I. Short historical info: Fist only "lossless" (forummen, are you all 1 percent of mankind which feels by ear the difference between .ogg and .wav?) sound recordings files were available which were unacceptable first of all because of non-convenient transportation in Internet. So .mp3 was developed to decrease high quality .wav in 5 times in a basic indicators - 128kBit\sec, 16bit, stereo.
But now I am massively surrounded by OSTs in unthinkable format of 320Kbit mp3 which loses all for what mp3 was created. It can be accepted that I reconvert all needed tracks to 128kbit .ogg; if I`m sure for many of downloaded files in archive increase my collection; but downloading when I throw off 2/3 of size only because of huge formats (I don`t even remind throwing wrong style tracks) is trauma!
So I don`t even start DLing Street fighter4 for hosting 2 discs is a thing I`m not able to understand. Or you, buyers of CDs, aren`t a source for expanding Galbadia hotel? I`m amazed you don`t send them in best quality .WAVs - they are only bigger in 2 times than 320kbit mp3s :loldata: !
II. It comes clear that many of you are gamers who play games which ripped or separate OSTs you take here. But why not take care of some non-gamers and describe music in the 1 post at least in a few words (best like "electroguitars exist - don`t exist" for I`m not good in understanding genres and have this much stupidity :rolleyes: to see no difference in techno\industrial without electroguitars\electronica\trance\drum`n`bass for example)? This would be more useful in developing forums and our conversation\exchange, for forummen write gratitude with really feeling gratituded, not only for politeness.
III. Maybe it`s better for someone to download all OST at once but it reveals2 BIG problems: we`re enforced to DL all even if we have a review and info about what tracks we`d like and also a problem of uploaders (&all others) to upload archives several times for requests. So why not replace them to GH for our own convenience (even through some tracks there disappear)?

I. Mp3 is the most used audio format now, for most collectors and for people that like to listen to music on an mp3 player.
I agree that 320cbr can be overkill when encoding or ripping cds, that's why i use V0 to get the best quality and to save room.
I also can't afford to rip cds in lossless format because of my slow upload speed and because i don't use it myself.
Most people like to have the entire soundtrack and not just some tracks here and there.

II. 99% of the music i upload is requested, same goes for most other uploaders too. While a description would be nice, most people know what they're downloading anyway and have already heard the music before getting it.

III. I don't like uploading incomplete rips/osts, the problem that causes is that you'll have multiple people asking for individual tracks and will eventually end up with the whole soundtrack uploaded anyway. While others will want the whole soundtrack, so uploading the whole thing is the way to go.
Galbadia Hotel hasn't been updated for a long time, due to there being no more space for uploads. Not sure what the situation is now after the server move, but the forum will get the uploads before GH does anyway.

That's my ranting over with.

I. Short historical info: Fist only "lossless" (forummen, are you all 1 percent of mankind which feels by ear the difference between .ogg and .wav?) sound recordings files were available which were unacceptable first of all because of non-convenient transportation in Internet. So .mp3 was developed to decrease high quality .wav in 5 times in a basic indicators - 128kBit\sec, 16bit, stereo.
But now I am massively surrounded by OSTs in unthinkable format of 320Kbit mp3 which loses all for what mp3 was created. It can be accepted that I reconvert all needed tracks to 128kbit .ogg; if I`m sure for many of downloaded files in archive increase my collection; but downloading when I throw off 2/3 of size only because of huge formats (I don`t even remind throwing wrong style tracks) is trauma!
So I don`t even start DLing Street fighter4 for hosting 2 discs is a thing I`m not able to understand. Or you, buyers of CDs, aren`t a source for expanding Galbadia hotel? I`m amazed you don`t send them in best quality .WAVs - they are only bigger in 2 times than 320kbit mp3s :loldata: !
II. It comes clear that many of you are gamers who play games which ripped or separate OSTs you take here. But why not take care of some non-gamers and describe music in the 1 post at least in a few words (best like "electroguitars exist - don`t exist" for I`m not good in understanding genres and have this much stupidity :rolleyes: to see no difference in techno\industrial without electroguitars\electronica\trance\drum`n`bass for example)? This would be more useful in developing forums and our conversation\exchange, for forummen write gratitude with really feeling gratituded, not only for politeness.
III. Maybe it`s better for someone to download all OST at once but it reveals2 BIG problems: we`re enforced to DL all even if we have a review and info about what tracks we`d like and also a problem of uploaders (&all others) to upload archives several times for requests. So why not replace them to GH for our own convenience (even through some tracks there disappear)?


Im having a real hard time understanding what your tryign to say in 1 and 2. But wi will try my best.

1. 320kbps is far superior in quality than 128kbps. Most people want quality, and you can get like a 1TB external drive for cheap nowadays.

2. Okay seriously i do not understand what your trying to get at here. Either rewrite it better or don't at all.

3. It would be a hassle to upload track by track, and like i said regarding the size of uploads, a 320kbps mp3 or ogg album upload is not gonna kill no one.

But for the most part correct me if i am wrong for any of these issues.

there's no reason if you're encoding in mp3 that it should be ever anything other than V0, as far as I'm concerned.

if you're concerned about small file sizes, you have a lot of options 1) download the lossless, reconvert to your hypercompression 2) convert the already compressed mp3 to your hypercompression, since you seem to care little about quality or 3) just stop being so cheap and buy a 100$ 1tb hard drive that'll last you the next 5 years.

