Zak
04-04-2010, 12:39 AM
EDIT: If anyone actually has the patience to get as far as understanding this post, then awesome.
So I've been replaying this game, and out of pure curiosity, trying to understand the mechanics of who says what based on who is in your party.
For instance, at Fort Condor, when you go rest, only one person will ask, and after testing it a little by moving my party around and going to rest, it seems like there is a character priority order, and not who's 2nd or 3rd in your party. Like, Aeris takes priority over everyone, then Tifa over anyone else, and Red XIII will never ask (still not sure about Cait Sith, Vincent, and Cid and where they are on this scale, as I have yet to get them, but just an example).
So I'm messing around a little with the Dolphin scene in Junon right before Bottomswell. So, in that scene, one of the two custom party members says something about how they hate Shinra, while the other freaks out about the monster (and you can tell who will say what by who's standing on the right and who's standing on the left). So I had a party with Aeris and Yuffie. Aeris talked about Shinra, while Yuffie freaked out about the monster. I tried swapping their positions in the party to see if they'd swap roles, but they kept the same role. So, conclusion, there is some priority factor. That still doesn't mean there is necessarily a linear order (example being Aeris might be with Yuffie and Aeris talks about Shinra, Yuffie might be with Red and Yuffie speaks of Shinra, and Red might be with Aeris while Red would say it). Of course if it is a linear order, the Shinra line's priority order would be the monster line's order backwards.
But after testing each of the 10 pairs it seems there IS a linear priority order, the one for Shinra being: Aeris, Barret, Tifa, Red XIII, Yuffie.
Meaning, Yuffie will never have a line about Shinra, while Aeris will never have a line about the monster.
Except, one problem with my whole deduction is this Youtube video contradicts it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhMPAedu4h0
Here we have Red XIII and Aeris, and Red says the line about Shinra, while AERIS says the line about the monster. Also, I can even testify that in MY game, every party I make with Red and Aeris, makes that scene the other way around no matter what the party order, as I said before.
So my question is... how is this possible? Is it just different in different versions of the game? Or is there a customary status determining the priority for such things, rather than a set-in-stone order? Like how many battles they won or monsters they killed?
Anybody know?
So I've been replaying this game, and out of pure curiosity, trying to understand the mechanics of who says what based on who is in your party.
For instance, at Fort Condor, when you go rest, only one person will ask, and after testing it a little by moving my party around and going to rest, it seems like there is a character priority order, and not who's 2nd or 3rd in your party. Like, Aeris takes priority over everyone, then Tifa over anyone else, and Red XIII will never ask (still not sure about Cait Sith, Vincent, and Cid and where they are on this scale, as I have yet to get them, but just an example).
So I'm messing around a little with the Dolphin scene in Junon right before Bottomswell. So, in that scene, one of the two custom party members says something about how they hate Shinra, while the other freaks out about the monster (and you can tell who will say what by who's standing on the right and who's standing on the left). So I had a party with Aeris and Yuffie. Aeris talked about Shinra, while Yuffie freaked out about the monster. I tried swapping their positions in the party to see if they'd swap roles, but they kept the same role. So, conclusion, there is some priority factor. That still doesn't mean there is necessarily a linear order (example being Aeris might be with Yuffie and Aeris talks about Shinra, Yuffie might be with Red and Yuffie speaks of Shinra, and Red might be with Aeris while Red would say it). Of course if it is a linear order, the Shinra line's priority order would be the monster line's order backwards.
But after testing each of the 10 pairs it seems there IS a linear priority order, the one for Shinra being: Aeris, Barret, Tifa, Red XIII, Yuffie.
Meaning, Yuffie will never have a line about Shinra, while Aeris will never have a line about the monster.
Except, one problem with my whole deduction is this Youtube video contradicts it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhMPAedu4h0
Here we have Red XIII and Aeris, and Red says the line about Shinra, while AERIS says the line about the monster. Also, I can even testify that in MY game, every party I make with Red and Aeris, makes that scene the other way around no matter what the party order, as I said before.
So my question is... how is this possible? Is it just different in different versions of the game? Or is there a customary status determining the priority for such things, rather than a set-in-stone order? Like how many battles they won or monsters they killed?
Anybody know?