zeopower6
07-03-2008, 08:15 AM
Ugh, this album is so amazing. D:

MassMirror (http://s2.massmirror.com/a936112eb6e6a37f172e31f5cba6a60c.html) | MEGAUPLOAD (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=105UYP2M) | Mininova (http://www.mininova.org/tor/1561561) [torrent]
[these include the scans]

Music videos:
Breeze (PV) - 121.08MB - MEGAUPLOAD (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NJU3GWEW)


Heavenly Star (PV) - 136.94MB - MEGAUPLOAD (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S3FKUBCH)


Star Line (PV) - 142.08MB - MEGAUPLOAD (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IOQVYXOT)


Genki Rockets' debut live @ LIVE EARTH 7.7.07 - 217.55MB - MEGAUPLOAD (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z3N5SLKU)


Genki Rockets I -Heavenly Star- PVs.vob - 11 parts - split with HJSplit - 80MB x 10 + 47MB x 1
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6398/genkirocketsfp2.gif
PART 1 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J7XX3UHN)
PART 2 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PP7WEXCO)
PART 3 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2U163TXX)
PART 4 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6WPG1G83)
PART 5 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VFOIDXCP)
PART 6 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EDAQHHY6)
PART 7 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTQCSGL9)
PART 8 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UYGG068G)
PART 9 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MXDCDDO4)
PART 10 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5OMEKBEH)
PART 11 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YKR87U9H)

Album cover+tracklist


1 Prologue -Earth Rise-
2 Breeze
3 Smile
4 Star Line
5 Heavenly Star
6 Intermediate -Orbit Swimming-
7 I will
8 Star Surfer
9 Never Ever
10 Fly!
11 Star Line (Japanese Ver.)
12 Breeze: Summer Afternoon Mix
13 Breeze: Star Breeze Mix

Lyrics:
Breeze
Stay awake, I'm missing away
But I feel your vibration -- 'soyo-kaze'
Keep smiling, everything is fine
All my worries melt to the sky and gone

Take me high (I want you to)
I'm dreaming, you take me down to earth

Imaging the sunset sky, the warm desert waves
The breeze blows, ooh I'm close to you
You're kissing me, I'm here embrace you here in my heart

I'm crazy for you
I'm so into you

Distance so far away,
Our minds connecting believe in you
No fear just the light up ahead
Living vibrating into harmony

Feel the warmth
The sunshine surrounding paradise

The stars are moving you, The lights shine for me
All the colors spiral down on me
World goes round over and over around and again

Blue breeze blows from you
I'm so close to you

Imaging the sunset sky, the warm desert waves
The breeze blows, ooh I'm close to you
You're kissing me, I'm here embrace you here in my heart

The stars are moving you, The lights shine for me
All the colors spiral down on me
World goes round over and over around and again

Blue breeze blows from you
I'm so close to you

Smile
*Smile, chemisty I'm feeling
Smile, looking into your eyes
See the colors inside
Happiness takes you and all the way through

Smile, I hear my music
Harmony
Floating away, my heart starts beating,
Our story will begin

+No distance can part us, no never again
United as one we'll always be
Take a new step somewhere out there
take a chance you can, wow wow
Cause you're out there taking over

Smile, chemistry I'm feeling
Smile, it's wonder of vibes
Feel you touch me inside
Happiness takes us and all the way through

Smile, I hear your music
Harmony
Singing this song knowing you'll be with me
Our futures up ahead

**Nothing matters keep on smiing
Never give up keep on going on
Imagine and believe you

Nothing matters keep on smiling
Never give up keep on dreaming on

Believe what you can do
And don't forget your smile

+ repeat

* repeat

** repeat

Imagine and believe
And don't forget your smile

Star Line
Cinematic lights are glowing
Visions everywhere
Night line, takes me to a world so unknown

Systematic time is ticking
Getting close to you
Star line, the brightness only guide to you

*You're looking up into my world is it Moving
Suddenly I see the way you see me Vibrant

There's light in the star
There's light in the sky
There's light in my dreams
There's night and day

You and I we share the vision us, only one

There's love in the stars
There's love in the sky
There's love in my dreams
There's love and peace

+You and I we share the vision us, only one
When the time comes, show you what I see

Synchronizing thoughts are dreamy
Wishing all comes true
Star line, flashing light wave through the sky

*repeat

You and I we share the vision us, only one
When the time comes, show me what you see

*repeat

+repeat

Heavenly Star
I hear you whispering surrounded in silence
Blue vibration
I hear the waves singing in the distance
Pure isolation
I smile into the distance faraway from you
We're in resolution
I'm Dreaming, touching, breathing side by side, yeh
Dive into the sky

*Let's get away fly away
I found the path to paradise
Shining spiral of gold
Take my hand, find our way out

Heavenly stars above
Just believe what's in your heart
No border between us
I can always feel you inside

Wherever we are

I see you, feel you, I'm your creation
Ever lasting affection
Life's an endless spiral going round
Yes, we are in love

*repeat

Let's get away, fly away
I'm feeling raindrops on my face
Sun shines through the clouds yeh
Rainbow all around

I spread my winds, fly away
The wind sweeps me off my feet
Blowing me away yeh
Trees whispering to me

I'm feeling free now

*repeat

Nothing can divide us
Where ever we are

I will
Go round round-a-bout you
Yesterday today around and tomorrow
Take you and to distance
An endless possibility

Capture the moonlight night star
Gets better every moment light in time
I'm yours side to side up down
Complete magic

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air

I will call your,

Name, hear, sun shines through the rain
Break darkness beginning no sorrow
Zoom, boom, swinging motion
I'm living this moment in time

Circle, whirl-a-bout you
Gravity pulls me more and more towards you
Feelings rush towards you
Blend emotion and

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air
I will blow a kiss, touching you inside
I will touch your scent, perfume to my heart

I will I will........

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air
I will follow you, world rotates with you
I will breathe in deep, deeper than the sea

I will change for you, I'm your rainbow sky
I will show you dreams, unicorns unite
I will set you free, make your mind explode
I will kick the sky, million pieces fall

I will I will........

Star Surfer
I'm walking the star dust beach
I'm feeling sand under my feet
I'm riding the waves in heaven
Nothing can get in the way

I see visions in frame motion
Times ticking away in action
Natures on the move everywhere
We burst into passion

*Feel the waves,
And Happy vibes surrounds us twilight shining
I'm feeling good
We're star surfers

Feel the beat
And Rising high above stars
Shock wave takes us out to sea, Synchro-waves

I'm hearing the stars singing
Whispering songs of love to me
Multi colors rush through my mind
Wonderful feeling this is

I'm free as a bird I'm drifting
The waves take me out to nowhere
Calm silence catches my heart beat

*repeat x 2

Never Ever
I am me and you are only you
We live our different lives
But still the same vision

All the same, what shape and size we are
We keep on moving on
That's what life's all about

I see flowers bloom by your size
And waiting for the sun
It is the sign of hope image of our fate

Sun sets where ever you may be
And rising up again
But the sun I see only sits in dark space lighting up your world

Break the silence I'm feeling deep inside
Shooting stars will light our worlds apart
Wishing we can be together you and me as one forever

I want to change the seasons on the move
Want to smell the rain changing into snow
Everything I want to do with you is still in the future

This moment in time be my dream keeper

Sora ni mau hanabira tooku de hibiku aoi nami no ne
Fui ni shinjirareru kono sekai ni afureru inochi

Itsuka I wanna be by your side yo te wo hiroge
Kusano ue de kaze wo atsumete
Komorebito sunshower sou kanpeki na
Ichinichi ga heiwa ga zutto tsuzuku youni

*Yubi ni furete ita ikara zutto soba ni ita ikara
Te wo tsunaide iru dake de kanjirareru
Futari ga tsunagatteru koto subete ga mimamotteru koto
Hakana sa no ue ni saita shiawase wo sumuiteyuku

Sou mirai e

*repeat

Fly!
You take me
Take my hand now
Way up high above the sky so high
I'm feeling good
I'm feeling fresh in the clear crispy air

I reach out
Grab my hand now
You get the sky
and dive into the blue
I'm gonna breathe
I'm gonna smile and the happiness spread

*We can make it real if we try
Believe we can fly and high

Drifting the clouds
Moving the stars and
Reaching (the) moon
It's passing all shiny rays
Release me free from gravity and fly away

Nature's exploding
Flowers are blooming
(The) waves are singing
Walking the clouds and the moon
You pull me up all the way
We're making a brand new escape

With me now
Take a step now
Out to the world never seen before
You make me smile
You make me laugh and the happiness spreads

Jump up high
And way up high
I catch the sky and dive into the blue
I'm feeling good
I'm feeling love in the clear crispy air

*repeat

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Album track commentary:
Prologue -Earth Rise-: I've been waiting for this track. XD It's basically the track used at LIVE EARTH before and after she performed Heavenly Star / Breeze, I believe. Love it!

Intermediate -Orbit Swimming: Sparkly. It seems to mix a bunch of vocals from the new album tracks.

I will: Mmm! Funky sort of Daft Punk-lite sound! I love this sort of thing. Lyrics are some of the strangest in terms of grammar from the team behind Genki Rockets, but eh. They're Japanese people writing English lyrics. I'm sad that the girl from the USA who is Lumi doesn't proofread. XD

Star Surfer: OMG. The waves in the beginning are so soothing. Introduction instrumentals are sort of peppy and an electro/acoustic mix. This song is kinda like Heavenly Star's slightly less pretty twin. I used to think the verses didn't fit the chorus, but the chorus is just more energized as opposed to the more laidback verses. D: The bridge in this is so trancy. LOL.

Never Ever: OMG SAD. :[ I didn't really expect them to have a ballad like this sort of thing... piano and synth strings only. Wah! Makes me want to cry. Definitely my favorite track on this album. English -> Japanese is too Angela Aki's "Kiss from a Rose" for me. D: I LIKED IT IN ENGLISH. Oh well, BEAUTIFUL ANYWAAAY. LOVE ITTTT. THE STRINGS ARE SO GORGEOUS <3333

Fly!: Oh no, it's starting out really American. WOAH WHY IS HER VOICE SO WEIRD. "I'M FEELING FRESH IN THE CLEAR BLUE SOMETHING." Seriously, what the heck happened to her voice? It got really nasally. Okay song, but definitely not as good as some of the other tracks.

Star Line (Japanese Version), Breeze (Remixes): It's so strange hearing it in Japanese. I like it though. Seems like it was written in Japanese first and then switched to English.. D: Remixes are as hot as you'd expect them to be. Breeze is just so amazing that it doesn't matter who remixes it. :D Woah wtf, LATIN SUMMER AFTERNOON? XD

heavenlystar08
07-03-2008, 11:52 PM
Nice review man..

This is ultimate torture.. But I will choose to wait for my album instead of downloading the ripped version in this website.. I think I can wait... As long as play-asia actually sends my copy by saturday, or next monday...

Anyway.. Was it Never Ever that I heard.. That goes half way into Japanese lyrics? Oh and how long is the entire album--minutes wise?

And yeah.. I think the Star Breeze is aiight.. But I like the Kaskade and the Breeze summer afternoon mix, mixed by Dj Kazuo more than the breeze remixes... So when I upload the album to my zune when I get it--I'm replacing the last two tracks..

zeopower6
07-04-2008, 02:43 AM
The album is about 52 minutes all the way though.

http://www.foursp.jp/rachel/index.php -> This girl, Rachel Rhodes, is the model for LUMI. She is also the vocalist. She was born in North Carolina and is 15.

spankyjones
07-04-2008, 03:56 AM
O_O Thank you very much!

dontknow09
07-04-2008, 04:00 AM
Thanks a lot!

Didn't know about the stand-in model. I always thought Genki Rockets was 100% virtual.

zeopower6
07-04-2008, 04:35 AM
Well, they appeared virtual from the first music video due to the Take On Me-like effects, but it's a real girl. :o

Seemed kinda weird that she got really really real after a while. XD

wOk_
07-04-2008, 06:42 AM
OMG UR A LEGEND!!!
was looking everyone for this album! lifesaver :D

Cheeers Big Ears!!!

heavenlystar08
07-04-2008, 07:38 AM
The album is about 52 minutes all the way though.

http://www.foursp.jp/rachel/index.php -> This girl, Rachel Rhodes, is the model for LUMI. She is also the vocalist. She was born in North Carolina and is 15.

I've done a bit of researching myself.. and found out that the other vocalist for "Lumi" is Nami Miyahara.

check out her website at:vvv

http://www.nami-miyahara.com/main.html

I instantly recognize her voice (you can her her singing when you go to her site)..

As for the Rachel Rhodes chick.. Yeah she is the other vocalist.. But there is no way she could be the model who poses in breeze/star line, and on the album cover and pages.. They look totally different imo..

zeopower6
07-04-2008, 08:19 AM
No, she looks the exact same. I don't know how you think she looks different D: Just look at her face!






Her hair is just styled differently.

She looks really different when not LUMI-ized.


heavenlystar08
07-04-2008, 08:24 AM
Well, they appeared virtual from the first music video due to the Take On Me-like effects, but it's a real girl. :o

Seemed kinda weird that she got really really real after a while. XD

oh sheit.. I just realized the heavenly star model is the same one as the breeze one.. I always thought the HS model was different from the breeze/star line..


I had to pause it right around 3:02 to see her (Rachel Rhodes) jumping to look like that.. I'm kinda baffled though.. if you pause the video with her on the screen every few centi seconds.. you an actually see the real body of hers instead of rendered drawing...

damn though she really looks young in the heavenly star vid lol..

And she is much younger than I thought.. I thought she would be 17-18.. She's really 15? damn...

heavenlystar08
07-04-2008, 08:38 AM
No, she looks the exact same. I don't know how you think she looks different D: Just look at her face!






Her hair is just styled differently.

She looks really different when not LUMI-ized.




Yeah.. I just realized that.. when I was looking at the heavenly star and breeze vid.. frame by frame and compared to the pics..