I strongly disagree with point #1 as you're not taking the medium (for which the music is distributed to the human ear) into account. Even on a $400 audio set up, there is a pretty clear difference in sound between the quality of a CD composed of mp3s and the quality of a CD composed of lossless files. Headphones can also make a difference, too.

I. Short historical info:

I don't know where you're from, but in America, we have a saying: "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." It means, "When someone gives you a gift, be grateful; don't try to point out problems with it."

People who upload music are doing everyone else a favor. If you don't like the manner in which they/we do it, then don't download it. Find another source. You could even (*gasp*) go buy your own damn music.

Just goes to show you... there are none so ungrateful as those who receive something for nothing.

Find another source. You could even (*gasp*) go buy your own damn music.
You aren`t my single source. More than half of my collection consists of games I got somewhere else - downloaded music or game, bought game (~50%). This thread is a need also because of you who upload OSTs from only 1st-class and popular games (at least in the forum). It can`t even nearly embrace all world of different games. There`re a lot of 2nd-class and 3d-class games OSTs in my collection which wouldn`t be ever produced as OSTs on disks because of their ordinarity and Western homeland. I looked through your search means and didn`t find some of them so theren`t many game decent OSTs from one-day games or the worst of them. But without Metal combat for example (PC junkyard robot fighting 2007, not something old on a SNES) (so many bad reviews reflect customers from games cause they want to play first of all, but sometimes you can lose music much better than the game is. If you really prefer music more than games than you came to right place like I thought I did, otherwise why create a huge forum dedicated to OST if your downloaded music isn`t a purpose but just a make-weight to gaming?) it wouldn`t be a great collection IMO. So I`ve never used FFshrine only for free services.

Also to OrangeC and Sarah: don`t you understand - I censure large archives which DL slower, not a lack of free PC space (I`ve never had such problems).


people that like listening to music on an mp3 player.

I`ve never had this device but I thought that if Winamp plays mp3 and ogg, the same goes to MP3Players. Not?


1tb hard drive will last you the next 5 years.
I`ll say better - my 80GBs will last me all my life cause I`m not a gamer.
If GH has no space this is out of my hands and won`t talk about it anymore. To OrangeC and Jessie: I don`t put pressure on you, upload albums on forums, but GH is more convenient: in Jessie`s case you can upload every track separately and forget about it cause everyone gets needed part himself or all OST, but archive can be deleted due to its outdate and you`ll be tired of possible reupload requests.
PS. I ask for proper control of OSTs completeness. For example, in GH`s Chrome (I found it out lately and randomly) you don`t have any of 3-6sec rock rhytms which we could listen to with DDF player. If I uploaded your version of this OST, I would have MUCH less regards to the game. Also - doesn`t soneone know some game music like this?
PPS. This isn`t principle but why call music which lies openly in a folder and so can be found and explored by only mouse like a "gameRIP"?
PPPS. Why are you so amazed because of I have tracks from here and here not whole ST? I think each person listening to it has his favourite style and so looks mostly for it. Particularly when games are my only source.

You aren`t my single source. More than half of my collection consists of games I got somewhere else - downloaded music or game, bought game (~50%). This thread is a need also because of you who upload OSTs from only 1st-class and popular games (at least in the forum). It can`t even nearly embrace all world of different games. There`re a lot of 2nd-class and 3d-class games OSTs in my collection which wouldn`t be ever produced as OSTs on disks because of their ordinarity and Western homeland. I looked through your search means and didn`t find some of them so theren`t many game decent OSTs from one-day games or the worst of them. But without Metal combat for example (PC junkyard robot fighting 2007, not something old on a SNES) (so many bad reviews reflect customers from games cause they want to play first of all, but sometimes you can lose music much better than the game is. If you really prefer music more than games than you came to right place like I thought I did, otherwise why create a huge forum dedicated to OST if your downloaded music isn`t a purpose but just a make-weight to gaming?) it wouldn`t be a great collection IMO. So I`ve never used FFshrine only for free services.

Also to OrangeC and Sarah: don`t you understand - I censure large archives which DL slower, not a lack of free PC space (I`ve never had such problems).


I`ve never had this device but I thought that if Winamp plays mp3 and ogg, the same goes to MP3Players. Not?


I`ll say better - my 80GBs will last me all my life cause I`m not a gamer.
If GH has no space this is out of my hands and won`t talk about it anymore. To OrangeC and Jessie: I don`t put pressure on you, upload albums on forums, but GH is more convenient: in Jessie`s case you can upload every track separately and forget about it cause everyone gets needed part himself or all OST, but archive can be deleted due to its outdate and you`ll be tired of possible reupload requests.
PS. I ask for proper control of OSTs completeness. For example, in GH`s Chrome (I found it out lately and randomly) you don`t have any of 3-6sec rock rhytms which we could listen to with DDF player. If I uploaded your version of this OST, I would have MUCH less regards to the game. Also - doesn`t soneone know some game music like this?
PPS. This isn`t principle but why call music which lies openly in a folder and so can be found and explored by only mouse like a "gameRIP"?
PPPS. Why are you so amazed because of I have tracks from here and here not whole ST? I think each person listening to it has his favourite style and so looks mostly for it. Particularly when games are my only source.

But why would uploaders like me and jessie waste time uploading seperate tracks when we can bundle them up in archives, its common sense. Also several tracks are much more prone to getting deleted.

