Can't find a thread already about this so I thought i'd start one. Got this game this morning and so far, very impressed. Having Darth Vader and his Apprentice from Star Wars and Yoshimitsu from Tekken are big plus points. The gameplay is solid and very fun, easy to pick up but very hard to master. The customisation for the characters is very good and will keep me busy for ages. Probably the best Beat-em up game i've played to date. Highly recommended.

Do you know what a beat-em-up is, you fucking maroon?

Can't find a thread already about this so I thought i'd start one. Got this game this morning and so far, very impressed. Having Darth Vader and his Apprentice from Star Wars and Yoshimitsu from Tekken are big plus points. The gameplay is solid and very fun, easy to pick up but very hard to master. The customisation for the characters is very good and will keep me busy for ages. Probably the best Beat-em up game i've played to date. Highly recommended.
Well as weak as that review was, I would assume that Soul Calibur 4 would be awesome. Also my guess would be that you have never played ANY Soul Calibur game, you named only the promotional characters and Yoshimitsu from Tekken. I'll tell you to play with other charcters: Maxi, Mitsurugi, Yun-Seong, Sung-Mina, Kilik, Sigfried, Nightmare, my God the list goes on!

Do you know what a beat-em-up is, you fucking maroon?Yes Harkus, that is a Fighting game. A beat 'em up would be along the lines of an ARPG.

Examples of beat-em-ups: Streets of Rage, Final Fight, Double Dragon, GodHand.

Example of a moron who thinks an obvious fighting game is a beat-em-up: Harkus.

Do you know what a beat-em-up is, you fucking maroon?

haha, I didn't know that knowing the difference between a beat-em-up and a fighting game makes people UB3R C00L!


Well as weak as that review was, I would assume that Soul Calibur 4 would be awesome. Also my guess would be that you have never played ANY Soul Calibur game, you named only the promotional characters and Yoshimitsu from Tekken. I'll tell you to play with other charcters: Maxi, Mitsurugi, Yun-Seong, Sung-Mina, Kilik, Sigfried, Nightmare, my God the list goes on!

I know it was a weak review, I didn't plan on writing a professional-style review all I wanted to do was write a quick paragraph about my thoughts. You're probably right, I should have mentioned some of the other characters but then again I didn't say anything about Vader, Apprentice and Yoshimitsu except that it was a plus point having them in the game. After playing more of the game since I started this thread i've found that Vader is a mediocre character but I like star wars so I still play as him a fair bit. The Apprentice is very over-powered and is the only character that is difficult to beat in arcade mode. Overall I would say that Sigfried is my favourite character to play as.


Yes Harkus, that is a Fighting game. A beat 'em up would be along the lines of an ARPG.

Thanks for letting me know. I've always thought of games like this as Beat em ups, guess I was wrong.

Do you know what a beat-em-up is, you fucking maroon?

cry more

Honestly, after Soul Calibur, I lost interest in the series. It use to be epic, almost historical. Now it's a joke. The people at Namco have obviously, got desperate because a lot of gamers feel the way I feel. The whole guess character thing is nonsense. The epic feel of the game was ruin the moment they decided to go with that ideal.

They should of did the same thing they did in Tekken and keep a consistent story going with decent endings, not some picture with text.

So giving consumers more bang for their buck is a short coming? That doesn't make anyone not want to play the game, it lures in a new audience. Soul Calibur 2 and 4 are the only ones with guess characters. All of Soul Calibur 3 and Soul Calibur 1's characters are permanent. I honestly don't see what the big deal is you get the joy of playing with some new characters on a fun game engine... how is that bad? I'm not sure how many people actually agree with you.

Honestly, after Soul Calibur, I lost interest in the series. It use to be epic, almost historical. Now it's a joke. The people at Namco have obviously, got desperate because a lot of gamers feel the way I feel. The whole guess character thing is nonsense. The epic feel of the game was ruin the moment they decided to go with that ideal.

They should of did the same thing they did in Tekken and keep a consistent story going with decent endings, not some picture with text.

what's wrong with the guest characters? There are only three in the game. It's not as if they overloaded the game with guest characters and dismissed the characters that have been with the series since the beginning. plus who doesn't want to play as Darth Vader in a fighting game?

Yoda is broken.

So giving consumers more bang for their buck is a short coming?

You call it more bang for the buck, I call it cheap window dressing. A desperate add on to rack up sells.


That doesn't make anyone not want to play the game, it lures in a new audience.

What, the audience that likes Star Wars? That's something special ;)


Soul Calibur 2 and 4 are the only ones with guess characters.

Doesn't matter, the epic feel of the game was lost, the moment they decided to do it. Link? Spawn? please.


All of Soul Calibur 3 and Soul Calibur 1's characters are permanent.

