like me when i�m angry. HATER SMASH STUPID TROLLS!!!!

Surely some of us would like to torture them first.

was he interrested in what i can offer or not?

Thanks anyway.

YAY!!!! Thank you for uploading this in 64k Mr. Scoreman...We love you <3

:p

I don't think scoreman will be taking what I said to heart. We are Brothers after all ;)

Ahahahaha. Epic win.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/wl20xs

Why 64kbs ?

Some of us have been patient and would have expected way better quality than 64kbs-say 320kbs or 256.

And a better filehost.

Into The Storm's upload is the best example of a great upload.

This isn't.

Trolls will be trolls,but you don't have to punish the many for the sins of a few.

Just my 2 cents.

The reason we behave bad is because SCOREMAN BEHAVES like a TROLL. dont come saying something else. Troll feads troll. Yeah .he posted it.. in 64 k

Thanks anyway.

Then wouldn't it be simpler to stop being an asshole and try to achieve some maturity in your life. That's of course if you've passed puberty yet.

There are many points and reasons to why i posted it in 64k...

Most of those points have been represented in the few posts in this thread already!


A 320k will be made available to those that havent acted like arseholes! (suffice to say that aint many!) i think the word i am looking for is... Touche!

Yeah, really. Scoreman may be rubbing people the wrong way, but that's no excuse to be a jerk right back to him. An eye for an eye...

ooohhh my God what a riot it is in here...
Its up to scoreman if he wants to share it or not, but maybe it was unnecessary to mention that he had it in the first place...This only means that every leecher has something to nag about...Respect scoremans decission!!!

There are many points and reasons to why i posted it in 64k...

Most of those points have been represented in the few posts in this thread already!


A 320k will be made available to those that havent acted like arseholes! (suffice to say that aint many!) i think the word i am looking for is... Touche!

I guess you can pm the ones you feel are worthy :)

@Fredriksam ...Im more interested in what you have that is extra on An American Werewolf in Paris...Is it scoretracks?? I only have the song CD on original...

I guess you can pm the ones you feel are worthy :)

Careful now.

The fact of the matter was i mentioned it because i presume the *3cd* would have it all, rather them being hoodwinked into believing it was a 3cd set when in fact it was a 2cd, yes my bad... now i initially confessed into having it to help out the mono tracks, but later found out that the version that was uploaded was missing shit loads and then i got bombarded into begging for it to be uploaded...

I never once *before the begging* said i would upload it, i simply said i would upload the stero tracks! but since i cant be seen as an honest man doing an honest few weeks work without being made out to be a cunt and would never upload it, kinda infuriated me to a point where i did think to myself, fuck the lot of you.. Perhaps rather rash on my behalf...

But on principal, i am not going to make it available to all (as those that were lucid enough to make snide comments) why should you have it, why should i give it to you..

Lesson learnt i hope!

Now, as mentioned before *the_crowestorm* on AIM!!!!

Careful now.

No pun intended.

Like you were EVER going to share it for free, scoreman. What a joke. You use a few bad apples as your excuse to do what you were going to do in the first place. You really need all the attention that badly? You are pathetic. You can keep your frackin' score, which you probably don't have in anything higher than 64k anyway.

Hit the nail on the head you did.

Most of you don't obviously know scoreman before he was scoreman. He never intended on sharing anything with any of you. When he gets something super rare, he loves to tease, and when it doesn't become super rare anymore, then he lets it go. How do I know this? Well, mainly because of mine and others history in the past with him, and second, he kept changing his stories. First, it was because he wasn't even in the same country he couldn't access it, but then somehow he managed to upload a single supposed track from it. How'd he do that? Second, it was he was so busy he couldn't get around to it. Yet, somehow he manages to respond to every single post of mine and others about it, and quite quickly. And then third, when I called him out on it, his reasons changed to well first you upload said score, and then I will? You see how everything with him changes? This is exactly what he does.

All of his stories and excuses are really thrown into the garbage with all of this though, because now apparently he is providing a 5disc 64kbps copy? Do you see what I mean? He's a storyteller and a flip flopper.

And what he's doing here... not surprised at all. I laughed my ass off because its exactly what I expected.

I could care less. I am not mad at scoreman about not providing a 5disc copy of Avatar. I just wanted to let everyone know not to expect it despite what he says because I know the way he rolls. And I know a lot of people have been waiting for him. So I just wanted to let you guy's all know he likely was never going to provide it. And yeah, this whole thread by him, its just a performance now to use me as ANOTHER BS excuse for not providing it.

I'm not even convinced what he has is even legit. I run the circles myself, hence how I obtained the 3cd of Avatar to begin with. And the circles on my end know nothing of a 5disc Avatar. But hey, maybe it is real, and maybe if you kiss his ass enough, he'll give it to you. Not the way I work.

Hit the nail on the head you did.

Most of you don't obviously know scoreman before he was scoreman. He never intended on sharing anything with any of you. When he gets something super rare, he loves to tease, and when it doesn't become super rare anymore, then he lets it go. How do I know this? Well, mainly because of mine and others history in the past with him, and second, he kept changing his stories. First, it was because he wasn't even in the same country he couldn't access it, but then somehow he managed to upload a single supposed track from it. How'd he do that? Second, it was he was so busy he couldn't get around to it. Yet, somehow he manages to respond to every single post of mine and others about it, and quite quickly. And then third, when I called him out on it, his reasons changed to well first you upload said score, and then I will? You see how everything with him changes? This is exactly what he does. He's a flip flopper.

And what he's doing here... not surprised at all. I laughed my ass off because its exactly what I expected.

I could care less. Why? Because I'm not convinced what he has his even legit. I run the circles myself, hence how I obtained the 3cd of Avatar to begin with. And the circles on my end know nothing of a 5disc Avatar.

Its a fair cop!


So where is this Coraline you promised the site?

Kinda puts you in my shoes... No!?

Man, some of you people are ludicrous. If you act like he has personally cheated you, you need to get out more. He's just trying to be a nice guy and share music, and there are always people who find a way to whine and bitch. It's ridiculous.

Its a fair cop!


So where is this Coraline you promised the site?

Kinda puts you in my shoes... No!?

Not really. He actually provided something i.e the 3-disc Avatar set.

Now I'm not trying to be nasty here but what have you provided?.

Not really. He actually provided something i.e the 3-disc Avatar set.

What have you provided?.

5cd set

I don't know what the deal is with into the storm and scoreman (referring to their personal dealings/issues with each other) but scoreman has proven to me (and I believe him completely) that he has this 5-disc set in high quality.

I am grateful to both him and into the storm, because if it wasn't for into the storm's 3-disc upload I never could have made that custom edit I did to begin with. (as for all the requests for it I'm still getting, I'll deal with that separately). I can say that by listening to a few tracks of this 64kbps upload, my edit can go into the toilet as far as I'm concerned, because regardless of bitrate, scoreman has the REAL FUCKING DEAL here.

I believe him. Some don't. Some are bitter about it as though this is one big tease. Fuck the bitter people, because remember NO ONE HAS PAID FOR ANYTHING HERE. The original uploaders of all the music on this board paid for the source CDs and shared them with others and they get NOTHING for their courtesy.

The sense of entitlement is sickening.

But what do I know? Fuck me too.

scoreman, you don't appear to be online as far as AIM is concerned. just to let you know.

Look, i can stop this..