No mp3 player i know of can play ogg. As for single track uploads, you could always ask on the thread with the soundtrack for certain tracks, i wouldn't like to do it that way myself but i would be willing to do it and have done so in the past.

It's true that archives can be deleted and when my server was deleted on me i lost all of my uploads, it wasn't the end of the world though and i just carried on as usual. It's a pain alright, but every uploader here has gone through that at some point and it's just something that happens.

It would be interesting to hear from another uploaders. Can`t you two be alone? I`ll not ask anymore about multitude of tracks (through GH would be a good reserve in a deletion case) but answer - who uploads to GH if forum uploaders dislike it this much? You didn`t also answer the most intricate question:
If you really prefer music more than games than you came to right place like I thought I did, otherwise why create a huge forum dedicated to OST if your downloaded music isn`t a purpose but just a make-weight to gaming?
Game music isn`t ordinary music product, so listening to it with MP3Player, providing it through Net and a ratio between gaming\listening must have some issues. For example: Do you play everything first or get official OSTs before it? Do you pay attention to music while playing, do you even hear it WHILE playing or looking on the screen and hitting buttons is the only thing occupying your mind and music is the last thing you care about (this is my version, when I played them I was hearing music only if game was especially easy and it allowed to play completely relaxed)? Is OST deadly attached to game or you can value them as separate creation for game-like situations? Do OSTs release before game or after a few months of gaming? Are some tracks on CDs included\excluded\modified? Do you listen to all of it on MP3Player (including orchestral, ambient, national, scary "F.E.A.R.like" and so on)? Do you have 2sort games OSTs on forum or you "rip" only 1rate (in the gameplay and design quality) games (even if they have pretty commonplace music which falls out of memory in the second you quit the game or stop CD playing) (commonplace ST is an eternal problem of many 1rate games like F.E.A.R.)? If there`re these commonplace tracks in OST do listen to them or skip? Do you listen to arranged tracks which aren`t music at all but just some indifferent ambient usually playing in time of cutscenes? How do you deal listening adaptive STs which are only a different tracks on a CD, not some ambient organically turning into battle? Do you accept some tracks which could be more shorter if the one part wasn`t cyclical (even PK has this disadvantage)? So - I want to hear not only from you but from others - 1) do you collect complete OSTs (no matter what tracks deserve saving and what don`t) or 2) you keep only tracks of concrete genre, only inusual or only ones which you like by some reason?

If first version accords to opinion of bigger number of forummen then I can stop trying to figure something out in this thread and will no longer ask for single track uploading which helps me to get favourite genre directly. Like I mentioned in previous post I also rip or take music from installed games. But games aren`t an entartainment for me because of I don`t really like to play and I uninstall them without remembering anymore as soon as OST is included to my collection, they are means of getting instrumental - the only music I like and accept - of my taste with pretty high probability. My non-gaming is a reason I can`t request for concrete tracks like Jessie mentioned. If you gamers aren`t going to help me by describing OSTs you listened in the game or somehow else and letting DL only needed part of a ST, I can look for it ripping games, searching for similar sites and so on.
If you collect complete OSTs I can say that 2-3 will be enough cause it`s almost impossible now to find a game with music of only one genre. As for me, I listened to some purely orchestral scores trying find something for me and torture me to death if I can differ them or remember composition of any track (they`re Quake4, Unreal1, Call of duty, all Serious Sam, Jericho, Painkiller - Overdose (but it isn`t related to some techno tracks - I can remember them like in PK Battle out of hell even through I DON`T LIKE them), Obscure1). This is a cheap 3sort for me because of its banality through it`s a "read requests in these game threads" music because of only quality, interest, gameplay, design,etc of A GAME. As you understood from above, the game is the last thing bothering me in making opinion of OST. So if that 1version is right our ways are dispersing greately cause I wanted to find music as it is, no matter what game and what public opinion it is attached to. This is why I like and listen mostly to 2sort game OSTs which developers pay too more attention to music than giant rich companies whom YOU let know: music is just a make-weight to hit-game, so it will be lauded or just won`t be included to game`s bad sides, so we can`t break through with names of famous composers but not with some unordinary solution for in-game music.

First of all... learn to paragraph. Those text strings are almost unreadable.


I. Words.

Yes, however, music should also be nice for the ear. I don't want to listen to bad quality mp3s where I can't enjoy my music. I'd rather take the 320 over the 128kbit, because so I have a clear sound.
Granted, the size is sometimes a bit overkill, and I don't get the Lossless stuff either as the difference between HQ mp3 and lossless is already almost nil. But I can understand people and why they want High Quality over small size.


II. Very Strange Words.

Wut? Are you seriously saying we should give the OSTs to other people, who listen to this, and put next to the tracklist a description for what style/genre the song is? Be happy you get the music you want, and that for free. That's a pretty dumb request as noone will ever use that. <_<


III. Separate Track Blabber.

Wut? Are you seriously saying that we uploaders should not put up the full soundtracks but only separate tracks? What's with people like me who are collecting full soundtracks? We have to DL each and every thing separately. Not only that, additionally, it's a pain in the ass to maintain links like that. If I upload only say 3 CDs' tracks seperately, I already have 60 files on my Upload space, while I would only have 3 if I would upload them bundled. Think of the organization chaos that would start out. That's a horrible suggestion. =/


You aren`t my single source. More than half of my collection consists of games I got somewhere else - downloaded music or game, bought game (~50%).

