Because I really miss having one.

<font color="red">Rules:

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<li>In each edition of the Rumble, a list of Final Fantasy VIII things that are related in some way (such as music pieces, FMVs, etc.) is compiled, sometimes by me, sometimes with the help of nominations.
<li>Battles are held one-on-one in a series of round until things get down to one final battle, determining the winner for that edition of the Rumble.
<li>In the first round, ties are broken this way --- whichever entrant was winning before the battle ended continues to the next round. In rounds after that, tie-breakers are based on the percentage of votes than an entrant received in past rounds.
<li>Generally, each round is left open for 72 hours, but it might sometimes be more or less. The rumble is usually updated somewhere between 9 P.M. and 1 A.M. eastern time. Usually it won't go any longer except under special circumstances. If an entrant is winning by a blowout of six votes or more, I will end that battle as soon as I notice it and a new battle will immediately commence. This number may be adjusted based on the overall voting pattern.
<li>Discussion is usually not allowed, however, you are encouraged to post your thoughts with your vote. This helps me to count the vote total without confusion. If you have any questions, please PM (private message) Agent0042.
<li>You are asked to put your vote (only your vote, not any other included discussion) in bold, although this is not required. To bold your vote, put b within < > or [ ] before it and /b within < > or [ ] after it.
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Current Edition - Stay Tuned...


Key:

Boldface = Going on to the Next Round
Italics = Currently Battling
Strikethrough = Eliminated

First Edition - Location Music Themes - The Castle
Second Edition - Bosses - Diablos
Third Edition - Greatest Moments - The Party Discovers Laguna is Alive/President of Esthar
Fourth Edition - Locations - Ultimecia's Castle
Fifth Edition - NPCs - Raine Loire



I want to do either Location Music Themes or Notable Quotes for the first edition. Cast your votes one which you want to see!

I would like to see Location Music Themes first.

I missed having a FFVIII rumble too.

Location Music Themes

Location Music!

EDIT: Shit nevermind my comment, thought I was posting in the general rumble.

Also, does "Location Music" imply music with a location in it's name? Or simply a set tune for a location?

I suppose maybe both might be doable. We'll have to see...

All right, let's get this rolling! Here's what we have:

Balamb Garden
Breezy - Theme of Balamb
Dance with the Balamb-fish - Theme of Dollet
Timber Owls - Theme of the Timber Owls base
Martial Law - Theme of Timber
Galbadia Garden
Under Her Control - Theme of Deling City
Fragments of Memories - Theme of Winhill
Jailed - Theme of the D-District Prison
The Spy - Theme of the Missile Base
Fisherman's Horizon
Ami - Theme of Trabia Garden
The Salt Flats - Theme of the Great Salt Lake
Silence and Motion - Theme of Esthar
Lunatic Pandora
The Castle


Perfect! That's 16. First battle...


Breezy - Theme of Balamb (This light tune plays in certain other locations at time, but it is mainly used most of the time as the theme of the cozy village of Balamb.)

vs.

The Spy - Theme of the Missile Base (This music lends a sense of intrigue as Selphie and co. make their way through Galbadia's Missile Base.)

The Spy... it'll probably lose, but it was unique and Breezy drove me crazy after a little. Plus I also associate The Spy with that little secret base gateway area between the Salt Lake and Esthar ;)

Breezy, but both are great.

Nice rumble.

Both aren't bad, but I'm going to have to go with Breezy.

The Spy. As Zak said it probably will lose but the missile base is one of my favourite parts.

The Spy.

Breezy. Even though it gets quite repetitive, it's just too good a tune to lose in this early stage.

Breezy

Breezy, but both are great.

Breezy

Breezy - 6
The Spy - 3


Next battle is...

Timber Owls - Theme of the Timber Owls base (This quirky theme plays during the time you're on the train used for the Timber Owls's base.)

vs.

The Castle (Theme of Ultimecia Castle. This unusual theme could prove to be a dark horse contender...)

The Castle.

The Castle

No brainer

The Castle

The Castle

The Castle

The Castle

All right then, keeping this quick...

Timber Owls - <font color="red">0</font>
The Castle - 6



No love at all for "Timber Owls." Next battle is...


Fragments of Memories - Theme of Winhill (This theme is kinda cutesy and nostalgic. It's played in certain key moments in the game, including during some flashback sequences and in the workshop at Shumi Village as a permanent theme if you complete all the sidequests there. But it also plays throughout the Laguna flashback in Winhill and I think during Squall's visits to Winhill as well.)

vs.