Definitely same facial features I agree.. although everything else almost.. looks very different.. She never looks the same in every pic.. lol

the first and 3rd pic make her look euroasian.. But when she models for GR.. she looks 100% asian..

and yeah.. its hard to believe that.. Without the "Take on Me Vid" by A-Ha--GR would have probably never existed...

sonic_fan_num_1
07-04-2008, 09:43 AM
Thank you,

zeopower6
07-04-2008, 09:45 AM
and yeah.. its hard to believe that.. Without the "Take on Me Vid" by A-Ha--GR would have probably never existed...

They definitely would've existed.

The A-ha thing was just something that they wanted to do. I'm sure that they would've made the band for Lumines and all that... and the song would've probably done moderately well. [It got a lot of attention from the PV though.]

Debut live @ LIVE EARTH was added. It is basically a high quality ver. of the Youtube videos that Qchannel put up.

heavenlystar08
07-04-2008, 10:49 AM
They definitely would've existed.

The A-ha thing was just something that they wanted to do. I'm sure that they would've made the band for Lumines and all that... and the song would've probably done moderately well. [It got a lot of attention from the PV though.]

Debut live @ LIVE EARTH was added. It is basically a high quality ver. of the Youtube videos that Qchannel put up.

It definitely wouldn't be the same as it is now. But I still highly doubt GR would have existed without A-ha. The fictional character "Lumi" and the music videos are based off of A-ha's music video.

zeopower6
07-04-2008, 12:00 PM
Only Heavenly Star was based on Take on Me. The sketchy look of the entire PV anyway.

Everything else has a distinctly different look to it. The concept of Lumi did not come from Take on Me either.. the only inspiration taken was that art style used during the music video, and it was only for one PV.

heavenlystar08
07-04-2008, 08:00 PM
Only Heavenly Star was based on Take on Me. The sketchy look of the entire PV anyway.

Everything else has a distinctly different look to it. The concept of Lumi did not come from Take on Me either.. the only inspiration taken was that art style used during the music video, and it was only for one PV.

No, thats not true. All of the PVs so far, have A-ha's Take on Me music video art rendering style. Heavenly Star has the most, but Breeze and Star Line have it too--to a much lesser extent. Just look at "Lumi's hair in Breeze and Star Line...

sayde
07-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Finally, an official name to go w/ the face I've been obsessing over for these past few months. I was getting tired of referring to her as Lumi. I think I can rest in peace now. Anyways, thanks a lot for the awesome uploads zeopower6.

heavenlystar08
07-04-2008, 09:08 PM
Finally, an official name to go w/ the face I've been obsessing over for these past few months. I was getting tired of referring to her as Lumi. I think I can rest in peace now. Anyways, thanks a lot for the awesome uploads zeopower6.

Yeah.. I can't believe we finally found out who the singers and the actual model are. But now the chase has ended.. It was kind of fun.. When they were unknown.. lol



and..

Yes! My CD finally shipped today from play-asia!

sayde
07-04-2008, 09:28 PM
Glad to hear it! Come to think of it, I might have a favor to ask of you depending on whether or not zeopower6 feels up to it.

heavenlystar08
07-04-2008, 11:07 PM
Glad to hear it! Come to think of it, I might have a favor to ask of you depending on whether or not zeopower6 feels up to it.

What?

sayde
07-05-2008, 01:30 AM
I'm trying to get my hands on the iso of the dvd with all the PV's on it. (Either that, or the individual .vob files within the dvd.)

zeopower6
07-05-2008, 01:58 AM
I am going to split the VOBs using HJSplit, so they're a lot easier to upload.

Genki Rockets I -Heavenly Star- PVs.vob - 11 parts - split with HJSplit - 80MB x 10 + 47MB x 1
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6398/genkirocketsfp2.gif
PART 1 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J7XX3UHN)
PART 2 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PP7WEXCO)
PART 3 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2U163TXX)
PART 4 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6WPG1G83)
PART 5 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VFOIDXCP)
PART 6 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EDAQHHY6)
PART 7 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTQCSGL9)
PART 8 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UYGG068G)
PART 9 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MXDCDDO4)
PART 10 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5OMEKBEH)
PART 11 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YKR87U9H)

Dr_Strangelove
07-05-2008, 02:54 PM
Also, I would like to fuck this girl.
At full force, in her vagina, mouth and ass.

meng
07-05-2008, 05:50 PM
Also, I would like to fuck this girl.
At full force, in her vagina, mouth and ass.

Also. What the hell.

spankyjones
07-05-2008, 07:49 PM
Also, I would like to fuck this girl.
At full force, in her vagina, mouth and ass.

Cool story, bro.

Lunk
07-05-2008, 08:13 PM
Ok, you guys, I am going to type up the lyrics, if you need them, PM me on this forum or email me at [email protected]

I will have all of them done (I will - Fly!) by today. Great album, thanks for everything...

GENKI ROCKETS!

spindash
07-05-2008, 08:53 PM
Thank you... Tetsuya Mizuguchi rules !

Lunk
07-05-2008, 08:58 PM
Actually, I'll just post them here:


Go round round-a-bout you
Yesterday today around and tomorrow
Take you and to distance
An endless possiblity

Capture the moonlight night star
Gets better every moment light in time
I'm yours side to side up down
Complete magic

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air

I will call your,

Name, hear, sun shines through the rain
Break darkness beginning no sorrow
Zoom, boom, swinging motion
I'm living this moment in time

Circle, whirl-a-bout you
Gravity pulls me more and more towards you
Feelings rush towards you
Blend emotion and

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air
I will blow a kiss, touching you inside
I will touch your scent, perfume to my heart

I will I will----.

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air
I will follow you, world rotates with you
I will breathe in deep, deeper than the sea

I will change for you, I'm your rainbow sky
I will show you dreams, unicorns unite
I will set you free, make your mind explode
I will kick the sky, million pieces fall

I will I will-----


I'm walking the star dust beach
I'm feeling sand under my feet
I'm riding the waves in heaven
Nothing can get in the way

I see visions in frame motion
Times ticking away in action
Natures on the move everywhere
We burst into passion

*
Feel the waves
And Happy vibes surrounds us twilight shinning
I'm feeling good
We're star surfers

Feel the beat
And Rising high above stars
Shockwaves takes us out to sea, Synchro-waves

I'm hearing the stars singing
Whispering songs of love to me
Multi colors rush through my mind
Wonderful feeling this is

I'm free as a bird I'm drifting
The waves take me out to nowhere
Calm silence catches my heartbeat
I burst into passion

*repeat X2


I am me and you are only you
We live our different lives
But still the same vision

All the same, what shape and size we are
We keep on moving on
That's what life is all about

I see flowers bloom by your side
And waiting for the sun
It is the sign of hope image of our fate

Sun sets where ever you may be
And rising up again
But the sun I see only sits in dark space lighting up your world

Break the silence I'm feeling deep inside
Shooting stars will light our worlds apart
Wishing we can be together you and me as one forever

I want to chase the seasons on the move
I want to smell the rain changing into snow
Everything I want to do with you is still in the future

This moment in time be my dream keeper

(The rest is in japanese along with the chorus)


You take me
Take my hand now
Way high up above the sky so high
I'm feeling good
I'm feeling fresh in the clear crispy air

I reach out
Grab my hand now
You get the sky and dive into the blue
I'm gonna breathe
I'm gonna smile and the happiness spreads

*
We can make it real if we try
Believe we can fly and high

Drifting the clouds
Moving the stars and
Reaching (the) moon
It's passing all shinny rays
Release me free from gravity and fly away

Nature's exploding
Flowers are blooming
(The) waves are singing
Walking the clouds and the moon
You pull me up all the way,
We're making a brand new escape

With me now
Take a step now
Out to the world never seen before
You make me smile
You make me laugh and the happiness spreads

Jump up high
And way up high
I catch the sky and dive into the blue
I'm feeling good
I'm feeling love in the clear crispy air

*repeat

Enjoy!

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 09:02 PM
Also, I would like to fuck this girl.
At full force, in her vagina, mouth and ass.

Yeah.... Just know that she's only 15 years old..

Lunk
07-05-2008, 09:04 PM
Yeah.... Just know that she's only 15 years old..

She's actually 18...

:/

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 09:11 PM
She's actually 18...

:/

LOL Rachel Rhodes.. Isn't 18. She's 15

http://www.foursp.jp/rachel/index.php

Did you not read the first page? The thread creator brought it up even..

Lunk
07-05-2008, 09:14 PM
OH! I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the girl Lumi, not the girl who is the model for her. Yeah, the girl who models Lumi is 15, Lumi herself is 18.

Sorry, I got confused XP

Also, for all of the people who say it's one vocalist:

IT'S NOT ONE VOCALIST

It's just a bunch of female voices, like those ones, but put through a vocoder! The voice is almost completely CG!


A vocoder (a portmanteau of vox/voc (voice) and encoder) is a speech analyzer and synthesizer. It was originally developed as a speech coder for telecommunications applications in the 1930s, the idea being to code speech for transmission. Its primary use in this fashion is for secure radio communication, where voice has to be digitized, encrypted and then transmitted on a narrow, voice-bandwidth channel. The vocoder has also been used extensively as an electronic musical instrument.

The vocoder is related to, but essentially different from, the computer algorithm known as the "phase vocoder".

Whereas the vocoder analyzes speech, transforms it into electronically transmitted information, and recreates it, the voder (from Voice Operating Demonstrator) generates synthesized speech by means of a console with fifteen touch-sensitive keys and a foot pedal, basically consisting of the "second half" of the vocoder, but with manual filter controls, needing a highly trained operator.

Basically, the girls all sing harmonic tunes, different notes, then the music company mixes them all together into sounds and words...

It's very complex yet simple.

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 09:30 PM
OH! I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the girl Lumi, not the girl who is the model for her. Yeah, the girl who models Lumi is 15, Lumi herself is 18.

Sorry, I got confused XP

Also, for all of the people who say it's one vocalist:

IT'S NOT ONE VOCALIST

It's just a bunch of female voices, like those ones, but put through a vocoder! The voice is almost completely CG!



Basically, the girls all sing harmonic tunes, different notes, then the music company mixes them all together into sounds and words...

It's very complex yet simple.

Yep.. "Lumi" is 18.. I thought the guy was talking about the real model... Since we were on that topic during that time of the discussion.

And I posted the other singer on the first page. According to one of the snapshots the TC posted.. One of the last ones are the "credits" section, GR appears to only credit 2 singers. Rachel Rhodes, and Nami Miyahara.

Lunk
07-05-2008, 09:41 PM
Hmmm.... Why is it that Q! Entertainment said that it was a bunch of vocalists... They either must have been lying, or they are telling the truth, but covering it up. I dunno, but I still think the voice is complete CG, because you can hear some flubs at certain parts in some songs, and no one can hold a solo for that long as far as I know...

ALSO:

If there is just 1 or 2 vocalists, and it's not CG, then how do you explain the different remixes of Heavenly Star?

I mean, in the original version you got her singing regularly, but in the LnM Projekt remix her voice is fast paced, different breathing patterns, but the same tone, and when she says "Step into the sky" she holds it longer. And in "Floating Remix" she holds the vocal solo from "Step into the sky" for more than like, 10 seconds. Without decreasing and increasing tune AT ALL! (which is pretty much almost physically impossible if you think about it, since your vocal cords would relieve themselves a little bit during those 10-20 seconds, which would make the pitch go a little lower or decrease a little)

So by those standards, I think it might be more than one or 2 vocalists, and it may be computer generated from their voices.

:3

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 09:56 PM
Hmmm.... Why is it that Q! Entertainment said that it was a bunch of vocalists... They either must have been lying, or they are telling the truth, but covering it up. I dunno, but I still think the voice is complete CG, because you can hear some flubs at certain parts in some songs, and no one can hold a solo for that long as far as I know...

ALSO:

If there is just 1 or 2 vocalists, and it's not CG, then how do you explain the different remixes of Heavenly Star?

I mean, in the original version you got her singing regularly, but in the LnM Projekt remix her voice is fast paced, different breathing patterns, but the same tone, and when she says "Step into the sky" she holds it longer. And in "Floating Remix" she holds the vocal solo from "Step into the sky" for more than like, 10 seconds. Without decreasing and increasing tune AT ALL! (which is pretty much almost physically impossible if you think about it, since your vocal cords would relieve themselves a little bit during those 10-20 seconds, which would make the pitch go a little lower or decrease a little)

So by those standards, I think it might be more than one or 2 vocalists, and it may be computer generated from their voices.

:3

Well.. Obviously in songs nowadays, and their remixes, you can tamper with their voices... Especially since "Lumi" isn't real, GR can do anything they want with the voices. I'm pretty sure Rachel Rhodes and Nami Miyahara sing for "Lumi" though.



As for anyone else.. Who knows. I posted Nami's site on the first page--and you can hear her singing in the beginning. It definitely sounds familar to one of the "singers" in GR.

Hell.. I'm starting to doubt again if--Rachel Rhodes poses as "Lumi"'s model in all the PVS and album art.

"Lumi" models















VS

Rachel Rhodes




RR definitely bears a striking resemblance to the breeze model in terms of facial appearance--and somewhat to star line too. But.. Hardly similar to the Heavenly Star model imo

There could be more than one model maybe--and even some CGI edited in between.

I find it very peculiar that all the models in the PVs look 100% Asian.. But Rachel Rhodes herself--looks Eurasian (half white, half asian?).


Maybe its a combination of looks from BOTH of the two singers? Its really hard to tell.. What do you guys think?

zeopower6
07-05-2008, 10:08 PM
I mean, in the original version you got her singing regularly, but in the LnM Projekt remix her voice is fast paced, different breathing patterns, but the same tone, and when she says "Step into the sky" she holds it longer. And in "Floating Remix" she holds the vocal solo from "Step into the sky" for more than like, 10 seconds. Without decreasing and increasing tune AT ALL! (which is pretty much almost physically impossible if you think about it, since your vocal cords would relieve themselves a little bit during those 10-20 seconds, which would make the pitch go a little lower or decrease a little)

So by those standards, I think it might be more than one or 2 vocalists, and it may be computer generated from their voices.