He didn't say he was your only source. He said "if all you do is gonna be bitching about something we do voluntarily under the use of our time/money/bandwidth, shut up and get your shit somewhere else". Maybe now you understand what he meant.


This thread is a need also because of you who upload OSTs from only 1st-class and popular games (at least in the forum).

lol, wtf? We have so many obscure games here, including Doujin games like the Touhou series, releases from games only existant in several countries including Germany or Japan, and many more stuff. Honestly, I've found actually more very odd game soundtracks here than anywhere else.


It can`t even nearly embrace all world of different games. There`re a lot of 2nd-class and 3d-class games OSTs in my collection which wouldn`t be ever produced as OSTs on disks because of their ordinarity and Western homeland.

Ohhhh... You mean OST releases. Well, that's nothing WE can decide. OST stands for "Official Soundtrack", which means that the company which created this game decides on releasing its music on a CD. That's usually Japanese companies like Nintendo or Capcom, but slowly Western companies start to do it, as well. You cannot demand from us to get you OST which are not existant. All you can get are Gamerips, which is the closest you can go to an OST.


I looked through your search means and didn`t find some of them so theren`t many game decent OSTs from one-day games or the worst of them. But without Metal combat for example (PC junkyard robot fighting 2007, not something old on a SNES) (so many bad reviews reflect customers from games cause they want to play first of all, but sometimes you can lose music much better than the game is. If you really prefer music more than games than you came to right place like I thought I did, otherwise why create a huge forum dedicated to OST if your downloaded music isn`t a purpose but just a make-weight to gaming?) it wouldn`t be a great collection IMO. So I`ve never used FFshrine only for free services.

Then request the people to rip it for you. Just because it has no OST release it doesn't mean we cannot get a gamerip for it. I repeat: An OFFICIAL Soundtrack is nothing WE can create, it's all up to the GAME DESIGNERS. People tend to mis-tag the stuff they upload with "OST" instead of "Gamerip", which we unfortunately cannot cut off.
The rest of this part I don't get.


Also to OrangeC and Sarah: don`t you understand - I censure large archives which DL slower, not a lack of free PC space (I`ve never had such problems).

Your problem, not ours. If you want a single track, ask the person who uploaded it, or generally in the thread it is in, maybe someone will upload it for you (Don't do it via PM, though. That's annoying).



I`ve never had this device but I thought that if Winamp plays mp3 and ogg, the same goes to MP3Players. Not?

Winamp is a far more advanced program than a mere mp3-Player, which is basically a walkman, just instead of cassettes or CDs, you have mp3s. Some support wav or wma, but I've never seen ogg supported.


I`ll say better - my 80GBs will last me all my life cause I`m not a gamer.

But we are.


If GH has no space this is out of my hands and won`t talk about it anymore. To OrangeC and Jessie: I don`t put pressure on you, upload albums on forums, but GH is more convenient: in Jessie`s case you can upload every track separately and forget about it cause everyone gets needed part himself or all OST, but archive can be deleted due to its outdate and you`ll be tired of possible reupload requests.

I would rather upload one single big pack than 20 tracks if someone requests the whole soundtrack. See above about organization and maintenance. Not to mention that upload space-sites normally tend to lovingly delete mp3s.


PS. I ask for proper control of OSTs completeness. For example, in GH`s Chrome (I found it out lately and randomly) you don`t have any of 3-6sec rock rhytms which we could listen to with DDF player. If I uploaded your version of this OST, I would have MUCH less regards to the game. Also - doesn`t soneone know some game music like this?

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PPS. This isn`t principle but why call music which lies openly in a folder and so can be found and explored by only mouse like a "gameRIP"?

Not only, but too. Gamerips are music collections that have been ripped from the game. This means that I go into either the game's files or record it directly from in-game. In the former case some PC games have mp3-files already available, so they are "ripped" easily.


PPPS. Why are you so amazed because of I have tracks from here and here not whole ST? I think each person listening to it has his favourite style and so looks mostly for it. Particularly when games are my only source.

I personally like completing soundtracks. Not only is it more convenient for others if they are looking for one special track and I can upload the whole thing, but also it makes me feel better because I know I have everything and not only a fraction. I also won't delete the few tracks I don't like, because in some cases I've grown to like it, anyway.



It would be interesting to hear from another uploaders. Can`t you two be alone? I`ll not ask anymore about multitude of tracks (through GH would be a good reserve in a deletion case) but answer - who uploads to GH if forum uploaders dislike it this much?

Galbadia Hotel is a whole different case. It's maintained by Sarah, the administrator - and probably other people. We as the forum users have no influcence on GH's content, other than maybe Sarah getting stuff from us. GH =/= FFS. Galbadia Hotel hasn't been updated in a very very long time, therefore the files stored there are not the newest. Also, GH is more meant to appeal to general people, so the music up there is not TOO far out there, while the FFS-Music subsections are people who rip music and people who look for something specific (or Final Fantasy music lols).


Game music isn`t ordinary music product, so listening to it with MP3Player, providing it through Net and a ratio between gaming\listening must have some issues.

What? Why? Why should it have issues if I listen to music I like? Others listen to Techno, Rap or Metal. I enjoy game music. Where's the difference? And me or others providing people who enjoy it... where's the problem here?


For example: Do you play everything first or get official OSTs before it?