Silence and Motion - Theme of Esthar (This funky theme is a good fit for a technological city. I have no idea how far it will get, but I personally rather like it.)

Gotta go with Fragments of Memories on this one, Agent.

Silence and Motion

Silence and Motion

Ooh gimme some Silence and Motion.

BTW, Fragments of Memories is ONLY played in Winhill during the Laguna sequence... because, well, it's the past. As Squall "Fisherman's Horizon" always plays there. So... I'd not have included it... oh well.

Silence and Motion

Touch choice. Fragments of Memories.

Silence and Motion.

Fragments of Memories

This is a tough round, but I'm gonna go with Fragments of Memories.

Sorry for the delay, I didn't realize we were running so late...

Fragments of Memories - 4
Silence and Motion - 5


Close call, but Silence and Motion takes it by one vote.

Next up is...


Balamb Garden (You first hear this as Squall is walking with Quistis at the beginning of the game. A lovely sound effect in the FMV adds to its charm. It's used as the main theme of Balamb Garden throughout the game.)

vs.

Ami - Theme of Trabia Garden (This is used as the theme of Trabia Garden and in at least a couple other locations. It's essentially a tender variation on "Balamb Garden" and both, for that matter, are "Eyes on Me" variations.)

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden

They're both great but Balamb Garden is just so classic.

Umm... sorry to jump on this again, ut Ami is not the theme of Trabia Garden, it's only during the orphanage flashback scenes. The only place where it plays whenever you go in and out is the Lunatic Pandora Lab. Trabia Garden's theme is always "Where I Belong". Don't believe me? Youtube it.

I guess I'll vote for Balamb Garden just to get things moving faster... I kind of like Ami better but I wouldn't agree it should be here...

lol. this is a pretty interesting battle, considering Ami actually contains a significant fragment of the Balamb Garden theme within it.

Anyway, Balamb Garden for me.

Ami

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden

All right, if there are anymore location themes that don't actually match the correct location that I have listed, somebody please let me know now.


Balamb Garden - 10
Ami - 1


Next battle is...

Fisherman's Horizon (Just what it says-- the theme of Fisehrman's Horizon. It's a nice, gentle theme that plays within the village. This theme was also adapted for Nobuo Uematsu's Final Fantasy Songbook album.)

vs.

The Salt Flats - Theme of the Great Salt Lake (The theme played within Esthar's Great Salt Lake area. It definitely seems to suit it.)

Fisherman's Horizon

Damn... really tough choice here. I like them both and I'm gonna go with The Salt Flats, it'll probably lose but it's a very overlooked track compared to FH's which has been played with by the remixers a lot, would be cool to see in future rounds, as much as I hate voting against FH.

Fisherman's Horizon

The Salt Flats. Interesting fight though.

Both are great, but I need to chose Fisherman's Horizon for nostalgic purposes. I love that town.

Both are great, but Fisherman's Horizon does a little more for me.

The Salt Flats. Interesting fight though.

Fisherman's Horizon

Fisherman's Horizon - 5
The Salt Flats - 3


So "Fisherman's" wins, but that one was rather closer than I thought it would be. Good to see some appreciation for "The Salt Flats."

Next battle is...

Dance with the Balamb-fish - Theme of Dollet (This lively theme is generally played as you wander about Dollet. I suppose it might be named such because the fish of Dollet do their own little dance with fish of Balamb? :D I believe this theme is also used in outer space.)

vs.

Galbadia Garden (It has sort of an ominous opening and then gains sort of a mysterious air. As far as I know, it's used only in Galbadia Garden.)

Galbadia Garden

Dance with the Balamb Fish. They're amost opposites though. One's Lively and the other is quite Creepy and Dull.

Dance with the Balamb Fish

Dance With the Balamb-Fish. No underdog-voting from me this time.

Dance with the Balamb-Fish

Ooh, it's tough, I like them both for what they are. I guess I'll have to say that if I composed both I'd be more proud of "Dance with the Blamb-Fish".

Dance with the Balamb-fish

Ditto, maybe ill jive through dollet to the beach and piss about wid the metal spider. YEAH�

Dance with the Balamb-Fish

Dance with the Balamb-Fish. Sounds like a dance out of the Viennese Classic era.

[B][Dance with the Balamb Fish.][B]

I realize that the results of this are pretty one-sided, but because of the holiday, I'm going to leave this and all of my other rumbles open for voting until tomorrow evening. No new battles until then.

