Does anyone know if they have completed a Final Fantasy game without getting 9999 HP? I got to Jecht in FFX with Auron at 6000 HP and lowest was I think Kimahri or Tidus at 3000 - 4000 HP but I've never completed it.

I'm also intrigued to know HOW you do it and why.

Oh sure, quite often, in fact, usually the first time I played through. Most of the time it's easy-- FF bosses are generally pushovers. How? Manipulate the game's various systems-- such as FFVIII"s Junction system or FFX's Sphere Grid to your advantage.

Oh sure, quite often, in fact, usually the first time I played through. Most of the time it's easy-- FF bosses are generally pushovers. How? Manipulate the game's various systems-- such as FFVIII"s Junction system or FFX's Sphere Grid to your advantage.

So, for FFX did you complete the Sphere Grid? Because that thing is a pain in the ass. And did you collect all the Celestial Weapons?

Anybody else?

Yeah, eventually, though not to defeat the final boss. As for the Celestial Weapons, collected, yes and powered up all except Kimahri's.

All of them.

kneel before my gaming might~

Agent's gotten Order of Ambrosia, though. So, spit-shine his shoes, too <3

All of them.

I don't think I've ever leveled anyone that high in any RPG. I have a life outside of video games would probably be the reason.

I've only gotten 9999hp if I really tried. And I don't have enough patience, normally.

I think it rather hard Not to unless you're some perfectionist who went after everything in one playthrough.

Yeah, most of my FF victories happen before max stats, weapons, and armor anyways. Particularly VIII for some reason, I felt a little under-level when I beat the game. And II, actually.

Didn't even bother with all the sigils in X.

I'd like to see anyone try to get to 9999 on FFV. Max out AP? Easy. Max out EXP? Insane.

I'm a perfectionist/completionist and I don't think I've ended ANY of the games with 9999 HP, except for X-2. I've played VI through XII, minus XI, and I've done everything in the game there is to do and still don't have 9999 HP.

In VII I probably do with a character who was wearing a bunch of HP Plus materia. That's about it.

No 9999 on XII? Well, I don't think it's actually possible to get hard 9999 on any character, but if you use Bubble...

Yeah I didn't use a Bubble Belt.

Like HP Plus I wouldn't consider that a proper 9999 based on your level. And I was in the 70s when I beat it after making Order of Ambrosia.

Quite a few times, In FFV I beat the last boss with about 5000 hp each I think, same for FF4

FF8 on the other hand, I had 9999 hp before Disc 3, god bless you card game - item refine - mag refine.

I got max health in Dissidia. :P

But I beat 4 with Rosa at like, 2000 HP. Everyone else was like 4-5k health.

Eh? What's a Bubble Belt?

Is it in X, X-2 or XII?

I had like 200hp for Kimahri in FFX!

I went around the Sphere grid deleting hp+s, but I couldn't be bothered to refill for him.

Eh? What's a Bubble Belt?

Is it in X, X-2 or XII?

Bubble Belts are an accessory in XII. They put a permenant 'Bubble' status effect on whoever equips one. Bubble doubles your HP. They're pretty much the only way to get 9999 HP in FFXII, as I believe the highest 'normal' amount of HP you can get is somewhere around the 6000 marker (may be wrong on that).

No, that's about right. 6000-something, maybe 7000 at most for the character with the best HP stat.

Bubble Belts are an accessory in XII. They put a permenant 'Bubble' status effect on whoever equips one. Bubble doubles your HP. They're pretty much the only way to get 9999 HP in FFXII, as I believe the highest 'normal' amount of HP you can get is somewhere around the 6000 marker (may be wrong on that).

Cool. Where can you get them from then?

In the Clan Shop in Rabanastre's Muthru Bazaar, once you've attained a sufficient Clan Rank. Though Bubble is also a Magick that can be purchased from the same store. Really, it's usually better just to set a Gambit for Bubble instead, as there are other, more useful accessories.

Though the belts can be useful in fights where you have limited MP. Not that I can think of any where they'd be necessary right now...

It's not just getting 9999HP but does everyone always get the final weapons too?