Roughly 80% of the game music I have on my HDD is from games I never have played, or only played a very short amount of time. That's mainly for doujin or regional-only releases. It doesn't matter to me if I have played the game or not, the only thing playing a game and then listening to its music does is making you remember where it belongs.


Do you pay attention to music while playing, do you even hear it WHILE playing or looking on the screen and hitting buttons is the only thing occupying your mind and music is the last thing you care about (this is my version, when I played them I was hearing music only if game was especially easy and it allowed to play completely relaxed)?

I do pay attention to music while I play. For me, music is one of the most important part of atmosphere while playing a game, even FAR more than graphics.


Is OST deadly attached to game or you can value them as separate creation for game-like situations?

You mean if the OST belongs to the game? Uhm... of course? I mean, in longer ongoing series like Mario or Castlevania, there are some few classic tunes that get recycled over and over again, but in general music is normally composed for this only creation. It is part of the game creating process, and very BIG part of the game's atmosphere, as said. If I play an alien shooter like Doom, I don't want to hear jazz or Benny Hill (although, thinking of that, Benny Hill would be epic) in the background, I need some harder stuff. While I play Barbie's Ponyfarm (exaggerating here, never played something like that, lol), I don't think having Death Metal or Hardcore Rave would bring me much atmosphere.


Do OSTs release before game or after a few months of gaming?

Depends on what the game designers decide.


Are some tracks on CDs included\excluded\modified?

Depends on what the game designers decide. Many OSTs have some remixes on them, but don't include all music used in the game.


Do you listen to all of it on MP3Player (including orchestral, ambient, national, scary "F.E.A.R.like" and so on)?

If you mean if I listen to game music on my mp3player, then yes, I do. I also listen to it on my PC, and right now as I write these very words ("Phantasy Star Online - The Frenzy Wilds" should you be interested).
And what I listen to depends on my mood. I never put music on my mp3player I don't like, though. But I do have all tracks from the soundtracks on my PC.


Do you have 2sort games OSTs on forum or you "rip" only 1rate (in the gameplay and design quality) games (even if they have pretty commonplace music which falls out of memory in the second you quit the game or stop CD playing) (commonplace ST is an eternal problem of many 1rate games like F.E.A.R.)?

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We rip pretty much all OSTs in existance. And there are many obscure games being ripped as well, both OSTs and gamerips. Of course, mainstream games like Mario or Megaman are easier to find because they are far more common and more people know them.


If there`re these commonplace tracks in OST do listen to them or skip?

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1) do you collect complete OSTs (no matter what tracks deserve saving and what don`t)

Yes. I do have full soundtracks and in my opinion every track of a soundtrack "deserves" to be in possession, even if I don't like them. I'm sure the game developers thought of something when putting this track in the game, and I'm sure other people can enjoy it. So if I upload it, they will be happy if it has this track included.


2) you keep only tracks of concrete genre, only inusual or only ones which you like by some reason?

No. I did that in the past, but I came to realize that if I don't have all the music of a game or the full OST, it just feels uncomplete.


Do you listen to arranged tracks which aren`t music at all but just some indifferent ambient usually playing in time of cutscenes?

Uhm... what? You can call ambient music not "no music at all", just because you don't like it. I LOVE ambient music, especially with this dark tone. I find it pretty dumb to bring personal opinions into this lengthy post.


How do you deal listening adaptive STs which are only a different tracks on a CD, not some ambient organically turning into battle?

You mean like in the newer Zelda or No One Lives Forever games, where the battle music starts as soon as you get close an enemy? Uhm... since those are still different tracks only looping into the other one, there's nothing to say. The game makes the music adaptive, but the music itself isn't.


Do you accept some tracks which could be more shorter if the one part wasn`t cyclical (even PK has this disadvantage)?

Looping is a major part of game music. There are exceptions, such as vocal songs and soundtracks making it different (with an ending on the OST but with a loop in the actual game), but in general there's the rule: 2 loops per song, then fade out.


If first version accords to opinion of bigger number of forummen then I can stop trying to figure something out in this thread and will no longer ask for single track uploading which helps me to get favourite genre directly.

Uhm... if you want to find a special sort of genre, just open a thread. Several people have done that already, I remember people asking for single track and whole soundtrack suggestions for stuff like "Machine/Factory Theme", or "Winter/Ice Theme". One newer thread asks for ambient music. Another one for epic battle music. Do it like them?


Like I mentioned in previous post I also rip or take music from installed games. But games aren`t an entartainment for me because of I don`t really like to play and I uninstall them without remembering anymore as soon as OST is included to my collection, they are means of getting instrumental - the only music I like and accept - of my taste with pretty high probability.

When you don't like games, why do you buy them? O_o


My non-gaming is a reason I can`t request for concrete tracks like Jessie mentioned. If you gamers aren`t going to help me by describing OSTs you listened in game or somehow else and letting DL only needed part of a ST, I can look for it ripping games, searching for similar sites and so on.

Wait wait wait wait... let me get this straight. You want us to upload single tracks with descriptions of the genre, just because YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO RESEARCH?! And that all for FREE? What an egoist you are. I feel dirty by trying to understand you now. Jerk.

I didn't read the rest because I'm pissed off by you now.

No mp3 player i know of can play ogg.
Not totally sure about this, but Cowon's iAudio X5 could play ogg vorbis files natively since 2005. I'm pretty sure there were other plays that could do the same (especially nowadays), but that a huge reason for Cowon's popularity.

Lay off the Apple juice.

