I submit that since square released these 4 games around the turn from 16 to 32 bit systems, that they have never released as good a game since. My question is who were the people who developed the story lines for these games and what games have they made since?

I submit that since square released these 4 games around the turn from 16 to 32 bit systems, that they have never released as good a game since. My question is who were the people who developed the story lines for these games and what games have they made since?

What's wrong with Chrono Cross, FFTactics, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve & Legend of Mana?

Anyway

Masato Kato wrote Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masato_Kato

He also Wrote Xenogears with Tetsuya Takahashi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Takahashi

FFVI was wrote by Yoshinori Kitase
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshinori_Kitase
He also wrote VII with Kazushige Nojima
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazushige_Nojima

I submit that since square released these 4 games around the turn from 16 to 32 bit systems, that they have never released as good a game since. My question is who were the people who developed the story lines for these games and what games have they made since?

Most of those development teams have either disbanded and formed other teams within Square or have left the company.

FF6 isn't the best 16-bit FF game, FF4 is.
FF7 isn't the best 32-bit FF game, FF9 is.

FF6 isn't the best 16-bit FF game, it and FF4 are.
FF7 isn't the best 32-bit FF game, FF9 is.

Np.

FF6 isn't the best 16-bit FF game, FF4 is.
FF7 isn't the best 32-bit FF game, FF9 is.

Damn, man.

FF6 isn't the best 16-bit FF game, FF4 is.


At this point it was okay.



FF7 isn't the best 32-bit FF game, FF9 is.

:facepalm:

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Every FF game is the best FF game :D That's my 30 cents :D

they cant all be the same. the games have to change and evolve. just be glad u had the ones u call the best.

FF6 isn't the best 16-bit FF game, FF4 is.
Who knows. :/


FF7 isn't the best 32-bit FF game, FF9 is.
+1 fap.

FF6 isn't the best 16-bit FF game, FF4 is.

Says you. ;)

FF6 isn't the best 16-bit FF game, FF4 is.

I hold both these games rather highly, but I do prefer FFIV over FFVI myself.


FF7 isn't the best 32-bit FF game, FF9 is.

What I'm about to say will probably get me flamed, but w/e

I disagree. IMO, FFVIII is the better one, then FFIX, then FFVII.

They have put out good games since those days, they are just spread out more in time now, but yes the days of the SNES & PS1 era they were at their peak, releasing great games all the time.

uhh, good submission thrush, i guess.

I disagree. IMO, FFVIII is the better one, then FFIX, then FFVII.

What's so special about VIII that you find it better?

Because Death's Head is like Squall; he doesn't take nobody's bullshit :D

What's so special about VIII that you find it better?

I found FFVII to be mediocre (at least it was to me). It had it's moments but in all honesty after two playthroughs (First being to finish the game and experience the story, the second doing all the sidequests etc.), I haven't played it and enjoyed it since.

FFIX I just couldn't get attached to the characters, story, etc.

FFVIII on the otherhand I enjoyed for multiple reasons. I liked the music, as there were quite a few tracks I enjoyed quite a bit (Man with a Machine-Gun comes to mind). For some reason, the characters seemed more realistic to me, than Cloud and co. or Zidane and his motley troupe.

I did like the Junction system, though it is incredibly easy to manipulate to your benefit, but the Draw system was tiresome after the first few times. It'll also hold a sentimental value to me, as it was the favorite game of a close friend of mine, who passed away in 2003.


Because Death's Head is like Squall; he doesn't take nobody's bullshit :D

Heh, that too.

FFVIII on the otherhand I enjoyed for multiple reasons. I liked the music, as there were quite a few tracks I enjoyed quite a bit (Man with a Machine-Gun comes to mind). For some reason, the characters seemed more realistic to me, than Cloud and co. or Zidane and his motley troupe.


Really? To me the Story & Characters of FFVII felt like this:

"The whole game takes place in a fictional world that's being written by a twenty two year-old virgin. It's his expression of all his angst over what he feels are his lost teenage years. After disc one he actually gets a girlfriend and gets laid and at that point he realizes what a whiny load of bullshit it was and he decides to kill off his character that once represented himself. A little later on he gets a new computer and the old one is handed down to his little thirteen year old brother who finds the story and decides to continue it on from that point."

EDIT: this coment is from another person.

Really? To me the Story & Characters of FFVII felt like this:

"The whole game takes place in a fictional world that's being written by a twenty two year-old virgin. It's his expression of all his angst over what he feels are his lost teenage years. After disc one he actually gets a girlfriend and gets laid and at that point he realizes what a whiny load of bullshit it was and he decides to kill off his character that once represented himself. A little later on he gets a new computer and the old one is handed down to his little thirteen year old brother who finds the story and decides to continue it on from that point."

EDIT: this coment is from another person.

Everyone has their own opinion about what games they like, and while I may not agree with it, I do respect it. As I said, there are a few reasons as to why I like FFVIII more than VII and IX, also with how the 'Compilation of FFVII' came out, really pushed me away from VII, and after trying to play IX again (and not being able to get past the first disc due to loss of interest), I can still play FFVIII and enjoy it (As I did a couple of months ago when I played the PC version.).

I can still play FFVIII and enjoy it (As I did a couple of months ago when I played the PC version.).

The gameplay & the sidequests are the thing that made the game high replay value.

FFVII was more steampunk-oriented like VI, and had a very charming feel to it until the Compilation came along and turned it into the more technological, futuristic BS every game seems to try to be these days.

