What is your all time least favorite summon in an FF game?

yoimbo. he was cool and all. but when i got him (the first time you can get him when your at the calm lands) it costed so much. and then you had to pay him to attack. sheesh

I'm going to have to go with FFIV's chocobo. You may as well save your MP and have Rydia physically attack. Like that book in the land of the summoned monsters said, Chocobo is good for cuteness and nothing else.

Those are both pretty crappy summons, I'd have to say Yojimbo is the worse of the two. I mean at least Chocobo will attack without paying him. That fact makes Yojimbo completely useless.

Chocobo barely hits by any damage. At least if you get Auron's legendary weapon, Yojimbo can hit by 9999 for 10 gp... and thats not much...

For me it was probably Carbunkle FF8...I never used it, it was totally useless to me.

I would say a low level Diablos. It would cause...like...30 damage?? ^_~ Yes, and Yojimbo was too expensive for my tastes :notgood:

diablos' attacks were gravity based. they took away 1/4 of the enemies HP.

No, Diablos took away health percentage in accordance to his level, balancing out somewhere, so he wasn't unstoppable. But that means at the beginninghe would only do about 10% damage to weak enemies...

<Font color=red face="comic sans ms">Tonberry in FF8 was pretty useless. Summons are supposed to attack all enemies! ;) And I didn't really use Carbuncle or Cerberus either. But I never really used summons that much at all anyway, so I'm not too bothered. ;)

*gasps* I always use Cerberus at the beginning of a boss fight!

Carbunkle is kinda useless for actually summoning, but it can learn HP+ 20% and 40% so I'm happy ^_^

My most useless summon is Odin, cuz you pray for him to come when you're fighting something tough like marlboros, and he comes and kills a bite bug... terrible

Tonberry and Jumbo Cactuar from FF8 were pretty useless 2 me. I also never used Curbunkle and Cerberus.

Ooh and Selphie Odin is NOT!! a summon cuz he just appears ar random.

Odin is pretty annoying in FF8 when it comes to dead. Never to kill a strong enemy and then... he kills a bug XD frustrating non?

Anyway, tonberry was pretty pointless, yet cute in it's own way. Ofcourse those ffiv chocobo's were just horribly disappointing.

I will have to say Carbunkle and Chocobo. Both were bad summons. Carbunkle had no use really, anything you fight really don't cast spells. If they do, reflect does not work and you just limit yourself from healing.

Ok here's mine.

- Any of the Chocobo's (apart from FF7, for the stop thing, it works quite frequently fo me) because they're weak.
- Phoenix in FF8, because when ever you want it to come it never does.
- Eden, mainly for leveling it up, becauseit takes so god damn long.

As already said, Carbunkle sucked in FFVIII, also Odin from FFVII. Odin's so cool in some of the other FF games, but really just not very good in FFVII.

Siren , ...
If you put 100 silences in your ST-AT-J and you attack 1time,
you'll have the same effect ... Why look at such an ugly face every time and hurt your finger in the "boost" proces ...

<font face= "lucida calligraphy">I regret getting Yojimbo. You have to pay him. Plus he doesn't even have an overdrive. :notgood:

Tonberry is completely stupid. It hardly does any damage to only one enemy (I thought they're supposed to kill an enmy instantly?), so what's the point of going up against Tonberry King jsut to get a ridiculous GF? if it didn't have the Level UP and Down abilities, along with Familar, it would be completley useless.

Also I'd have to say Cait Sith (oops! Sorry, 'Stray!) from FFVI would have to come in as a pretty crappy summon spell also. He just bounces across the enemy, doing an insignificant amount of damage! Whoo,..hoo. I'd rather smash them with Edgar's Autocrossbow than bother with such a crap spell.

Originally posted by Cyan Garamonde
No, Diablos took away health percentage in accordance to his level, balancing out somewhere, so he wasn't unstoppable. But that means at the beginninghe would only do about 10% damage to weak enemies...

Yes but this story dont end up. Meaning if Diablos reaches lvl100 hed b the strongest of all summons cuz if he takes a % away from the enemy according 2 his lvl, he'd instantly kill every enemy cuz he'd take away the full 100% life.

Originally posted by Enkidoh
Also I'd have to say Cait Sith (oops! Sorry, 'Stray!) from FFVI

That would almost make sense... except that FF6 with Stray came before FF7 with Cait Sith. Although Stray was a pretty worthless Esper.

Originally posted by Neo Xzhan


Yes but this story dont end up. Meaning if Diablos reaches lvl100 hed b the strongest of all summons cuz if he takes a % away from the enemy according 2 his lvl, he'd instantly kill every enemy cuz he'd take away the full 100% life.
he works by taking � of the enemy's CURRENT HP, so he can never kill an enemy, EVER

Crusader, from FF3/6. It did tons of damage, but unless you had lots of life or Life 3, it's Game Over for you.