Personally, I've started to rip my music collection in aac/mp4 format as a lot of the current "mp3players" support that format now.


It would be interesting to hear from another uploaders. Can`t you two be alone? I`ll not ask anymore about multitude of tracks (through GH would be a good reserve in a deletion case) but answer - who uploads to GH if forum uploaders dislike it this much? You didn`t also answer the most intricate question:
Game music isn`t ordinary music product, so listening to it with MP3Player, providing it through Net and a ratio between gaming\listening must have some issues. For example: Do you play everything first or get official OSTs before it? Do you pay attention to music while playing, do you even hear it WHILE playing or looking on the screen and hitting buttons is the only thing occupying your mind and music is the last thing you care about (this is my version, when I played them I was hearing music only if game was especially easy and it allowed to play completely relaxed)? Is OST deadly attached to game or you can value them as separate creation for game-like situations? Do OSTs release before game or after a few months of gaming? Are some tracks on CDs included\excluded\modified? Do you listen to all of it on MP3Player (including orchestral, ambient, national, scary "F.E.A.R.like" and so on)? Do you have 2sort games OSTs on forum or you "rip" only 1rate (in the gameplay and design quality) games (even if they have pretty commonplace music which falls out of memory in the second you quit the game or stop CD playing) (commonplace ST is an eternal problem of many 1rate games like F.E.A.R.)? If there`re these commonplace tracks in OST do listen to them or skip? Do you listen to arranged tracks which aren`t music at all but just some indifferent ambient usually playing in time of cutscenes? How do you deal listening adaptive STs which are only a different tracks on a CD, not some ambient organically turning into battle? Do you accept some tracks which could be more shorter if the one part wasn`t cyclical (even PK has this disadvantage)? So - I want to hear not only from you but from others - 1) do you collect complete OSTs (no matter what tracks deserve saving and what don`t) or 2) you keep only tracks of concrete genre, only inusual or only ones which you like by some reason?

If first version accords to opinion of bigger number of forummen then I can stop trying to figure something out in this thread and will no longer ask for single track uploading which helps me to get favourite genre directly. Like I mentioned in previous post I also rip or take music from installed games. But games aren`t an entartainment for me because of I don`t really like to play and I uninstall them without remembering anymore as soon as OST is included to my collection, they are means of getting instrumental - the only music I like and accept - of my taste with pretty high probability. My non-gaming is a reason I can`t request for concrete tracks like Jessie mentioned. If you gamers aren`t going to help me by describing OSTs you listened in the game or somehow else and letting DL only needed part of a ST, I can look for it ripping games, searching for similar sites and so on.
If you collect complete OSTs I can say that 2-3 will be enough cause it`s almost impossible now to find a game with music of only one genre. As for me, I listened to some purely orchestral scores trying find something for me and torture me to death if I can differ them or remember composition of any track (they`re Quake4, Unreal1, Call of duty, all Serious Sam, Jericho, Painkiller - Overdose (but it isn`t related to some techno tracks - I can remember them like in PK Battle out of hell even through I DON`T LIKE them), Obscure1). This is a cheap 3sort for me because of its banality through it`s a "read requests in these game threads" music because of only quality, interest, gameplay, design,etc of A GAME. As you understood from above, the game is the last thing bothering me in making opinion of OST. So if that 1version is right our ways are dispersing greately cause I wanted to find music as it is, no matter what game and what public opinion it is attached to. This is why I like and listen mostly to 2sort game OSTs which developers pay too more attention to music than giant rich companies whom YOU let know: music is just a make-weight to hit-game, so it will be lauded or just won`t be included to game`s bad sides, so we can`t break through with names of famous composers but not with some unordinary solution for in-game music.
As someone that's purchased many, many game soundtracks without playing the game first (or at all in most cases), I used to buy and collect complete soundtracks to entire series (versus fighter and RPG soundtracks). For the most part, I opted not to download soundtracks because I actually had a decent home audio system, and like I mentioned in my previous post, mp3 CDs sound like crap when put through a real/dedicated music player. That and the sound quality of an official soundtrack (non-arranged) is usually better than their ripped counterparts. There's also the flexibility of quality control because you can rip the audio files in any or all the audio file formats available.

Anyway, this is about the "ownership" of audio files and the right/privilege of the "owner"/uploader to distribute, or not distribute, the audio files as they see fit. "Beggars can't be choosers" is where I'm trying to go with this, I think.

If you need opinions or information on a soundtrack, then you can try and ask them on this forum. Like I briefly mentioned, I've owned almost every versus fighter soundtrack and several RPG soundtracks, so I could tell you what "genre(s)" a soundtrack contains. Though I won't go as far as to list the instrumentation of each individual track as that would be too time consuming for anyone and you shouldn't expect that of anyone here. If you need to hear a few of the soundtracks yourself, you can try a preview site like RPGFan or even video sites like YouTube.

To Sherlock: If you knew how much time I spent sometimes trying to rip non-standard game files when my common ripping programs didn`t find a thing you wouldn`t call me laizy. I searched for extractors, this format description, asked on a specialised forum. But just a few didn`t surrender after all so I recorded in-game music for it. And also - am I laizy for reading all reviews of all most likely good game genres on a few sites? This can`t expand my collection greately cause reviewers don`t pay any attention to it but I`ve got ~10% of my OSTs this way.