Just to set things straight, they use only two vocalists, but I believe that they use pitch-correcting software on both voices [of course, the main voice that we hear is Rachel Rhodes' voice] which is why the voice sounds so "clear"~

Also, they record acappella tracks for each song, which means it's just the vocals with no background track whatsoever, in order to make the remixes. Basically, the remixers take this and change the pitch/tempo/whatever the hell they want and lay the vocals on top of their "beats" or whatever. What you're explaining is physically impossible [duh] unless you're an INCREDIBLE singer, which I doubt Rachel Rhodes/Nami Miyahara are. However, the fact that you can distort vocals with programming allows them to sound like they are. I don't think you know how remixes are created.. o_o

Q Entertainment only said that vocalists were used which is EXACTLY the case. Two vocalists are used to create the LUMI voice. They were lying at all.

There's only one model too. You have to remember that Heavenly Star was probably shot when Rachel was 13/14. She's older now. And the model in the PVs are NOT Asian looking at all. It's not hard to tell that it's Rachel at all! She's obviously the model. Only having a few photos of her as Rachel and having 4 videos and a booklet of photos of her as Lumi can't change that.

I searched around and found her modeling work for ROYAL HALL YOKOHAMA as a bride. Seems like the makeup for LUMI really makes a difference, as she uses some really heavy mascara and stuff..



I also typed up all of the lyrics and put them in the main thread.


Breeze
Stay awake, I'm missing away
But I feel your vibration -- 'soyo-kaze'
Keep smiling, everything is fine
All my worries melt to the sky and gone

Take me high (I want you to)
I'm dreaming, you take me down to earth

Imaging the sunset sky, the warm desert waves
The breeze blows, ooh I'm close to you
You're kissing me, I'm here embrace you here in my heart

I'm crazy for you
I'm so into you

Distance so far away,
Our minds connecting believe in you
No fear just the light up ahead
Living vibrating into harmony

Feel the warmth
The sunshine surrounding paradise

The stars are moving you, The lights shine for me
All the colors spiral down on me
World goes round over and over around and again

Blue breeze blows from you
I'm so close to you

Imaging the sunset sky, the warm desert waves
The breeze blows, ooh I'm close to you
You're kissing me, I'm here embrace you here in my heart

The stars are moving you, The lights shine for me
All the colors spiral down on me
World goes round over and over around and again

Blue breeze blows from you
I'm so close to you

Smile
*Smile, chemisty I'm feeling
Smile, looking into your eyes
See the colors inside
Happiness takes you and all the way through

Smile, I hear my music
Harmony
Floating away, my heart starts beating,
Our story will begin

+No distance can part us, no never again
United as one we'll always be
Take a new step somewhere out there
take a chance you can, wow wow
Cause you're out there taking over

Smile, chemistry I'm feeling
Smile, it's wonder of vibes
Feel you touch me inside
Happiness takes us and all the way through

Smile, I hear your music
Harmony
Singing this song knowing you'll be with me
Our futures up ahead

**Nothing matters keep on smiing
Never give up keep on going on
Imagine and believe you

Nothing matters keep on smiling
Never give up keep on dreaming on

Believe what you can do
And don't forget your smile

+ repeat

* repeat

** repeat

Imagine and believe
And don't forget your smile


Cinematic lights are glowing
Visions everywhere
Night line, takes me to a world so unknown

Systematic time is ticking
Getting close to you
Star line, the brightness only guide to you

*You're looking up into my world is it Moving
Suddenly I see the way you see me Vibrant

There's light in the star
There's light in the sky
There's light in my dreams
There's night and day

You and I we share the vision us, only one

There's love in the stars
There's love in the sky
There's love in my dreams
There's love and peace

+You and I we share the vision us, only one
When the time comes, show you what I see

Synchronizing thoughts are dreamy
Wishing all comes true
Star line, flashing light wave through the sky

*repeat

You and I we share the vision us, only one
When the time comes, show me what you see

*repeat

+repeat

[b]Heavenly Star
I hear you whispering surrounded in silence
Blue vibration
I hear the waves singing in the distance
Pure isolation
I smile into the distance faraway from you
We're in resolution
I'm Dreaming, touching, breathing side by side, yeh
Dive into the sky

*Let's get away fly away
I found the path to paradise
Shining spiral of gold
Take my hand, find our way out

Heavenly stars above
Just believe what's in your heart
No border between us
I can always feel you inside

Wherever we are

I see you, feel you, I'm your creation
Ever lasting affection
Life's an endless spiral going round
Yes, we are in love

*repeat

Let's get away, fly away
I'm feeling raindrops on my face
Sun shines through the clouds yeh
Rainbow all around

I spread my winds, fly away
The wind sweeps me off my feet
Blowing me away yeh
Trees whispering to me

I'm feeling free now

*repeat

Nothing can divide us
Where ever we are

I will
Go round round-a-bout you
Yesterday today around and tomorrow
Take you and to distance
An endless possibility

Capture the moonlight night star
Gets better every moment light in time
I'm yours side to side up down
Complete magic

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air

I will call your,

Name, hear, sun shines through the rain
Break darkness beginning no sorrow
Zoom, boom, swinging motion
I'm living this moment in time

Circle, whirl-a-bout you
Gravity pulls me more and more towards you
Feelings rush towards you
Blend emotion and

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air
I will blow a kiss, touching you inside
I will touch your scent, perfume to my heart

I will I will........

I will sing for you, gaze into the sky
I will dance for you, bubbles in the air
I will follow you, world rotates with you
I will breathe in deep, deeper than the sea

I will change for you, I'm your rainbow sky
I will show you dreams, unicorns unite
I will set you free, make your mind explode
I will kick the sky, million pieces fall

I will I will........

Star Surfer
I'm walking the star dust beach
I'm feeling sand under my feet
I'm riding the waves in heaven
Nothing can get in the way

I see visions in frame motion
Times ticking away in action
Natures on the move everywhere
We burst into passion

*Feel the waves,
And Happy vibes surrounds us twilight shining
I'm feeling good
We're star surfers

Feel the beat
And Rising high above stars
Shock wave takes us out to sea, Synchro-waves

I'm hearing the stars singing
Whispering songs of love to me
Multi colors rush through my mind
Wonderful feeling this is

I'm free as a bird I'm drifting
The waves take me out to nowhere
Calm silence catches my heart beat

*repeat x 2

Never Ever
I am me and you are only you
We live our different lives
But still the same vision

All the same, what shape and size we are
We keep on moving on
That's what life's all about

I see flowers bloom by your size
And waiting for the sun
It is the sign of hope image of our fate

Sun sets where ever you may be
And rising up again
But the sun I see only sits in dark space lighting up your world

Break the silence I'm feeling deep inside
Shooting stars will light our worlds apart
Wishing we can be together you and me as one forever

I want to change the seasons on the move
Want to smell the rain changing into snow
Everything I want to do with you is still in the future

This moment in time be my dream keeper

Sora ni mau hanabira tooku de hibiku aoi nami no ne
Fui ni shinjirareru kono sekai ni afureru inochi

Itsuka I wanna be by your side yo te wo hiroge
Kusano ue de kaze wo atsumete
Komorebito sunshower sou kanpeki na
Ichinichi ga heiwa ga zutto tsuzuku youni

*Yubi ni furete ita ikara zutto soba ni ita ikara
Te wo tsunaide iru dake de kanjirareru
Futari ga tsunagatteru koto subete ga mimamotteru koto
Hakana sa no ue ni saita shiawase wo sumuiteyuku

Sou mirai e

*repeat

Fly!
You take me
Take my hand now
Way up high above the sky so high
I'm feeling good
I'm feeling fresh in the clear crispy air

I reach out
Grab my hand now
You get the sky
and dive into the blue
I'm gonna breathe
I'm gonna smile and the happiness spread

*We can make it real if we try
Believe we can fly and high

Drifting the clouds
Moving the stars and
Reaching (the) moon
It's passing all shiny rays
Release me free from gravity and fly away

Nature's exploding
Flowers are blooming
(The) waves are singing
Walking the clouds and the moon
You pull me up all the way
We're making a brand new escape

With me now
Take a step now
Out to the world never seen before
You make me smile
You make me laugh and the happiness spreads

Jump up high
And way up high
I catch the sky and dive into the blue
I'm feeling good
I'm feeling love in the clear crispy air

*repeat

Lunk
07-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Ok, the two voices, combined and played back in any way, I can believe

Also, here is the reason why Lumi doesn't look COMPLETELY like Rachel Rhodes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJLXClKq40

I think they made the CG version of Lumi, just when the girls sing, they transfer it into her face...

Seems good enough, doesn't it?

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 10:28 PM
There's only one model too. You have to remember that Heavenly Star was probably shot when Rachel was 13/14. She's older now. And the model in the PVs are NOT Asian looking at all. It's not hard to tell that it's Rachel at all! She's obviously the model. Only having a few photos of her as Rachel and having 4 videos and a booklet of photos of her as Lumi can't change that.

Yeah.. I know that each PV was shot at different time frames..

And did you just say that none of the models (RR or not) look Asian? lol Then what ethnicity/race do you think they look like then?

ALL of them look Asian--except Rachel Rhodes herself--looks half imo.

zeopower6
07-05-2008, 10:33 PM
Wha?

They look like they're mixed. Asian and Caucasian.

Nami Miyahara looks completely Asian [and is like, 30 years old]~


tbh, their filming methods seem really simple. They took Rachel Rhodes, put her in a white outfit [or of some other easily edited color] and filmed her in a studio with a green-screen. They edited all of the special effects stuff into the green screen as well as the color of her clothing using whatever software they have. Then they'd apply some sort of filter onto LUMI to have her have that distinct overly contrasted look, and there you have it. :\

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 10:33 PM
Ok, the two voices, combined and played back in any way, I can believe

Also, here is the reason why Lumi doesn't look COMPLETELY like Rachel Rhodes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJLXClKq40

I think they made the CG version of Lumi, just when the girls sing, they transfer it into her face...

Seems good enough, doesn't it?

Possibly.. BUT.. the animations footage in that youtube link you posted doesn't even look real. Lumi in Breeze and Star Line look like real people--not X-box 360/PS3 looking.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lumi is part CGI in breeze and star line.. But for the most part, she is based on real people. And like you said.. The face especially.

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 10:36 PM
Wha?

They look like they're mixed. Asian and Caucasian.

Nami Miyahara looks completely Asian [and is like, 30 years old]~


eh? Who looks "mixed?" You think "Lumi" looks mixed EuroAsian?.. And I do agree, that make up and hairstyle do make the difference..


Although.. I don't think we will ever know 100% for sure If all the models in all the PVS are the same--and not edited to have more than characteristics of one person via CGI.. Unless they say so.

Lunk
07-05-2008, 10:38 PM
That demo was only a video game character! Have you seen the "I Love Lucy" commercial? That advertised pharmaceutics? That was all edited from the original show. By that company.

So, they can mix them together and use facial expression computers to make them sing, and in turn, be able to have their models have 3D effects like in Breeze, and Star Line!

zeopower6
07-05-2008, 10:56 PM


LUMI's look remains the same throughout, with subtle styling changes. :\ Also, after Heavenly Star, they seemed to start to add a weird tint to her skin color in when editing the film.. D:

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 10:58 PM


LUMI's look remains the same throughout, with subtle styling changes. :\ Also, after Heavenly Star, they seemed to start to add a weird tint to her skin color in when editing the film.. D:

LIES!

j/k

Seems like in all the videos--she's black and white.. except for the gray/purple tint you mentioned in breeze and star line. I guess she does look a little bit half asian in the star line vid.. but IMO she looks 100% in heavenly star and breeze..

If all the models in all the vids really are Rachel Rhodes.. She sure as hell looks different in every video.. Q entertainment and RR as I'd like to say is..

Mind fucking us all! lol

So do you also think the girl in the beginning of the "world premiere video" is RR? Damn.. "Lumi" in Breeze reminds me of a girl I used to kindergarten crush on--in 8th grade..

zeopower6
07-05-2008, 11:07 PM
What do you mean all the videos? LOL.

There's only three. Heavenly Star was released way back when and Breeze/Star Line are the most recent. She also has the tint to make it look like real skin in the concert live as well. So that means that they went in a different direction with her look after Heavenly Star's PV was created.

The character Lumi does not look 100% Asian at all. o_o You must not see many Asians LOL.

Lunk
07-05-2008, 11:11 PM
You know what, how about we do what I do and not focus on who the singer is, how they made the videos and all that crap, and just enjoy the music and look at the stars and continue to wonder.

That's what I do anyways, I dunno about you :P

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 11:16 PM
What do you mean all the videos? LOL.

There's only three. Heavenly Star was released way back when and Breeze/Star Line are the most recent. She also has the tint to make it look like real skin in the concert live as well. So that means that they went in a different direction with her look after Heavenly Star's PV was created.

The character Lumi does not look 100% Asian at all. o_o You must not see many Asians LOL.

Don't assume I'm some kind of hick--who has never seen an Asian in his life. You don't even know me to jump to conclusions about my personal life.
Everywhere I grew up and lived in--I was surrounded with Asians. And the city I live in--the majority of the population is dominated by oriental Asians in number.

And don't try to make your opinions as matter of fact and shove it down our throats please. Whether she looks 100% Asian or not in the cgi videos--is a matter of personal opinion.

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 11:17 PM
You know what, how about we do what I do and not focus on who the singer is, how they made the videos and all that crap, and just enjoy the music and look at the stars and continue to wonder.

That's what I do anyways, I dunno about you :P

I agree. I think we all took it a bit out of line. I apologize.

Lunk
07-05-2008, 11:19 PM
Thank you :3

Now, about the lyrics, they seem to know a lot about Astronomy and are definitely experts at poetic writing along with song writing :3

zeopower6
07-05-2008, 11:28 PM
And don't try to make your opinions as matter of fact and shove it down our throats please. Whether she looks 100% Asian or not in the cgi videos--is a matter of personal opinion.

