Question2
01-10-2010, 04:38 PM
PC version :

Squall is about 6 levels higher than everyone else at this point, since everyone gains levels at the same rate, is there any way for the rest to catch up? Same goes for GFs.

I dont suppose theres a less tedious option to drawing magic rather than spamming draw constantly?

How do you challenge caraway to a game of cards for rinoa's card? I cannot find a time to talk to Caraway, immediately after he enters the room, he starts the briefing, we leave the house, after that the moment i enter the house he leaves again and i no longer have a chance to talk to him.

Is there any way to alt-tab out of the game?

How do i exit back to the title screen?

Is draw affected by magic? I noticed that Zell with nothing junctioned to magic almost always fails to draw anything, while my other 2 members with magic junctioned almost always draw 8 or 9 spells in one go.

Question2
01-11-2010, 11:27 AM
bump

IDX
01-11-2010, 10:14 PM
From what I can remember, junctioning magic to your MAG stat does increase your drawing capabilities. And you can play cards with Caraway on disc two but in order to get him to play with the Rinoa card, you must lose your Ifrit card to him. But you can get it back by playing against Galbadia's headmaster, Martine, in Fisherman's Horizon by the governor's house. And there's nothing you can do about the starting levels of characters and GFs. Just grind if you want their levels to get close to Squall's.

And don't double post just to say "bump" on a thread that's only a freaking day old.

discodan
01-12-2010, 07:46 PM
LOL

Question2
01-12-2010, 11:38 PM
In addition to the above questions that werent answered :

-How do you tell which GFs are "opposite element" from each other? Ifrit and Shiva are really obvious, but the rest?

-What is a "no level" game?

-How are enemy levels calculated? Is it an average of your party member's levels? Does it take the lowest? Or something else?

IDX
01-12-2010, 11:44 PM
It's kinda obvious which ones are elementals and which ones aren't. Also which element they are. A "no level game" is pretty obvious too: never gain a level in the game. And as for enemy levels, I can't remember. But just to be safe, assume they'll be the level of your highest character.

Seru_Kai
01-12-2010, 11:55 PM
This kid has GOT to be fucking with you. Pretty sure most of this is in the game manual/the ingame help center.

Darth Revan
01-13-2010, 12:24 AM
This kid has GOT to be fucking with you. Pretty sure most of this is in the game manual/the ingame help center.

Or at least on numerous websites...

Question2, check out Gamefaqs (http://www.gamefaqs.com) or one of many other sites for the info.

Meltigemini
01-13-2010, 01:57 AM
Enemy levels are based on your current party's average level and can be in the range of about 3-4 levels higher or lower than this.

IDX
01-13-2010, 02:16 AM
This kid has GOT to be fucking with you. Pretty sure most of this is in the game manual/the ingame help center.

Well, there was that one kid in that FFVII thread :rolleyes:...

Seru_Kai
01-13-2010, 03:13 AM
Well, there was that one kid in that FFVII thread :rolleyes:...

But brah, that kid was on the journey of a lifetime! He needed our help damnit!

Darth Revan
01-13-2010, 03:19 AM
If the one in the FFVII section 'needed our help', then what does this one need?

Has a few ideas...

jakob
01-13-2010, 03:21 AM
Maybe he needs to get the map (Thread 73065) into the archive soon.

IDX
01-13-2010, 06:34 AM
Yeah, I didn't understand that thread at all.


But brah, that kid was on the journey of a lifetime! He needed our help damnit!

You may be on to something...

CC
01-13-2010, 06:49 AM
Sadly, some people just can't be bothered to follow simple directions. Sounds to me like somebody took a wrong turn when seeking the 'Lazy Gamers Lounge'.

jakob
01-13-2010, 07:26 AM
My main character is almost always ahead of the rest of the group in levels for most of the Final Fantasy titles, but the gap tends to get smaller in the higher levels. Lazy Gamers Lounge indeed.

@IDX: Yeah, it was complete nonsense, but I enjoyed it :D

IDX
01-13-2010, 08:29 AM
I wouldn't know. Last time I was in that thread was when there was only three posts in it.