Soul Calibur 1 is the only true sequel in my eyes. After that, the series went downhill for me. This game is just another example of the downward spiral. And Soul 3 sucks.


I honestly don't see what the big deal is you get the joy of playing with some new characters on a fun game engine... how is that bad?

For some people it's not bad at all, but for me, it's been there and done that. Soul 1 was the only game that took any major steps. The ones after that, are just cheap and gimmicky,IMO.



I'm not sure how many people actually agree with you.

I recommend you read around.

You call it more bang for the buck, I call it cheap window dressing. A desperate add on to rack up sells.Soul Calibur 3's sales prove that that is not true. The game doesn't need bonus characters to be successful, all it does is make the game more exciting.




What, the audience that likes Star Wars? That's something special ;)
With the release of Force Unleashed coming soon, the Star Wars fanbase isn't so trivial.



Doesn't matter, the epic feel of the game was lost, the moment they decided to do it. Link? Spawn? please.

Not really.. not at all actually. Many people enjoyed playing as Spawn and link, and Soul Calibur got more fans because of it. And how was this "epicness" lost, SC is still one pf the best fighters out there, the battles are fun and fast paced.

Soul Calibur 1 is the only true sequel in my eyes. After that, the series went downhill for me. This game is just another example of the downward spiral. And Soul 3 sucks.
That's just you being sour about some characters, I assume you didn't want, in a game. Soul Calibur is hardly even a sequel, there is a reason they changed the name from Soul Edge to Soul Calibur.



For some people it's not bad at all, but for me, it's been there and done that. Soul 1 was the only game that took any major steps. The ones after that, are just cheap and gimmicky,IMO.
how are they cheap and gimmicky? And where have you seen a battle engine like Soul Calibur's?




I recommend you read around.If that was the majority's opinion, I don't think I'd have to.

Man, I bought this game, I only played it once. I didn't like it much, but if anybody is up for a match hit me up.

Man, I bought this game, I only played it once. I didn't like it much, but if anybody is up for a match hit me up.

If you've got it on PS3 i'll play you. My PSN is Twinmania

Ok, yeah I forgot I have it for PS3, but at the moment I cant is it cool if I PM you when I get time?

Soul Calibur 3's sales prove that that is not true. The game doesn't need bonus characters to be successful, all it does is make the game more exciting.

Actually, it was the create a character that made Soul Caibur 3 sell. Of course most people realized after buying it that is was a crappy feature.


With the release of Force Unleashed coming soon, the Star Wars fanbase isn't so trivial.

No it's not trivial. The Star Wars fan base is hardcore, which is the reason I call Soul 4 cheap window dressing. The game truly hasn't evolved since Soul Calibur 1. That's why I gave up on it.


Not really.. not at all actually. Many people enjoyed playing as Spawn and link, and Soul Calibur got more fans because of it. And how was this "epicness" lost, SC is still one pf the best fighters out there, the battles are fun and fast paced.
That's just you being sour about some characters, I assume you didn't want, in a game. Soul Calibur is hardly even a sequel, there is a reason they changed the name from Soul Edge to Soul Calibur.

The epicness I'm talking about is the classic, almost historical feel of playing these characters. Now Soul games feel more like playing a cartoon. If I want that, I'll just go play some Guilty Gear XX.



how are they cheap and gimmicky? And where have you seen a battle engine like Soul Calibur's?

Soul Caibur's battle system is fine, but like I said, for me it's been there and done that. Unlike Tekken V, Soul has not evolved in the gameplay. They just add on a bunch of useless modes, and put in guess characters.


If that was the majority's opinion, I don't think I'd have to.

No, your mind is made up and that's fine with me. Like I said, that how I feel about the series now.

All Seeing Eye, can't you come up with actual valid argument.

Saying that it's the Character creation option that sold Soul 3 (and that everyone realised it was crappy afterward...)without anything to back the claim isn't going to convince anyone that you know what you're talking about.


In all actuality, it's achieving the complete opposite result.


But I understand that your mind is made up, so that's fine with me.

Actually, it was the create a character that made Soul Caibur 3 sell. Of course most people realized after buying it that is was a crappy feature. Wait you call SC3 for being gimmicky, but you say that "Character Creation" sold all those copies? The most used gimmick ever is what sold all those copies! Nobody bought SC3 for character creation alone. And anyone who did is a raging moron. People bought SC3 for the same reason people bought SC1, good gampelay, great characters, and awesome stories.




No it's not trivial. The Star Wars fan base is hardcore, which is the reason I call Soul 4 cheap window dressing. The game truly hasn't evolved since Soul Calibur 1. That's why I gave up on it.
I don't believe that for a second. The battles got faster, the physics got more realistic, and the detail got sharper. SC was built on a great engine only minor tweaks and debugs are necessary. Games don't need programmers changing (fucking) everything up.