Edit: Death to all who say that Yojimbo sucks! Sure, he's pricey to get, but once you get Auron's weapon powered up, he totally kicks ass! I mean, he can dodge anything!

Diablos's damage is 1% per level (supported by the official square strategy guide), but it has some limitations. First, most bosses are immune to his damage. Second, he can never hit over 9999 damage, no matter what. So if he is level 100 and you fight a monster with less than 10000 hp, good for you. Thats the way it is.

I would have to say most of the espers/summons from Final Fantasy 3 (US) or 6 in the series (Japan).
however i really liked how you would equip the espers and learn spells from them in different rates in ff3(6).

Dont want to double post or anything but i just remembered,

The Imp Summon from Final Fantasy 2 US (4-Japan) was weaksauce and so was the Bomb Summon

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Editing saves annoyance.

On topic, the worst summon that i've encounted would have to be Siren from FF8 (mainly because i barely see a use for her at all) Diablos is kewl because sometimes, it's the best weapon you can have against some of the evil guys. (some)

Originally posted by zero one

he works by taking � of the enemy's CURRENT HP, so he can never kill an enemy, EVER

Then it doesnt matter which lvl he is cuz he would always take away that amount of life.

Except that's not right. Read Khyro's post.

Well, the most diablos could do is still only 9,999.
Jumbo Cactuar is Caplable of doing an even 10,000
Yojimbo(which means Body Guard) ,It doesn't matter how much you pay him, But, If you give him a ridiculous amount of money when his Overdrive is full, he does Zanmato.


Diablos' level is in direct coordination with attack percentage
(Lvl 100 = 100% damage);)

For me i never liked that summon in FF8, i cant remember its name, but it has 2 feathers for ears and water splashes around her, it casts silence. I also didnt like carbuncle, i only used it vs those 2 idiots biggs and wedge cuz they make funny comments. Hmm.. yes tonberry sucked for damage and only 1 hit. Being more specific that Excalipoor only took off 1hp to each enemy, but that sword looked cool. Also i found titan in ff7 to be weak when first aquired. About cerebus, i also barely ever used him, this is because magic is so rarely used in ff8, especially if you have it junctioned. I cant remember now exactly, but i seem to remember barely ever using ff8 magic except at the end of the game

Siren.

Thats the one, Siren.. me and my mate hated that one :P

Has to be Carbuncle. Yus, it's kawaii but it doesn't do anything to actually help your guys. Heh, it even makes the battle worse for your guys.

Now I never use it cos it just annoys me soooo much :mad:

Nothing is completely worthless,

FFVIII

Siren-,sure it's weak, it puts them on silence,it may not be much, but you deal damage and silence,plus it's the first non-elemental.

Carbuncle- Reflect...on evertone....all at once and quickly.....so you don't ue it all the time, that dosen't mean there aren't time where it's usefull.

Cereberus- is useful if you use magic,and if you do use magic, it's a win-win situation.

Tonberry- I can't say much about him, his strength isn't his attack, it's everything else.

Eden, because of the time. It did a lot of damage, but it was a little boring. =\

No way Eden is excellent and vcery useful but your right it does make life easy. I have to say Carbuncle in FF8 I find useless as I never use reflect cos I hate it.

Yes Eden can good, but takes so god damn long to level up.




That would almost make sense... except that FF6 with Stray came before FF7 with Cait Sith. Although Stray was a pretty worthless Esper.

Umm...I may have got the the wrong end of the stick, but Cait Sith is in FF6, as a random enemy. But I could be wrong?

the worst summom has to be remora from FF5. I mean what the heck does it do.

Odin, if it can�t hurt bosses screw it, it�s a useless summon to me.

If Odin could hurt bosses then the game would suck. I actually liked Odin and on the end on disk 3 when you get (dunno his name anymore but when odin gets beaten by seifer). He apears quite often and kills all enemys.

My vote will have to be for Carbunkle in Final Fantasy VIII. Sure, I guess that Reflect has it's uses, but I like to heal my characters with Cure and Cure 2 and whatever, and having these spells reflected really annoys me.

I didn't use the Espers in Final Fantasy VI for their summoning powers, I used them for the learning of spells and that's it. The character's special skill tended to be better.

Originally posted by Neo Xzhan
If Odin could hurt bosses then the game would suck. I actually liked Odin and on the end on disk 3 when you get (dunno his name anymore but when odin gets beaten by seifer). He apears quite often and kills all enemys.

That would be Gilgamesh, Odin could attack and deal damage on FFT(he didn't instantly kill), FFVII if he couldn't instantly kill all enemies,he dealt non-elemental damage instead ,and on FFIX, he could deal wind damage with an ability on,I don't know why they made it wind though....on FFVIII, he won't even appear on boss battles.