Question2
01-13-2010, 06:40 PM
Regarding GF compatability, its not very obvious, as many GFs dont even have elements(Siren/Carbuncle for example), and for the ones that do, its not very obvious either(fire and water has no compatability issues, oddly enough). I did check some of the GF related FAQs on gamefaqs, but they all seemed to skip the issue of which GFs were compatible with which and vice-versa, and was hoping you guys woud have had more info on it.

Is there any way to go back to areas like the d-district prison after you have left them? Im pretty sure no.

Regarding the card game, has anyone figured out how the trading rules spread? Changing the rule in balamb by playing the card queen was easy enough, but after playing at balamb garden constantly, the rule suddenly switched to "One" from "Diff". After playing the card queen at dollet, the rule suddenly switched from "One" to "Direct", despite not actually having played any "Direct" games with the card queen.

After getting the card queen back to balamb and the trading rule back to "One", the trading rules in other regions seem to still be stuck on "Direct"(i assume this is somehow related to the dominant region the card queen talks about), but at this point the trading rules seem to be switching pretty much randomly with little to no action on my part(playing the card queen 10+ times under "Diff" rules failed to change the rules at all for example). Maybe it takes ingame or real time for the rules to spread out from what is considered the dominant region?

Q-Tip Trepe
01-13-2010, 08:42 PM
Siren is Water elemental.

Seru_Kai
01-14-2010, 12:03 AM
Since you're apparently serious, I'll do what I can from the start:

1.) Kill Squall until the other characters catch up, or if you can take him out of the party (can't remember) do it. As for GF's just don't equip them and they wont gain EXP/AP. It really doesn't matter if Squall is above the average level.

2.) The card game can be used to get magic, and is more fun/less tedious to me than drawing. But it depends on how good you are and how long you're willing to grind GF AP for abilities to be able to do it.

3.) You can challenge for the Rinoa card later in the game. I'm not entirely sure if you can do it right when you meet him, but the Rinoa card may only be available when you lose a specific card, and then win them both. So I'd wait til later.

4.) To Alt-Tab, hit Alt+Tab. If it doesn't work, check to make sure you're doing it right, or try Alt+f4. That always works.

5.)The escape or F1-F12 buttons are usually the group that has a pause button in there. From the pause should be a menu to exit the game. I'm not sure on this one because I've never played the PC version.

6.)I noticed the magic=drawing? question is already answered. ;)

7.) Are you meaning compatible with the player it's junctioned to? Or compatible to other GF's? Because a GF's compatibility is only important to the player it's junctioned too I believe. It affects the summoning speed and maybe even damage. As for the elements, just think, opposites are....opposites.

8.)D-District Prison re-entry? I'm saying no, but I'm not entirely sure.

9.)Gamefaqs.com would be a great help here, but iirc, the way to eliminate a rule is to continually ask to play, and the npc will ask to merge the rules, just say no. After doing so a certain number of times (random) they'll eliminate a rule (also random). It can take a few tries, but that's how I took out the random rule in Dollet early in the game. Also, if you're looking to spread rules just play anyone and everyone. You'll spread rules fast, like std's kinna fast.

/yourfuckingwelcome :D

Darth Revan
01-14-2010, 01:00 AM
Siren is Water elemental.

Wrong.

Siren's attack 'Silent Voice' deals non-elemental damage and inflicts Silence on all enemies. Leviathan deals Water damage with Tidal Wave. Leviathan is water elemental, Siren is non-elemental, aka typeless.

discodan
01-14-2010, 01:14 AM
Wrong.

Siren's attack 'Silent Voice' deals non-elemental damage and inflicts Silence on all enemies. Leviathan deals Water damage with Tidal Wave. Leviathan is water elemental, Siren is non-elemental, aka typeless.

Yea, i guess the purple water fooled em

Seru_Kai
01-14-2010, 01:19 AM
Yea, i guess the purple water fooled em

Never drink the purple drink!

discodan
01-14-2010, 01:27 AM
Never drink the purple drink!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZRAuRX9Ie0

Sugar-Water-Purple

IDX
01-14-2010, 01:31 AM
I thought she was considered a "Poison" type? But that doesn't deal with elements I guess.