All right, then, let's end it...

Dance with the Balamb-fish - 9
Galbadia Garden - 1


"Galbadia Garden" only manages one vote. Two battles left in the first round...

Under Her Control - Theme of Deling City (This rather funky sounding theme is the normal walking about music for Deling City.)

vs.

Lunatic Pandora (The theme used within the Lunatic Pandora, obviously. As you might expect of such a weird place, it's a weird theme. Electronic and beep boop and with dark, thubbing background tones.)

Dammit REALLY hard choice. Both are great, simple, and underlooked. Why must one go now... hmm, going with Lunatic Pandora, UHC though really awesome the first time numbs the brain after a while. Lunatic doesn't seem to exhibit such a phenomenon.

Agreed with tough choice...Under Her Control, ftw

Lunatic Pandora

Under Her Control

Under Her Control

Under Her Control

One hell of a tough choice. I think of both equally. However i pick Lunatic Pandora

Under Her Control

Under Her Control. Hard choice, but this one's just classic.

Under Her Control - 6
Lunatic Pandora - 3


Thought it would be a bit closer than that, but "Lunatic Pandora" only manages to pick up 3 votes.


Time for the final battle of the first round!


Martial Law - Theme of Timber (This is the normal walking about music throughout Timber. It has sort of a quirky sound, but I suppose also sorta conveys the feeling of oppression.)

vs.

Jailed - Theme of the D-District Prison (This theme is played while Zell and the others are in their cell in the D-District prison. It's sort of plodding, but certainly conveys the dismal sense of imprisonment.)

Wow, Under Her Control actually won...

Anyway, Martial Law, easily.

Martial Law for me. I think the pseudo-Autoharp synth element and the way the song builds into the organ solo are very interesting. Nothing as cool as that in Jailed. Plus, Jailed plays through a pretty annoying part of the game.

Martial Law

Martial Law

Martial Law

Finally. That's five, that's enough. Next battle and the second round starts in about 2 to 3 hours...

Martial Law - 5
Jailed - <font color="red">0</font>


No love whatsoever for "Jailed." It's knocked out of the rumble and we move on to the second round. Here's what's left for that...


Balamb Garden
Breezy - Theme of Balamb
Dance with the Balamb-fish - Theme of Dollet
Martial Law - Theme of Timber
Under Her Control - Theme of Deling City
Fisherman's Horizon
Silence and Motion - Theme of Esthar
The Castle

Remember, you can check the updated results in the first post of the thread.


The first battle for this round is...


Breezy - Theme of Balamb (Man on Bench: "So peaceful here. Yet there's fighting going on somewhere at this very minute. Seeing you all reminds me of that. I'm not condemning you or anything.")

vs.

Silence and Motion - Theme of Esthar (Irvine: "Geez, how far does this go...?" Man: "We'll be arriving at the Presidential Palace shortly." Zell: "WHOA...!!! How big is this thing!?" Irvine: "Esthar's president must be a real big shot.")



P.S.: The blowout condition is now 4-0.

Breezy

Breezy

Whaaaat? Silence And Motion, easily.

Breezy

Breezy. Its just one of those songs that you have to loke because you hear it a lot.

I'm gonna go with Silence and Motion. Love the Esthar theme song.

Silence and Motion

"Silence and Motion" is my ballot.

Breezy - 4
Silence and Motion - 4


We have a tie!


Okay, let's head into tiebreaker mode...


Breezy - 6/9 - 66%
Silence and Motion - 5/9 - 55%


Breezy through on the tie-breaker. Next battle...


Dance with the Balamb-fish - Theme of Dollet (Dollet Soldier: "Off-limits to everyone except Galbadian military officials! ... ... ... Uhhhh......I'm so bored...Huh!!! O-O-Off-limits...to anyone except...G-G-Ga...Galbadian military... Shoot...I pulled a muscle in my leg." Squall: "Now's our chance! Force your way in!")

vs.

The Castle (Irvine: "I've never seen anything so creepy. You think what's-her-face really lives here?" Rinoa: "We've come this far. She's gotta be here.")

The Castle

The Castle

Very tough battle.

Dance with the Balamb-fish for me

Very tough battle.

Dance with the Balamb-fish for me

Both are good, but easily The Castle.

The Castle

The Castle.

The Castle of course.

Dance with the Balamb-fish

Dance with the Balamb-fish - 3
The Castle - 6


Double the votes for The Castle than for Dance.