The epicness I'm talking about is the classic, almost historical feel of playing these characters. Now Soul games feel more like playing a cartoon. If I want that, I'll just go play some Guilty Gear XX.
Please justify this. How does playing a 3d fighting game feel cartoonish? The character models are 3d, the enviroments are 3d, the movement is 3d thanks to 8-way run. Pleas tell me how SC engine is even
remotely like Guilty Gear XX (Which is incredibly overrated)



Soul Caibur's battle system is fine, but like I said, for me it's been there and done that. Unlike Tekken V, Soul has not evolved in the gameplay. They just add on a bunch of useless modes, and put in guess characters.
Umm and Tekken has evolved how? It's the same engine EVERY game. Button mash, and tap behind you to block. Tekken and Soul are also very similar games, haven't you realized that the attacks ob Tekken and Soul are nearly parallel?



No, your mind is made up and that's fine with me. Like I said, that how I feel about the series now.Actually no, I can be persuaded... but your arguments are waaaay to faulty to do so.


All Seeing Eye, can't you come up with actual valid argument.

Saying that it's the Character creation option that sold Soul 3 (and that everyone realised it was crappy afterward...)without anything to back the claim isn't going to convince anyone that you know what you're talking about.


In all actuality, it's achieving the complete opposite result.


But I understand that your mind is made up, so that's fine with me.

Gotta agree with this.

It's an ok game so far. The character creation feels a little simple. I haven't played it all that much, but it seems to be pretty solid so far in terms of gameplay.

I do find the inclusion of SW characters somewhat gimmicky even though I happen to be a fan of both SW and SC, but it's all for the sake of fun. Obviously, they were just tacked on with something vaguely resembling a plot for the fans and advertising similar to Link, Heihachi, and Spawn for SCII. But it's not a game ruiner like say, making half your roster DC superheroes. If one or two Jedi characters ruins the game for you, well, sorry for ya, Eye.



Umm and Tekken has evolved how?

Tekken V alone hasn't made any huge leaps in gameplay. To answer your question, Tekken IV rather, changed up the fighting system drastically, with the introduction of impact walls, destructible objects, a finite arena, as well as the sharper graphics and improved physics you mention as evolving the SC series. But I guess the gameplay changes didn't go over well so V actually took a step back to more familiar territory.

Ok, yeah I forgot I have it for PS3, but at the moment I cant is it cool if I PM you when I get time?

Yeah sure =)


I do find the inclusion of SW characters somewhat gimmicky even though I happen to be a fan of both SW and SC, but it's all for the sake of fun.

Exactly, it's for the sake of fun. The whole point of playing a game is to have fun.

Wait you call SC3 for being gimmicky, but you say that "Character Creation" sold all those copies? The most used gimmick ever is what sold all those copies! Nobody bought SC3 for character creation alone. And anyone who did is a raging moron. People bought SC3 for the same reason people bought SC1, good gampelay, great characters, and awesome stories.

To me all SC3 was, is SC2 with crappy new modes. Great Stories? No. Just no. Soul Edge was an example of the game having great stories.




I don't believe that for a second. The battles got faster, the physics got more realistic, and the detail got sharper. SC was built on a great engine only minor tweaks and debugs are necessary. Games don't need programmers changing (fucking) everything up.

Then don't believe it. To me it's nothing new or special. And yes programmers can evolve the game without (fucking) everything up. They've done it with Tekken, and Capcom's done it with Street Fighter.


Please justify this. How does playing a 3d fighting game feel cartoonish? The character models are 3d, the enviroments are 3d, the movement is 3d thanks to 8-way run. Pleas tell me how SC engine is even
remotely like Guilty Gear XX (Which is incredibly overrated)

Playing a 3D game can't feel cartoonish? I highly disagree. SC's characters have gotten over the top and ridicules in my opinion. The gimmicky guest characters only add to that opinion. That's why I compare it to GGXX. Because like that game, Namco is getting crazy with their new characters, which loses the epic feel started in Soul Edge,


Umm and Tekken has evolved how? It's the same engine EVERY game. Button mash, and tap behind you to block. Tekken and Soul are also very similar games, haven't you realized that the attacks ob Tekken and Soul are nearly parallel?

They're very similar games, but the years have been kinder to Tekken. Namco obviously puts more effort in that series, than Soul Calibur.

Programmer 1: "Hey what are we gonna do about SC, we spend so much time on Tekken?"

Programmer 2: "Just give them the same game as last year. Make them think it's new by throwing in some new modes and more guest characters."

Programmer 1: "Okay, what guess characters?"