And I decided to take a look at the questions you asked before Question and you did NOT ask about compatibilities of the GFs. Apparently, from the start, each GF will not have the same compatibility to all characters. You can check this from the GF menu to see which GF is most compatible to which character. The more that character uses that GF, then the faster it will come out. But if that character has other GFs junctioned to him/her, then the other GFs will get "jealous" and the result will be a lower compatibility with them. And because you have trouble detecting obvious things, then those "jealous" GFs won't be as quick to come out.

But don't worry, you won't notice the change right away. But you can see it in the GF menu.

Question2
01-14-2010, 02:59 PM
I was referring to the opposite element of GFs, since using some GFs will decrease compatability with other GFs much more than normal(ifrit/shiva being an example).

Ive noticed the following so far : Ifrit/Shiva, Quetzatacol/Leviathan, Siren/Cabuncle.

I know how to spread/abolish card game rules(which sadly involves a lot of reloading due to the randomness...). Im more concerned with the trading rules, "One" "Diff" "All" and "Direct". They seem to randomly change due to no input, the FAQs ive seen dont talk much about it(they just say challenge card queen and the rule may change).

For example i managed to get "Diff" established in balamb/timber/deling city, with balamb being the dominant region. I go to FH and for some reason the trading rule is "One".

Also noticed that in sudden death games, from the second round onwards, there seems to be a chance that you and your opponent will swap cards(if you have seifer and your opponent has geezard, on the second round your opponent might have seifer and you might ahve geezard instead), but ownership of the cards itself doesnt change after the game. Seems kind of odd, since that wasnt mentioend in the rule description...

Is it normal for some NPCs to take a long time to decide their moves? The boy in balamb garden that runs around the map decides very quickly for example, while someone like the FH mayor can take 5+ seconds per card(and thats with 5 cards in his deck...) before deciding which to use.

Alt-tab doesnt work for the PC version. Seems disabled. Although i can get back to desktop with ctrl-alt-delete and opening the task manager, with a low chance of the game crashing.

Also found out that holding ctrl+r on the field/world map will quit you back to the title screen, but theres still the annoying squaresoft logo to deal with.

In regards to Squall's level gap with the other party members, i found it easier to edit his xp with a memory editor.

Argus Zephyrus
01-14-2010, 10:06 PM
I thought she was considered a "Poison" type? But that doesn't deal with elements I guess.
...
This isn't Pok�mon.
:facepalm:




If you do not like Squall being several levels ahead of the rest of the cast, you can just kill him and do a bit of grinding like that, lol. The rest of the crew levels up without him. Too bad, "Squally Squirrel." (as my sister calls him, lawlz)

Seru_Kai
01-15-2010, 12:41 AM
^^ But the OP already clarified that he'd rather go into a save and augment the EXP for Squall, instead of taking the easy way and just straight murdering him.

IDX
01-15-2010, 02:26 AM
He should jerk off while trying to use the boost ability if he likes challenges then ;).

Argus Zephyrus
01-15-2010, 02:52 AM
He should jerk off while trying to use the boost ability if he likes challenges then ;).

CC
01-15-2010, 08:18 AM
He should jerk off while trying to use both hands if he likes challenges then ;).

Seru_Kai
01-15-2010, 08:27 AM
I like wanking to Kermitt the Frog anyday. ;)

CC
01-15-2010, 08:46 AM
:billymays:

Darth Revan
01-15-2010, 08:56 AM
:sigh:

IDX
01-15-2010, 10:52 AM
I like wanking to Kermitt the Frog anyday. ;)

:rob:

Argus Zephyrus
01-20-2010, 10:46 PM

Edmond Dantes
01-20-2010, 11:39 PM
well lets just throw you a Wankathon then, Seru.

Seru_Kai
01-21-2010, 01:52 AM
well lets just throw you a Wankathon then, Seru.

What a fgt.

IDX
01-21-2010, 02:20 AM
:rob:

Argus Zephyrus
01-21-2010, 02:25 AM

Agent0042
01-21-2010, 02:51 AM
Okay, I think that's enough of this...