Uhm... what? You can call ambient music not "no music at all", just because you don't like it. I LOVE ambient music, especially with this dark tone.
Maybe I didn`t listen more to ambient but when I listened to Quake1 7-8minutes tracks composed of 3-4sec loops cycling all the length I was completely pissed of this kindergarten art. But I have after all my battle music one really AWESOME IMO ambient "gamerip" from Indiana Jones & Emperor`s tomb.

Uhm... if you want to find a special sort of genre, just open a thread.
There`re already a few of them started by others and stopped after a few posts offering some most known games which I already have.

When you don't like games, why do you buy them?
Because music usually covers the expense.

If you need to hear a few of the soundtracks yourself, you can try a preview site like RPGFan or even video sites like YouTube.
That would be nice if trailers music was at least like in-game. But in most trailers developers lie and insert something not even close to real game ST (for example there was vocal rock playing during one of F.E.A.R. trailers. Imagine what would happen if gamers choose the game according only to trailers info - for example the same FEAR trailer shows some Quake-like style but you know that really it`s a modern campers heaven).

The point here is, the uploaders, like myself, take the time to rip/loop music directly from games, or rip CDs and take the time to upload them for the benefit of others, usually with no real expectation of reward. The hope is that those downloading will at least post a "thank you."

It's ridiculous to think that anyone should go through all the effort of uploading and linking individual tracks, when the overwhelming majority of people want the complete soundtracks. That's why game rips have become so popular: official soundtracks tend to be incomplete (Konami is particularly notorious for this).

It's far easier for you to download a complete archive, and delete the ones you don't want. Why should we be forced to accommodate ingrates like you?

Most people actually do listen to music during their gameplay sessions. For many, music is a fundamental aspect of the experience. Even the stuff I despise (ie. anything remotely akin to j-pop) I won't delete from a collection. It may not make it onto my portable MP3 player, but it'll always stay in the archives. The various Athena vocal songs in the KOF series are complete garbage, in my opinion, but leaving them out means there's a gap in the soundtrack, and to me, that's just annoying. Tastes change, and it's rare that I don't eventually revisit old tracks, just to see if I notice anything I hadn't before.

You may not feel the same way, but hey. You're the one leeching and complaining that we're not doing things to suit your peculiar whims. I don't see you contributing anything to the forum other than a bunch of barely-coherent rants. So kindly piss off. You say you have other sources? Go use them, and never come back. You won't be missed. :P

That would be nice if trailers music was at least like in-game. But in most trailers developers lie and insert something not even close to real game ST (for example there was vocal rock playing during one of F.E.A.R. trailers. Imagine what would happen if gamers choose the game according only to trailers info - for example the same FEAR trailer shows some Quake-like style but you know that really it`s a modern campers heaven).

Actually, several people put up complete soundtracks, or parts of soundtracks, on YouTube. I just found the entire soundtrack to BlazBlu a few minutes ago. Even VM Japan had a few pieces uploaded there and that's a semi-obscure soundtrack.

To Sherlock: If you knew how much time I spent sometimes trying to rip non-standard game files when my common ripping programs didn`t find a thing you wouldn`t call me laizy. I searched for extractors, this format description, asked on a specialised forum.

If you knew how much time I've spent making gamerips from several games including German-only releases, how much time I've spent creating rar-files with soundtracks in them and uploading them, and how much time I've spent maintenaining my request-thread and the others threads I've created, you would know how time-consuming and exhausting it can be for an uploader on this site only uploading requested PACKS, not individual tracks.
I repeat: I have about 120 complete soundtracks (not including the Video Game Metal collection) uploaded on my filespaces. Let's go with an average of 20 tracks per pack (although I think it'd be far more overall). If I would only upload individual tracks, it would not only take overall longer for me to upload full soundtracks because they aren't compressed in an archive file, but it would also make those 120 soundtracks into 2400 files I would have to maintain, re-upload, name, sort, post into the thread, link correctly, and whatnot. 2400 is a fucking HUGE digit, don't you think so?
Imagine if I or anyone else would have to now write out the genre of these 2400 files. That would take insanely long time and insanely much effort, just for like 1-2 people of those thousands of users we have here. Sorry, but we have other things to do in our life except uploading music for you. I would definitely do that for you, if I you would pay me, though. For free... No.

I don't see you contributing anything to the forum
You attitude to OSTs seems to be imcompatible with my "rips": 1)you know the format, 2) I can remember only 2-3 complete and 3) you can have no clue about some of them because you would never get them according to reviews or they weren`t exported.

I don't know if you've realized this, JBTND, but you're moaning and complaining because this board does not work exactly the way you want it to, and NO ONE CARES. There are hundreds of people that use these boards, and you're just one person.

I don't know if you've realized this, JBTND, but you're moaning and complaining because this board does not work exactly the way you want it to, and NO ONE CARES. There are hundreds of people that use these boards, and you're just one person.

....who has only made 12 posts too.

....who has only made 12 posts too.
I think that pithiness of posts shows more than their number. Also, a few were lost during your forum movement to somewhere.
So summing up: while FFS&GH are dedicated to music ONE PERSON can find something only if he knows the games.

I think that pithiness of posts shows more than their number. Also, a few were lost during your forum movement to somewhere.
So summing up: while FFS&GH are dedicated to music ONE PERSON can find something only if he knows the games.


That makes no sense at all, you sound like a broken record.