Programmer 2: "Ummm, Well... Isn't the new Star Wars game and CG movie coming out soon."

Programmer 1: "Yeah."

Programmer 2: "Then throw in some Star Wars Characters. That will hook em."

Programmer 1: "Excellent. I know just what characters to use. And get this, like SC2, we'll make them exclusive to each version."

Programmer 2: "Great, get on it."

Programmer 1: "I'm in the money! I'm in the Money!"


Actually no, I can be persuaded... but your arguments are waaaay to faulty to do so.

That's because I'm not making an argument, or trying to persuaded you. I'm just say why I personally lost interest in the series.



Gotta agree with this.

Me too. At the end of the day, I just don't have love for it like I use to. When they start to get serious again with the series, then I will go back to it. I can still play Soul Edge and Soul Calibur to death. Any others after that, I don't care for.

I like no. 4, but yoda? why not mace windu or Luke, or even Anakin? , but ill be D'loading vader to my 360, when hes available - The Apprentice kicks arse, the Ninjutsu style he uses is awesome.

Ive noticed it feels more like Soulcalibur 1 when you play it - Not 'Back to basics' ,but theyve got rid of the parts in the others that didnt need to be there. Create a character mode is a good piece, but you cant select the styles yoda or the apprentice use!!! Damn!

I like no. 4, but yoda? why not mace windu or Luke, or even Anakin? , but ill be D'loading vader to my 360, when hes available - The Apprentice kicks arse, the Ninjutsu style he uses is awesome.

Ive noticed it feels more like Soulcalibur 1 when you play it - Not 'Back to basics' ,but theyve got rid of the parts in the others that didnt need to be there. Create a character mode is a good piece, but you cant select the styles yoda or the apprentice use!!! Damn!

I'm glad Yoda isn't on the PS3, playing against him would be shitting annoying. He's too small. Luke should have been instead.

To me all SC3 was, is SC2 with crappy new modes. Great Stories? No. Just no. Soul Edge was an example of the game having great stories.Meh, of course you'd say that if the game was fresh when you first played it.






Then don't believe it. To me it's nothing new or special. And yes programmers can evolve the game without (fucking) everything up. They've done it with Tekken, and Capcom's done it with Street Fighter.
You still haven't shown how they've done it with Tekken or Street fighter for that fact. If you'll make an assumption it would help you to prove it. I've played all the Street Fighters and the only remotely new thing I've ever seen was they can switched over to 3D, they've sharpened the characters, and the Alpha series has Dramatic battle where the game assists you by providing an extra character to fight alongside you. Unless you mean throwing in characters so that they can "tag in" like in EX.3, SF has made very little changes.



Playing a 3D game can't feel cartoonish? I highly disagree. SC's characters have gotten over the top and ridiculous in my opinion. The gimmicky guest characters only add to that opinion. That's why I compare it to GGXX. Because like that game, Namco is getting crazy with their new characters, which loses the epic feel started in Soul Edge,
OMG you are still on these "guest characters", my god wait until Soul Calibur 5 comes in you'll get some new permanent characters. And these "gimmicky" ones will go away. I've never see somebody say having more options is a fault. It's like getting mad when Ben&Jerry's gets a new limited edition flavor and saying, "damn it this store used to be so cool when it only had 3 flavors, I hate having more options!!". It sounds ridiculous and borderline communists to not want to buy a game because of "unnecessary gimmicks". Wait so Tekken can add new characters non-stop, "but stop the presses" when Soul Calibur does it?



They're very similar games, but the years have been kinder to Tekken. Namco obviously puts more effort in that series, than Soul Calibur. This is purely biased. Your personal opinion on the matter does not constitute fact.


Programmer 1: "Hey what are we gonna do about SC, we spend so much time on Tekken?"

Programmer 2: "Just give them the same game as last year. Make them think it's new by throwing in some new modes and more guest characters."

Programmer 1: "Okay, what guess characters?"

Programmer 2: "Ummm, Well... Isn't the new Star Wars game and CG movie coming out soon."

Programmer 1: "Yeah."

Programmer 2: "Then throw in some Star Wars Characters. That will hook em."

Programmer 1: "Excellent. I know just what characters to use. And get this, like SC2, we'll make them exclusive to each version."

Programmer 2: "Great, get on it."

Programmer 1: "I'm in the money! I'm in the Money!"



That was humorous. Not at all true but at least it was humorous. You debunked your own idea since SC3 and SC4 are nowhere near the same. The PS2 and PS3 are nowhere near the same system. They have been adding new characters since day 1, adding new modes since day 1 as well. And surprise surprise Tekken is doing the same. How you haven't gotten into your head that Tekken and Soul Calibur are not parallel games is beyond me. THE GAMES ARE SO SIMILAR YOSHIMITSU PLAYS IN BOTH! And haven't you realized that most systems market their games like that? Games will go multi-platform but the games have differences in them. That way both sides feel that their edition is better and therefore more Xbox360's and PS3's are sold. Guess what game businesses are.... wait for it.... BUSINESSES! They will do whatever it takes to milk your money out of you, and they will give you your money's worth in fun.

