Ngrplz
10-12-2008, 09:56 PM
So last night I rearranged everything in my room just so I could cart my TV and PS2 in there so I can play video games in bed (with the exception of my DS or PSP)

What did I start playing? FFXII of course as I have never finished this (Got about 60 hours into it and gave up at Pharos Subterra).

I am now using a full walkthrough so that I can acquire all the marks and extra stuff etc.

I do like the idea of having a tank, damage dealer (dps), Spellcaster (healer) and ranged damage (dps).

My question is, with the license board...How will I know what accessories, armour, weapons are for each role? And who do you recommend to use for these particular "jobs"?

Neg
10-12-2008, 10:01 PM
If you want all the marks and such, you are likely going for Order of Ambrosia. One requirement is full license boards for everyone, so just get everything for everyone.

Though, I do seem to remember someone here (99% sure it was Doggoneus) who outlined such roles and accompanying equipment. Search for his thread.

Ceidwad
10-12-2008, 10:37 PM
As Neg said, you can basically get all the licenses for everyone and will most likely need to to completely get the best out of FFXII.

As for character roles and licenses, much of it is common sense. Tanks should get defensive licenses such as Last Stand and Shield Block, Damage Dealers should get Adrenaline and Battle Lore, healers and spellcasters Chanelling and Magick Lore, and everyone should (in my opinion) get HP licenses and Swiftness.

wolfmaster913
10-12-2008, 11:28 PM
As for weapons/armor you should look at what the different bonuses are for them and see which ones you need. For example, a spellcaster probably won't need a big bonus for attack, but any bonuses you find for the magic stat would be a big help. Find the armor/weapons you want, and then buy the licenses for that particular item.

Ngrplz
10-13-2008, 06:13 AM
Okay so a tank would need higher speed + attack + def.

Healer would need MP + Staves?

Etc?



Also neg, I can't find that post by Doggoneus that you mentioned ;_;

Neg
10-13-2008, 07:01 AM
Lol, I'm not in bed at all, Jeff and Rob :o :o :o

Turns out he came up with a way to play XII as X? Yeah, strange.

Here it is, anyway: Thread 40645

Zak
10-13-2008, 08:56 AM
I was gonna say just get everything for everyone, every time you buy a spell, or get an item, license it on everyone. It's fun that way, then optimize your characters in order of priority (Tank being first, etc.)

Collecting all the weapons and armor and accessories is a fun task, you should go for the earliest ones, some of which will involve grinding a lot if you're after a rare one so you'll get LP for it by the time you have it. Also as you progress, collecting the loot you need for all recipes as it becomes available makes grinding less boring and in the end you'll have all the LP you'll need.

And if you're using a walkthrough, go for the rare game in each area as you progress!

Slavka
10-13-2008, 09:46 PM
Like people have said before me, it's usually pretty obvious what equipment is right for each 'job' - heavy/light armour and one-handed weapons (so you can equip a shield) for tanks, heavy armour and powerful weapons (though I wouldn't recommend hammers and axes due to the random nature of their attacks) for damage dealers, and mystic armour and staves (or ranged weaponry, to keep them out of the fight) for magic casters and healers.

Character-wise, Basch and Balthier should be damage dealers, Penelo and Ashe should be healers, and Vaan should be a tank. Fran doesn't seem to fit anywhere, since neither her MP, Strength and HP are outstanding. Just fit her wherever you see fit.

Personally, I never did bother with this 'job' stuff - just gave everyone everything. Of course, some things were different per character (eg. Penelo, Ashe, Fran and Vaan learned magic first, while Balthier and Basch focused more on physical attacks), but everyone turned out the same in the end, despite the stat differences.

PerfectLibra
10-13-2008, 09:53 PM
Slavka is on the mark. In the end you'll end up with a 3 man team that can pretty much do anything. I gave Fran the Masamune and Genji gloves for high combo fun (and cause she looks sexy holding a katana, haha) and have her set to blast anything that targets her with top tier magic AND heal! My other characters fulfill the same roles - though sometimes I toss the Masamune / Genji gloves on Basch and berserk him so he becomes an unstoppable monster.

terabyte
10-14-2008, 03:36 AM
I was gonna say just get everything for everyone, every time you buy a spell, or get an item, license it on everyone. It's fun that way, then optimize your characters in order of priority (Tank being first, etc.)

Collecting all the weapons and armor and accessories is a fun task, you should go for the earliest ones, some of which will involve grinding a lot if you're after a rare one so you'll get LP for it by the time you have it. Also as you progress, collecting the loot you need for all recipes as it becomes available makes grinding less boring and in the end you'll have all the LP you'll need.