First of all - about your PM - that line with "I would tag my stuff with genre for money" was more of a joke than anything else. If you REALLY want me to, I can do that for you, I will think of some price. ;o

For your posting:
Yes. FFS and GH is intended for people who want to download music from the games they know. That's basically what it winds down to. If you don't know the game, you won't know the music, anyway. You might find some cool tracks, but it's not the same if you haven't played the game with that music in it. Doing that sometimes makes you like music you didn't like before.

I. Mp3 is the most used audio format now, for most collectors and for people that like to listen to music on an mp3 player.
I agree that 320cbr can be overkill when encoding or ripping cds, that's why i use V0 to get the best quality and to save room.
I also can't afford to rip cds in lossless format because of my slow upload speed and because i don't use it myself.
Most people like to have the entire soundtrack and not just some tracks here and there.

II. 99% of the music i upload is requested, same goes for most other uploaders too. While a description would be nice, most people know what they're downloading anyway and have already heard the music before getting it.

III. I don't like uploading incomplete rips/osts, the problem that causes is that you'll have multiple people asking for individual tracks and will eventually end up with the whole soundtrack uploaded anyway. While others will want the whole soundtrack, so uploading the whole thing is the way to go.
Galbadia Hotel hasn't been updated for a long time, due to there being no more space for uploads. Not sure what the situation is now after the server move, but the forum will get the uploads before GH does anyway.

That's my ranting over with.

Your words are my mouth.
:P

i won't quote Jessie again morrigan but i think the same.


The point here is, the uploaders, like myself, take the time to rip/loop music directly from games, or rip CDs and take the time to upload them for the benefit of others, usually with no real expectation of reward. The hope is that those downloading will at least post a "thank you."

It's ridiculous to think that anyone should go through all the effort of uploading and linking individual tracks, when the overwhelming majority of people want the complete soundtracks. That's why game rips have become so popular: official soundtracks tend to be incomplete (Konami is particularly notorious for this).

It's far easier for you to download a complete archive, and delete the ones you don't want. Why should we be forced to accommodate ingrates like you?

Most people actually do listen to music during their gameplay sessions. For many, music is a fundamental aspect of the experience. Even the stuff I despise (ie. anything remotely akin to j-pop) I won't delete from a collection. It may not make it onto my portable MP3 player, but it'll always stay in the archives. The various Athena vocal songs in the KOF series are complete garbage, in my opinion, but leaving them out means there's a gap in the soundtrack, and to me, that's just annoying. Tastes change, and it's rare that I don't eventually revisit old tracks, just to see if I notice anything I hadn't before.

You may not feel the same way, but hey. You're the one leeching and complaining that we're not doing things to suit your peculiar whims. I don't see you contributing anything to the forum other than a bunch of barely-coherent rants. So kindly piss off. You say you have other sources? Go use them, and never come back. You won't be missed. :P+1, i'm a ripper here & MoriyaMug guessed exactly what is my opinion on you & your thread: A JOKE

not see ye

My main advance is in a line of "quality formats", others don`t have a sense if the first one is dealed with.
You all can read specific descriptions of .ogg but they all take you to this point: 99% of mankind doesn`t hear a difference between .WAV and .OGG, what can be said after it about hearable difference in butrates of .mp3 & .ogg! Also, they say that Vorbis is a more advanced encoder than .mp3
I DO keep my disk space clean, and why do I have to keep bigger files if there`s no hearable difference? Just for some "quality" word? I rely on live senses, not on words.

99% of mankind doesn`t hear a difference between .WAV and .OGG,

99% of all statistics are made up.

The point here is that you're arguing a case that you simply won't win. No one is going to change his/her method of ripping/encoding/uploading to suit your whims. If you want something in a given format, download what you see and make the conversion yourself.

If you spent a tenth of the effort you've expended in this nearly-nonsensical ranting on actually downloading and converting the files you want, you'd be listening to everything already.

Go away, ingrate.

99% of all statistics are made up.

The point here is that you're arguing a case that you simply won't win. No one is going to change his/her method of ripping/encoding/uploading to suit your whims. If you want something in a given format, download what you see and make the conversion yourself.

If you spent a tenth of the effort you've expended in this nearly-nonsensical ranting on actually downloading and converting the files you want, you'd be listening to everything already.

Go away, ingrate.

Your case is also unwinnable. How the hell do you prove that 320cbr mp3 or .wav sounds better then .ogg? Quite interested.
Some uploaders do it in a typical average formats, I can`t say a word against it.
I`m not going to spend time arguing again, I wasn`t going to prolong the thread, just wrote some answer to meaningless posts after Sherlock`s one in the 29th of March.
And about "you`d be listening to everything already". Listening to all styles made me more tolerant to them, but it doesn`t mean that I listen to every track of every game now and I throw nothing away. Also - why must listening to something unloved affect my taste? Unloved is simply forgotten fastly.

Your case is also unwinnable.

Not at all. I'm not arguing about sound quality across various formats. I'm saying that you need to quit whining and just download what's being supplied, and delete what you don't like. Again, no one is going to change their methods for you. So you're just complaining to complain.


And about "you`d be listening to everything already". Listening to all styles made me more tolerant to them, but it doesn`t mean that I listen to every track of every game now and I throw nothing away.

Man, you're thick. I wasn't implying that you'd be listening to entire soundtracks, but the stuff you want.

No one is going to change his/her method of ripping/encoding/uploading to suit your whims. If you want something in a given format, download what you see and make the conversion yourself.