I shall upload the avatar in 320k! This is getting a little out of hand.. I am going ot be the mature one here and apologise to everyone, including Into the Storm here!

This Feudal behaviour is only making this site somewhat irrelivant. Not that anyone seems to be reading what gets posted much anyway!

Now, i am going to watch a dvd with my family, havent seen them for a long time! then i shall rip avatar to 320k... I will not post it in the thread or make a new one.. i shall simply respond to those that PM me (i dont want to start another thread and cause more shit)

SM Out

Enjoy the movie with your family :)

Enjoy the movie and hopefully we'll see the high quality version soon!

Thanks for the upload. Some of the alternate versions are pretty slick.

Well, I for one will have to wait for this one. Avatar just got out on DVD so that will have to do until I get a hold of this soundtrack. Good things can wait after all. We had to wait seven years for the complete Godzilla score, definitely one of my favorites ever :D

I also want the avatar 5 cd set but ik have no idea how to post a pm :(:( so if someone could help me please do so.......

I also want the avatar 5 cd set but ik have no idea how to post a pm :(:( so if someone could help me please do so.......

Click on his name, scoreman, a list will drop down, there you will see , send Scoreman a private message.

Click on his name, scoreman, a list will drop down, there you will see , send Scoreman a pm.

Actually, he can't do that because he just registered. He's too new, if that makes any sense.

Actually, he can't do that because he just registered. He's too new, if that makes any sense.

Yea I just thought of that after I posted it.

Click on his name, scoreman, a list will drop down, there you will see , send Scoreman a private message.

No it doesnt, maybe i'm not registerd (or something like that) good enough or so???

P.S. sorry for my bad english

hahaha too late hahaha

But what now to do for me??? has anybody a idea????

or should i be just patience?????

please contact me (i'm begging on my knees especially to scoreman)

You could respond to this relatively pointless comment I'm making. That way, you'll have 5 posts and will be able to PM Scoreman.

You could respond to this relatively pointless comment I'm making. That way, you'll have 5 posts and will be able to PM Scoreman.


Ok thank you very very much your my new hero beside my dad & superman haha ;)

Ok thank you very very much your my new hero beside my dad & superman haha ;)

I left you a message in your profile :)

I left you a message in your profile :)

and I left one in yours.

I just wanted to say that I appreciate Scoreman offering to post the HQ version up on here, however he certainly doesn't have to. I can't believe all of the fuss over a score that we wouldn't typically be able to get anyhow.

Why am I not surprised that some people (the person who told scoreman to fuck off) act like dicks if something they "demand" isn't given to them in a proper format? Wow, just wow. As scoreman stated he doesn't have to share this with anyone but he's being gracious enough to do so.

Hahahaa, this is all too funny. Some peoples' kids... In any case, much thanks to scoreman for providing this at all. A most wonderful score at any length. :)

Thanks for yor 64k preview, scoreman.

The preview rocks indeed. Let's get to 5 posts and PM priviliges!

This 5cd is a dream come true. Hope to get PM habilities soon...

Thanks for the preview.

Thanks for the 5CD preview. That is a lot of music. James Horner really got behind this project which is great when you consider the amount of auto-pilot scoring these days. You certainly do bring fantastic material to this forum. Ignore all the negative comments. Thank you very much Scoreman.
P.S. How do I PM you? Thanks again.

Thank you Scoreman for the post

Thanks =D

Thanks Scoreman

Sorry need one more post so I PM people.

Do you get PM priviledges as soon as you hit 5 posts, or do the mods have to enable it? Do we have to request it?

Hello scoreman,

I just can send you a pm via this board. I do not know what AIM is, nor do I understand your hint .... sorry.

Maybe you can send me a reply, whether my offer might be interesting to you.

Anyway thanks you very very much for your aupload...


THX

soundtrackmaster

Hello scoreman,

I just can send you a pm via this board. I do not know what AIM is, nor do I understand your hint .... sorry.

Maybe you can send me a reply, whether my offer might be interesting to you.

Anyway thanks you very very much for your aupload...


THX

soundtrackmaster


AIM is a AOL messenger board, I figured it out, but I dont think he goes there much, I guess you need 5 post to PM someone, just click on the name Scoreman and go from there. :)

thanks allot for 4, 5cd, appreciate it mate :)

So where is this Coraline you promised the site?

Kinda puts you in my shoes... No!?

Exactly. I would have been glad to have Coraline at least with 64kbit.

Many Thanks Scoreman!

Thank you very much!

Huge thanks for this, I can't get enough of this score in any form!

EDIT: Still not eligible to send PMs. Hate to break the conduct of the thread but, until I can send one, consider this my official request please :)

Has anyone got a PM yet? I havent yet but send him one yesterday.

Has anyone got a PM yet? I havent yet but send him one yesterday.

Haven't you learn nothing? :P Patience is a virtue... Remmember that scoreman first has to rip the 5 Cd's, then upload (at 320kbps it should be a lot of Mb) and after that send PM's.

THANKS����!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Impressive! looking forward to grabbing the HQ versions.

Haven't you learn nothing? :P Patience is a virtue... Remmember that scoreman first has to rip the 5 Cd's, then upload (at 320kbps it should be a lot of Mb) and after that send PM's.

I'd guess maybe the size of uploading an audio CD, so hovering around 6, 700MB.

Well all I have to say is, the people here who don't seem to understand the concept of patience and therefore resort to acting like spoiled children do not deserve anything at all.

scoreman, you have my thanks.

I heard the 5 cd and are a great document. I hope to see that in better quality. Scoreman, I support your hard work and consideration.

Thanks to Scoreman and thanks in advance for a 320 version.

Lets have faith. All good things come to those who wait. Have patience.

I think considering how flooded scoreman's PM box will be, I'll wait a week or two after he starts sending it to request it. In any case, huge please and great thanks in advance. I didn't think I'd been one of the people trolling scoreman in this thread or the other, but if I did, then I apologize.

I LOVE MOST OF THE NEW MUSIC!!!

Hancock Complete Score�

Rest assured, i have everyones interests at heart and will rip tonight and get to upload.. probably wont be ready till early next week as upload speed isnt the best in the area and i have ripped to wav lossless, so over 1.8gig in size!

D

Rest assured, i have everyones interests at heart and will rip tonight and get to upload.. probably wont be ready till early next week as upload speed isnt the best in the area and i have ripped to wav lossless, so over 1.8gig in size!

D


Ahh sounds sweet scoreman.

Rest assured, i have everyones interests at heart and will rip tonight and get to upload.. probably wont be ready till early next week as upload speed isnt the best in the area and i have ripped to wav lossless, so over 1.8gig in size!

D

Holy freaking cow.

Lossless?

LOSSLESS?

UNCOMPRESSED WAV?


Okay now we're definitely going to have to compensate you with....something, I don't know what. It just isn't fair otherwise!

I'm going to upload something to you that I think you might enjoy. It'll be about 730 MB or so and I think you'll get a kick out of it.

Rest assured, i have everyones interests at heart and will rip tonight and get to upload.. probably wont be ready till early next week as upload speed isnt the best in the area and i have ripped to wav lossless, so over 1.8gig in size!

D

That's terrific news, scoreman, thanks again for your effort. I'm sure your mailbox is having a hard time right now. A HQ mp3 encode would already be a dream come true, but lossless would totally blow my mind.