Next up is...

Balamb Garden (Squall: "Well, this is it. Balamb Garden is pretty big. It's a good idea to check where you want to go, and select it here.")

vs.

Under Her Control - Theme of Deling City (Squall: "Eliminate the sorceress. That's our order. We're going to head to the capital of Galbadia, Deling City. There, we'll meet up with General Caraway to go over the details for the plan. Let's get going.")

Under Her Control

Balamb Garden

Under Her Control

Under Her Control one of my favorite songs in the entire soundtrack.

Balamb Garden

A tough one, but after re-listening I guess I'll choose
Under Her Control.

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden - 4
Under Her Control - 4


We have a tie! Okay, when we have a tie in later rounds, we go back to the results from the previous round or rounds. So let's check the results from the last round...


Balamb Garden - 10/11
Under Her Control - 6/9


No question, Balamb Garden to the semis.

Martial Law - Theme of Timber (Zone: "There's a VIP from Galbadia coming to Timber." Watts: "Super V-I-P!!!" Zone: "The guy's name is Vinzer Deling! Our arch-enemy, and the President of Galbadia." Watts: "Vinzer Deling is a scoundrel!!! He's a dictator, not a president. Not even popular in Galbadia, sir!")

vs.

Fisherman's Horizon (Mayor Dobe: "We don't want military organizations in FH. You rely on force to solve problems. That is in direct defiance of our principles." Flo: "We believe that any problems can be settled by discussion. If you reach a mutual understanding, there is no need to fight." Squall: (No argument there. Trite, and dull as hell, though.))

Fisherman's Horizon
Such a nice little tune

Martial Law

Fisherman's Horizon
Such a nice little tune

Fisherman's Horizon
Such a nice little tune

Fisherman's Horizon

Martial Law. Thunderbolt ftw.

Martial Law.

Fisherman's Horizon by far.

FH

Fisherman's Horizon by far.

Tough choice. It may be less melodious, but I loved jamming to that electric piano every time I was in Timber. Martial Law for me.

Martial Law - 4
Fisherman's Horizon - 7


Closer than I thought it might be, but "Fisherman's" wins this one. That's the end of the second round! It's semi-finals time. And here's what we have left...


Balamb Garden
Breezy - Theme of Balamb
Fisherman's Horizon
The Castle


And here's the first battle of the semi-finals:



Balamb Garden ("<<About Balamb Garden>> -Balamb Garden Headmaster: Cid Kramer -Balamb Garden Proprietor: Master NORG -Balamb Garden was the first Garden built in accordance with Headmaster Cid's ideals and dreams.")

vs.

Breezy - Theme of Balamb (New Assistant: "Boss, we did it. The Galbadians are gone, and so is their Garden. Thanks for all your help. Now the boss can rest in peace." Mechanic: "YO! I'm still alive, bonehead!" New Assistant: "Boss, is that you!? Oh man! I thought you were dead for sure! ... ... You know...I was wondering... If my boss had croaked, do you think he would've left me the shop?")

Breezy - Theme of Balamb:
It's feels like it has a nicer 'feel'

Balamb Garden, easily.

Balamb Garden

Balamb Garden, since Breezy isn't coming to mind...

Balamb Garden, easily.

Balamb Garden for me.

Balamb Garden by far.

Balamb Garden

Breezy

Mmmm... Such a nice Breeze ;)

Balamb Garden - 7
Breezy - 3


Balamb Garden breezes through, though "Breezy" did pick a bit at the end there.


Now to determine our second finalist...


Fisherman's Horizon (Flo: "Wait! The Galbadians are here because of you, right? They're after you." Squall: (Maybe.) Flo: "You'd better take full responsibility! It's your fault!" Squall: (Fine, we'll take care of them. I don't like the sound of her tone though.) Mayor Dobe: "We mustn't rely on them. They won't be able to do anything without fighting." Squall: (Don't tell me he's going to try to reason with them.))

vs.

The Castle ("The title is...... It is too faint to read. The title of this picture is...... VIVIDARIUM ET INTERVILIGIUM ET VIATOR [In the Garden Sleeps a Messenger]")

The Castle.

Oh man, I like both tunes.

Buuut, I guess The Castle.

Fisherman's Horizon

The Castle

The Castle.

Fisherman's Horizon

Fisherman's Horizon

The Castle

The Castle.

Fisherman's Horizon - 3
The Castle - 6


Our final battle of this edition!