But she ISN'T 100% Asian. It's obvious. D:

About the lyrics: I wonder if they wrote them in Japanese first or something, since they really don't make much sense [at least, most of the album tracks..] They also made a lot of typos in the final version of the booklet [LIVE EART, shinny, boarders.. etc]~

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1403/lumilivezz7.gif
It must've been really awkward modeling for a hologram. D:

Lunk
07-05-2008, 11:33 PM
They might have, or they were just not good at English. Either way, I think they have delivered the same message: Love others, love the earth, love yourself, and love everything around you.

:3

heavenlystar08
07-05-2008, 11:43 PM
But she ISN'T 100% Asian. It's obvious. D:

About the lyrics: I wonder if they wrote them in Japanese first or something, since they really don't make much sense [at least, most of the album tracks..] They also made a lot of typos in the final version of the booklet [LIVE EART, shinny, boarders.. etc]~

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1403/lumilivezz7.gif
It must've been really awkward modeling for a hologram. D:

I NEVER said that Rachel Rhodes is 100% Asian! In fact I said at least 2-3 times that she doesn't look 100% In my opinion. What I said was that--in the heavenly star, and breeze vid, "Lumi" or RR or whoever else models looks 100% Asian, to me.

I don't think any of us know with 100% certainty if all the models in the videos and album art pics is Rachel Rhodes. For all we know--it could be a mixture of her and the other singer. Other than the make-up and hairstyle differences, for all we could assume.. There could have been some CGI editing in between that was completely made up--or borrowed from more than one model.

Anyway, thats what I'm speculating in my opinion, and I'm leaving it to that.

zeopower6
07-05-2008, 11:47 PM
I NEVER said that Rachel Rhodes is/was 100% Asian!

I never said she was either. :o -talking about Lumi-

heavenlystar08
07-06-2008, 05:58 AM
Oh look.. Apparently Lumi left us a message

http://www.genkirockets.com/topics/

spankyjones
07-06-2008, 06:14 AM
Oh look.. Apparently Lumi left us a message

http://www.genkirockets.com/topics/

Aww, cute message. I chuckled at the "feel our GENKI" part.

zeopower6
07-06-2008, 07:08 AM
I kinda figured out how they got Lumi's name btw. :o

ローズ・レイチェル - Rozu, Reicheru [Rachel Rhodes]
宮原 永海 -> みやはら なみ - Miyahara Nami

Seems like they made it from the last syllables of their first names!

CUTE. It looks like they had Lumi "at" the live in the Shibuya Apple Store on the release date. 600 people attended.


Also, the album will be released on the iTunes store all over the world in 22 countries in mid-August.

heavenlystar08
07-06-2008, 07:39 AM
I kinda figured out how they got Lumi's name btw. :o

ローズ・レイチェル - Rozu, Reicheru [Rachel Rhodes]
宮原 永海 -> みやはら なみ - Miyahara Nami

Seems like they made it from the last syllables of their first names!

CUTE. It looks like they had Lumi "at" the live in the Shibuya Apple Store on the release date. 600 people attended.


Also, the album will be released on the iTunes store all over the world in 22 countries in mid-August.

I had a feeling in the back of my mind that they wouldn't give all the credit to RR... Maybe Lumi really is a combination of the two... Appearance wise too maybe. What do you guys think?

I hope not.

zeopower6
07-06-2008, 07:45 AM
Well, their crediting both of them as the vocals in Genki Rockets sort of proves it, however in image, I don't think Nami Miyahara is involved in that. Seems like she's strictly vocals.

In one of her PVs where she sings for freeTEMPO, she sings and there's a girl who is in the entire music video so.. :\

heavenlystar08
07-06-2008, 09:11 AM
Well, their crediting both of them as the vocals in Genki Rockets sort of proves it, however in image, I don't think Nami Miyahara is involved in that. Seems like she's strictly vocals.

In one of her PVs where she sings for freeTEMPO, she sings and there's a girl who is in the entire music video so.. :\

I don't want to sound selfish but.. I hope not. Not that Nami isn't pretty--cause she sure isn't bad looking in my eyes.. But--other than both of them lending their voices for GR, the more real "Lumi" is--the better imo. Besides the fact that.. RR happens to be closer to Lumi's age then Nami's..

But if Lumi really does happen to be a fused version of RR and NM, then I'd have to say Lumi looks great still anyway.

Anyway.. I find this to be very strange..

Thats a nice find you got there about the "Ru-Mi" name origin. I read that article earlier today before posting the site that leads to the Lumi July 2 video. Are you Japanese--because you sure seem to be good at translating lately.. Or are you using babel fish? (;

And mind posting it in Wikipedia in Genki Rocket's homepage? I added on the info about them being the two singers, as well as making a page for RR from her Japanese name (since the page for Rachel Rhodes seems to be about a female superhero vampire of some sort lol).

Lunk
07-06-2008, 04:43 PM
You know what sounds reasonable? I think they used RR as a reference for Lumi. Like, body-wise. They then took her face and edited it a little bit to make it look unique and such. So, Lumi as an image I think is CGI, with RR as an OUTLINE for her body and face a little bit. That explains why she looks so different than the actual model that people say pose for Lumi.

Now for voice, it's definitely through a vocoder, no doubt about that. It was said by Q? Entertainment before. We know who the vocalists are, and we know there are two of them, so they obviously mixed them together, and put them through a vocoder. They obviously sang of course, they were just mixed and made to sound unique. It's completely possible and easy to do. Daft punk has been doing it for years.

Examples that they are doing this is because when she was talking, she would pause for a second, and quickly start again when she was talking at the live concert. I mean, she said "The earth is moving around-*split second* slowly" This obviously isn't due to bad english, because they can make her say words fast and clear in the songs, so they obviously weren't trying now, so that's why.

Still don't believe me? Take this into account:

We are in a time and age where you cannot believe everything you hear or see, or even things you THINK. Everything is computerized and done by advanced technology. You can't look at everything on TV or real life even and say "Oh, that's 100% real, you can do that!"

Take that into account when you think "They cannot do that with Lumi! It's not possible to have THAT MUCH realistic CGI! Impossible" When, how do you know it's not possible? They may have already done this type of CGI 10 years before! For example: They had internet since the 60's! And then people thought "Oh, it's impossible! You cannot talk to the world in a blink of an eye!" Well, we can now.

So yeah, how about we do what people always do and do it now: Let's just believe what I said above, or change some of the stuff I said and believe that. Because, either way, the companies are going to come out and prove us completely wrong. XD

zeopower6
07-06-2008, 07:58 PM
Examples that they are doing this is because when she was talking, she would pause for a second, and quickly start again when she was talking at the live concert. I mean, she said "The earth is moving around-*split second* slowly" This obviously isn't due to bad english, because they can make her say words fast and clear in the songs, so they obviously weren't trying now, so that's why.

Well, during the concert, they simply play the song over the speakers, so the voice thing isn't an issue there. The pausing thing is kinda weird, but it's been like that for a while, even in the new message video [http://www.genkirockets.com/topics/out_official.swf]. I'm pretty confused as to whether or not Rachel Rhodes is fluent in English.. perhaps she was born in North Carolina but moved over when she was a kid?


Take that into account when you think "They cannot do that with Lumi! It's not possible to have THAT MUCH realistic CGI! Impossible" When, how do you know it's not possible? They may have already done this type of CGI 10 years before! For example: They had internet since the 60's! And then people thought "Oh, it's impossible! You cannot talk to the world in a blink of an eye!" Well, we can now.

Calm down now. It's not that impressive nor is it that realistic. :| They used a recording of Al Gore with the holograms as well, it was all prerecorded.

heavenlystar08
07-06-2008, 08:50 PM
Well.. one thing I'm pretty sure now is.. That RR and only her must have been the only model for Heavenly Star. Since the actual footage (between the rendered drawings)--doesn't seem to be edited.. except that she looks black and white. And RR's body type is very similar to Lumi's.. They're both really slim. Then again.. who knows..

For breeze and star line.. That's tough. Maybe we can try to find a bunch of pictures of the other singer and guess which of her 'body parts' could have contributed for Lumi. Also..
Can we distinguish the two parts of voices in a single, like "Heavenly Star" and determine who sings who? Perhaps those are the first steps for us to finding out who "Lumi" really is.

Nami-Miyahara's website:

http://www.nami-miyahara.com/main.html

FREE TEMPO - Dreaming feat. Nami Miyahara(music video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK33yfOioRU


zeopower6, you're right about Nami just singing in the background only.. But the girl who appears in the video--isn't singing..

pics:




The cartoon character on the right--is probably someone she voices over. She's done a couple of cartoon voice overs--including "Digimon" I believe.




And zeopower6, where did you find the "Ru-Mi" thing again?

zeopower6
07-06-2008, 09:44 PM
You got a photo of someone that isn't Nami Miyahara XD~ [It says Hiromi, she just had the same last name which is why she appeared in the Google Images search. @_@]~

I thought of the Ru-Mi -> Lumi thing when I was thinking of their names, and they usually do that when they name people in Japan. D: Someone stated that Qchannel stated that Genki Rockets was made specifically for Lumines and thus her name came from Lumines, but I don't think that's true... since the whole Lumi story wasn't developed at that time, I think..

If you want to find pictures of Nami, go to her blog. XD
http://www.nami-miyahara.com/blog/

And the character is from the anime version of the Powerpuff Girls.. Demashita!! Powerpuff Girls Z! XD She's Bubbles.

heavenlystar08
07-06-2008, 10:23 PM
You got a photo of someone that isn't Nami Miyahara XD~ [It says Hiromi, she just had the same last name which is why she appeared in the Google Images search. @_@]~

I thought of the Ru-Mi -> Lumi thing when I was thinking of their names, and they usually do that when they name people in Japan. D: Someone stated that Qchannel stated that Genki Rockets was made specifically for Lumines and thus her name came from Lumines, but I don't think that's true... since the whole Lumi story wasn't developed at that time, I think..

If you want to find pictures of Nami, go to her blog. XD
http://www.nami-miyahara.com/blog/

And the character is from the anime version of the Powerpuff Girls.. Demashita!! Powerpuff Girls Z! XD She's Bubbles.

LOL Look again.. Do you honestly think I'd mindlessly post a pic of a person from google, without reading the info inside the website? Think again.

Save for the tan, if you can't recognize her face then go to the website:

http://home.alltel.net/nbi/seiyu.html

Scroll down about half-way down the page to find that pic.



And read the info to the right of the pic. It says...

Shouko: Miyahara Hiromi (宮原永海さん)
Miyahara Hiromi (also known as Miyahara Nami) has also performed the following roles:

* Iriina from St. Luminous
* YukkuTakku from Crayon Kingdom


She goes by more than one name. "Hiromi" could a middle name.



See the similarities now?

zeopower6
07-06-2008, 10:32 PM
This whole Nami Miyahara business is confusing. LOL

@_@

heavenlystar08
07-06-2008, 10:38 PM
This whole Nami Miyahara business is confusing. LOL

@_@

And now... we both can't say 100% for sure if "Lumi"'s outer appearance is RR only. It could be both, and/or made up of other models (psuedo or real, who knows..). I don't really see what part of Nami's body they could have put in for "Lumi" though..

I still think somewhat its RR only... But we'll find out for sure someday.

zeopower6
07-06-2008, 10:46 PM
Apparently, the Japanese people over at 2ch are saying that Fly! was mainly Miyahara's singing and that the multiple voices comes into play in each song with each of the women that are featured in the "chorus" section of the songs + Rachel + Nami.. so that could be why some songs sound different. :o

Such choral singers are:
Haruko Ohinata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg9_580zYSE) IMEEM link (http://www.imeem.com/haruko-ohinata/)
Rin Oikawa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksH6afzUQb4)
Fumie Masuko [no info on her, just that she's like a composer~]

Yes, the vocals have been figured out!

heavenlystar08
07-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Apparently, the Japanese people over at 2ch are saying that Fly! was mainly Miyahara's singing and that the multiple voices comes into play in each song with each of the women that are featured in the "chorus" section of the songs + Rachel + Nami.. so that could be why some songs sound different. :o

Such choral singers are:
Haruko Ohinata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg9_580zYSE) IMEEM link (http://www.imeem.com/haruko-ohinata/)
Rin Oikawa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksH6afzUQb4)
Fumie Masuko [no info on her, just that she's like a composer~]

Yes, the vocals have been figured out!

Nice find.. Where exactly did you find the part about the info on "Fly!" Link?

If only we could see RR singing by herself..

zeopower6
07-07-2008, 12:00 AM
I think that Never Ever and I will might be Rachel only. There's no mixed chorus in those songs so.. :B~

Dr_Strangelove
07-07-2008, 01:38 AM
Just in case, the "at full force" thing was a throwback to a certain meme involving applemilk1988. Google it and EncyclopediaDramatica (NSFW) if you want the full story. Might be appreciated by those with a hardened enough sense of humour.

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 01:47 AM
Just in case, the "at full force" thing was a throwback to a certain meme involving applemilk1988. Google it and EncyclopediaDramatica (NSFW) if you want the full story. Might be appreciated by those with a hardened enough sense of humour.

Ughh.. I believe you.. But I'm not going to that wikipedia rip-off of a site. I've seen some dirty crap there. Makes me wonder who the administrators are..

Dr_Strangelove
07-07-2008, 01:50 AM
Ughh.. I believe you.. But I'm not going to that wikipedia rip-off of a site. I've seen some dirty crap there. Makes me wonder who the administrators are..

In this case you might have a laugh out of it. Not a OMG TITTIES laugh, but some more of a fremdsch�m laugh, if you know what I mean.

zeopower6
07-07-2008, 02:20 AM
I think it's funny that applemilk ended up as a gravure model in Japan. :|

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-07-2008, 04:11 AM
helloes ppl im new, and i shamelessy use free download links, like, all the time. sad 1 i know, but.....im broke....but I LOVE GENKI ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that being said, i think RR is a motion model for lumi, but they use her face along with some digitised parts to create the end product.

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 04:41 AM
In this case you might have a laugh out of it. Not a OMG TITTIES laugh, but some more of a fremdsch�m laugh, if you know what I mean.

yeah.. I can't believe I saw that.. encylopedia dramatica is the haven for trolls--right after 4chan.

