CC
12-11-2009, 09:27 AM
I, for one, am all for it! Also, maybe with a little bit of substance to the ending; I realize that's what Advent Children and DoC are for, but after beating the original, it just felt kind of stale to watch almost nothing happen after finally beating that one-winged . . . eh, angel. I think a PS3 remake would be the definitive version of FFVII, but that's just me. Any thoughts?

Goren
12-11-2009, 09:30 AM
INB4NeoXzhan

Neg
12-11-2009, 09:30 AM
INB4NEO

It says in the forum charter that VII remake threads are a no no. Please read the forum charters, in the future.

Darth Revan
12-11-2009, 09:30 AM
I know that you're a new member on the forums, but topics like this usually degenerate into flame fests. People on one side arguing for a remake, people on the other side flaming it.

Personally I'm one who doesn't want a remake. I've stated my reasons in numerous other posts, so I'm not going to go into detail or get back into the fire, so to speak. Be warned though, that threads like this usually are closed pdq, due to the forum charter stating no remake threads.

CC
12-11-2009, 09:39 AM
Ohhhhh, I see :O Sorry about that, I'm taking this one step at a time ;)

LordBlackudder
12-11-2009, 11:08 AM
it's very likely to happen.

they want all the original production members to be back to make it though,

it will probably be multi platform.

supdup
12-11-2009, 11:25 AM
They probably will when they're out of ideas. Just to milk more money out of the series. Perhaps a playable Advent Children? Who knows?

Darth Revan
12-11-2009, 11:29 AM
I'm thinking this thread will be closed soon to prevent a flame war erupting.

puddles123
12-12-2009, 09:28 AM
I remember hearing a few months ago how Square's policy on remaking games has been to only remake them when they aren't really playable on the current generation of consoles/PC operating platforms. Which is why they have remade up until FFIV, I believe, and are probably working on FFV and FFVI at this point since those were SNES era games which don't really pass on to the consoles of today.

However, given that FF7 was the first playstation game, and playstation 3 is backwards compatible to work with that, I doubt they'll consider it until the hypothetical playstation 4 is released. Then we would be able to see FFVII in insanely awesome graphics of the 'future', lol.

Tanis
12-12-2009, 09:41 AM
Hi, have you SEEN my sig?

Darth Revan
12-12-2009, 09:42 AM
... and so it begins...

:sigh:


/sits and waits for a mod to close this thread

Tanis
12-12-2009, 09:49 AM
You know if they would fix the things that I don't like about FF7:
Weak characters, boring battle system, lackluster OST, poor dialogue

I'd play the game.

I do think FF7 had a decent base in that 'semi-predictable 90s American kids cartoon' sort of a way.


Is it overrated? God yes.
Does it have potential? Sure.

If SE did more of a 're-imagination' than a 'remade' would I play it? Yeah, sure, why not.

Then I'd ask for FF4/6/8 to be remade.
:tksays:

Seru_Kai
12-12-2009, 09:58 AM
This thread is doomed to close, but I'll add in I guess.

I would buy it if it was remade, mainly just for the graphics and hopefully voice acting. Ignoring all the hate that this game gets, simple things like fixing the grammar errors or lego graphics would give the fans (or VII fans) a reason to play it again.

On the other hand, I can see why it shouldn't be remade, mainly because it would be just another addition in the FFVII sideshow that is a cash cow. If they focused the energy that they use for the VII series, they could make an excellent FF??? game that would make the series valued again.

Would I buy it if it was remade? Yes
Would I stress myself out if it wasn't? No

CC
12-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Hey guys! I appreciate all your thoughts on this; I should have read the charter before posting this, however. I'm essentially brand new to these forums; I didn't realize at the time that threads like this could be a problem. In the future I'll keep that in mind, but thanks again ;) And hopefully someone will close this before it escalates into an argument, which I would NOT like to see :O

supdup
12-14-2009, 11:58 PM
which I would NOT like to see :O

*cough* yeah *cough* *wheeze*. Who wants to see 2 people make idiots of themselves on the internet? Not me *cough* *cough*

CC
12-15-2009, 12:06 AM
Well, I'd feel bad if I sparked a conflict just by asking a question, but I've seen it happen numerous times, on this site included :O

TM
12-15-2009, 12:14 AM
FFVII Remake


:tommydissapproves:

Darth Revan
12-15-2009, 12:18 AM
*cough* yeah *cough* *wheeze*. Who wants to see 2 people make idiots of themselves on the internet? Not me *cough* *cough*

There is a reason threads about remakes are not allowed. They degenerate ito flame sessions, people for it and people against it, hurling comments/abuse at each other.