Balamb Garden (Squall: "Next, we have the quad, located in the West Block. There's an event being planned there..." Selphie: "I know! I know! It's the Garden Festival! It's going to be great! I'm planning to be on the committee! You wanna help out, too!?" Squall: "Let's just continue.")

vs.

The Castle (Squall: (This is it...Ultimecia is here.) (Get it over with. Fight her now) / (It's too early to face her))

Balamb Garden

The Castle persistently.

The Castle

Balamb Garden sucka!

The Castle.

The Castle.

Balamb Garden

The Castle

Looks like we had a good battle going here. Seeing as it's the final battle of this edition, let's give it a couple extra days to see if there's any more votes, given the forum outage.

All right, looks like we're not getting any more votes, so...


Balamb Garden - 3
The Castle - 5


And so our winner for Location Music is...


<font color="red">The Castle</font>






Okay, feel free to commiserate on the results of this edition, or suggest an idea for the next edition.

That was fun...

Hrm, I'll suggest Monsters or Bosses for next one. If bosses, include some of the GF bosses as well.
Monsters should be more interesting here than in X...

Okay, I guess we are going with Bosses next. So if anyone wants to nominate some bosses, please start posting them now.

Ifrit
Cerberus (sp?)
Ultima Weapon
Omega Weapon
Seifer (not sure if you want to include one entry per every time you battle him)
Edea
Adel
Ultimecia
Odin (he is technically!)
Tonberry King
Jumbo Cactuar
Fujin & Raijin
NORG

That's all I can think of right now

Probably not every incarnation of Seifer, but maybe the last couple.

X-ATM092
METAL MECH SPIDER (complete with ATM)

I'd just include Seifer as a whole and not have two incarnations of him competing separately, as with Edea, but your call.

Missile Base/FH tank thing (don't know the fancy mech names)
All the Castle bosses (or as many as you can fit I like them all the same)
Bahamut
Elvoret
Mobile Type 8
Iguions
Diablos
Sacred/Minotaur
Griever (should be seperate from Ulti...)
Fake President/Gerogero

Deffinitelly agree with Raijin and Fujin. But then how about Biggs and Wedge? xD

You forgot the mech spider i mentioned above Zak
I loved the rush against time to beat it. whooo adrenaline

I don't think he forgot about it, he was just posting his own nomination list. Though if anyone wants to second posted nominations, feel free. If you second somebody else's nomination, that greatly ups the chance that I'll include it.

Deffinitelly agree with Raijin and Fujin. But then how about Biggs and Wedge? xD
They were never really a boss. Sure they were part of the boss battle, but Elvoret (sp?) was the boss, not them.

They were never really a boss. Sure they were part of the boss battle, but Elvoret (sp?) was the boss, not them.

They were very much a boss. Just because their card isn't level 6 or 7, doesn't make them not one.

The boss theme plays when you fight them both times. I'd say the second time in the prison cell is more of a boss fight, seeing as they take a while and don't have any fight following, and both carry rare items to steal.

And yeah I didn't forget the spider, I just ignored mentioning what was already mentioned. Though I'd gladly second or narrow down my nominations list if I knew how many you plan to use, Agent. I mean, there aren't that many, you can get away with using just about all of them or less to even it! Not my call though I know, but I'm assuming you are limiting since we get to nominate.

i think the seifer battle before adel with de cutting odin in half was great, but bahamut for me hes jus my favorite gf in de game, that mayor on the train was annpoyin too who did he turn into i forget :P

They were very much a boss. Just because their card isn't level 6 or 7, doesn't make them not one.

The boss theme plays when you fight them both times. I'd say the second time in the prison cell is more of a boss fight, seeing as they take a while and don't have any fight following, and both carry rare items to steal.
I wasn't talking about their card level. But I forgot about the second fight with them when they were by themselves. I would consider that a boss fight as well. But not the first fight with them.


i think the seifer battle before adel with de cutting odin in half was great, but bahamut for me hes jus my favorite gf in de game, that mayor on the train was annpoyin too who did he turn into i forget :P

I really find i' annoyin' wen da ppl talk like dis. Ya feel me dawg? YA DIG???

You're wasting your breath, alonelikethewolf has already indicated elsewhere that he regularly talks gibberish.

Must've missed it. I feel sad if he really does talk like that. Not for him, but the one's who listen.