Lunk
07-07-2008, 04:43 AM
helloes ppl im new, and i shamelessy use free download links, like, all the time. sad 1 i know, but.....im broke....but I LOVE GENKI ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that being said, i think RR is a motion model for lumi, but they use her face along with some digitised parts to create the end product.

I agree with this theory.

It seems reasonable! I'm serious! :O

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-07-2008, 04:45 AM
((quote)) yeah.. I can't believe I saw that.. encylopedia dramatica is the haven for trolls--right after 4chan. ((end quote))

sorry im a noob and i cant quote........


hey heavenlystar 08, i , like, dont know u but i saw this really gross thing on Encyclopaedia Dramatica...plz dont go there anymore

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-07-2008, 04:53 AM
I agree with this theory.

It seems reasonable! I'm serious! :O

i know! cuz ive been going over the PVs for idk....3 months now? and ive been pausing and zooming in on her face and comparing it to the other PV's.
for example, in star line,
her hair is longer & thicker than in breeze yet her hair retains the thickness, but not the length in the HS PV....

dilemma...

im so new..it sickens me...

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-07-2008, 04:58 AM
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR the baka PV for breeze doesnt work!!!!!!

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH i will kill windows media player....am i that much of a noob?

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 07:18 AM
i know! cuz ive been going over the PVs for idk....3 months now? and ive been pausing and zooming in on her face and comparing it to the other PV's.
for example, in star line,
her hair is longer & thicker than in breeze yet her hair retains the thickness, but not the length in the HS PV....

dilemma...

im so new..it sickens me...

No doubt.. There must be something "aritificial" about Lumi.. But you gotta realize one thing at least.. All the videos were taken at different times.. Dur?

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 07:23 AM
I agree with this theory.

It seems reasonable! I'm serious! :O

What theory? The theory about being too broke to buy music, thus fishing the web for GR music and downloading their music illegally instead of buying their music, or ThemPussycatsIsQuick's theory of RR(har har you biters are using my abbreviation of a nickname for Rachel Rhodes!!) being a mere motion model for Lumi?

For some reason.. I feel like its the latter.. Although--I'm sure all of us has done Theory A.. If you can even call it a theory (;

Meidara
07-07-2008, 11:17 AM
Interesting! And here I was totally convinced that her speaking voice sounded remarkably like Yuna Ito. I'm really interested in the newer songs that aren't at all electronica; I'm honestly willing to bet that songs like "never ever" were sung by just one person, and thus probably was sung by Rachel. Fly! sounded nothing like Lumi, so I have to attribute it to Nami, plus the vocals sound like your standard anime OP/ED songs.

I have actually tried the frequency merge process out and found out several things:

1) it's remarkably hard to hide any overlap between the voices, especially at breath points and held notes.
2) one voice will be always dominant over the other. even mixing an already-filtered together voice 1 and voice 2 with a third voice doesn't really blend it any more.
3) if your voice has vibrato in it, it's remarkably hard to pull it off.

though I'm probably using much cheaper software than they do. *G*

Lunk
07-07-2008, 02:02 PM
What theory? The theory about being too broke to buy music, thus fishing the web for GR music and downloading their music illegally instead of buying their music, or ThemPussycatsIsQuick's theory of RR(har har you biters are using my abbreviation of a nickname for Rachel Rhodes!!) being a mere motion model for Lumi?

For some reason.. I feel like its the latter.. Although--I'm sure all of us has done Theory A.. If you can even call it a theory (;

I was actually going to buy the CD that day, and was searching for it, and found this website, and was like "Oh.... Well, fuck buying it now!"

And here I am. And yes, I was agreeing with TPCIQ's theory. It's basically everything we said, but compressed in a simple phrase.

I'm not even going to worry about what they do with Lumi's voice, because probably if we come up with a certain way, they will probably prove us wrong :P

Now I'm going to go listen to Genki Rockets. XP

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 03:33 PM
I was actually going to buy the CD that day, and was searching for it, and found this website, and was like "Oh.... Well, fuck buying it now!"

And here I am. And yes, I was agreeing with TPCIQ's theory. It's basically everything we said, but compressed in a simple phrase.

I'm not even going to worry about what they do with Lumi's voice, because probably if we come up with a certain way, they will probably prove us wrong :P

Now I'm going to go listen to Genki Rockets. XP

lol..

If play-asia took an entire weekend to ship my CD--I would have canceled my order and just downloaded the CD.. But they surprised me and shipped it 2 days after release day though..

But yeah... I'm glad I have the "physical" part.

Mehh I don't have much use of the DVD, since its region 2 for one (probably work on my laptop, but not house DVD player), and I already own most of the videos--except live earth.

But yeah.. the Album.. (:



And hhm.. About the dominant voices... I wonder who sings the most in the albums.. RR or Neima?.. Probably RR?..

Lunk
07-07-2008, 03:49 PM
Also, I don't get why people hate "Fly!" so much! It's probably my favorite song on there next to Heavenly Star and Star Surfer!

And it sounds just like Lumi, she is just taking a different approach, which is called experimenting, which I love. Genki Rockets did a great job on "Fly!" ! (Also, don't just listen to the beginning, listen to the WHOLE THING! The chorus is so addicting!)

And about Zeopower6's review on it, about it being "American" could get offensive to some people (Me) since they could be american. I know it's your opinion, but it just sounds racist to me even if it's not. It's like me saying "I hate this song, it's too Asian for me". And also, the song has a sort of "ROCK ON" feel to it :D

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 05:54 PM
Also, I don't get why people hate "Fly!" so much! It's probably my favorite song on there next to Heavenly Star and Star Surfer!

And it sounds just like Lumi, she is just taking a different approach, which is called experimenting, which I love. Genki Rockets did a great job on "Fly!" ! (Also, don't just listen to the beginning, listen to the WHOLE THING! The chorus is so addicting!)

And about Zeopower6's review on it, about it being "American" could get offensive to some people (Me) since they could be american. I know it's your opinion, but it just sounds racist to me even if it's not. It's like me saying "I hate this song, it's too Asian for me". And also, the song has a sort of "ROCK ON" feel to it :D

Who else hates it?

I'll be sure to give a listen.. When my CD comes in the mail..

Lunk
07-07-2008, 06:50 PM
Well, in the reviews on the CD and such, they say Fly isn't good because it has a sort of electronica-popish punk rock feel to it. And in the iTunes story, it's one of the least bought songs :/

And I've told my friends to listen to it, and they are like "I listened to the beginning, and it sounds not so good..." And I am always like "The beginning on it is terrible! Just listen to the whole thing! After 40 seconds it changes beat!"

So yeah...

Also:


Uniqueness

Genki Rocket is unique in that the band's music videos are almost entirely computer-generated, including the band's one and only lead fictional character, Lumi. The visual art style for the music videos are created by Japan's Glamoove, Inc, and was inspired by Norwegian band, a-ha's "Take on Me" music video.[6][7] They are also unique in solely using holograms for live performances, such as their performance at Live Earth.[8]

It was recently revealed in the credits section of Genki Rocket's latest full Album, 元気ロケッツ I - Heavenly Star -, that Reicheru Rozu (or Rachel Rhodes) and Nami Miyahara are the singers for the fictional lead singer, Lumi. [9] Rachel Rhodes is also the cover model in the Heavenly Star, Breeze, and Star Line videos, and is also featured in the album art pages of the Genki Rockets I - Heavenly Star-! album. [10]

COVER MODEL is different from MODEL! This means, for SURE, that Rachel is only the COVER MODEL (As in, ON THE COVER AND ALBUM ART ONLY) and she is, infact, NOT, the actual model in the MUSIC VIDEOS! Only the MODEL ON THE COVER OF THE CD CASE!

This supports the theory on that she is just a motion model for Lumi. :3

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 08:53 PM
Well, in the reviews on the CD and such, they say Fly isn't good because it has a sort of electronica-popish punk rock feel to it. And in the iTunes story, it's one of the least bought songs :/

And I've told my friends to listen to it, and they are like "I listened to the beginning, and it sounds not so good..." And I am always like "The beginning on it is terrible! Just listen to the whole thing! After 40 seconds it changes beat!"


Well.. Like I said.. I'll be sure to give a listen to it when I get the CD in the mail by near end of the week.. There hasn't been a GR song I've listened.. that I haven't liked so far. What songs do they like by the way? And.. Whats your favorites?




So yeah...

Also:
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Uniqueness

Genki Rocket is unique in that the band's music videos are almost entirely computer-generated, including the band's one and only lead fictional character, Lumi. The visual art style for the music videos are created by Japan's Glamoove, Inc, and was inspired by Norwegian band, a-ha's "Take on Me" music video.[6][7] They are also unique in solely using holograms for live performances, such as their performance at Live Earth.[8]

It was recently revealed in the credits section of Genki Rocket's latest full Album, 元気ロケッツ I - Heavenly Star -, that Reicheru Rozu (or Rachel Rhodes) and Nami Miyahara are the singers for the fictional lead singer, Lumi. [9] Rachel Rhodes is also the cover model in the Heavenly Star, Breeze, and Star Line videos, and is also featured in the album art pages of the Genki Rockets I - Heavenly Star-! album. [10]
-----------------------------------------
COVER MODEL is different from MODEL! This means, for SURE, that Rachel is only the COVER MODEL (As in, ON THE COVER AND ALBUM ART ONLY) and she is, infact, NOT, the actual model in the MUSIC VIDEOS! Only the MODEL ON THE COVER OF THE CD CASE!

This supports the theory on that she is just a motion model for Lumi. :3

LOL sorry to burst your bubble of a theory.. But.. Don't expect GR wrote that Wikipedia article.. Because they didn't. And even if they didn't, how can you be so sure, 100% enough to believe the guy who typed the article?..

Everything you just quoted now in that "uniqueness" section, was written/typed by me last week, after the album was released, and with zeopower6's convincing that RR being the model of "Lumi," I too believed the same, and I edited the original article And.. By cover model--I didn't mean motion model, but just rachel rhodes represents Lumi, and no one else. In ALL the music videos and the art.



And to explain this:

"Genki Rocket is unique in that the band's music videos are almost entirely computer-generated, including the band's one and only lead fictional character, Lumi"

I didn't mean to say [Lumi] is entirely or almost completely computer-generated in the sense that Lumi is all made up.. I just meant the whole black and white, and purple tinting of her body--with the A-ha art rendering (in Heavenly Star, and it appears in Lumi's hair in Breeze and Star Line)--is computer generated. Anyway thats what I believed when I typed that.

Now, I'm not so sure..

But I have a strong feeling Lumi is mostly RR based anyway.

Edit(actually I've edited a couple times before this):

I went back to wikipedia, and logged in my account to and changed the wording so say:

"Rachel Rhodes also seems to be the cover model in the Heavenly Star, Breeze, and Star Line videos, as well as being featured in the album art pages of the Genki Rockets I - Heavenly Star-! album. [10]"

Didn't you read the comment I made with Zeopower6 a yesterday--on helping me add more info to GR's page?.. (:

P.S. I also created Rachel Rhodes (not the vampire superhero)'s wiki page...

Lunk
07-07-2008, 09:55 PM
See?! You can't trust anything anymore! XD

My favorite songs are... Well, all of them! I love them all just as much as the next!

So yeah!

heavenlystar08
07-07-2008, 10:35 PM
See?! You can't trust anything anymore! XD

My favorite songs are... Well, all of them! I love them all just as much as the next!

So yeah!

Uh.. sorry I lost your trust?... Welcome to the Real World You'll get backstabbed through life every now and then.. Although my intentions were not that of course.

What I know for sure is...

1. Looking through the black and art renderings of "Lumi"in Heavenly Star, I'm pretty damn sure its RR, and her only.

2. RR seems to have the facial features of Lumi in pretty much every image of Lumi. I don't know about the rest of her body, but they have similar body types...

3. When I saw that Lumi video that was posted last wednesday @ Genki Rocket's website a few days ago.. I'm pretty sure that was a black and white RR only--wearing a purple shirt.

other than that.. Nobody else knows who the fuck Lumi is really based on 100%. I'm just speculating...

But someday, we'll find this out..

Funny how you told us to stop focusing so much on Lumi's identity a few days ago.. And yet we're still on that subject (:

P.S. Dude... wtf do I feel like I've talked to you before?

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-08-2008, 12:00 AM
TPCIQ? your'e already giving me a nickname? well, i cant blame you, my username is impossibly long...what was i thinking?...anywayz, i dont have to mooch off the internetz anymore...im getting the CD. but from now until then, i am a shameful moocher..GR does'nt deserve this.

also, i thought of another theory. what if Nami Miyahara does only the voice for the japanese lyrics? and the voice, almost in every case, sounds vocoded.
therefore my theory is that if they got the 2 singers together, one sings the song in 3 different pitches, the other does the same, and they synthesize it through themselves... that is possible, isnt it?

what i mean to say is: (RR's voice)
high pitch-------\*****
middle pitch-----****** END PRODUCT???????
low pitch--------/*****

how does that sound? i will understand if you need more explanation. this diagram sucks.

Lunk
07-08-2008, 12:09 AM
Uh.. sorry I lost your trust?... Welcome to the Real World You'll get backstabbed through life every now and then.. Although my intentions were not that of course.

What I know for sure is...

1. Looking through the black and art renderings of "Lumi"in Heavenly Star, I'm pretty damn sure its RR, and her only.

2. RR seems to have the facial features of Lumi in pretty much every image of Lumi. I don't know about the rest of her body, but they have similar body types...

3. When I saw that Lumi video that was posted last wednesday @ Genki Rocket's website a few days ago.. I'm pretty sure that was a black and white RR only--wearing a purple shirt.

other than that.. Nobody else knows who the fuck Lumi is really based on 100%. I'm just speculating...

But someday, we'll find this out..

Funny how you told us to stop focusing so much on Lumi's identity a few days ago.. And yet we're still on that subject (:

P.S. Dude... wtf do I feel like I've talked to you before?

First, what does "XD" look like to you. Look at it from the side. It's a fucking smiley. I'm LAUGHING! I'M KIDDING! I said "See?! You can't trust anything anymore" in a PLAYFUL manner! Geez, no one notices humor or sarcasm anymore...