OMG Lossless quality, that's A-M-A-Z-I-N-G scoreman, really awesome.

So where is this Coraline you promised the site?

Wow... Coraline and Avatar complete... that would make my day...

Thanks scoreman and into the storm... :)

Rest assured, i have everyones interests at heart and will rip tonight and get to upload.. probably wont be ready till early next week as upload speed isnt the best in the area and i have ripped to wav lossless, so over 1.8gig in size!

D

Lossless?! Whoa mama, that sounds FANTASTIC!! Many, many thanks!

Awesome!! Looking forward to it! Many thanks in advance!

Convert the WAVs to FLACs, you'll save some space.

You guys maybe jumping the gun here.... I'm not sure if he's implying he'll upload the lossless version, he maybe saying that he's working from a lossless rip that he made.

Scoreman, IF and I'm heavily implying the IF you are uploading a lossless version, Goldwave can convert wave format files into flac files with no problem. You can download the trial version of it.

Oh, of course.... I didn't say that for the possible upload, it was a simple suggestion to save some space.

Hi scoreman. Thanks for uploading. I must have missed the arguments, I dont know about it, but hope its sorted. I hope you can upload the tracks that were in mono on the 3cd, the stereo ones up. Thanks

You guys maybe jumping the gun here.... I'm not sure if he's implying he'll upload the lossless version, he maybe saying that he's working from a lossless rip that he made.

Scoreman, IF and I'm heavily implying the IF you are uploading a lossless version, Goldwave can convert wave format files into flac files with no problem. You can download the trial version of it.

Or the totally free FLAC converter:

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/flac/flac-1.2.1b.exe

Rest assured, i have everyones interests at heart and will rip tonight and get to upload.. probably wont be ready till early next week as upload speed isnt the best in the area and i have ripped to wav lossless, so over 1.8gig in size!

D

Really great news, many thanks, scoreman.

I haven't been following the "controversy" too much, but i must say the more of this score thats released, the more i really like it.

As someone noted earlier its really amazing how JH really got into making music for this movie. I didn't really "notice" the music during the two times i watched the movie, but maybe thats a testament to how well it blended with the visuals.

Hats off to the poster of all the great music and i hope the 5CDs or 20 CDs or whatever are fully released and one day available for purchase!

Would there be any chance of a 320 upload? Not only will 2 gigs not fit on my shitastic ipod, but my shoddy internet would never download 2 gigs. It always cuts off in the middle of downloads, especially if they are big. I know it'd be in multiple parts, but that's a lot for my internet to handle. I would never get it downloaded...

Would there be any chance of a 320 upload? Not only will 2 gigs not fit on my shitastic ipod, but my shoddy internet would never download 2 gigs. It always cuts off in the middle of downloads, especially if they are big. I know it'd be in multiple parts, but that's a lot for my internet to handle. I would never get it downloaded...

It's probably a guarantee that an mp3 version will be provided down the line by someone else who downloads the lossless version. That's pretty much how things go around here - someone provides a lossless album for CD burning, and then a compressed mp3 alternative/supplement. appears.

Besides, I doubt anyone puts uncompressed WAVs on their iPods. It doesn't make any sense to do that. I assume when you copy a CD to your computer for iPod use, you're converting it to something else first.

That's good to know, I guess. I'm not that familiar with FLAC as I never use it, so excuse me for not knowing not to put uncompressed wav on an ipod :P

Why are people acting so mean you guys don't pay this guy no money to do this. 64k is fine.

That's good to know, I guess. I'm not that familiar with FLAC as I never use it, so excuse me for not knowing not to put uncompressed wav on an ipod :P

You can't put FLAC on an iPod. FLAC is mainly used for people uploading lossless music and storage/archival purposes to minimize file size, not playback.

Putting WAVs on an iPod is not only a huge waste of space, but a drain on the iPod's battery life.

For best results, use 256kbps AAC when converting your music for your iPod, or even the higher 320kbps AAC.

If you must have lossless audio on your iPod, then use the Apple Lossless format. These options are in the "import settings" in Preferences.

The 256kbps AAC is what iTunes uses as their format for music in the iTunes Store.

Why are people acting so mean you guys don't pay this guy no money to do this. 64k is fine.

Perhaps you should read the entire thread first.

The 'acting mean' you're referring to wasn't everyone, and is pretty much a closed subject now anyway.

I use Apple Lossless encoder when ever I put files onto my iPod.

Anyways anything below 192k is HORRIBLE for film scores.

Off-topic, but I just wanted to say I've been enjoying the back-and-forth in the Independence Day thread on FSM, between you (Vosk) and JayL offering valuable information for people who don't know all the details about the score.

I think I snuck in just in time for an autographed copy. :)

Glad I could be of help with ID-4. :) I know that score inside and out. Did my own DVD rip of tracks 2 and 3 from Disc 2 (well from Virus Uploaded to the end of Track 3) which I included on my iPod when I put the boot on.

Looking forward to hearing the music from tracks 2 and 3 on Disc 2 outside of the film for a change. I even emailed MV asking if track 3 contains any unused music, since in the film it was pretty obvious the music was edited. He replied back saying, "Yes it does".

I think Disc 2 will be the first thing I listen to since I pretty much know all of Disc 1 all ready. Looking forward to also hearing some of those alternates.

Off-topic, but I just wanted to say I've been enjoying the back-and-forth in the Independence Day thread on FSM, between you (Vosk) and JayL offering valuable information for people who don't know all the details about the score.

I think I snuck in just in time for an autographed copy. :)

Out of curiosity, is this the same Vosk of JWFan Network?

Same person in both locations all though on jwfan I use my real name. Anyways don't wanna go off to much from this thread. Sorry to hijack the thread here.

Glad I could be of help with ID-4. :) I know that score inside and out. Did my own DVD rip of tracks 2 and 3 from Disc 2 (well from Virus Uploaded to the end of Track 3) which I included on my iPod when I put the boot on.

Looking forward to hearing the music from tracks 2 and 3 on Disc 2 outside of the film for a change. I even emailed MV asking if track 3 contains any unused music, since in the film it was pretty obvious the music was edited. He replied back saying, "Yes it does".

I think Disc 2 will be the first thing I listen to since I pretty much know all of Disc 1 all ready. Looking forward to also hearing some of those alternates.

It's like you read my mind, man. :)

It's my all-time favorite score, and the score that turned me on to film music. I made a 'definitive' expanded score using the best elements of both boots and the original CD, and it's obvious by the track list that at least some of the alternates on disc 2 are what's on the boot.

I must say, I hate those track titles. They're ridiculous, and while I can understand the comedy of it, they just aren't any good.

First thing I'm going for is the film versions of the final battle music, just to hear it on its own for the very first time (and without the obvious loops) and then go for the alternates, then the whole score chronologically. :)

And I LOVE that "Just in Case" is on there, as it was cut off all the other boots!

I do think that the titles LLL used for their ID-4 release are the original David Arnold titles...but I agree most of them are kinda stupid. I know I'll be using some of the titles from the World Records boot.

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I do think that the titles LLL used for their ID-4 release are the original David Arnold titles...but I agree most of them are kinda stupid. I know I'll be using some of the titles from the World Records boot.

The other boot had better titles, though. I ended up making my own titles for several tracks in addition to some World Records titles and other boot titles.