Hey alonelikethewolf, have you ever been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Must've missed it. I feel sad if he really does talk like that. Not for him, but the one's who listen.
In real life, you mean? Yeah, that would just be sad.

i have no idea wat you jus said man :P jibberish talker though i defo am

Defo? You sound like a Communist! Careful with your "gibberish". Some don't take kindly to those without showing off their good communication and vocabulary skills.

i wasnt making fun i just didnt understand, i dont take kindly to the fact that you dont take kindly to those not understanding whats going on, persay :P

I don't take kindly to the fact that you don't take kindly to the ones that do know what's going on that I do take kindly to. I also don't take kindly to those with no sense of humor.

then take kindly to me boy, i do take kindly to the people who take kindly the feelins of other people who take kindly to you, me and every other person on this site :)

I too take kindly to those who do take kindly to the feelings of other people who take kindly to me and take kindly to every other person on this site. But I don't take kindly to those who call me "boy". Not young enough to even look like a boy.

ah i was talkin old western cowboy style, jus take it easy man, im not a bad guy really, im off to bed nice talk hope to be abused tomoro :)

And you will.

nn

Erm, yeah, I have no idea what that was all about, but I'll let it ride, seeing as we're only doing nominations right now.


In any case, I'm planning to start this in about 18-24 hours. So if anyone has anymore nominations, get them in.

They were never really a boss. Sure they were part of the boss battle, but Elvoret (sp?) was the boss, not them.

Now that's plain discrimination. Just because they were weak, doesn't mean they weren't bosses. But... I guess, I get Your point. So maybe lets just leave it at the battle in the prison alone.

Now that's plain discrimination. Just because they were weak, doesn't mean they weren't bosses. But... I guess, I get Your point. So maybe lets just leave it at the battle in the prison alone.
Yes. Because they were a boss then.

All right, whatever. In any case, here's what we have and no more weird arguing like that now that battles are actually starting again, 'K?


Anyways, I basically just went with the full list of nominations with only one addition-- it seems there just aren't really all that many bosses in this game. Here we are...


Ifrit
X-ATM092
Elvoret
Fake President/Gerogero
Iguions
Biggs and Wedge (Desert Prison)
BGH251F2 "Iron Clad"
NORG
Edea (Galbadia Garden)
Abadon
Fujin & Raijin (Final Form)
Mobile Type 8
Seifer (Final Form)
Adel
Sphinxaur/Sphinxara
Tri-Point
Krysta
Trauma
Red Giant
Catoblepas
Tiamat
Gargantua
Ultimecia
Griever
Diablos
Sacred/Minotaur
Cerberus
Tonberry King
Jumbo Cactuar
Bahamut
Ultima Weapon
Omega Weapon



And now, our first battle...


Fake President/Gerogero (Cannon fodder? Once you've blown away the ridiculous Fake President form, Gerogero can be easily eliminated with a Phoenix Down or X-Potion because it's undead. But unlike other FFs, your characters don't have the Item command in battle by default, so if you don't have Item, this battle could be more difficult. Gerogero uses a lot of status effects on your characters, though it's weak against fire-based magic. Use this for an easier time. For winning, you receive 20 AP and perhaps a Zombie Powder.)

vs.

Gargantua (One of the many of Ultimecia's servants, which will release a sealed power upon defeat. To make it show up, first you have to fight all three parts of a regular Vysage. Then a giant form called Gargantua appears. It likes to use Berserk and has a powerful Counter Twist that it uses against physical attacks. Its HP is on the low side for late in the game, only around 10 to 15 thousand. For winning, you receive 42 AP and you might receive a Magic Armlet.)

Gargantua

Fake President/Gerogero. I really loved the scenario and I like battles on trains. Also the first time I got The End (but it didn't WORK :mad:)

Gargantua

Gargantua.

gerogero

Fake President/Gerogero:

Fake President/Gerogero

Fake President/Gerogero

Gargantua.

Fake President/Gerogero

Fake President / Gerogero - 5
Gargantua - 5


Well, it looks like we have a tie here. All right-- here's what we're going to do-- next vote that comes in from somebody who hasn't already voted breaks the tie. If nobody else votes within the next... let's give it about 12-18 hours or so, then I flip a coin.

Fake President/Gerogero

All right, thanks! That's it then...


Fake President / Gerogero - 6
Gargantua - 5


A somewhat surprising (to me, anyway) victory for Gerogero.


Next up...