You make good points Jeff. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying those things personally turned me off. Like Mortal Kombat did when they started to get ridiculous with the characters and modes and such.

Maybe I'll rent it and give it a go in January.

I have no plans on getting SC4 since I can't seem to get into the SC series, but I'm glad to hear that Harkus is enjoying it. The character creation does intrigue me because I feel there isn't enough games with that option.

Other then that the humor from this thread wins.

I've rented the game this past Friday (don't have the money to buy it, but I deem this game worthy of my money for a full purchase). I have played Soul Edge and I played that non-stop. Then Soul Calibur came out, but I could only play it in the arcades because I didn't have a Dreamcast. Then comparing SC2 to 3, I'd have to say I liked 2 better. The create a character was okay at best, but it was just a way to kill time for me. I used to be really good with Seung-Mina (sp?), but after I made Cloud with Siegfried's moves, I couldn't stop playing with him, lol. And now that I've played SC4, I would say that this one is my favorite by a long shot. I could honestly care less about storylines (it's a fucking fighting game) and I have a lot of fun playing it. I especially like beating people with Yoda. A lot of people complain about him being so small that you can't hit him. That's not the case at all. The only real move that simply won't work on him (as far as I know) is the throws. He is completely immune to throws. Otherwise, I just fight him like I would with anyone else with Siegfried and he goes down just as easily. But not a lot of people know this about Yoda or the cons of using him too (he's not that quick and he attacks just as fast as Nightmare or anyone with a big heavy weapon).

Right now, I'm in the process of making (or trying) an Arnold Schwarzenegger character and a Solid Snake character.

It's ok

I've rented the game this past Friday (don't have the money to buy it, but I deem this game worthy of my money for a full purchase). I have played Soul Edge and I played that non-stop. Then Soul Calibur came out, but I could only play it in the arcades because I didn't have a Dreamcast. Then comparing SC2 to 3, I'd have to say I liked 2 better. The create a character was okay at best, but it was just a way to kill time for me. I used to be really good with Seung-Mina (sp?), but after I made Cloud with Siegfried's moves, I couldn't stop playing with him, lol. And now that I've played SC4, I would say that this one is my favorite by a long shot. I could honestly care less about storylines (it's a fucking fighting game) and I have a lot of fun playing it. I especially like beating people with Yoda. A lot of people complain about him being so small that you can't hit him. That's not the case at all. The only real move that simply won't work on him (as far as I know) is the throws. He is completely immune to throws. Otherwise, I just fight him like I would with anyone else with Siegfried and he goes down just as easily. But not a lot of people know this about Yoda or the cons of using him too (he's not that quick and he attacks just as fast as Nightmare or anyone with a big heavy weapon).

Right now, I'm in the process of making (or trying) an Arnold Schwarzenegger character and a Solid Snake character.


Mid & High horizontal attacks miss Yoda.

Mid & High horizontal attacks miss Yoda.

Just strictly use vertical attacks, a same like with Don (Sp?) from Tekken 3.

Just strictly use vertical attacks, a same like with Don (Sp?) from Tekken 3.

Sure, because all the good combos don't use horizontal attacks. =/

Yoda is the only character where almost half of your attacks are considered null and void (unless he jumps into them). How is that fair?

Jeff, you mean Gon, the little cute dinosaur from the manga by Masashi Tanaka.


Oh damn! All Seeing Eye, a guest character in Tekken 3!!! That's SOOOO gimmicky, so it must be a sucky game, right?

Sure, because all the good combos don't use horizontal attacks. =/

Yoda is the only character where almost half of your attacks are considered null and void (unless he jumps into them). How is that fair?

Actually there are a fair amount of good combos that start with vertical attacks. Depends who you use, Xianghua for example has quite a few vertical combos. So does Siegfried. Also seeing as the he SHOULD fight like he does in Star Wars, he should be jumping at each attack... well almost.


lol yeah it is Gon. Never knew he was from a Manga though. Yet another guest character, Namco will you never learn :rolleyes:.

Jeff, you mean Gon, the little cute dinosaur from the manga by Masashi Tanaka.


Oh damn! All Seeing Eye, a guest character in Tekken 3!!! That's SOOOO gimmicky, so it must be a sucky game, right?

Wrong. Tekken 3 didn't go crazy with it like Soul Calibur is doing. It may sound silly, but that's how I feel about it.