And if you're using a walkthrough, go for the rare game in each area as you progress!

Be careful about killing rare game to quickly... waiting for serpentariuses to drop from the Nabreus Deadlands because you got over-zealous and killed the Aspidocholen on the Cerobbi Steppe is a pain in the ass. :D

wolfmaster913
10-14-2008, 03:42 AM
Be careful about killing rare game to quickly... waiting for serpentariuses to drop from the Nabreus Deadlands because you got over-zealous and killed the Aspidocholen on the Cerobbi Steppe is a pain in the ass. :D

Don't you get Scarletites from the Aspidochelon? Also, if you kill a rare game before you start collecting the trophies, doesn't he reappear until you collect the trophy?

Ngrplz
10-14-2008, 06:19 AM
I am currently only up to Giza Plains...

I managed to get Rogue Tomato and Thextera though, and have focused on making Vaan my tank and Penelo my Spell Damage Dealer / Off healer.

Zak
10-14-2008, 07:12 AM
Don't you get Scarletites from the Aspidochelon? Also, if you kill a rare game before you start collecting the trophies, doesn't he reappear until you collect the trophy?

1. Yes, you get Scarletite by STEALING from Aspidochelon.
2. No, the 30 (31 if you count Thalassinon) special trophy Rare Game monsters are impossible to encounter before you activate the Phon Coast event with the Hunters, and once you do, you can only kill them once!

But you CAN get Scarletites more easily by fishing. Much more fun AND more reliable than the Emeralditans in the Nabraeus Deadlands. It's 50/50!

EDIT: Oh, I didn't notice he said Serpentarius. But yeah I think he meant Scarletite, since those are dropped by Emeralditans as well. But still, you can only kill trophy-game once. You can keep encountering and stealing and running if you want, just, kill it and it's gone forever. Like I said though, fishing is much faster... but only after you've beaten Gilgamesh and gotten Lu-Shang's Badge can you fish for it.

Serpentarius, on the other hand, you must make. Though, you can steal it from Zodiark... and win once from Montblanc.

wolfmaster913
10-14-2008, 01:45 PM
I didn't realize that the trophy rare games did not appear before you started the trophy hunt. That might explain the trouble I had making some of them appear.

Ngrplz
10-15-2008, 12:45 AM
UPDATE

I am up to Nalbina Dungeons (Level 6-7) and Have Vaan tanking, Fran as ranged dps and healing (bows) and Balthier as Ranged DPS (guns)

Olde
10-15-2008, 12:55 AM
UPDATE

I am up to Nalbina Dungeons (Level 6-7) and Have Vaan tanking, Fran as ranged dps and healing (bows) and Balthier as Ranged DPS (guns)

Dude, you should've tried a no-level up playthrough. y'know, just to see what it's like.

Ngrplz
10-15-2008, 01:04 AM
What do you mean? How do you progress without leveling?

wolfmaster913
10-15-2008, 01:30 AM
What do you mean? How do you progress without leveling?

Look up a 122333 guide for the game. I know that Youtube has an entire video walkthrough for it.

Ngrplz
10-15-2008, 03:01 AM
Hmm read up on....looks crazy. I haven't even finished the game and would rather do that than something suicidal like a no leveling challenge :p

Slavka
10-15-2008, 05:44 PM
I'm about to start a no-weapons run-through. No-levels is just insane: I tried it once and got my ass kicked... multiple times.

wolfmaster913
10-15-2008, 07:54 PM
I'm about to start a no-weapons run-through. No-levels is just insane: I tried it once and got my ass kicked... multiple times.

Hahaha, I did the same thing. I ended up stopping at the Mimic Queen because I just could not beat her. No weapons sounds fun though, I might have to give that a try.

Ngrplz
10-17-2008, 02:01 AM
I am currently up to the save point just before Mimic Queen.

I would be playing it more....but WoW expansion soon, so I'm getting distracted...A LOT :(

terabyte
10-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Hahaha, I did the same thing. I ended up stopping at the Mimic Queen because I just could not beat her. No weapons sounds fun though, I might have to give that a try.

IIRC, the key to a no-leveling game is to run around for about 2 days straight at the beginning of the game collecting ethers and motes. :)

A Little Bit Dramatic
10-22-2008, 12:16 AM
IIRC, the key to a no-leveling game is to run around for about 2 days straight at the beginning of the game collecting ethers and motes. :)

The fleeing is tedious, but the 122333 challenge gets a lot less dull when you get the Firefly (I think that's the name of it anyway, the accessory that prevents you earning EXP?)