Iguions (This battle is fought using Squall and Irvine. One of them carries the GF Carbuncle, so you want to make sure to Draw that. This two like to use Petrify based attacks, but aren't very heavy on the HP--> only 127-1747. Summon Brothers works well against them. They give up 10 AP for a win, but no item.)

vs.

BGH251F2 "Iron Clad" (This is really something of a comic battle, though it can be a bit challenging, particularly if you chose a short time limit and the clock is ticking. This stupid piece of crap is what they send after Selphie and co. when they're trying to escape from the Missile Base. It has anywhere for 4200-8400 HP and, therefore, depending on how well you've been working on junctions or other stats, could easily be taken out way fast. Being a mechanized menace, it is naturally vulnerable to lightning-based magic and summon Quezacotl. Brothers can also deal heavy damage. It gives up 20 AP for winning, but again, no item. It has a powerful beam cannon attack, but if you cripple it quickly enough, it can't use it. Depending on how you fight it, you may get various bits of amusing dialogue from the soldiers that are manning it as you cripple various parts of it. The Iron Clad returns in Fisherman's Horizon to briefly give Squall and his chosen party a hassle, but it's in really bad shape and turns out to be only cover for Selphie and her returning team, who took shelter in it just as the Missile Base was going kaboom.)

BGH251F2 "Iron Clad"

BGH251F2 "Iron Clad"

I generally hate robot tanks with hard-to-remember names, but I thought it was funny how the twist is you were actually fighting Selphie and co.

Iguions because I liked the Squall & Irvine team.

Iguions. Because I really like the mission you fight them in.

Iguions because you get Carbuncle from them.

Iguions because I liked the Squall & Irvine team.

Iguions

BGH251F2 "Iron Clad". Hurray for Selphie! Plus the Galbadian Army soldiers are so hilarious at times.

Iguions - 5
BGH251F2 "Iron Clad" - 3


Surprising, to me. I thought it might be close, but I expected it to go in the other direction. Okay, next up...


Tonberry King (This mutant Tonberry only shows itself once you've defeated a certain number of Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Its powerful attacks include Junk and "It's sharp!" You can draw Full-life from it. Once you've dealt it enough damage, it reverts to a normal Tonberry form and you gain the GF Tonberry, most useful for the abilities it grants.)

vs.


Omega Weapon (The ultimate baddie, certified as the most powerful monster in the world. Can anything possibly take this on in this edition? Well, here's the first hurdle. This is one tough customer. It uses all sorts of powerful attacks, including Lv. 5 Death, Gravija, Megiddo Flame and the feared Terra Break. All of its statistics are very high. Strategies generally involve everything from making your characters invincible to pounding it with Lionheart and Zell's Duel Limit Break.)

Oh god. To hell with them both, this is like asking which ear I'd rather be shot in.

Tonberry King, seeing as it's got a purpose and all and they hid it well. Plus, some of it's attacks are funny.

Omega Weapon. Because when it comes to bosses, he is the ultimate boss. In any game I've played, he gave the most challenge. When at level 100 at least.

Omega Weapon

Omega Weapon

Tonberry King (GF) provides some of the most useful abilities in the game, so that one for me please.

Tonberry King (GF) provides some of the most useful abilities in the game, so that one for me please.

Oh my gosh. They're both irritating battles. Ill go for Omega Weapon because its fun coming up with strategies and going up against a challenge.

Tonberry King - 4
Omega Weapon - 4


Okay, same as Gen FF, I will allow some time for somebody that hasn't already voted to break the tie. However, since nobody went for that with Gen FF, I am reducing the amount of time and so the closest point from 12 hours from now when I am awake, if nobody else has voted, I will go to a coin toss.

Okay, that breaks the tie. Tonberry King to the second round.


Next battle...


Seifer (Final Form) (Let's just consider the final form. His attacks are stronger than ever, but he's still a sucky opponent if your characters are halfway decent. And if they are, you should probably take the time to draw Aura magic from him. If you have Odin, then at the beginning of the battle, Odin tries Zantetsuken on him, but it fails. Then, at the end of the batte, Gilgamesh appears, saying that Seifer gave him the fourth one.)

vs.

Sacred/Minotaur (One is big and the either is small, but neither should be underestimated. Float magic is helpful in this battle. They have a paired attack called Mad Cow Special that does heavy damage and their normal physical attacks can be dangerous as well. But they're not too rough if either your junctions are good or you're facing them late in the game.)