There have been numerous threads pop up in the past about this very topic, and they have always turned into threads of abuse etc aimed at anyone else who has posted in the thread. I'm not saying that is what this one will turn into, but going by past examples, it's best that these threads don't pop up.

One of the moderators for this section will shut this one down soon BEFORE things escalate.

CC
12-15-2009, 12:34 AM
Curse my new-guy-ness :O

supdup
12-15-2009, 12:40 AM
Hey your like only a week newer then me

CC
12-15-2009, 12:46 AM
Woa, I never noticed that < : - O *Puts a hand on your shoulder* Then we must stick togethah, my brothah!!

supdup
12-15-2009, 02:23 AM
*takes hand off shoulder* hehehe *laughs awkwardly* *runs*

topopoz
12-15-2009, 02:54 AM
Not remake, but remaster would be perfect.

TM
12-15-2009, 10:13 AM
Square should just forget FF and stick with Kingdom hearts

fastidious percolator
12-15-2009, 11:33 AM
Square should just forget FF and stick with Kingdom hearts

Well in my opinion Square should make a series of sequels that takes place in the world of FFIX.

But then again, what's more silly, that, or a remake of FFVII? ;-*

BalambStudent
12-15-2009, 03:26 PM
Square should just forget FF and stick with Kingdom hearts

Ugh, I hated Kingdom Hearts, I like most of FF, but I think it was the Disney element that turned me off. Don't get me wrong, I liked some of it, but as soon as it skips into Disney, hmmmmm. But who am I to argue no denying it is very popular. As an employee of the company I will say BUY BUY PLAY PLAY it, but as a gamer...ugh.

TM
12-15-2009, 08:19 PM
What exactly is it about the disney aspect that could possibly be a turn off?

I think the Disney aspect is fantastic, seeing Disney and Final Fantasy intwine is both fascinating and is pretty much what made the game so great. A memorable cast of villains and heros.

KH2 sorta failed on really utilising disney characters like KH1 did but KH2 had a ton of it's own characters to make up for it.

Argus Zephyrus
12-15-2009, 09:46 PM
I wouldn't mind a REMASTER.


Remake is a no-no. *revs up chainsaw*


Edit: BTW, Centercore7989, that avatar's face looks just like the shooting gallery man from the Dark World in Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past.

Enkidoh
12-15-2009, 09:57 PM
What exactly is it about the disney aspect that could possibly be a turn off?

I think the Disney aspect is fantastic, seeing Disney and Final Fantasy intwine is both fascinating and is pretty much what made the game so great. A memorable cast of villains and heros.

KH2 sorta failed on really utilising disney characters like KH1 did but KH2 had a ton of it's own characters to make up for it.

I hate Disney for the very reason they turned much loved fictional characters (which were originally created by other authors) into nothing more than brand names.

And Square Enix's partnership with them was just a cynical money-grabbing scheme to suck as much gil out of FF and Disney fans as possible. Not to mention it's not even part of the FF canon.

As for my opinions of a next-gen remake of FFVII, (why does it always have to be on the PS3? - There are other consoles besides Sony's overpriced hype machine), my attitude towards the idea hasn't changed, but to clarify: Square Enix should leave the game alone and concentrate on new games rather than rehashes of old ones.

But the brain-dead fanbase keeps bitching and moaning for one, so it's likely SE will probably remake it eventually anyway, much to my annoyance.

But that is, as they say, entirely my own opinion.

Tanis
12-15-2009, 10:03 PM
I kind of hope FF7 is remade and it SUCKS.

I mean, there's game breaking glitches/bugs/crashes.

It'd be GREAT.

fastidious percolator
12-15-2009, 10:07 PM
Remake is a no-no. *revs up chainsaw*

...best reply so far. n_n

topopoz
12-15-2009, 10:08 PM
I wouldn't mind a REMASTER.

Remake is a no-no. *revs up chainsaw*


Hi 5!, Chainsaw FTW!


I hate Disney for the very reason they turned much loved fictional characters (which were originally created by other authors) into nothing more than brand names.