This is a custom I did of the World Records version with some different titles:



and these are custom titles for my own combined expanded album:

Scoreman - A BIG thanks to in advance for all your work. AMAZING!

Scoreman - A BIG thanks to you in advance for all your work. AMAZING!

The other boot had better titles, though. I ended up making my own titles for several tracks in addition to some World Records titles and other boot titles.

This is a custom I did of the World Records version with some different titles:



and these are custom titles for my own combined expanded album:




I would have ordered this but the money is just not there, no job.

Scoreman - A BIG thanks to in advance for all your work. AMAZING!

I second this. Even though this is only 64kbps, this still score still sounds incredible. Your work is greatly appreciated for putting this up, Scoreman.

I second this. Even though this is only 64kbps, this still score still sounds incredible. Your work is greatly appreciated for putting this up, Scoreman.

Agreed. Even in 64kbps this is fantastic. I personally cannot wait to hear Eyes Open in even better quality.

Thanks Scoreman.

quaritch down and fight to the death unedited is simply fantastic!

Thanks for the share. I would love to have higher bitrate but anyway many thanks for sharing.

I count around 250 minutes. It fits 4CD. As happenned with the previous Academy Promo that in reality was a 2cd set instead of 3CD. The same happened with The Hunted expanded score that was announced as 2CD when it was in reality one CD.

Why is happenning this?

I count around 250 minutes. It fits 4CD. As happenned with the previous Academy Promo that in reality was a 2cd set instead of 3CD. The same happened with The Hunted expanded score that was announced as 2CD when it was in reality one CD.

Why is happenning this?

It's just the amount of music on each CD - each disc is not filled to capacity, so it took more discs. That's all. Rather than filling each disc with 75 or 80 minutes, they're a little shorter. More discs because of a shorter running time per disc.

It's just the amount of music on each CD - each disc is not filled to capacity, so it took more discs. That's all. Rather than filling each disc with 75 or 80 minutes, they're a little shorter. More discs because of a shorter running time per disc.

65x4 = 260 minutes

It's not so strange that length per CD.

But it is always more spectacular to say 2CD rather than 1 single CD I guess.

Here's some stright infos, based on promo by Scoreman:
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CD I \ 01:05:31 \ 23 tracks
CD II \ 01:03:35 \ 22 tracks
CD III \ 01:11:27 \ 19 tracks
CD IV \ 0:51:32 \ 17 tracks
CD V \ 0:33:42 \ 13 tracks
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TOTALLY: 5 CD, 04:45:49, 94 tracks
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This is good stuff. Shame we're still missing the full finale track, though.

We're all speakin' 'bout it here, only in case of Scoreman said, he'll upload 5CD Ed. In any other ways - it's all - only a flood. At all. And Eywa knows, I'd like that this would become true. Really. Personally, I'd like to get it to create the complete ever soundtrack for the russian BD-release of the movie, 'cause the "official one" - is damn as bad...

This is good stuff. Shame we're still missing the full finale track, though.

If you mean the music at the end when Jake fully joins his Avatar before the "End Credits" music starts...that's tracked music. I think it's tracked from "Climbing Up Iknimaya".

Edit: By the way I noticed there's a lot of unnecessary silence before and after cues for this set. If that silence is removed, chances are it will probably only be 3, maybe 4 CD's. When the 3-CD set surfaced I noticed the silence and removed it and the score easily fit onto 2-CD's.

I've discovered something via rear channel DVD rip. The first part of the finale cue is definitely tracked from "Climbing Up Iknimaya", however for the second part it's from the cue "Eyes Open" on the 5-CD set (the 64k version).

This is so awesome! It's just a shame that something like this was never found for "Titanic". From what I understand, a lot of the cues that were released on CD for that movie are somewhat different in the film version.

This is so awesome! It's just a shame that something like this was never found for "Titanic". From what I understand, a lot of the cues that were released on CD for that movie are somewhat different in the film version.

Understatement. :)

The one cue I've wanted from the film itself is "Southampton", since it's so different from the album. "Leaving Port" is also different, but it has some of the album version of Southampton tracked into the ending of that sequence.

If you mean the music at the end when Jake fully joins his Avatar before the "End Credits" music starts...that's tracked music. I think it's tracked from "Climbing Up Iknimaya".

Edit: By the way I noticed there's a lot of unnecessary silence before and after cues for this set. If that silence is removed, chances are it will probably only be 3, maybe 4 CD's. When the 3-CD set surfaced I noticed the silence and removed it and the score easily fit onto 2-CD's.

The great thing about a lossless version is that silence can be removed without re-encoding /compressing the music.

The percussion at the end of "Eyes Open" in the film isn't there, but the DVD/Blu-ray is 'clean' enough to utilize it right out of the film.

There was some "B-roll" footage of the making of the film, and among the random segments was a lot of scoring session clips. In several clips you see Horner begin conducting "Climbing up Ikinimaya", and it's the film version (with the build up of percussion like on this set) and what's so interesting about that, is that Horner recorded pre-edited cues in addition to the fuller, longer cues of the same music, rather than simply cutting it after the fact. Very nice.

Scoreman,

Thank you for uploading the complete version of this score (haven't heard it yet, I am downloading as I type).
I appreciate all of your efforts.

Thanks!I want a better quality.

help me out here but where is the final film version of Quaritrch pulls Plug as heard in the film? i'm speaking of the faceoff between Avatar Jake and the rest of the Na"Vi as he leaves his avatar body. Then Neytiri defends his "lifeless" body. Is it tracked from Viperwolves or is it more unreleased music, cause its very good. The Quaritch pulls plug on the set is just an alt version of Scorched Earth again. This unreleased music does segue into No Reason, yes.

help me out here but where is the final film version of Quaritrch pulls Plug as heard in the film? i'm speaking of the faceoff between Avatar Jake and the rest of the Na"Vi as he leaves his avatar body. Then Neytiri defends his "lifeless" body. Is it tracked from Viperwolves or is it more unreleased music, cause its very good. The Quaritch pulls plug on the set is just an alt version of Scorched Earth again. This unreleased music does segue into No Reason, yes.

The "Quaritch Pulls The Plug" cue may be an alternate, but it is completely different from the two versions of "Scorched Earth". In the film you're correct about that scene using part of "Viperwolves", as well as bits and pieces of "Quaritch" and more of the harsher tribal percussion.

There is a LOT of music here that wasn't in the film, and it's fantastic music. If more people had a chance to hear this, James Horner would likely have been the recipient of a lot more positive comments about this score, since it's so fleshed out compared to the original commercial album. That album really doesn't do this score justice. He's been unfairly criticized (moreso than he usually is) about this score and it's a damn shame.

I agree the album definitely doesn't do the score justice. Ya he uses bits and pieces of his older material (like that is any different with his other scores? lol) from his older scores into this one. Yet at the same time this one to me has a big vibe of old school Horner. Especially when it comes to tracks such as "War", "Quartich Down" and "Fight To The Death".

Yeah, I really think they should've put the Thanatos chase music, "Quaritch Down" and "Fight to the Death" on the commercial album. That probably would've changed a lot of people's opinion. (They did stick the demo version of "Fight to the Death" on the Deluxe Edition under the title "The Death of Quaritch," just to note.) It's not a masterpiece, in my opinion, but it's still one hell of a score.

I'm assuming there will be probably be a special release of a lot more music for this somewhere down the line, probably in time for the Special Edition DVD that's rumoured for November.