And I did say to stop focusing on Lumi, but look at where you guys brought us! I was focusing on the lyrics then and some people came in discussing the physical traits and I didn't want to feel left out so I went "Meh, whatever" and joined in...

And TPCIQ, you're theory is pretty much right in my opinion. That function is exactly what a vocoder is FOR. A vocoder was designed to copy voice and vocal patterns and repeat them back in other ways. As in, you could have someone say "Hello" and have them use just THOSE vocal patterns to say "Hello, I am (so and so) and I work with the phone company, how are you?"

So if they sang in different pitches, and used a vocoder, they could use those different voice patterns and have "Lumi" say anything they wanted, including singing. Of course, it takes days, weeks, and even monthes to do, but the end result is what you literally see in Genki Rockets' songs.

I'm probably going to buy Genki Rocket's CD sometime in the future, when I get money (I currently just told my parents to cut off plans for buying the CD, that I found it online, and I'm getting a video game instead...)

And also, if you've been on youtube talking about Genki Rockets videos in the comments heavenlystar08, then you might have come across "Link740" which is me.

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 12:29 AM
First, what does "XD" look like to you. Look at it from the side. It's a fucking smiley. I'm LAUGHING! I'M KIDDING! I said "See?! You can't trust anything anymore" in a PLAYFUL manner! Geez, no one notices humor or sarcasm anymore...

And I did say to stop focusing on Lumi, but look at where you guys brought us! I was focusing on the lyrics then and some people came in discussing the physical traits and I didn't want to feel left out so I went "Meh, whatever" and joined in...

And TPCIQ, you're theory is pretty much right in my opinion. That function is exactly what a vocoder is FOR. A vocoder was designed to copy voice and vocal patterns and repeat them back in other ways. As in, you could have someone say "Hello" and have them use just THOSE vocal patterns to say "Hello, I am (so and so) and I work with the phone company, how are you?"

So if they sang in different pitches, and used a vocoder, they could use those different voice patterns and have "Lumi" say anything they wanted, including singing. Of course, it takes days, weeks, and even monthes to do, but the end result is what you literally see in Genki Rockets' songs.

I'm probably going to buy Genki Rocket's CD sometime in the future, when I get money (I currently just told my parents to cut off plans for buying the CD, that I found it online, and I'm getting a video game instead...)

And also, if you've been on youtube talking about Genki Rockets videos in the comments heavenlystar08, then you might have come across "Link740" which is me.

Yeah.. I had a feeling it was you since you like posting the ":3" so much. But couldn't you see I wasn't really mad at you either (at least in this forum). Thats why I "smilied" in the end too.

And..

Don't blame us (zeopower6 and I. speaking of him, where the fuck is he in this conversation? lol) kept talking about who "Lumi" is. Like you said.. You joined in the conversation, and that was entirely voluntary from you...

Anyway.. According to some of the extended Breeze Music Videos( the ones that cap over 4 minutes, where she speaks in English and Japanese on a white background before the song actually starts) uploaded on youtube it seems that RR knows how to speak Japanese. Although imo she doesn't even seem to sound as english is her "first language" does she?... What d you guys think? Especially in that July 2 video on their site.. heh GR is totally mind fucking us LMAO!

But yeah.. I'm betting the other singer knows more Japanese then her. Man will we ever know damn... But part of GR's secret is out anyway.. We know the singers, we know Lumi is part "RR" at least.. And we're so damn obssessive about it, that we can never end the theories lol! (;

Anyway.. What do you guys hope for.. Do you want Lumi to be 100% RR, or what?

I guess I'll be leaked someday..

And man.. I'm totally LOLing right now at what both of you guys are sayin. Are you guys really gonna buy the album? Do you guys feel guilty for downloading the album inconventially or something? heh damn I still can't believe I choosed to wait so long for the album--instead of downloading it.. heh. But if my copy was sent out later.. I would have totally canceled it and just downloaded the torrent. (:

Anyway.. I'm still looking for that official extended breeze mp3. I'm not desperate enough to buy an import copy of the first Breeze vinyl single for $10.00 just to get that track, when I already have the other 2 remixes along with it(Kaskade, and I'll get the "star breeze" from metalmouse when I get the album..

P.S. Zeopower6, if you are reading this.. I hope you can still get that track from someone you know.. If not.. I guess ripping the preview of "Breeze Extended" from their myspace:

www.myspace.com/genkirockets

will do...

I'll just cut the intro out via windows movie maker, and stick it before the regular breeze track starts.. and publish them into one music track. (:

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 01:15 AM
I was at college orientation, I'm a freshman! XD

Anyways, I don't think Rachel Rhodes is fluent in English judging from how Lumi talks. Unless she's like "fake talking" like a person who isn't fluent.. which is pretty hard to do if you ask me without sounding like an idiot.


So if they sang in different pitches, and used a vocoder, they could use those different voice patterns and have "Lumi" say anything they wanted, including singing. Of course, it takes days, weeks, and even monthes to do, but the end result is what you literally see in Genki Rockets' songs.


In order for a vocoder to work, you need whatever you want said to be said. That's how many of Perfume/capsule/Yasutaka Nakata's works are made.. they sing the lyrics and run it through a vocoder and auto-tune. Look it up if you have to. You can't just be like "I'm gonna edit this to be like someone's voice using a small sample of their voice!" I think that's a different program... something very similar to the VOCALOID system in Japan.

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 01:23 AM
I was at college orientation, I'm a freshman! XD

Anyways, I don't think Rachel Rhodes is fluent in English judging from how Lumi talks. Unless she's like "fake talking" like a person who isn't fluent.. which is pretty hard to do if you ask me without sounding like an idiot.



In order for a vocoder to work, you need whatever you want said to be said. You can't just be like "I'm gonna edit this to be like someone's voice using a small sample of their voice!" I think that's a different program... something very similar to the VOCALOID system in Japan.


Yeah I agree somewhat... Although I'll have to look at the two videos with her voice again..

So whats the verbatum? Do you think you can get the Extended Breeze from your "friend." I don't mind if you rip it from their myspace page and just stick it in the beginning with your haxor skills.. As long as you can do it! (:

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 01:33 AM
I don't think he'll rip it. PLUS I think he has the one without the Extended mix. D:

Anyways, I made it myself and it sounds okay. Just really low quality. :[ :[~ :[~
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2B1ABY3U
http://www.mediafire.com/?s1zujx9bnxy


REMEMBER THIS IS NOT REAL, IT IS NOT REAL!!! D:

IT IS FANMADE!

I really don't want anyone downloading it and being like "WTF."


helloes ppl im new, and i shamelessy use free download links, like, all the time. sad 1 i know, but.....im broke....but I LOVE GENKI ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that being said, i think RR is a motion model for lumi, but they use her face along with some digitised parts to create the end product.

Sorry, but I think you're wrong. D: Her dress/clothing is all that's edited usually. In photoshoots its all usually white, but in PVs/video, it's like 352340234 colors. Obviously, they digitize her dress after filming her on green screen and that's about it. Qentertainment probably doesn't have the money to do "amazing" motion capture, as that would be EXTREMELY expensive and not worth it.

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 02:43 AM
I don't think he'll rip it. PLUS I think he has the one without the Extended mix. D:

Anyways, I made it myself and it sounds okay. Just really low quality. :[ :[~ :[~
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2B1ABY3U
http://www.mediafire.com/?s1zujx9bnxy


REMEMBER THIS IS NOT REAL, IT IS NOT REAL!!! D:

IT IS FANMADE!

I really don't want anyone downloading it and being like "WTF."

How low is the quality exactly? I won't be able to listen to it--not for a couple of hours, until I get back home (I'm at school).

And are you sure he doesn't have it?.. Did you ask?


Sorry, but I think you're wrong. D: Her dress/clothing is all that's edited usually. In photoshoots its all usually white, but in PVs/video, it's like 352340234 colors. Obviously, they digitize her dress after filming her on green screen and that's about it. Qentertainment probably doesn't have the money to do "amazing" motion capture, as that would be EXTREMELY expensive and not worth it.

How low is the quality exactly? I won't be able to listen to it--not for a couple of hours, until I get back home (I'm at school).

And are you sure he doesn't have it?.. Did you ask?


And.. Now that you mention it.. GR isn't exactly a big company with a big budget--thats something I agree with also. Although.. I heard the record label that GR signed up with--have contracts with really popular well-known asian artists.

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 02:45 AM
How low is the quality exactly? I won't be able to listen to it--not for a couple of hours, until I get back home (I'm at school).

And are you sure he doesn't have it?.. Did you ask?

It's all pretty much the same quality as the rip on myspace. I equalized the audio.

And avex trax has a lot of money, but they save it for their better artists. Like Ayumi Hamasaki [my #1 favorite artist. Her latest tour cost like 2.6 billion yen to produce, and she has some of the most expensive music videos ever.. 100 million yen for one PV.. @_@] Most, if not all the time, they spend way less on their minor artists though. Plus, avex just has them on the record label. I don't think anything is made through them like the artists that are actually on their label. [Like, Namie Amuro is distributed by avex, but is managed by Vision Factory, so nothing is really up to avex]~ Like see how there's a GenkiRockets.com that's separate from http://avexnet.or.jp/genki ? That's a sign that they're not really owned by avex.


And about Zeopower6's review on it, about it being "American" could get offensive to some people (Me) since they could be american. I know it's your opinion, but it just sounds racist to me even if it's not. It's like me saying "I hate this song, it's too Asian for me". And also, the song has a sort of "ROCK ON" feel to it

The song is meant to be J-pop, aka released to Japanese people and for Japanese people to listen to. It's very American in the intro, but turns very Japanese-ish afterwards. Jeez. Plus, it's really impossible for American music to sound Japanese. D= Don't really see why it's a problem to say it. Songs can be really Chinese or really Japanese or really Korean, so why not American-ish? Plus that's just my opinion @_@.

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-08-2008, 06:26 AM
The song is meant to be J-pop, aka released to Japanese people and for Japanese people to listen to. It's very American in the intro, but turns very Japanese-ish afterwards. Jeez. Plus, it's really impossible for American music to sound Japanese. D= Don't really see why it's a problem to say it. Songs can be really Chinese or really Japanese or really Korean, so why not American-ish? Plus that's just my opinion @_@.

the most probable reason is for it sounding japanese one moment or american the next is because (this is assuming RR is the dominant voice) Rachel Rhodes herself is japanese/american...

also, has anyone seen the little mole on Lumi's neck in the Star Line PV? like near the end where she's singing above the planet? (its most prominent at that part)

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 06:31 AM
That doesn't change a thing, you know. o_o

You could be half Japanese and half American and still speak perfect English or Japanese. If you were born in Japan, it's less likely you will be able to speak well though. See the German-American Eiji Wentz of WaT who lives in a family of German-Americans that live in Japan... he is the only one who does not know English at all. D:

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 07:09 AM
It's all pretty much the same quality as the rip on myspace. I equalized the audio.



.

Ok, I'm listening to it right now, and I don't see a huge difference..

is the "Myspace" quality only on the extra 40 seconds.. Or did you equalize it to the "myspace quality" through the entire song?

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 08:43 AM
I dunno, it should be equal volume. The myspace quality is supposed to be the first 40 or so seconds, but I think that the program I used lowered the quality in general..

There was a huge difference before. D:

http://www.genkirockets.com/topics/out_tanabata.swf

New Lumi message. FISH EYE LENS ANYONE. D:

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 09:14 AM
I dunno, it should be equal volume. The myspace quality is supposed to be the first 40 or so seconds, but I think that the program I used lowered the quality in general..

There was a huge difference before. D:

http://www.genkirockets.com/topics/out_tanabata.swf

New Lumi message. FISH EYE LENS ANYONE. D:

I forgot to say that I just listened to it.. and I actually didn't hear a difference really whatsover.. The first 40 seconds preview sounds good, and after that.. it matches the quality (and volume) of my own breeze mp3. (:

and.. wth. I don't get the new message by Lumi.. Are you talking about the camera lens--because it looks the same as the one on July 2nd..

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 09:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata

Seems like Lumi is celebrating too early.

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 09:23 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata

Seems like Lumi is celebrating too early.

What do you mean--too early? U talking about the 7th lunar month of the Japanese lunisolar calender aka the Tanabata festival?...

Isn't it today, 7/8/2008?

Who knows.. When she made that vid, yesterday.. It was most likely July 8th in Japan anyway.. Japan's times are several hours ahead of U.S.

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-08-2008, 09:37 AM
has anyone noticed lumi's mole???????? i was looking at pics of RR and i cant see it anywhere.....this just might prove the different models theory...unless GR put it in just to make Lumi unique....serious mind fucking here!!!!

theres a new lumi message??

im getting off topic.....so there are 2 stars that can only meet on this day? well then, which stars? there are a lot, you know....maybe its impossible to tell!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand maybe one of us (heavenlystar08) should start a new thread on the "LUMI" topic..oodles of fun to be had there.

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 09:41 AM
has anyone noticed lumi's mole???????? i was looking at pics of RR and i cant see it anywhere.....this just might prove the different models theory...unless GR put it in just to make Lumi unique....serious mind fucking here!!!!

theres a new lumi message??

Where does "Lumi" have a mole. In what video? That doesn't prove that there are different models..

The "mole" could be some glitch or drawing error on the video.. Or it could be real.. If not on the other ones.. They could have been edited.. And for the new Lumi message.. go to Zeopower's second to last message.

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 10:15 AM
What do you mean--too early? U talking about the 7th lunar month of the Japanese lunisolar calender aka the Tanabata festival?...

Isn't it today, 7/8/2008?

Who knows.. When she made that vid, yesterday.. It was most likely July 8th in Japan anyway.. Japan's times are several hours ahead of U.S.

It was posted on 7/7/08, which is a month before the "actual" tanabata on 8/7/08.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbTItiQO5d8
Seems she's fluent here. Maybe they told her to stop talking well. D:

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-08-2008, 10:35 AM
Where does "Lumi" have a mole. In what video? That doesn't prove that there are different models..