And Square Enix's partnership with them was just a cynical money-grabbing scheme to suck as much gil out of FF and Disney fans as possible. Not to mention it's not even part of the FF canon.

As for my opinions of a next-gen remake of FFVII, (why does it always have to be on the PS3? - There are other consoles besides Sony's overpriced hype machine), my attitude towards the idea hasn't changed, but to clarify: Square Enix should leave the game alone and concentrate on new games rather than rehashes of old ones.

But the brain-dead fanbase keeps bitching and moaning for one, so it's likely SE will probably remake it eventually anyway, much to my annoyance.

But that is, as they say, entirely my own opinion.

Completely agree in every aspect, KH kills disney & SQ-EX should do more new titles, enough of FF.

Argus Zephyrus
12-15-2009, 10:54 PM
Lots of money is their primary objective, people, what do you expect? =\

I just hope the remake/remaster/port/whatever comes out well, at the very least.

Y'all are the only ones who care for the imaginary characters these companies have brought to the world to appease us all. To them, they are insignificant little icons that they market, just flimsy, stupid little pieces of paper that people pay money for. Meh.

TM
12-15-2009, 11:05 PM
I hate Disney for the very reason they turned much loved fictional characters (which were originally created by other authors) into nothing more than brand names.

And Square Enix's partnership with them was just a cynical money-grabbing scheme to suck as much gil out of FF and Disney fans as possible. Not to mention it's not even part of the FF canon.


The game's awesome, so I really don't care about that, who gives a damn if it isn't part of the FF canon? It's still awesome.

And Business' exist to make money, Square and Disney haven't done anything wrong, they made an awesome game together, and for that they deserve to make money off of it.

Seru_Kai
12-15-2009, 11:19 PM
And Square Enix's partnership with them was just a cynical money-grabbing scheme to suck as much gil out of FF and Disney fans as possible. Not to mention it's not even part of the FF canon.

As for my opinions of a next-gen remake of FFVII, (why does it always have to be on the PS3? - There are other consoles besides Sony's overpriced hype machine), my attitude towards the idea hasn't changed, but to clarify: Square Enix should leave the game alone and concentrate on new games rather than rehashes of old ones.




Sometimes game companies make games to just...make games. Yes, it IS a cash cow for them, but that's most likely not the only reason they made the KH series. I would hope not anyway.

And is it such a bad thing that KH wasn't out of the 'FF cannon'? Personally I liked that they mixed in the FF Universe with Disney, especially the bosses of the game, and the sidekicks that join you in each world.To me it was innovative.

FF has been on the Playstation alone (until recently) since VII. I would certainly like for it to be remade (if it's remade) on the PS3. Other platforms are welcome to it too imo, but if the PS3 is excluded, that would make a lot of fan(boys) pissed off.

I've said this earlier, I wouldn't mind if it was remade, but I'm not really holding out for it either. I agree with you that they could put their energy to better use creating an entirely new game.

Gentleman Ghost
12-16-2009, 04:07 PM

TM
12-16-2009, 10:56 PM
no

supdup
12-16-2009, 11:25 PM
true a re-master would be good. That way it feels a lot more like a modern day FF game (like X-XII) instead of a game for the GBA. Thats what VII has always felt to me. Not that thats a bad thing, but you know. Also replacing the O button with the X button. That always confused the heck out of me.

Seru_Kai
12-16-2009, 11:53 PM
Also replacing the O button with the X button. That always confused the heck out of me.

You know you can change that right? I really hope you knew this ;)

Darth Revan
12-17-2009, 12:46 AM
I hate Disney for the very reason they turned much loved fictional characters (which were originally created by other authors) into nothing more than brand names.

And Square Enix's partnership with them was just a cynical money-grabbing scheme to suck as much gil out of FF and Disney fans as possible. Not to mention it's not even part of the FF canon.

As for my opinions of a next-gen remake of FFVII, (why does it always have to be on the PS3? - There are other consoles besides Sony's overpriced hype machine), my attitude towards the idea hasn't changed, but to clarify: Square Enix should leave the game alone and concentrate on new games rather than rehashes of old ones.

But the brain-dead fanbase keeps bitching and moaning for one, so it's likely SE will probably remake it eventually anyway, much to my annoyance.

But that is, as they say, entirely my own opinion.