So I have to post 5 times, huh? Interesting...

I agree with Vosk. This score could please old school Horner fans and new school Horner fans alike. You have the ferocity of the days of ALIENS (complete with his creature motif) and WILLOW, and then you also get the more touch feely new age Horner of late. The album unfortunately doesnt fully represent this combination, even WAR is truncated to part 1 only. Its another love story tone poem. Look at how badly the commercial release of PEARL HARBOR represented that movie's score (Perhaps due to ghost writing)

It's already very rare for such a huge score to leak in a complete (and high quality!) version with different versions.

I agree with Vosk. This score could please old school Horner fans and new school Horner fans alike. You have the ferocity of the days of ALIENS (complete with his creature motif) and WILLOW, and then you also get the more touch feely new age Horner of late. The album unfortunately doesnt fully represent this combination, even WAR is truncated to part 1 only. Its another love story tone poem. Look at how badly the commercial release of PEARL HARBOR represented that movie's score (Perhaps due to ghost writing)

In my humble Opinion Avatar mirors the complete Musical arts of Horner Life. You may find hints and cues from his earliest 80s style like Battle beyond the stars and STar Trek, through his 90s style like Mighty Joe Young and Titanic up til now.

So AVATAR really is a Compedium of his entire works. It is a shame that it is treated so badly though and this 5 CD Set is the real honour to him.

soundtrackmaster

The great thing about a lossless version is that silence can be removed without re-encoding /compressing the music.

The percussion at the end of "Eyes Open" in the film isn't there, but the DVD/Blu-ray is 'clean' enough to utilize it right out of the film.

There was some "B-roll" footage of the making of the film, and among the random segments was a lot of scoring session clips. In several clips you see Horner begin conducting "Climbing up Ikinimaya", and it's the film version (with the build up of percussion like on this set) and what's so interesting about that, is that Horner recorded pre-edited cues in addition to the fuller, longer cues of the same music, rather than simply cutting it after the fact. Very nice.

"The percussion at the end of "Eyes Open" in the film isn't there, but the DVD/Blu-ray is 'clean' enough to utilize it right out of the film."

Forgive my ignorance - but how would one do that?

Thanks in advance, John

To those who have already listened the 64kbps version posted here:
Is it good? Is it valuable after the complete score 3CDs?

And anyone has the 5 version in high quality yet, right?

To JHFan,
as you seem to have spent a lot of time with this score, doing your great 2cd edit:

Have you noticed if there's any difference between "Into the Navi World (cd mix)" and "2m2 - Unused redo"? They both seem the same track (besides that small editing error at the end of "Into the Navi World")

The same goes for "The Bioluminiscence of the Night" and "4m5 - Unused". At a first listen, they seem to be the same track.

This set is incredible. There's a lot of music not available before that leaves me breathless.

OK I'm listenning the set in 160 kbps now. I didn't expect this. I have to admit that it's just incredible!!!

I hope that I could grab this set!!!!! :D

Thank you scoreman!!!

Has anyone got it yet? I Pm: d him already on saturday/sunday.

Patience Patience Patience I know thats something we filmscore people dont have much of but , well you know.

Wow I can't believe it
Thanks so much for this 5cd version and can't wait for the 320K version.
Thanks a lot
You're amazing

The man has to rip, and post the score while he's already in post trying to finish his film.

Give the man a break.

The man has to rip, and post the score while he's already in post trying to finish his film.

Give the man a break.

No harm is being done here, they we are just excited, I dont think anyone is really "bugging" him. :)
He already said he will give it out when he is ready, I dont think that excludes people from expressing their excitement about it.

This is really great...thanks scoreman.

"The percussion at the end of "Eyes Open" in the film isn't there, but the DVD/Blu-ray is 'clean' enough to utilize it right out of the film."

Forgive my ignorance - but how would one do that?

Thanks in advance, John

You need to extract, then break down the 5.1 audio mix for that scene in the film. I'll PM you with details.


To JHFan,
as you seem to have spent a lot of time with this score, doing your great 2cd edit:

Have you noticed if there's any difference between "Into the Navi World (cd mix)" and "2m2 - Unused redo"? They both seem the same track (besides that small editing error at the end of "Into the Navi World")

The same goes for "The Bioluminiscence of the Night" and "4m5 - Unused". At a first listen, they seem to be the same track.

This set is incredible. There's a lot of music not available before that leaves me breathless.

That error (which for reasons unknown made the official Avatar Music website) was clearly done after the fact, and it sounds like the "unused redo" is the same recording just without that problem in it.

I wasted my money buying the deluxe iTunes CD, since "Pandora" was made of two cues on this 5-CD set, the latter half released previously, the first half being an "unused original demo" here. Despite the synths since it is a demo, it's now one of my favorites.

The Bioluminescence cue does sound the same, but the lengths of each cue are different only because of the silence at the end.

Scoreman:

Thanks for the share much appreciated.

Is the 5cd set bootlegged or is it James Horner Material??

Is the 5cd set bootlegged or is it James Horner Material??

It's the original recording sessions.

Interesting to note...what's labeled as Alternate Opening for "Quartich Down", is actually in the film...that brief stint at the beginning before the main action music kicks in. That stint plays before it shows the Thanators charging from the woods towards the Marines.

I'm very excited about this. Getting the chance to assemble this into a flowing, cohesive album. Got it all planned out:

-chronological presentation of the original unedited cues
-chronological presentation of alternates (presented on their own to prevent a redundancy in playback)
-Na'vi source music
-adding the inserts to the unedited cues if they allow for it (if they won't be a natural fit they won't be included so they will remain on their own)

I've given this way too much thought, but this score is worth it. Completely in love with it.

I'm very excited about this. Getting the chance to assemble this into a flowing, cohesive album. Got it all planned out:

-chronological presentation of the original unedited cues
-chronological presentation of alternates (presented on their own to prevent a redundancy in playback)
-Na'vi source music
-adding the inserts to the unedited cues if they allow for it (if they won't be a natural fit they won't be included so they will remain on their own)

I've given this way too much thought, but this score is worth it. Completely in love with it.

I may set it up like that too. I tested the insert for "Fight To The Death" it works.

I'm very excited about this. Getting the chance to assemble this into a flowing, cohesive album. Got it all planned out:

-chronological presentation of the original unedited cues
-chronological presentation of alternates (presented on their own to prevent a redundancy in playback)
-Na'vi source music
-adding the inserts to the unedited cues if they allow for it (if they won't be a natural fit they won't be included so they will remain on their own)

I've given this way too much thought, but this score is worth it. Completely in love with it.

That sound really and would make like a definitive presentation of all this material :-)

By the way, another repeated cue seems to be "7m1 - The Skypeople Are Coming" and "xxxx Quaritch (not used)".

Also, I didn't find in the whole set the vocal performance heard at the end of the album version of "Jake's First Flight".

I'm very excited about this. Getting the chance to assemble this into a flowing, cohesive album. Got it all planned out:

-chronological presentation of the original unedited cues
-chronological presentation of alternates (presented on their own to prevent a redundancy in playback)
-Na'vi source music
-adding the inserts to the unedited cues if they allow for it (if they won't be a natural fit they won't be included so they will remain on their own)

I've given this way too much thought, but this score is worth it. Completely in love with it.

A really interesting project. I would like to see/listen the result.