The "mole" could be some glitch or drawing error on the video.. Or it could be real.. If not on the other ones.. They could have been edited.. And for the new Lumi message.. go to Zeopower's second to last message.

if you look at the ending part of STAR LINE, where shes singing above the planet, if you look at her neck, near her collarbone, theres a mole. and it does look like it one of the models features, not a drawing error.
but hey, thats my opinion. i could be wrong.

tell me if i should start a LUMI thread. first you would have to tell me how to upload pics onto this.

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 03:08 PM
It was posted on 7/7/08, which is a month before the "actual" tanabata on 8/7/08.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbTItiQO5d8
Seems she's fluent here. Maybe they told her to stop talking well. D:

She sounds the same to me, like her 2 videos in GR..

Lunk
07-08-2008, 03:27 PM
Two pages later, and I'm still wondering why you are on the subject on HOW they make them, instead of HOW GOOD THEY ARE at singing? Or something about their music that doesn't lead to discussion on how they do it? You are going to be proven wrong anyways. They might come in and tell us that we were 98 percent right, but we'd still be 2 percent wrong.

They are just mind fucking with us, and that is their motive. They WANT to get us thinking. They want us to wonder what the heck is going on out in this world. And it's pretty much working :3

Also, do you guys do what I do, whenever Lumi says "Look up into the sky", do you actually look into the sky? I'm a person who has loved stars since he was 5, so this is normal for me, but I just realized I do it every time she says "Look up into the sky".

Do you do that to? :o

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 03:36 PM
if you look at the ending part of STAR LINE, where shes singing above the planet, if you look at her neck, near her collarbone, theres a mole. and it does look like it one of the models features, not a drawing error.
but hey, thats my opinion. i could be wrong.

tell me if i should start a LUMI thread. first you would have to tell me how to upload pics onto this.

Hmmm... Well, does the mole move with her neck?...




Anyway.. This all seems very interesting, no doubt about that. TPcIQ is going to make a thread (or he already did?) just about Lumi. Wanna move our discussion there? That is--if he provides a Link.

Anyway--I think we have a good lead in.. And I've been thinking since last night..

There seems to be 2 different fundamental sets of questions right?

1. Who is Lumi? "What entities is she made of?" Is it just RR only, or more than one model.. or maybe its also part CG too (part of actual body that is.. not the SFX)

2. Now that we pretty much know the two main singers.. Rachel Rhodes and Nami Miyahara.. Who isn't interested in knowing.. Who is the one with the dominant voice? And who sings most of the time (or equally), in each and every song?

And so thus...

I believe we should split into two teams.

The Audio Team

I believe me and Lunk will be the best candidate for the job for this. He can't help but talk about vocoders and voice synthization. And me.. I'm actually NOW more interested in this part, then the other team (which I will explain soon). I don't consider myself as an audophile, but I do think I have a keen sense of ears. I REALLY want to get to the bottom of the line of this--and find out who's sings what part in each and every song.. And then ultimately find out, who is the dominant singer (there has to be one no? Or maybe equal participation).

Now in terms of audio.. We have 4 videos already. 1 from Nami Miyahara, and 3 from RR.

1. http://www.nami-miyahara.com/main.html

Because of that link^^^ We have an idea of what her singing is like.. And it also seems like she likes singing in Japanese.. Although she's just as equally as good in English.

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbTItiQO5d8

That would be the RR breeze video (the intro at least)^^Her voice, I'm sure its RR's.. It sounds very different from Nami Miyahara's of course

3. Lumi Video #1 and #2 from GR site

http://www.genkirockets.com/topics/

This is the first close up video we have of RR (her voice at least) talking. She sounds exactly the same as the one in the breeze video.

I think you guys know where I'm going right?




and then..


The Visual Team

I honestly believe ThemPussycatsIsQuick, and Zeopower6 will do well in this catagoroy. If TPcIQ can spot a "mole" in the middle of a music video, I believe he really is on to something... And Zeopower6... He's the one who found out that.. RR, is indeed the model (or one of the models) or "Lumi." who also happens to be 1 of 2 of the major singers in this band. And he's good at taking good close up shots of "Lumi.."

Say Zeopower6, do you think you can take a pic of "Lumi" from all the GR videos.. Including the beginning video cip you just posted now of her talking in the white background? Post some pics of her in Heavenly Star, Breeze, the beginning video clip where she is talking in Breeze, Star Line, those two new Lumi Videos (7/2 and 7/7), and post them along with the 2 RR pics from the first page (from her 4springspage), and the 2 Nami Miyahara pics from page 3
Perhaps we can find visual cues about her that are in Lumi, or maybe not...


Anyway.. I gotta goo.. Be back online in 2 hours hopefully and explain a little more.. Hopefully you guys are willing to participate. I don't want it to be too big of a deal--and make us research our ass off for it.. Its just for fun (:

And if you found info on the other side of what you're currently working on.. feel free to leak. Although I think its best we should split it up into 2 seperate teams and share our info on this thread, or TPCiQ's new thread.

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 03:38 PM
Two pages later, and I'm still wondering why you are on the subject on HOW they make them, instead of HOW GOOD THEY ARE at singing? Or something about their music that doesn't lead to discussion on how they do it? You are going to be proven wrong anyways. They might come in and tell us that we were 98 percent right, but we'd still be 2 percent wrong.

They are just mind fucking with us, and that is their motive. They WANT to get us thinking. They want us to wonder what the heck is going on out in this world. And it's pretty much working :3

Also, do you guys do what I do, whenever Lumi says "Look up into the sky", do you actually look into the sky? I'm a person who has loved stars since he was 5, so this is normal for me, but I just realized I do it every time she says "Look up into the sky".

Do you do that to? :o

Personally.. I don't care about their quality of singing.. They are good.. Now I just want to know

Who "Lumi" is.. And I want to know the dominant singer--and who sings in the majority of the tracks on the album..'


will you be willing to help?

I'll try to cover the 4 first singles since I don't have the album yet.. I think I'm really on to something.. (:

and.. why did you steal my "mind fucking" catchphrase? lol? And what does looking up the sky has anything to do with this?.. She's just talking about the moon festival I bet.

Lunk
07-08-2008, 06:13 PM
Personally.. I don't care about their quality of singing.. They are good.. Now I just want to know

Who "Lumi" is.. And I want to know the dominant singer--and who sings in the majority of the tracks on the album..'


will you be willing to help?

I'll try to cover the 4 first singles since I don't have the album yet.. I think I'm really on to something.. (:

and.. why did you steal my "mind fucking" catchphrase? lol? And what does looking up the sky has anything to do with this?.. She's just talking about the moon festival I bet.

Sure, I guess... I dunno, I might... Hmm...


Who is lumi? Well: The producer (I forget japanese names, forgive me) he said basically "How do we make a 17/18 year old girl who lives 30 years in the future, has never visited earth, and creates music? Lumi was then born"

I'd just stick to that dream. After all: "Dreams are the seedlings of realities."

Who knows, there may be a Lumi in the future :3 (I'm being serious, don't respond to my stuff with "What does that have to do with anything" because it fucking fits with everything on this topic.)

Also, did NOT steal "your" mind fucking catch phrase. It's been a meme forever.

BTW, this picture is NOT Rachel Rhodes:
http://www.foursp.jp/shoma/blog/%E7%BF%94%E9%A6%AC0707%E3%83%96%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B0% E5%86%99%E7%9C%9F

It's from a blog, and the blog maker is the guy on the right, none of those people in there is RR.

And about the "looking at the sky" thing? I'm talking about the second video they released on their website! She said "Look at the sky.... Do you see me? I'm up here!"

We didn't steal "RR" or anything else from you heavenlystar08 ;)

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 08:00 PM
Sure, I guess... I dunno, I might... Hmm...


Who is lumi? Well: The producer (I forget japanese names, forgive me) he said basically "How do we make a 17/18 year old girl who lives 30 years in the future, has never visited earth, and creates music? Lumi was then born"

I'd just stick to that dream. After all: "Dreams are the seedlings of realities."

Who knows, there may be a Lumi in the future :3 (I'm being serious, don't respond to my stuff with "What does that have to do with anything" because it fucking fits with everything on this topic.)

Also, did NOT steal "your" mind fucking catch phrase. It's been a meme forever.

BTW, this picture is NOT Rachel Rhodes:
http://www.foursp.jp/shoma/blog/%E7%BF%94%E9%A6%AC0707%E3%83%96%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B0% E5%86%99%E7%9C%9F

It's from a blog, and the blog maker is the guy on the right, none of those people in there is RR.

And about the "looking at the sky" thing? I'm talking about the second video they released on their website! She said "Look at the sky.... Do you see me? I'm up here!"

We didn't steal "RR" or anything else from you heavenlystar08 ;)


Wth was that pic about that you linked.. the mindfucked one... I got that catch phrase from Wanted lol

Anyway, I was the one that brought up "mindfuck" and RR in this forum.. And people started copying me. But w/e I don't really care.

Also.. I knew you were talking about the 2nd vid in GR's homepage. I was just saying.. What does it have to do with our discussion?..

And yeah.. that pic is from a blog.. Did you google "rachel rhodes genki rockets?" And when you clicked on the pic, did you bother to scroll down the page and find and read the blog?

"LIVE EARTH is the event which appeals ecology, and that was held at 7 cities in the world, or on the earth, at the same time, at noon on July 7th.

So, today, the Star Festival♪

There were many artists who appealed for ecology through their songs.
GENKI ROCKETS, Ai Otsuka, Linkin Park, Kumi Koda, and RIHANNA for example.

Those were soooo spectacle!!
A view in all its glory♪

I went there with my party:☆Ms.Yui Koike, Ms.Rachel Rhodes, and our manager.

Many NGOs also took part in the event, and called on ecology and the conservation of nature so desperately, that I was strongly touched by thier attitude..."

http://www.foursp.jp/shoma/blog/2007/07/

So who else do you think the girl in the middle would be? Besides the blog coming from "foursprings," a company that RR is affiliated with (he is ALSO affilated with it as well. See --> http://www.foursp.jp/shoma/) The guy says he was with "Ms.Yui Koike, Ms.Rachel Rhodes, and our manager." Who else would he take pics with.. and mention in it his blog.. and post the pic himself.. By method of deduction, I'm pretty sure he, Ms. YK, and RR are in the pic--and I bet damn straight his manager is the one taking the pic. (:

I didn't believe it the first time, I googled it last week.. But when Zeopower6, brought it up.. I'm pretty damn straight sure its her in the middle. I see the resemblance.

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 09:15 PM
Well, she's got a totally different hairstyle from her usual one for Lumi. I mean, she can't go around looking like her and people are like "You look like someone I know... o_o~"

So they probably have certain styles that only Lumi has [i.e Rachel Rhodes] so that she is not identified by the Japanese public. She also seems to part her hair in the opposite way that Lumi does. Perhaps they flip the images when they record?

Also, I think you guys are just thinking too much about the "mindfuck" of the whole thing. It's pretty simple how it all works, and it's not like they're digitally making a voice or using motion capture technology.. I mean if they were, they would HAVE to credit the programs they'd used, plus they would have some sort of "MOTION CAPTURE ASSISTANT" in the credits section of the booklet with the music videos. All they credit are the producers, effects people, directors, and the camera guy. XD

Anyways, their first week was #15 on the Oricon charts.
*15 *14,935 元気ロケッツ

Pretty good sales of nearly 15,000. I was one of those sales :D~ And it's really good considering that Star Line / Smile sold like 2.2k.

And btw, Lunk, if you're going to come up with crackpot theories, at least have some sort of evidence that backs it up. o_o

As for the audio, you need to take these people into consideration:
Haruko Ohinata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg9_580zYSE) IMEEM link (http://www.imeem.com/haruko-ohinata/)
Rin Oikawa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksH6afzUQb4)
Fumie Masuko [no info on her, just that she's like a composer~]

Since they are also mixed into the vocal tracks for Genki Rockets..

Lunk
07-08-2008, 09:56 PM
And btw, Lunk, if you're going to come up with crackpot theories, at least have some sort of evidence that backs it up. o_o

Please, you say I have crackpot theories when you guys are believing something on a CD case. Genki Rockets and Q? Entertainment have said that the voice was CG, made with at least several different voice tracks combined into one, and played back. NEWS FLASH: DAFT PUNK DID IT! Heard "One More Time" ? That was using the same method they use in genki rockets. And that was made in 2000. It sounded real enough. Well, now we are in 2006 - 2008. It's very possible to replicate a voice from other female voices. We as a majority adapt and make new technological advances very rapidly and quickly, and I will give a quick example:

1961: Man goes into space.
1969: Man lands on the moon.

This was 8 years and we got a man on the moon, a feat that, before, would have taken longer, maybe dozens of years.

How does this relate to our discussion? It shows that we can do extraordinary things in a short amount of time. So, lets say, Daft Punk uses this technology in 2000. Genki Rockets uses it and perfectly perfects it in 2006/2007. It's not that hard. Don't believe the logic you learned in school, or stuff that you "think" might happen. Because, listen, what I'm saying right now, is not what I "think" is happening, I know for a fact that it's happening. How? Well, too many awesome things have happened in the history of technology, so I can't NOT believe in something amazing.

Would you really want to be stuck believing a CD case, that the company made? (Believe me, if you owned a name like Genki Rockets, would you want to release who was singing in it, and how you literally and exactly made it? I know I wouldn't so I would use a basic saying like "we used a vocoder and combined the voices" instead of giving out the whole process)

Ok, I'm done here, I'm going to go out to eat...

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 10:04 PM
Well, she's got a totally different hairstyle from her usual one for Lumi. I mean, she can't go around looking like her and people are like "You look like someone I know... o_o~"

So they probably have certain styles that only Lumi has [i.e Rachel Rhodes] so that she is not identified by the Japanese public. She also seems to part her hair in the opposite way that Lumi does. Perhaps they flip the images when they record?