"UBERCOOL! I GET TO PLAY AS YODA! WEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Nobody buys a fighting game for one character! That's like picking up SF4 for only Ryu.

I actually don't own a PS3 (shock / horror / gasp) but this game does look very tasty.

May wait until the console price comes down before reconsidering.

May I interest you in a 360 the 100 dollar less, counterpart of the PS3 with more games, and a very (online)active arcade?

Thank you for your pursuasive offer, but I'm afraid I must decline.

You're right, the 360 is cheaper, however time at my television doesn't appeal to me as much as it once did. I'm usually online or playing a handheld whilst encased in the toasty warmth of my much-loved bed. O_o

Ah I see, then you'll love to hear about the Media Center feature. All you need is a computer with all your favorite movies and songs you've downloaded from online. And you can put it on your HDD. Which saves you the trip of being on your computer, and enhances the effect of your movies putting them on a well sized screen(TV).

Actually there are a fair amount of good combos that start with vertical attacks. Depends who you use, Xianghua for example has quite a few vertical combos. So does Siegfried. Also seeing as the he SHOULD fight like he does in Star Wars, he should be jumping at each attack... well almost.


lol yeah it is Gon. Never knew he was from a Manga though. Yet another guest character, Namco will you never learn :rolleyes:.

Okay, you obviously didnt get what I was saying. Yes I know many combos start with vertical attacks, but the good ones mix in horizontal ones as well. Since Yoda isn't hit by those, the better combos are basically gimped from the start. That is not fair, imo.

Also, Jeff, stop sounding like a 360 fanboy =/ Forsrs.

May I interest you in a 360 the 100 dollar less, counterpart of the PS3 with more games, and a very (online)active arcade?

Okay, you obviously didnt get what I was saying. Yes I know many combos start with vertical attacks, but the good ones mix in horizontal ones as well. Since Yoda isn't hit by those, the better combos are basically gimped from the start. That is not fair, imo.

Also, Jeff, stop sounding like a 360 fanboy =/ Forsrs.
Actually some of the vertical combos are launchers, there are quite a few juggle combos.


Also it's a joke d00d. Not to sidestep that the 360 is the logical choice. :P



Sounds like you are mad because you have a PS3. Once again: Obvious choice, "nuff said".

PS3 vs X360 is for fanboys who don't have enough money to buy both.

Luckily i got Soul Calibur IV for my birthday, because i was agonising over which system to get it for. And initially, the only interest i had in the game was the fact that Yoda or Vader were available to fight with.

I got the 360 version, and immediately played through the story mode with Yoda, enjoying the FUCK out of the fact that the designers obviously took great care with the model design and animation - he fights just like he does in AOTC and ROTS. I'm not a fighting game person, so personally it didn't bother me about the fact that he is 'broken' - obviously high attacks are going to miss - when he is standing still - because of his height. If you notice though, all of his attacks include jumping - making him susceptible to high and mid attacks.

That said, it was a brilliant marketing ploy - it takes a lot for me to buy a fighting game. I got DOA4 because I picked up DOA:Ultimate for 15 bucks and loved the 'collect a costume' draw - and was disappointed by the fact that DOA4 only had 8 costumes per character as opposed to the 30 or so in DOA:ultimate. I got SCIV for Yoda - but I fell in love with it for the character creator.

When I realised that i could make pretty much anyone I wanted with it - the game suddenly achieved unlimited replayability. As if the roster of characters wasn't varied and awesome enough - from guest Jedi and Sith to awesome 'original' characters - coming from DOA, which had, honestly, about three interesting characters (Kasumi, Hayabusa and Christie) to a huge range of interesting and diverse characters - all with unique storylines - was a breath of fresh air.

Add in the fact that I've now got the Prince of Persia, my WoW character, Edward Elric, The Black Knight and the Grim Reaper from Monty Python - the list goes on.

I'm probably gushing and not making much sense, but SCIV has everything i like in a game - customization, levelling, collection...it's fantastic.

Ah another FMA fan I see. Anywho yeah I would assume Yoda jumps a fair amount in the game, that pretty much is his fighting style. Guard impacting against Yoda would be terrible fun imo. Also I implore, play as Maxi, and Yun-Seong. You will not be disappointed!

Depending on if I make a trip to LA next month or not, I might get SCIV next week.

Might.

Big might.

Mid & High horizontal attacks miss Yoda.
I have to disagree because I use mid all the time. Maybe it depends on the character or something but all of my attacks hit.

Damn, the Apprentice is hard to beat on Arcade. Jesus christ it took me like 5 tries to beat the bastard. Everyone else is fairly easy.