Sacred/Minotaur

Seifer because I'm a sucker for gunblades :)

Seifer. That anti-Zantetsuken thing was hilarious. Plus, drawing Aura FTW.

Sacred/Minotaur was a frustrating battle and I barely ever used them anyway.

BTW, Agent, is "Seifer" represent all Seifer battles, or are you more than one encounter with him in this seperately?
Not that it would affect my vote now seeing as that part is the highlight of the Seifer battles, just wondering though.

He's is representing all of the battles. He chose his Final Form because he's the strongest at that time.

May as well just represent them all, seeing as people are just going to vote the way they feel anyway.

Sacred/Minotaur as the card was an excellent early addition to the collection, and one which provided a fifth of a guaranteed win almost. That and Seifer was a girl.

Sacred/Minotaur.

Sacred/Minotaur as the card was an excellent early addition to the collection, and one which provided a fifth of a guaranteed win almost. That and Seifer was a girl.

Not to mention that losing Odin was no fun too.

Sacred/Minotaur.

Sacred/Minotaur

Hmm, seems like all the votes are coming in on the same day lately. Maybe I should revert back to only allowing two days. Anyways...


Seifer - 2
Sacred/Minotaur - 6


Seifer only scrapes a couple of early votes. Sacred/Minotaur to the next round, easily.


Next battle:


Adel (She uses a lot of powerful magic, being a sorceress, including Meteor. She has well over 50,000 HP. This battle is also fought with Rinoa junctioned to her, which means you have to be careful to make sure that Rinoa remains alive.)

vs.

Cerberus (He is an optional GF battle [don't miss him!] and extremely fast. You can draw Triple from him and he likes to use it on himself and then cast powerful magic. Keep the speed up and maintain your characters' health and you should be able to take him down fast.)

Adel. Although it's the boss that frustrated me the most in the game the first time, Cerberus was kinda boring and I rarely used him anyway. Plus, I like how Adel's a disc opener.

It's so weird how Disc 4 opens without any scene or dialogue or FMV, you're just standing where you fought the last battle and can just start walking to Adel.

Adel

Adel

That's four, that's enough...


Adel - 4
Cerberus - <font color="red">0</font>


Next up...

Biggs and Wedge (Desert Prison) (I suppose you can consider them as a whole, if you want, but in this battle they're stronger. They have somewhat more powerful magic and attacks and you can draw some good magic for them. They say lot of funny things, such as "What's below lieutenant...?")

vs.

Ultima Weapon (You can win a hundred Ultima Stones from this battle, though it isn't absolutely guaranteed, it's just a high chance. Ultima Weapon also has Ultima magic for drawing. Its most powerful attack is Light Pillar, which it generally likes to use often and hits a single character for 9999.)

Biggs and Wedge

Dare I say I actually enjoyed fighting Ultima Weapon. I liked the puzzle to get to it, plus, score one for Eden.

Ultima Weapon

Ultima Weapon

Biggs and Wedge


Papa^^^^ is that you?

Ultima Weapon

Because they're a much better boss than the other two. Not even sure why Omega lost since he's the best boss in the whole game.

Ultima Weapon. Its great fun spending hours going to the bottom of deep sea deposit.

Ultima Weapon for me please.

Biggs and Wedge - 2
Ultima Weapon - 7


Easy win for Ultima Weapon. Next battle is...

X-ATM092 (Giant mechanical spider. It can never be defeated in the first battle and you have to run from it. After that, it's up to you to fight or flee, but unless you're very skilled, it may catch up to you a couple more times if you flee. If you do flee, you will get a neat FMV of Quistis shooting it down with a big ray gun, unless you do something stupid like hiding in the cafe. If you fight it, it's weight against electrical attacks, so Thundara and Quezacotl are good choices. It keeps repairing itself, so you generally have to wear it down several times before it will be knocked off for good.)

vs.

Diablos (A GF battle summoned via the Magical Lamp. This one isn't too bad if you know what you're doing. He will actually Curaga the party if you draw Demi magic from him and he's also vulnrable to his trademark attack. You can either fight this battle early in the game, or fight it later when your junctions are well maxed and make it really easy. But fighting him early has its rewards-- access to abilities such as Mug and Enc-None.)

Diablos. The spider thing annoyed me. Not to mention in the demo where you can fight it with Rinoa and Leviathan.

Diablos

I loved the battle against Diablos.

Diabolos. The battle with that robot is always such a drag.

Diablos

Fighting him early is realy fun

Diablos because he looked cooler.

Diablos