FFVII was more steampunk-oriented like VI, and had a very charming feel to it until the Compilation came along and turned it into the more technological, futuristic BS every game seems to try to be these days.

A nice touch of future pretty much makes me blow my load. Things like how FF12 had big spacey looking airships and stuff, while still retaining combat that is strictly fantasy, and mostly naturalistic locales is perfect for me. Another example being Tales of Vesperia, although less technological, the whole blastia thing, and think rita bringing up that display all the time, was just a perfect balance. Chrono Trigger also.

Straight fantasy, no matter how original, is never as interesting as the fantasy/technology mix for me, hence why ff1 thru 5 bore me (besides the fact ff1 through 10 are virtually unplayable to me due to the awful combat system they all are variations of.)

All these games suck when compared to real games like Mass Effect.

ff12 does it right. it's not widespread 'high technology' so it can work. there are airships... crystals... even guns. But combat can remain fantasy-based because tech is smartly restricted. Doesn't require much suspension of disbelief that way.

whereas it makes less sense in a game like FF7. the antagonists have legions of guys with real guns. Tech advanced enough to give people awkward gun arms. Yet you have a small team of people who for some reason refuse to use them (mostly). maybe because all those guns shoot practice pellets except when aimed at poor Zachary.

kidding aside, it's mostly forgiveable. Until it really stands out in the compilation where what could have been excused by PS1 era game mechanics is instead embraced in the form of a DBZ-like cast with power levels in excess of 9000.

That may work for Xenogears (where it is explained beyond thoroughly), but not FF7 Comp and other games like them imo.

people who have magic and/or are SOLDIERS and/or are neither so use guns ie. barret? idk, i have never played FF7, and probably won't ever.

yeah play mass effect it is awesome

A nice touch of future pretty much makes me blow my load. Things like how FF12 had big spacey looking airships and stuff, while still retaining combat that is strictly fantasy, and mostly naturalistic locales is perfect for me. Another example being Tales of Vesperia, although less technological, the whole blastia thing, and think rita bringing up that display all the time, was just a perfect balance. Chrono Trigger also.

I definitely agree with you there. Mainly it just put me off that they decided to change the feel of FFVII's world to such an extreme. None of the compilation titles even feel like the same universe. However, with games like FFXII, the blend of future/fantasy feels right at home, and I honestly couldn't imagine it any other way. And I think Chrono Trigger pulled it off rather nicely too because each time period seems perfectly natural, as it would be in actuality. Tales of Vesperia is a game I'll have to check out, because let's just say there's too many great games I've yet to experience (including Vagrant Story).


Straight fantasy, no matter how original, is never as interesting as the fantasy/technology mix for me, hence why ff1 thru 5 bore me (besides the fact ff1 through 10 are virtually unplayable to me due to the awful combat system they all are variations of.)

This is another thing I love about the series; even if somebody dislikes one game, there's always another one they will appreciate :D It's very well-rounded. I personally love every FF equally, but some people have different tastes, and for each one, there seems to be a FF title to complement it.

Straight fantasy, no matter how original, is never as interesting as the fantasy/technology mix for me, hence why ff1 thru 5 bore me (besides the fact ff1 through 10 are virtually unplayable to me due to the awful combat system they all are variations of.)

I find myself at odds with what you say above. True it's up to the gamer themselves to decide what they like, but as a fan of both 'straight fantasy' and 'sci-fi/fantasy', I enjoy both immensely and would recommend to anyone who likes RPG's to give 'straight rpgs' like Breath of Fire, the Suikoden Series, Jade Empire, Oblivion and even Dragon Age: Origins, as well as the 'sci-fi rpgs' like Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, Xenogears etc.

One RPG I've played and would recommend has a blending of both 'straight' and 'sci-fi' is Skies of Arcadia. There are other RPG's which incorporate both styles as well, like the Star Ocean series.

Then there's Shenmue. Not your typicall 'straight' rpg and most assuredly not 'sci-fi' rpg. Give that a try.

I was never able to get into Skies of Arcadia no matter how many people said it was great. never really figured out why either

I find myself at odds with what you say above. True it's up to the gamer themselves to decide what they like, but as a fan of both 'straight fantasy' and 'sci-fi/fantasy', I enjoy both immensely and would recommend to anyone who likes RPG's to give 'straight rpgs' like Breath of Fire, the Suikoden Series, Jade Empire, Oblivion and even Dragon Age: Origins, as well as the 'sci-fi rpgs' like Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, Xenogears etc.

One RPG I've played and would recommend has a blending of both 'straight' and 'sci-fi' is Skies of Arcadia. There are other RPG's which incorporate both styles as well, like the Star Ocean series.

Then there's Shenmue. Not your typicall 'straight' rpg and most assuredly not 'sci-fi' rpg. Give that a try.

You've misunderstood me. I've tried out and enjoyed a lot of straight fantasy RPGS, such as the breath of fire series, among others, but I'm just saying, it doesn't do it for me the same way. And you misunderstood what I meant too, Straight up sci-fi rpgs like the ones you listed are all entirely futuristic... I'm not really a fan of that much either. I like the middle ground, the hybrid, its where the most creative worlds and characters really come out in my opinion, the world that has a mix of both fantasy and technology. I like the idea of the blending. I'm definitely interested in trying Star Ocean out for its similarities to the Tales of series, which im a RAGING fan of. I'll have to look into Skies of Arcadia also, i suppose.