Ah I see, then you'll love to hear about the Media Center feature. All you need is a computer with all your favorite movies and songs you've downloaded from online. And you can put it on your HDD. Which saves you the trip of being on your computer, and enhances the effect of your movies putting them on a well sized screen(TV).


Are you suggesting that an XBox 360 can be plugged into a PC Monitor?

Yes and no... I mean rather than watch your movies on your monitor just hook up your xbox360 to your tv and watch it, it'll be larger and you'll get the watching a movie that isn't compressed to a monitor feel.

Technically the viewing would be better on a monitor. Most people sit about a foot away from a monitor, so they'd not really notice a difference.

Whereas on a TV, the image is stretched. (unless HD, but who buys into that bullshit anyway?)

Technically the viewing would be better on a monitor. Most people sit about a foot away from a monitor, so they'd not really notice a difference.

Whereas on a TV, the image is stretched. (unless HD, but who buys into that bullshit anyway?)

Actually being farther sharpens. Your eyes aren't close enough to see the pixelation. Connect your tv to a computer and go find a bricky vid on youtube, the clarity will amaze you. I remember watching VeohTV on my tv, it was ffreackin crystal clear and I was about 3 feet away maybe. That's the common misconception that the screen/image will be (Stretched) truth be told on a monitor the picture is compressed which is even worse.

I'm all for the monitor idea coz my mother is usually in front of the big tv.

So if I can use my PC monitor, that'd be awexome.

Actually being farther sharpens. Your eyes aren't close enough to see the pixelation. Connect your tv to a computer and go find a bricky vid on youtube, the clarity will amaze you. I remember watching VeohTV on my tv, it was ffreackin crystal clear and I was about 3 feet away maybe. That's the common misconception that the screen/image will be (Stretched) truth be told on a monitor the picture is compressed which is even worse.

Obvious nigger propaganda!

Obvious nigger propaganda!

Well believe what you will, try it yourself, assuming you have a S-Video ready tv, and a S-Video cord that comes with almost all graphics cards. If you have a flat screen tv, connect your DVI cord to your Graphics card and then you tell me who the nigger is here.






































































































P.S. It's you.

haha Jeff <3

And I don't have a computer :>

Well believe what you will, try it yourself, assuming you have a S-Video ready tv, and a S-Video cord that comes with almost all graphics cards. If you have a flat screen tv, connect your DVI cord to your Graphics card and then you tell me who the nigger is here.






































































































P.S. It's you.

Jeff's got the right idea. If your TV isn't S-Video ready, a RCA to S-video converter will do the job nicely as well. And don't believe that bullshit about the picture quality not improving using a converter. Trust me, it's lies. A converter will get rid of dot crawl, and color blending just like a straight connection would. The picture quality is sharper too, just like a straight connection.

I've been trying to track down a RCA to S-Video converter. It's like nowhere to be found! Assuming you bought/have one: where'd you get yours?

I've been trying to track down a RCA to S-Video converter. It's like nowhere to be found! Assuming you bought/have one: where'd you get yours?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JKUONY

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5fid=102&sku=13051

There are places where you can get them for cheaper prices. But you have to look hard.

Many people caught on to the picture quality being no different than a straight connection, so they're going fast, especially the female s-video to rca male ones.

Is this as good as DOA?

DOA sucks.

I find this better than DOA. I get burned out of fighting games rather easily (I can only play them for around 2 hours before getting tired of it) but I can play this game all night.

DOA sucks.

lol sexist :-P

Sexist, my ass, DOA is nothing but a game to show off boobs under the guise of a fighting game. The fighting itself is pretty shitty too.

You say that, but Ivy in SC was made more over-sexed in this game then she already was. Plus she's basically a dominatrix with a sword whip. Then there's Taki, the ninja who wears thin super tight spandex that practically shows her naked. All the girl fighters also have jiggiling breat physics. It's one thing not to like a fighting game, but saying it's because of the girls in it, is very hypocritical.

I didn't say because it had girls in it. I said because all it is is a boob show off under the guise of a fighting game. Why else do you think DOA Xtreme Volleyball was made? Sex sells.

If you notice, DOA is 90% female cast. Hell, I bet if they could, they'd have made the Spartan guest character have tit physics. Each new DOA game that comes out only improves on two things. Breast physics and graphics.

I also don't think DOA is a very good fighter at all.

but the boobs man.

think of the boobs!

Real ones are much better.

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Noski, you being a hypocrite. I also didn't say if was because of the girls, I said that SC has sexed up female characters just like DOA. Rather DOA has more or less is irrelevant. Now if you said Virtua Fighter, I would agree, because the female characters in that game are not exploited sexually, like in DOA and SC. In short, don't knock DOA when SC is just as guilty.

DOA has been doing it since Day 1.