No you misunderstand guys, I meant to say is, I want Odin to do SOME damage to the bosses rather than instant kill them.

Yea something like that Kenshin. :)

I rather liked Odin (and later on Gilgamesh) becouse he just apears at random. No party members get hurt (or eve worse killed) and there is no wait for the GF to apear so its doesnst take damage. Some damge to bosses would be rather convienent though.

I would have to say my least favorite would be siren and carbunkle from FFVIII i just found them not that useful

Also the chocobo summon in FFVII (i think it was called chocomog) wasn't that strong but on the other hand it was SO FUN TO WATCH! :D
Hey i was wondering if this happened to anyone else before i was using the chocobo summon in FFVII and all of a sudden it turned into a summon called fat chocobo and it was a huge fat chocobo and it fell from the sky and landed on all the enemies and killed them. I have tried to make it do that many times since but i cant manage to get it, it was wierd anyway tell me if this has ever happened to you :eye:

It isn't a glich or anything, it it's supposed to happen by random or on 10% cance or something around there....it deals more damage, I think that's it, though.

Yeah, that's happened to me. It's neat to see the fat chocobo. I think that's one of those things that only happens with normal enemies, never bosses. But you know, you may be underestimating Choco/Mog. It's actually kind of cool. It can stop some bosses cold, such as the Lost Number and the Materia Keeper.

Well actually alot of GF's in FFVIII are called useless becouse in battle they dont seem to have alot of use (like Carbunkle giving reflect and even reflects healing spells). Or Siren who doesnt alot of damage (though non elemental and silinces all), the GF's main functions are to enhance your characters. I always keep Carbunkle linked, not to summon him but for the abilities he supplies me with.

Oh, I agree, it's a lot like the Espers in FFVI. I don't usually summon most of the GFs, but I love their abilities. And some of them, I do summon, like Quetzacotl and Shiva early in the game. Shiva against Ifrit and Quetzacotl to bust up and even beat the XATM092.

How can you guys diss Eden when he does like 30,000 HP's of damage?!, and has the devour ability?! Most of the summons and GF's had at least one good thing about them. But I almost never used magic in FF8, so Cerberous would have been my worst one.

I'm not dissing Eden in battle but more out of battle, how many times have you taken the time to get he/she to Lvl 100?
So far i've only done it once, it just takes so god damn long to Lvl up.

I just think they shouyld have put KOtR in FFVIII than Eden.

The quickest way to take Eden to level 100 is to dump all your junctions on all players except Eden, put Quistis on low HP and have her use Degenerator. Even with all your junctions off, you'll still be able to kill most enemies before they can do anything to you and if the kill you off, just reset, or run away if you still have characters alive.

i'd have to say a low-level Ifrit(in FFX). He's weaker than your Fist aeon!!!!! cept, Hellfire, o'course

really? hmm i dont remember him being that weak when i used him for my first time

Yojimbo Sucks...
I never use GFs in FF8..
And the chochobos in all FFs except 7 because it stops(not against bosses so it sucks too)...
that's all...
Well for those who said yujimbo has no overdrive...I think he has a move, the forth one (whatever it's called) when he gets his overdrive full he does that move which slices enimies in half..

And the chochobos in all FFs except 7 because it stops(not against bosses so it sucks too)...
Whoa whoa whoa, as I mentioned before, that's not true. Choco/Mog will sometimes stop both the Lost Number and the Materia Keeper. I think it may work against the first form of Jenova as well, but I'm not sure about that.

Yeah it does sometimes stop JenovaBIRTH on the Cargo ship.

Well, certanly not Shiva. I will have to say Siren. Although, I would agree that Chocobo sucked too.

When you first get Siren its a great summon. It's a non elemental attack which also causes silence on all, even later on in the game its very useble against strong magic users.

I hated the summon chocobo on FF4 and FF7. They were useless as a bump on a log. Cuteness? yes. Effective? hell naw.

Hello? For the last time: chocobo summon in Final Fantasy VII: extremely helpful early in the game.

Originally posted by Agent0042
Hello? For the last time: chocobo summon in Final Fantasy VII: extremely helpful early in the game.

True, it is a non elemental attack which hits all enemys and periodiacally freezes them which give you a big advantage. And it actually look cool too ^_^.

Yojimbo crap, Odin good,

Yojimbo is actually quite good once you have Auron's ultimate weapon fully powered up. It allows him to exeed 9999 damage and paying him above 1000 gil (not much around 1000-1500) he will do Wakishashi which will then do alot of damage and if you campatability is high enough he will attack everyone with Wakisashi. And lets not forget Zanmato which even kills bosses.

[edit]I just played FFX and I got Yojimbo to do Zanmato for 1200 gill every time o_O. It's true it may sound hard to believe but so far every time I payed him 1200 gil he did Zanmato. (This deffintly boosts his compatability and improves his motivation).