I'm very excited about this. Getting the chance to assemble this into a flowing, cohesive album. Got it all planned out:

-chronological presentation of the original unedited cues
-chronological presentation of alternates (presented on their own to prevent a redundancy in playback)
-Na'vi source music
-adding the inserts to the unedited cues if they allow for it (if they won't be a natural fit they won't be included so they will remain on their own)

I've given this way too much thought, but this score is worth it. Completely in love with it.

Completely agree. Would love to hear it. I don't think I loved a score so much since The Empire Strikes Back.

OMG! I can't wait to hear this version in high quality... So... First i need to reach 5 postsin order to MP scoreman, right?

I'm very excited about this. Getting the chance to assemble this into a flowing, cohesive album. Got it all planned out:

-chronological presentation of the original unedited cues
-chronological presentation of alternates (presented on their own to prevent a redundancy in playback)
-Na'vi source music
-adding the inserts to the unedited cues if they allow for it (if they won't be a natural fit they won't be included so they will remain on their own)

I've given this way too much thought, but this score is worth it. Completely in love with it.

Will it be possible to have your edited version on the forum or by PM if you really do it? Thanks in advance!!!

Will it be possible to have your edited version on the forum or by PM if you really do it? Thanks in advance!!!

If the music is provided, I will arrange it. I've dreamed of doing something like this. I continue to be amazed by this score.

Big thanks to Scoreman for this one. It's one hell of a score.

Sorry but, someone knows why I still can't send PM?? I thought that you just needed 5 posts or more :?

Edit: NOthing now I can (probably is 8 or more!)

Nice to see a bit more gratitude of Scoreman around here. It's not like he owed most of you anything.

Just listened to the 64k version of the score and what can I say... it's one hell of a score. Big thanks to Scoreman for sharing this masterpiece.

As a hobby, I sequence music to picture, making a DVD isolated score-type presentation of a soundtrack, only the difference is I edit the picture to fit the music, not the other way around as it is normally done for film. I call it "Film Music Highlights", and I've seen others sometimes do this on youtube (but honestly I don't care to watch others do this because this is something I've been doing for years and care deeply about - it's my thing that I do. Dammit. )

This is a segment I put together, using the unedited film versions of "War", "The Battle Continues" and "Quaritch Down".

What is most interesting about this segment is I've not done any editing to it whatsoever - the music simply fits the film PERFECTLY.

For all his skills as a filmmaker, music editing is one area where James Cameron IS AN IDIOT.

This video will demonstrate just why that is.

It is 100 MB in size, 15 minutes long. MP4 format.

The image and sound quality is poor, because I wanted to limit the file size to 100 MB to make it uploadable quickly. It's roughly Youtube quality. My source file is of course DVD quality, save for the music since the source of the music was this 64kbps album.

However quality has no bearing on impact, and this video makes an impact. Thank James Horner for being such a spot-on composer, whom Cameron should have trusted.

Right-click and SAVE the file to your computer. DO NOT PLAY THIS FILE directly off the link. I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH. SAVE IT, DON'T STREAM IT.

WAR - as originally conceived and composed by James Horner - SAVE ME, DON"T STREAM ME (http://www.hornershrine.com/nicksuploads/WAR%20-%20sequence%20with%20unedited%20original%20score.m p4)

Your perception of the sequence will likely change, since this is how Horner originally envisioned it before Cameron hacked it up.

Great work! This is much better than the original film version, cause that is exactly what Horner wanted to do. But for some odd reason, Cameron wanted something different. Especially the scene where Trudy gets shot. In Horners original version it's kind of a 'hopeless venture'. In Camerons version it's just the opposite. That's sad, but I'm afraid we have to live with it...

Oh.. my.. god. I have absolutely no idea why they butchered the "War" cue so much in the final film version. The original is absolutely brilliant and spot on, especially the part where Jake starts attacking the ships. The only part I thought was kinda underpowered in the original version was when Trudy shows up with her chopper. Anyway, thanks a lot for this JHFan, it was quite a ride ;)

As a hobby, I sequence music to picture, making a DVD isolated score-type presentation of a soundtrack, only the difference is I edit the picture to fit the music, not the other way around as it is normally done for film. I call it "Film Music Highlights", and I've seen others sometimes do this on youtube (but honestly I don't care to watch others do this because this is something I've been doing for years and care deeply about - it's my thing that I do. Dammit. )

This is a segment I put together, using the unedited film versions of "War", "The Battle Continues" and "Quaritch Down".

What is most interesting about this segment is I've not done any editing to it whatsoever - the music simply fits the film PERFECTLY.

For all his skills as a filmmaker, music editing is one area where James Cameron IS AN IDIOT.

This video will demonstrate just why that is.

It is 100 MB in size, 15 minutes long. MP4 format.

The image and sound quality is poor, because I wanted to limit the file size to 100 MB to make it uploadable quickly. It's roughly Youtube quality. My source file is of course DVD quality, save for the music since the source of the music was this 64kbps album.

However quality has no bearing on impact, and this video makes an impact. Thank James Horner for being such a spot-on composer, whom Cameron should have trusted.

Right-click and SAVE the file to your computer. DO NOT PLAY THIS FILE directly off the link. I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH. SAVE IT, DON'T STREAM IT.

WAR - as originally conceived and composed by James Horner - SAVE ME, DON"T STREAM ME (http://www.hornershrine.com/nicksuploads/WAR%20-%20sequence%20with%20unedited%20original%20score.m p4)

Your perception of the sequence will likely change, since this is how Horner originally envisioned it before Cameron hacked it up.

Great work! Do you have any other examples of your work? Thanks, John

What is most interesting about this segment is I've not done any editing to it whatsoever - the music simply fits the film PERFECTLY.

For all his skills as a filmmaker, music editing is one area where James Cameron IS AN IDIOT.

The scene with trudy is incredible with Horner original music... Thx for sharing.

Great work! Do you have any other examples of your work? Thanks, John

Too many. Literally. I've done a lot of scores like this, from Titanic, to Star Trek 1, 2, 3, First Contact, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Godzilla, ID4, Courage Under Fire, Flightplan, The Forgotten, Troy, Casper, Ransom, Honey, I Shrunk The Kids....and more.

None are online because I couldn't possibly put them up. I have no website or personal ftp or anything, and the few videos I've put on youtube took forever to upload there. Wasn't worth the trouble.

If and when this music is provided in a higher quality, I will replace the audio track and encode a new video file - my source video file is DVD quality and I simply made a copy in a smaller, lower-quality format to share.

The only part I thought was kinda underpowered in the original version was when Trudy shows up with her chopper.

But the replacement music was all wrong - it was dropped in with no musical flow at all, and forced a false sense of heroics. The whole idea was that it was a hopeless cause - a suicide mission and in some cases, including Trudy, it was just that. The whole endeavor was tragic.

But the replacement music was all wrong - it was dropped in with no musical flow at all, and forced a false sense of heroics. The whole idea was that it was a hopeless cause - a suicide mission and in some cases, including Trudy, it was just that. The whole endeavor was tragic.