SC started on part 2 or 3. And went over-board on 4. =/

No, Taki was wearing the tight spandex ninja wear in Soul Edge. The Jiggling breast physics was also in Soul Edge. In fact a lot of the game art showed Taki most of the time. Sex sells. And don't let me get started on the 2d fighters.

Edit: Also in SC 1, Ivy was an over-sexed dominatrix. In fact, she was one of the most popular characters guys used in the arcades.

Real ones are much better.

=/

no u

Man it's been like... 8 years since I played Soul Edge.

I miss that game =/ Favorite stage was Siegfreid's on that "battlefield"

Sucks they removed the weapon guage. Nothing like purposely losing your weapon and kicking ass bare handed.

Soul Edge was so epic, it's a shame that Namco can't seem to get back to that point. That's why I fell out of love for the series. Namco really needs to get serious with the Soul games again and bring back the epic historical feel.

"The legend will never die" if they do. The way they're going now...

I might get IV when I get a 360. I have II. Need to start playing it again, especially since I have a memory card now :o

Neg, you're such a fanboy. :rolleyes:

Proof:

I am a 360 fanboy.

You've been caught!

Let's add to the pile, shall we?

Link, ftw~

Kneg how could you!

Let's add to the pile, shall we?

Link, ftw~

Link moar lyke Stink!

Noskill DOA is the best fighting game in terms of the fighting engine.
It has 9 girls, 10 if you count the spartan. And 11 boys.
If SC 4 is the same as 3 then it's not better.

Noskill DOA is the best fighting game in terms of the fighting engine.

So this is a "fact" now? I'd like to see something solid to back that up, please.

FTR, it's not that I don't agree or agree, I'm just not about to take one person's word for it.

Man, DOA is an OK game for about a few seconds just like SC, imo

It saddens me that Taki's nipples aren't showing anymore through her suit :(.

lol. Truth be told, I'd make Taki vs Taki in practice mode and make both of them jump for hours on end(exaggerated of course)! Man the physics are awesome :SWOON:!

You're a sick man, Jeff.

I'm proud.

So this is a "fact" now? I'd like to see something solid to back that up, please.

FTR, it's not that I don't agree or agree, I'm just not about to take one person's word for it.

You would just have to play both at a high level to see, not 5 min or anything. like a year.

But I can point out some things.
DOA has the best lobby/prematch set up, better than any other game I know.
The fighting counters add more attack options to DOA than any fighting game I've played, it has some of the most interactive levels to fight in than any other I've played and lots of other things that you will just have to see for your self.

I don't know if DOA is better than SC4, I've not played it.

Also, can't you low grab in SC4? Everyone says yoda is to small to be grabbed.

Street Fighter Alpha 3 pawns every other fighting games.


SF IV might change that though.



:P

You would just have to play both at a high level to see, not 5 min or anything. like a year.

But I can point out some things.
DOA has the best lobby/prematch set up, better than any other game I know.
The fighting counters add more attack options to DOA than any fighting game I've played, it has some of the most interactive levels to fight in than any other I've played and lots of other things that you will just have to see for your self.


Ah, ok.

I admit I haven't really been into DOA for a while now, but that's the first time I've ever heard anyone rank it as a top tier fighter. Sounds like something worth looking into at least.

Also, can't you low grab in SC4? Everyone says yoda is to small to be grabbed.
I don't believe you can. If you can, I'd very much like to know how.

Personally, I like DOA3 better than DOA4. They changed how to do some moves and combos (it really aggravated me when none of the grapple combos with Leon or Bayman didn't work) and I really hate the counter system now. Some of the kicks and punches look like they're around the middle area, but apparently they're 'high' attacks...so I have to press up-left on the D-pad in order to counter it. That's one of the reasons why I don't play the game so much anymore. But by personal opinion of course, I like SC4 a whole lot than DOA. Maybe it's because of the weapons and the 'Create-a-Character' mode. DOA should have this feature in a future installment I think :).

I don't believe you can. If you can, I'd very much like to know how.


You can, it's a Sigfried and Nightmare exclusive though. There may be others who have low grabs, but not everyone does.

i can only do long win streaks online using my Astaroth, he is the one character which I feel one with the commands.

my biggest complaint with the newer SC games, including SC4 is their penchant at complicating every character, like lots of old characters got dicked around with in their commands that I go meh, I used to like some of these old characters in SC1 but now some of them are just too blah to use, so I stick to Astaroth now because he didn't get dicked around like the other old SC characters.

Define "dicked around". Astaroth is one of the most horrible characters, even as powerhouses go! You must be playing some horrible people if Astaroth wins.

You're joking, right?

No, Astaroth is just that horrible.

I know a few good players that can own with him.

Astaroth is alright but he's a bit slow for my tastes. His ending movie in story mode is awesome though.