No, of course not everybody does. Most of the time they aren't anywhere close to necessary to defeating the final boss and often have very complicated requirements to obtain.

in ff2 i beat between 6000 and 4000 hp on the characters.
quite in fact, on all FF games ive beaten, the only one with full hp was ff1 on GBA, with everyone having 999 hp.

The only game where I got half the characters max hp was FFVII and that was because I had a lot of HP plus materia. FFIX is the only one where I got all of the ultimate weapons I believe. It's been awhile since I've played but I may have gotten ultimate weapons for FFVII as well, I can't remember.

Many of VII's Ultimate Weapons aren't that hard to get-- at least a couple of them can be picked up relatively easily in the course of normal gameplay.

It's interesting that not alot of people have gotten to 9999 or Celestial Weapons unless they are perfectionist. But from all the walkthroughs I see they are ALWAYS getting 9999 or exceeding the limit.

How do you exceed the limit anyways?

Break HP Limit? It wasn't really available until Final Fantasy X. You could customize it onto equipment. In X-2 it was a function of a couple of the Garment Girds and in XII it was done via Bubble magic or the accessory Bubble Belt, though it still showed onscreen most of the time as 9999 (unless you target one of your own characters-- I noticed that if you do that, it shows correctly there.)

I always end the game not having 9999hp the first time around because I do it quick so I can find out the story. But the second and third times around I try to complete everything and eventually I would have to end the game with the ultimate hp number. :)

I've just completed FFIV, including all side quests except adamant armour, with no one anywhere near 9999hp. I ended having Cecil and Kain on ~3900 and Rydia was lowest on just under 2000hp.

Never ever bothered to get to 9999HP for a boss. I can always beat them without. I have reached 9999 on FFXII with bubble however (if that counts), but I had already completed game and was just completing extra's.

Does anyone know if they have completed a Final Fantasy game without getting 9999 HP? I got to Jecht in FFX with Auron at 6000 HP and lowest was I think Kimahri or Tidus at 3000 - 4000 HP but I've never completed it.

I'm also intrigued to know HOW you do it and why.

I completd 2 on the snes (IV obviously) with only like 3 or 4k health for each character.... fairly easily even. I think for 3 on the snes (VI) only my main party was even over level 20....

I've completed:

FFIX
FFVII
FFVIII
FFVI
FFV
FFIV
FFXII
FFX

Without 9999 HP.

Holy shit!

My characters never ever had 9999 HP in my playthroughs of all games. o_o

Which means FFI through FFX-2.

I think in FF X I had Tidus with 9999/9999 hp. But I was also trying a solo run at the end of the game.... so I'd maxed the crap outta him.

My characters never ever had 9999 HP in my playthroughs of all games. o_o

Which means FFI through FFX-2.

You are god.

Actually, so far the only FF that's required me to reach 9999 HP was FFII on GBA. That game will royally rape you and ten proceeding generations of you if you're ill-prepared for the last dungeon. It's possible to get by on 5000-6000 HP up until then, but from then on you either level grind until you're uber-gods, or wave your white flag and never see the ending. The ones I've beaten are: FFII, FFIV, FFVI, FFVII, FFIX, FFX, and FFTactics. So far, II was the only majorly tough one to beat. All the others (except maybe X) I was able to make my way through with little difficulty.

Intriguing. I just finished the Origins version for Playstation and I found I didn't need nearly that much HP.

The Origins version may differ slightly, but from what I hear they're primarily the same, including their difficulty. Like I said though, it wasn't really until the last dungeon that I had such a problem, and I found myself grinding like crazy :O By the time I reached the Emperor, all four characters were at 9999 HP and still had trouble. It's a darn good thing the GBA version let's you save anywhere, because I probably exhausted a good ten tries on him before finally besting him.

Now, as for FFI also on GBA, I may wind up having to max out my characters' stats there as well. As 999 is the highest HP, I'm thinking I might have to take it to that extreme to defeat Chaos, who is far superior in difficulty to the Emperor. I'd say FFI is easier, as I had no trouble getting my fellas leveled up properly and through the game. II just has a weird sort of combat system that really takes you by surprise :O

On the other hand, it could have to do with the way I play ;)

Actually, so far the only FF that's required me to reach 9999 HP was FFII on GBA. That game will royally rape you and ten proceeding generations of you if you're ill-prepared for the last dungeon. It's possible to get by on 5000-6000 HP up until then, but from then on you either level grind until you're uber-gods, or wave your white flag and never see the ending. The ones I've beaten are: FFII, FFIV, FFVI, FFVII, FFIX, FFX, and FFTactics. So far, II was the only majorly tough one to beat. All the others (except maybe X) I was able to make my way through with little difficulty.
As far as I know, max hp is unnecessary in any FF game, but if you say it is a good idea for II, then I'll consider it, lol. I need to get around to finishing that one anyway.