Sadly I must agree. The "War" track is one of my favorites in the album, and the music flows beautifully... but in the film it kinda follows the pattern set by the Star Wars prequel trilogy, butchered music fitted wherever the director wants, without a sense of development. But hey, it could be worse! The Troy director's cut, was even worse for Horner's music, as it cut and pasted at most horrible places, and had the Achille vs Hector cue replace by the temp track from... Planet of the Apes!
Maybe the longer cut of Avatar in theaters, or even longer cut on Blu-ray later these year will correct things up... one can only dream

hey jhfan. Here's a project for you, just a suggestion for your future special edit. Try to take all the temp tracks that make up the tribal ambience underscoring what should be 'quaritch pulls plug', before it crossfades into 'no reasoning' in the film. I think it consists of the drones from
'exploring', percussion and shak from 'viperwolves' and possibly the banshee music. I know its another taste of fox and cameron hacking and slashing, as in what happened to aliens' score, but its quite effective in the movie. I wonder what it would sound like outside the movie.

Damn i can't PM yet.
Is the 5 cd good? I can't wait to hear it :)

Damn i can't PM yet.
Is the 5 cd good? I can't wait to hear it :)

its absolutely amazing, not only good. even the music from the upcoming extended cut is in there.

Omg now i am freaking out i already loved the music of the first score! :)
Thank you

JHFan, Jacky here...I watched this today at work, had headphones on. I'm sitting here watching this and as Trudy enters the scene, I hear myself say 'Oh my god' and no doubt got goosebumps watching. As you and I have PM'd, the War cue got hacked to crap, and now that I see the original put to picture, I realize the brilliance of Horner. The climactic chorus line, rising into the symbol crash, then into the strings movement is incredible and rightly deserves its place in the movie.

I'm now spoiled watching this and will forever be thinking of the original cue during this scene of the movie.



What is most interesting about this segment is I've not done any editing to it whatsoever - the music simply fits the film PERFECTLY.

For all his skills as a filmmaker, music editing is one area where James Cameron IS AN IDIOT.

This video will demonstrate just why that is.

Oh you are all making me really curious!! :)
I can't wait to hear it!

Oh you are all making me really curious!! :)
I can't wait to hear it!

Isn't that the truth. I have faith that it'll be worth the wait.

Oh you are all making me really curious!! :)
I can't wait to hear it!

get the 64k version to satisfy your appetite. the soundqulity is not horrible, and the set itself is full of pleasent surprises. and yes, JHFans Video is making the difference. I just hope he completes the sequence with the original unedited fight to the death, that would be great.

Thank you so much scoreman! I haven't heard it yet, but I cannot express how much I appreciate you uploading this.

get the 64k version to satisfy your appetite. the soundqulity is not horrible, and the set itself is full of pleasent surprises. and yes, JHFans Video is making the difference. I just hope he completes the sequence with the original unedited fight to the death, that would be great.

The problem with that original unedited version is that it doesn't fit that sequence as is at all. The music is just too long for that sequence.

When I'm doing my editing, often times I'll use slow motion in certain scenes to stretch a sequence out to fit the music. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

The problem with that original unedited version is that it doesn't fit that sequence as is at all. The music is just too long for that sequence.

When I'm doing my editing, often times I'll use slow motion in certain scenes to stretch a sequence out to fit the music. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

so there is an extended version of that scene? hope it is on the blu-ray extended cut.

I wonder if the theatrical re-release later this year (allegedly with 40 minutes of additional footage) will feature the 'war' track in its intended form. There could have been brief splices taken out from that specific scene that may be edited back in for this.

I wonder if the theatrical re-release later this year (allegedly with 40 minutes of additional footage) will feature the 'war' track in its intended form. There could have been brief splices taken out from that specific scene that may be edited back in for this.

the theatrical re-release has a confirmed 6 minutes of additional footage, which will be most likely everything they add. one of the new scenes can be identified via the 5cd set: The Hunt, and there will be scenes with grace as school teacher for the Na`vI children. Don�t get your hopes to high up for something fancy.However they add a scene with some animals which don�t appear in the current version (maybe part of the hunt). but re-editing of the score...never.

Some of those 40 minutes will be unfinished. The second Blu-ray/DVD release (coming in November) will have the same six minutes of footage completed for a theatrical re-release, in addition to a longer "workprint" version with animatics and other unfinished shot placeholders.

For all his skills as a filmmaker, music editing is one area where James Cameron IS AN IDIOT.

I wouldn't say he's a total idiot when it comes to music...I mean, look at the climactic scene of Aliens when Ripley defeats the alien queen - the original music Horner wrote for that was the "Resolution & Hyperspace" cue. That cue was a great, hopeful, perfect finale cue - when it was tracked into the end of Die Hard. Cameron tracked in "Bishop's Countdown" instead, and made that scene far more exciting and gripping.

I wonder if the theatrical re-release later this year (allegedly with 40 minutes of additional footage) will feature the 'war' track in its intended form. There could have been brief splices taken out from that specific scene that may be edited back in for this.

I think it's supposed to be 6 minutes of new footage. The maximum length a movie can be released in analog IMAX theaters seems to be 170 minutes. But yes, Cameron said there was about 40 minutes of unused material in total. As much as I like it, I don't think I could sit through 200 minutes of Avatar though. Funny, considering that I have no problems whatsoever listening through 5CDs of score. :D

i still hope the LotR Extended Blu-Ray has all the missing scenes some of which even appeared in the trailers but not in any filmversion so far, like eowyn and gimli trying to protect the refugees of rohan in helms deep caves.and i want ot see bloopers, ringwraiths dripping over their robes and falling on their noses..sorry for off-topic...

I think it's supposed to be 6 minutes of new footage. The maximum length a movie can be released in analog IMAX theaters seems to be 170 minutes. But yes, Cameron said there was about 40 minutes of unused material in total. As much as I like it, I don't think I could sit through 200 minutes of Avatar though. Funny, considering that I have no problems whatsoever listening through 5CDs of score. :D

haha I feel exactly the same way - I guess a lot of other things can be accomplished while listening to five hours worth of music (artwork, reading, schoolwork, etc), but it is a bit confining having to sit in a theatre to see a 200 minute movie that many of us have already seen at least twice...
(Not to mention the ticket prices!)

I would really like to see the unreleased footage coupled with its intended score, though.

I guess if they really wanted to, they could have an intermission or part I and part II...

That's what they did with The Lord of the Rings Director's Cut Editions. They put them on 2 disks. Although... that was a space issue.

That's what they did with The Lord of the Rings Director's Cut Editions. They put them on 2 disks. Although... that was a space issue.

and also with the tenth anniversary collector's edition of James Cameron's Titanic... It wouldn't surprise me if they do decide to release the film a few years from now on double disks.

But then again, the Titanic re-release on 2 disks was also due to space. I don't think there was any extra footage added into the film itself to make it any longer. hmm :/

how does blu-ray compare to dvd in terms of space capacity?

how does blu-ray compare to dvd in terms of space capacity?

Single layer DVD - 4.35 GB
Dual Layer DVD (most movies are on dual layer discs) - nearly 8.5 GB

(this can vary if the discs are double-sided)

Single layer Blu-ray - 25 GB
Dual Layer Blu-ray - 50 GB

Avatar takes up about 46, 47 GB out of the disc it's on.

Avatar takes up about 46, 47 GB out of the disc it's on.

Hence the lack of extras.

