jakob
10-25-2009, 06:22 AM
I know a few pretty good VGM tracks with non-standard time signatures (or multiple time signature changes) and was wondering if anyone else had some they really liked. When I say non-standard, I mean something other than 4/4, 3/4, 2/4, or 6/8, although I don't really hear a whole lot in 6/8 to be honest.

These were the first few I thought of:

1.Boss Battle from Shining the Holy Ark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg09OBsgs7U) (Sega Saturn, Motoi Sakuraba)Get the whole set HERE (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1101460&postcount=1) from Jessie's Thread, from the Saturn Music section...

-(beginning goes 3 bars 7/8, 1 bar 9/8, 3 bars 7/8, 1 bar 8/8(or 4/4), 5 bars 10/8, 1 bar 12/8, then 20 in 10/8 where it loops back--7/8s grouped 3+2, 9/8s grouped 3+2+2, 10/8s grouped 3+3+2+2)



2. Rodi Reveals the Evil Spirits (same game) 10/8 (3+3+2+2)mostly



3.East Shrine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ08RZmNkqg) (same game) 5/8 (3+2)mostly



4.Tower of Zot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3LOtT5OZw) from Final Fantasy IV (beginning is 2 bars 3/4, 1 bar 4/4, one bar 3/4, then a section in 4/4, then like before) (Uematsu)



5.Don't be Afraid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyxDEK9sjKg)from Final Fantasy VIII -10/8 (3+3+2+2 with some 5/4 thrown in)



6. Hurry, Faster! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdBW02jDpqk) from Final Fantasy VII-6/8 grouped 3+3 then 2+2+2, although I suppose you could mark it in 3/4 but then with an alternating 3/4-4/4 section going back to the 33222 then to 7/8 grouped 2+2+3, then it loops.



7. Track 30 from Gungriffon Eurasian Conflict (Saturn, Motoaki Takenouchi) 4/4, with a 7/8 section. Actually, this seems to have maybe some 5 1/2 / 8 (11/16) and maybe some 17/16 going on...my brain hurts, and it's going too fast for me to hear really well. You can get the whole soundtrack here (http://ssf.hcs64.com/g/Gungriffon%20-%20The%20Eurasian%20Conflict%20(1996)(Game%20Arts) %5bStreams%5d.zip) and listen ( couldn't find a YouTube link for this), maybe i'm wrong on this one.



I'm hoping to dig out some really interesting music here!!

arthurgolden
10-25-2009, 11:06 AM
Here are some I've found or have seen mentioned before.

Lunarians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=362ylBllhNQ) from Final Fantasy IV is in 5/4

Another World of Beasts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFq1mjcdP0) from Final Fantasy VI is in 7/4

Mother Brain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J6-44Kd4GM) from Super Metroid is in 7/4

Desert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QIvJYqn4EQ) from Diablo 2 is in 7/4

Gale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRkqWdE_Nd0) from Chrono Cross is in 9/8

Subterranean Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6zit_JLm0A) from Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is in 7/4 at the beginning and then switches to 6/4, then later 5/4

Also, Cruise Elroy has an article with some examples and sheet music, too. Found here (http://cruiseelroy.net/2008/05/irregular-meter/).

jakob
10-25-2009, 04:55 PM
Hey, that's a really cool article!! Thanks for your input.

arthurgolden
10-27-2009, 06:14 AM
A couple more:

It's Time for Revenge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhiwTSpTZRQ) from Contra III is in 7/4

Mercatlians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKFdKCayeaU) from Landstalker is a measure of 4/4 and then a measure of 7/8

jakob
10-29-2009, 12:56 AM
I just noticed that the main theme of shining force two has a 4/4 7/8 section too when I was listening to it today, so that's funny that you should find landstalker bacuase they are by the same guy! Motoaki takenouchi is way into goofy meter, but I like his stuff alot and his use of it never seems gimmicky.

arthurgolden
10-29-2009, 05:36 AM
I agree. I wondered what happened to him, though. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoaki_Takenouchi) says he hasn't done anything since 1996.

jakob
10-29-2009, 05:48 AM
I was wondering the SAME THING the other day when I got the gungriffon soundtrack, which was what wikipedia said was the last thing he did... I thought it was good, and thought it was weird that he completely went off the radar. Anyone have a story there?

*edit* Actually, I looked again and saw: More recently in 2000, he composed and arranged the song "Shower" by Rina Chinen. I've never heard of Rita chinen, but I guess that at least means he wasn't abducted by VGM-lovin' aliens never to be seen again...

arthurgolden
10-29-2009, 06:12 AM
Ha. That's always a possibility. On a similar note, I was disappointed to find out recently that the Follin Bros. have simply stopped doing VGM after 20+ years in the business because it's not lucrative enough. Noriko Matsueda retired fairly early in her career, too. Hopefully, that hasn't happened to Takenouchi.