It may just be the way I was playing though; I'm not sure. You may have more luck with it than I did. I remember having Maria at roundabout 4560 HP, while Firion, Guy, and Leon had all just gotten above 5500 (I sort of focused on them primarily because Maria couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with her bow) and I made it just fine to the final dungeon, but once there, BAM!! It was like going ten steps forward, twenty steps back. It probably wasn't necessary for me to max out their HP like I did, but it certainly helped me being the newbie I was at the time LOL. I've played through it once more since then and am about the same HP-wise as I was the first time through before my level-grinding, and am being butchered within the first minute of my first battle in the final dungeon :O

I'm remembering now, when I got to the final dungeon in FFI (DoS), I was beefed up from the optional dungeons, and I got raped by those wolves that randomly appear in packs and cast a blizzard spell that hurts your whole team. Then they each take turns casting until it is your characters' turn to take action. I think it was more due to a poor choice of equipment, resulting in unfavorable elemental defense for the situation. I don't remember, lol.

[off-topic] This also reminds me of the first time I made my way through Victory Road in Ruby version and I got somehow decimated by wild Golbats, lol. I forgot what my team was, but I did not have any pokemon weak to poison or flying because I knew I was going to go through caves and thus Golbats, but I was not ill-prepared either. I think it was the Confuse Ray + Air Cutter getting too lucky against me that day. Damn pokemon is too random sometimes. [/off-topic]

I've never really been into Pokemon actually. I sort of was when I was younger, but it just never grabbed my attention, so I never got into it. It's more so the show I can't stand, but the games may not be all that bad; I had some very weird friends who were into it, and annoyed me to no end, so that was sort of a turnoff :O I dunno, maybe I'll give one of the games a try just to see what it's all about one of these days, but I'm not gonna hold out on the TV show; that is totally not my thing. Mind you, I've never even played a Pokemon game, so I would have no idea where to start if I ever did give them a try :O

As for FFI, I think my next step there might be to give those bonus dungeons a go so that I can collect some nice new stuff. I love how they blended the additional dungeons in with the main game itself so that you don't have to wait until you've beaten the game. In my opinion, FFI, II and IV (the GBA version) have had the most amazing bonus stuff I've ever seen in an RPG before!! Too often, bonus material comes as a tacky add-on that doesn't really fit well with the main game. But FFI, II and IV brilliant intertwine their bonus content into the game itself, making it seamlessly flow with the context. The addition of using your long-forgone party members in IV, the journey of your fallen heroes in II, and the elemental dungeons in FFI; all of it was obviously very carefully planned out and fits in so nicely, it's like a little piece of RPG heaven :D

Centercore-- I'm guessing you don't know about the Blood Sword trick as far as the Emperor goes. It's the easy way to beat him-- totally absorbs his health.

Woa, I've never heard of that :O The Emperor battle took me forever to win my first time; I used almost nothing but magic the first time I did it. Sort of like with FFVIII, I kind of found myself hiding behind magic like the Guardian Forces of that game, hoping that I would drain his health faster, but that only prolonged the battle and caused my death several times :O

Since Breath of Fire II was my first round-based RPG, I guess I'm just used to difficult battles and putting a lot of strategy in fights. That game educates you in round-based RPGs. And grinding like a retard, haha.

Interestingly enough, absolutely no final boss gave me serious trouble in any of the FF series' games, usually I have more trouble with some bosses that pop up throughout the storyline (was the same with BoFII, actually, haha). Though Kefka and his 3-parted pillar beforehand is a pretty tough fight if only for the fact it's so goddamn long.

I finished ff X with my characters 2k-5k on first playtrough .. I just overdrived all the aeons and was a little lucky :)

I don't think I've gotten 9999 on any of the ones I've beaten