BTW would anyone be interested in the screenplay for Avatar? It contains all the deleted scenes. Including the school stuff and the love making.

how many times do you have to post before you can PM somebody?
Thx in advance

how many times do you have to post before you can PM somebody?
Thx in advance

I have read that it is 5 times, but I am not sure. I should also post more now, I have only 3 posts :)

Someone has some news from the upload? Because it's not anymore the beginning of the week... lol i don't want to inflame the topic or be direspectful. But I'd just like to know if it's always on the way, if it's working...
Please don't take this badly :)

Thanks to scoreman, to the uploader for their time!

The 6 minutes are confirmed for the rerelease. The additional 40 minutes were not rendered by Weta, so they are unfinished and more like game graphics. They will only appear in the extended release in November.

Someone has some news from the upload? Because it's not anymore the beginning of the week... lol i don't want to inflame the topic or be direspectful. But I'd just like to know if it's always on the way, if it's working...
Please don't take this badly :)

Thanks to scoreman, to the uploader for their time!

Look mate please wait. We've already had a lot of trouble on this thread and people that keep asking for the upload is just going to make things worse. As far as I'm concerned if you haven't heard anything contrary then assume the upload is on it's way.

Scoreman has been very, very kind to us and it's not like he had any free time already. If you can't handle waiting then please go somewhere else and/or try to find it yourself.

But will that famous 40-mins. included in movie? Or will be in bonus, like in rerelease of "Dune"?

and also with the tenth anniversary collector's edition of James Cameron's Titanic... It wouldn't surprise me if they do decide to release the film a few years from now on double disks.

But then again, the Titanic re-release on 2 disks was also due to space. I don't think there was any extra footage added into the film itself to make it any longer. hmm :/

The deleted/extended scenes were on a third disc. All of them were completely finished up to the quality of the film itself. I made an extended version of the film with them.


But will that famous 40-mins. included in movie? Or will be in bonus, like in rerelease of "Dune"?

That has been answered several times now. Read the last few posts above to see that.

hey there, just signed up.

nice forum !

been reading through all topics regarding the avatar score.
whoa that took time. I hope Ill have the chance to get a HQ copy
from scoreman.

allrigth i just checked the 60kbits version.

why is all tracks's order mixed up ? same goes for the IDtag infos.

is it how the CDs came ?

Has anyone gotten a PM from scoreman yet for the links?

Has anyone gotten a PM from scoreman yet for the links?

I don't think so. I assume it's just a matter of timing - getting the free time to upload such large files.

I don't think so. I assume it's just a matter of timing - getting the free time to upload such large files.

Or he's still watching the DVD with his family. sexpot

Or he's still watching the DVD with his family. sexpot

9 Disc DVD :D

Has anyone gotten a PM from scoreman yet for the links?

Hmm, is this only coming out via PM from Scoreman?

Hmm, is this only coming out via PM from Scoreman?

Wait and see. All anyone can do.

9 Disc DVD :D

Your avatar (pardon the pun) makes me thirsty for Tropicana. :)

Your avatar (pardon the pun) makes me thirsty for Tropicana. :)

...I have to totally agree.....curses! *runs off to the kitchen*

:O Unbelievable, many thanks scoreman!

allrigth i just checked the 60kbits version.

why is all tracks's order mixed up ? same goes for the IDtag infos.

is it how the CDs came ?

I'm afraid only scoreman knows the answer to those questions. But yes, the tags are rather interesting. There's all kinds of album tags, like "complete score", "sessions" or even "rough mixes" and a lot of them mention the total amount of discs, namely "4 of 4". There are also various covers embedded in a lot of the files. It's almost as if the files came from three or more sources. On the other hand, it's just tags...

I think we're have a deal with some kind of "bootleg of bootlegs" created from different rough mixes and recording sessions of score. I'd like to call it just "complete recording sessions" = CRS.

I have just read the other thread created by Into The Storm and i noticed Scoreman say that he also had rough edits... It could be that Scoreman has added everything in as best as chronological order as possible? That would certainly justify the tag entries!

The disc 4 of 4 scenario would appear to be the original 4cd Scoreman said he had plus (i am only assuming) a 1 cd of rough edits/mixes... I am not sure, but i am guessing the entries that were labelled xxxx are from the actual commercial release. They appear to be similar (will not say same as i am not sure) as the commercially released tracks... Or they could be possibly variants on the track ala rough mixes that didnt make it to the movie, who knows? I dare say Scoreman. Either way, this is an amazing release and cannto wait for the upgraded bitrate, not that the 64k bitrate is bad actually, it is certainly good quaility considering it is indeed 64k.

i think the original release not contain tracks names but only reels name like :

1m1
1m2 (v1.5)
1m2
1m3 (v5.1)
2m1
2m2

etc etc....

Scoreman had the decency to use the vbr option when he encoded the 64k files. That preserved a lot of the sound quality. I'm glad there was none of those 'tunnel' artifacts that usually come with such a crunch. Thanx again for your goldmine, Scoreman.

It seems it was originally a 4cd set, then there were added some new material and was arranged a 5cd set. Still, it's not well arranged as there 3 repeated tracks.

Also, note that the vocal performance from the last of part "Jake's First Flight" (album version) is not available on any of the recording sessions tracks, so I'm thinking these are not the complete recording sessions, and still there's some material missing.

It seems it was originally a 4cd set, then there were added some new material and was arranged a 5cd set. Still, it's not well arranged as there 3 repeated tracks.

Also, note that the vocal performance from the last of part "Jake's First Flight" (album version) is not available on any of the recording sessions tracks, so I'm thinking these are not the complete recording sessions, and still there's some material missing.

Next we'll probably find out that they made a 7 disc set.

I am a SLSK user and noticed a user on there *The Eleventh Hour* has the 5cd set in WAV but when i went to view his files i could not find it, but in search it appeared to have more tracks than this 5cd set. Perhaps someone can grab it and upload it (if they can find it) i did leave a message but no answer of yet

Sorry SLSK = Soulseek (i am sure most, if not all knew that, just wanted to check :))

I am a SLSK user and noticed a user on there *The Eleventh Hour* has the 5cd set in WAV but when i went to view his files i could not find it, but in search it appeared to have more tracks than this 5cd set. Perhaps someone can grab it and upload it (if they can find it) i did leave a message but no answer of yet

Sorry SLSK = Soulseek (i am sure most, if not all knew that, just wanted to check :))

It's scoreman

If more people here used soulseek no one would have to worry about "uploading" anything.

Much, much easier.

Good luck trying to get files from scoreman (The Eleventh Hour) from Soulseek, it's nearly impossible.

It's scoreman

Hehe, must be quite amusing to him to see the low quality rip he made for this forum find its way back to slsk ;)

cd 2 - 5 has track version informations (like "6m2 v904"... but not cd1...)

i'm looking for informations about cd1

It's scoreman

Ah, was unaware, makes sense though i guess!

Scoreman probably shares userlist only.

no...

I'm new on this board and just found some interesting, the 5cd set of the avatar score. Couldn't believe it to see, that there is really such a big collection.

Btw: What this soulseek? Do you think he shares this over that?
In honor to scoreman who has this collection. I understand that all users here just want to have this. But you saw what happened after this by saying 'upload this' or 'When can we have this?'.

I just say, good thinks can take time.

Sorry for possible bad english.

Definitely psyched to hear this one in its entirety when it finally comes out, thanks scoreman!

I'm looking for the Ending credits from the avatar movie where could I find it?

This is frankly amazing! The quality is quite good actually.

@ Scoreman:
Are you going to make to lossless version available to everyone here on the board?
Thanks a lot!