I didn't want to get back into this... :sigh: However, here's my PoV of this...

I agree with all that Enkidoh has stated above, as I've discussed this numerous times with Enkidoh before. The Remakes of FF games started after Sakaguchi Hironobu, the father of Final Fantasy left SE as he had no intention for remakes/re-masters/etc. Now that he's gone, SE has gone and remade etc etc etc the earlier FF's. All the talk of a remake for FFVII seemingly sprang back to the fore due to the PS3 Technical demo, which was of the opening sequence of FFVII.

My own feelings of a remake/re-master... No. Leave FFVII as it is. The majority of people who are screaming for a remake are either newer players to the FF series, who were introduced to the the series via the PlayStation 2 Generation of FF's (FFX, FFX-2, FFXII. I don't include FFXIO in that listing as it's a MMORPG and is on multiple platforms), and don't like the graphics of the original PlayStation FFVII.

All the talk about wanting FFVII with better graphics, voices etc... Why? It's a classic and should be left as it is. Just my own opinion of the whole 'FFVII Remake/etc) thing.





Counting down...

supdup
12-18-2009, 12:43 AM
You know you can change that right? I really hope you knew this ;)

...no

Seru_Kai
12-18-2009, 07:22 AM
...no

It's under the Customize menu, you can change the controls to whatever you want!

Consider this your Christmas gift ;)

The Terminator
12-18-2009, 09:39 AM
Well, since this topic has managed to surface again I guess I'll add in until this gets closed or whatever. I've already mentioned a bit about the remake in the "When do you think final fantasy will end" topic and have already stated I was strongly against a remake of VII and went as far as to say I was strongly against an VIII remake as well, not that I hated them I liked both of them a lot. When I looked over it though I did leave a few things out that I did want to mention, why is there so much hype over wanting to get it remade... especially for PS3? PS3 is the poorest in console sales on the market currently despite having a lot of capability and having constant price cuts still doesn't help it much, so logically the last place SE would want to remake and market one of their most successful games would be to the poorest selling console on the market with 27 million units sold as of Sept 2009. Compared to it's predecessors the PS2 sold 138 million units as of Sept 2009 and PS1 sold 102 million units as of 2006 the same year it was also discontinued. So for arguments sake SE probably wouldn't release a VII remake on PS3 alone. Also, those who do want a VII remake on PS3 ever take into consideration how much time it would take to do a full out remake with voice overs, better graphics and the full deal? I would estimate at least 4 years maybe even longer, which even if SE started today PS3 and 360 would probably be gone by the time it was finished.

Anyways, that being said, VII was a milestone in the RPG genre... that's true. Goldeneye also was a milestone in the first person shooter genre being one of the first to put gamers into a full 3D first person shooter environment, but there's no huge demand over trying to remake it because it's too much of a legal headache to get it remade. Rare being sold off to Microshit in 2002, the game was licensed by Nintendo and the James Bond video game rights are owned by Activision. Besides Microsoft and Nintendo went into a bit of a dispute when Microsoft wanted to port Goldeneye to the xbox live arcade and decided to cancel it and destroyed the hype there. Maybe VII needs to suffer a similar fate as Goldeneye in order to shut all the hype up about remaking it and leave it as it is. Honestly, I love VII & VIII... but as I've said before no remake. That is my opinion.

CC
12-18-2009, 11:25 PM
Well, since this topic has managed to surface again I guess I'll add in until this gets closed or whatever.

I've PM'd two mods now about it, so hopefully it will be soon.

supdup
12-19-2009, 09:50 AM
I don't think they will until it looks like a flame war is about to erupt (a.k.a someone disagreeing with another persons opinion)

Gentleman Ghost
12-19-2009, 12:48 PM
no

yes

CC
12-20-2009, 08:40 AM
Well, so long as this remains a civilized and decent discussion like I wanted it to be, I'll hold off on messaging any more mods until or unless they choose to close this themselves.

Neo Xzhan
12-20-2009, 11:58 AM
I don't know how I managed to miss this the first time.

Stop speculating. It was even re-released on PSN. It's rathar apparant that all of the focus is going out to FFXIII and FFXIV right now.

Oh btw, that tech demo of FF7 for the PS3 is what, 3-4 years old now? if they really were going to do a remake, don't you think we've atleast had some info now?

No?

Awww that sucks.