Also, I think you guys are just thinking too much about the "mindfuck" of the whole thing. It's pretty simple how it all works, and it's not like they're digitally making a voice or using motion capture technology.. I mean if they were, they would HAVE to credit the programs they'd used, plus they would have some sort of "MOTION CAPTURE ASSISTANT" in the credits section of the booklet with the music videos. All they credit are the producers, effects people, directors, and the camera guy. XD

Anyways, their first week was #15 on the Oricon charts.
*15 *14,935 元気ロケッツ

Pretty good sales of nearly 15,000. I was one of those sales :D~ And it's really good considering that Star Line / Smile sold like 2.2k.

And btw, Lunk, if you're going to come up with crackpot theories, at least have some sort of evidence that backs it up. o_o

As for the audio, you need to take these people into consideration:
Haruko Ohinata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg9_580zYSE) IMEEM link (http://www.imeem.com/haruko-ohinata/)
Rin Oikawa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksH6afzUQb4)
Fumie Masuko [no info on her, just that she's like a composer~]

Since they are also mixed into the vocal tracks for Genki Rockets..



ZOMG INCOMING WALL O TEXT! D:


Yep.. Thats pretty obvious. People in music videos (musicians/models) don't usually going around having the same hairstyle or "overall look" in every single video and shoot, especially women. Its really up to the producers/directors/make-up artists, etc when it comes to their image, right? I perfectly understand why she looks different (make-up/hairstyle wise. its common sense)

Anyway I just find it really annoying that GR didn't credit to who "Lumi" is, and (they may never wil physically), we always have to second guess ourselves our instincts on who does/is what and imagine the reality, GR isn't telling us, as if it was in the form of an evil scheme. For example.. The cover for the album--is so realistic for me imo.. I don't see how that could be edited much.. It looks like one model to me.. But then--the music videos.. Damn who knows? "Lumi" really could be more than one model.. Or it could be one.. I'm even starting to have doubts if RR is the cover in Heavenly Star.. She looks really different in every video--it just makes me thing.. There has to be something CGI with Lumi, other than the lighting... Although.. I think the clip where "Lumi" starts to sing when the "mic" appears to be 100% RR.

since the videos are attached to the album, how many people have actually been credited in the music videos?.. Thats just out of curiosity btw.


So now what? What do you guys wanna talk about now?

Do you guys still want to find out who "Lumi" is or what?


I'm merely doing this because I'm bored as hell waiting for my CD (; /=

Ahhh watch my mind go tangent as I type this almost random wall of text and edit it 100 times..

But yeah its wierd how human curiosity could go so far.. Its like we just have to find out who "Lumi" is. Physically and vocally. Its like trying to find out if there is life in the universe--other than in Earth. But our "science" supposedly hasn't found ET yet.. Therefore we get the fucking Fermi Paradox.. The Ultimate mindfuck for us humans... If we humans are alone in this dark seemingly empty Universe.

The "Lumi" in breeze reminds me of someone I once knew that I had a kindergarten crush on.. But whats the point, she probably ain't real.. And its.. inb4getarealgirlfriend. lol

And even if she is real. RR or whoever the model is--is 15. I feel ashamed enough that I think Miley Cyrus looks cute.. Ehh.. And no.. I've NEVER had fantasies with either. -_-

But why couldn't the models be 18? lol

I'm really starting to hate manmade "artificial" things now. It may be our downfall /=
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EDIT:

P.S. I've been thinking.. I don't think simply think GR is "mind fucking" with us in the "who sings who" synthesizing part, as much as who "Lumi" is based on physically. In fact, I don't think its really that hard to distinguish the two (NM and RR), on who sings what part.

After listening to Heavenly Star and Breeze a couple thousand times, and trying to figure who the voices of NM and RR are in each song.. I have a hypothesis.. That based on those 2 singers voices.. I think NM is the dominant singer in Heavenly Star, and RR is the dominant singer in Breeze.. and Star Line.

I also think RR is the definitely the dominant singer in "Never Ever" (even after listening 90 second snippet).


Oh and holy crap... In Smile.. I can hear both of them singing throughout most of the sings.. So its mixed between the two. I think RR sings (no distance could far us.. take a new chance, step, talking over) the
until "united as one" starts.. I can easily tell both are singing in the same time.

I think NM sings the main chorus (smile, can't dream I'm dreaming.. nothing matters, keep on smiling, keep on going on).

Anyway, if I had the lyrics sheet in front of me--I think I could recognize who's singing who, based on their voices easily.. I think this track is easily the most recognizable way to tell which sings which part.. so far its one of the least synthesized I've heard from the 4 single0s (and for you guys--the rest of the album, besides "never ever".. I think most of us will agree that Heavenly Star is the most sythesized.. right?

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 11:33 PM
Heavenly Star had the most female vocals in it. Nami Miyahara, Rachel Rhodes, and those two other chorus women. :\

That's probably what Q meant when they were talking about making the Lumi voice all from a bunch of voices..


How does this relate to our discussion? It shows that we can do extraordinary things in a short amount of time. So, lets say, Daft Punk uses this technology in 2000. Genki Rockets uses it and perfectly perfects it in 2006/2007. It's not that hard. Don't believe the logic you learned in school, or stuff that you "think" might happen. Because, listen, what I'm saying right now, is not what I "think" is happening, I know for a fact that it's happening. How? Well, too many awesome things have happened in the history of technology, so I can't NOT believe in something amazing.

Would you really want to be stuck believing a CD case, that the company made? (Believe me, if you owned a name like Genki Rockets, would you want to release who was singing in it, and how you literally and exactly made it? I know I wouldn't so I would use a basic saying like "we used a vocoder and combined the voices" instead of giving out the whole process)

Ok, I'm done here, I'm going to go out to eat...

"Stuck believing?" The album had more information that Star Line / Smile and Heavenly Star / Breeze ever did. I'm pretty sure that they were letting us know everyone that was behind the Genki Rockets band thing. If you think it's some conspiracy, fine by me. D: This isn't something amazing! It's a medium-budgeted J-pop concept band. That's all that it is! D: Their techniques don't cost much money and just about anyone could do what they did if they had the equipment [as Q Entertainment probably does]~ :| You're making this out to be a lot more than it actually is.

The Japanese are taking this as "Oh, this girl is Lumi" and people are accepting it, so why not you too? I don't see why you have to put all these weird "lol technological leap!!!"-theories into your "speculation" about Genki Rockets. By giving us the information necessary [all vocalists involved, as well as all choral vocals], they're giving us a trail of clues that lead us to the final conclusion. If you wanna be someone that believes in something simply because they don't want to accept the truth, go right ahead. o_o

And back to the TPCiQ's saying about her "mole"... LOL. It was probably a speck on the film or something, or maybe a spot on the monitor.

About the Nami vs. Rachel things.. it seems like they're generally used equally throughout all of the tracks save for Fly!. Perhaps you could just be hearing things that you want to hear when you say that you can "totally hear both of them". I think Q generally uses them same kind of production for their works.

Listen to this "cover" of Winter Song feat. Rin Oikawa.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=us-lmVAuNwc&fmt=18

She basically sounds kinda like how Genki Rockets sounds. :\

heavenlystar08
07-08-2008, 11:35 PM
Heavenly Star had the most female vocals in it. Nami Miyahara, Rachel Rhodes, and those two other chorus women. :\

That's probably what Q meant when they were talking about making the Lumi voice all from a bunch of voices..

Its a good thing the other songs don't--rigiht?

zeopower6
07-08-2008, 11:48 PM
Well, it's probably because they wanted to make Heavenly Star groundbreaking, and thus it had as many vocalists as possible to create a more unique sound. Of course, reaction was incredible, and everyone loved it, so they made more. :\

So, Q;inc seems to be producing an entire album of Winter J-pop song covers with the very same vocoder-esque effects that Genki Rockets has. [all of the producers for Q:______ stuff are from the same people who do Genki Rockets]

See them all here:
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=QQQQQue&p=r

Q:uriosity and Q;indivi seem to all be productions of the same people behind Genki Rockets..
http://avex.jp/q_indivi/

Seems like it's pretty easy for them to produce the sound that they make. Apparently they also worked on a few songs from the Genki Rockets album..
http://www.q-ltd.com/q_cd/q_indivi/index.php [click NEWS]

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 01:03 AM
zomfgz its been a whole day sice i said anything!! shows what happens on the internet over only 1 night....and yes, heavenlystar08 is right..i am best at noticing minor details in PVs...(im tooting my own horn arent i??) but first, can someone plz tell me how to start a thread???? (im a n0ob...-_-)

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 01:15 AM
i am best at noticing minor details in PVs...

No. ._.

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 01:20 AM
zomfgz its been a whole day sice i said anything!! shows what happens on the internet over only 1 night....and yes, heavenlystar08 is right..i am best at noticing minor details in PVs...(im tooting my own horn arent i??) but first, can someone plz tell me how to start a thread???? (im a n0ob...-_-)

How long did the "mole" last, and was it moving with Lumi?

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 01:25 AM
How long did the "mole" last, and was it moving with Lumi?

its pretty simple. open the PV, and keep looking at her neck throughout the whole thing. you'll see it there, and yes it does move with her. some one tell me how to make a thread.

btw, this mole does'nt appear in heavenly star or breeze, as far a im aware...

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 01:27 AM
Seems as though because she is in UBER CONTRAST mode..

Rachel's mole pops up more easily.



We do not need another thread for discussion of just Lumi. o_o It appears because it's on Rachel's body.

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 01:31 AM
hmm..and i thought i was getting somewhere..but does it appear in breeze or heavenly star??

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 01:33 AM
Yes, it appears a lot in Breeze, but because Heavenly Star is semi-sketched out in every other frame, it doesn't show up as much.

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 01:46 AM
well.


...

well, well.

this just might prove the "one model" theory.
shall we check and see if it is on the album art?
ill get on it right now.

i suppose we will have to wait for more PVs to come out and see...

.............................EDIT

there are some GR album pics at my facebook...LINK!!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=27966&id=621248126 you can copy some, if you want. i wont sue....

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:01 AM
well.


...

well, well.

this just might prove the "one model" theory.
shall we check and see if it is on the album art?
ill get on it right now.

i suppose we will have to wait for more PVs to come out and see...

.............................EDIT

there are some GR album pics at my facebook...LINK!!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=27966&id=621248126 you can copy some, if you want. i wont sue....


I highly doubt it would.. Even if Lumi did have a mole in breeze..They could have edited out on all the other PVs..

And I tried to go to that link.. But it said something about being expired or something.


Well.. I did take a bunch of pictures of Lumi.. or RR, or whats her face in "Heavenly Star" a couple days ago.. I'll probably make a zip file out of it and post it here.

Anyway.. what side did she have the "mole?"

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:03 AM
It's on the left side of her lower neck. [if you're looking straight at her, it's on your right.]

Don't worry, I already scanned the entire album's contents at like 500DPI. D: Why do I feel like Lunk and TPCiQ are like, 12 years old? ._.

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 02:07 AM
well, if you were to stand in front of her, face to face, its on the right side. somewhere in the vicinity of her collarbone. or you could look at zeopower6's pics of RR in the wedding dress. they stand out, really..

WTF?? why are we suddenly having a conversation on lumi's mole?
suppose its something to talk about...school holidays suck. at lest im going to new zealand (PLACE OF BIRTH!!!) on friday...you wont hear from me for a whole week!

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:07 AM
It's on the left side of her lower neck. [if you're looking straight at her, it's on your right.]

Don't worry, I already scanned the entire album's contents at like 500DPI. D:

So she doesn't have it in the album pics?

Meh I'm not surprised. Its really not too huge of a deal..

Now somebody.. You, or the mole-loving RR guy.. post a montage pic of Lumi from all her videos including RR here so we can see the all the differences in the pics.. And the mole.

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:07 AM
well, if you were to stand in front of her, face to face, its on the right side. somewhere in the vicinity of her collarbone. or you could look at zeopower6's pics of RR in the wedding dress. they stand out, really..

WTF?? why are we suddenly having a conversation on lumi's mole?
suppose its something to talk about...school holidays suck. at lest im going to new zealand (PLACE OF BIRTH!!!) on friday...you wont hear from me for a whole week!

You brought it up.. Didn't you? lol

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:08 AM
Montage coming up.

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:11 AM
Montage coming up.

From all her videos. Heavenly Star, Breeze (including the pic of her talking in the beginning), Star Line, the two videos at GR's homepage.. And then the 2 RR pics in the first page.

I'd doubt we'd find a bunch of moles.. But my goal here is--to see how all the "Lumis" look in comparision. I think only a couple will do in each video.. You don't have to post 30 lol.

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 02:13 AM
You brought it up.. Didn't you? lol

haha lol. so i did.....its easy to forget things when youre on a 6-page thread..
so the facebook link is expired??? that sucks....ah well. anyway weve got a NEW THREAD for things like this.


btw, lumi thread...if ur watching..
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?p=1106219&posted=1#post1106219

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:13 AM
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I'd have more, but I'm working on something.

TPCiQ, you are an IDIOT. Do you not realize that this is the Download Links forum? ._. You might get banned for being a complete airhead. ._.

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:18 AM
I'd have more, but I'm working on something.

TPCiQ, you are an IDIOT. Do you not realize that this is the Download Links forum? ._. You might get banned for being a complete airhead. ._.

Well.. Where else would he have posted his "New thread?"

Anyway.. try not to make the pics too wide..

And if you can get some mole shots, that would be good I guess.. OH and.. remember the last montage you posted with 6 in one pic.. Post that again in this page.

But yes.. We need to find out if its 1 model, or more. (:

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:21 AM
He would make it in whatever forum there is for discussion.

I'm not really sure why he did though, since we're pretty fine here. ._.

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:25 AM
He would make it in whatever forum there is for discussion.

I'm not really sure why he did though, since we're pretty fine here. ._.

Meh.. Yeah I agree.

Anyway.. Do you think we're the only ones actively searching for who "Lumi" is.. this extensively?

Anyway.. I myself will try to post more pics from heavenly star and breeze.. I just hope we don't reach to page 7 within 4 hours.. I gotta go soon.. For class.

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:26 AM
We probably are. I tend to get really obsessive about stuff that I like, so that's probably why I'm still here talking about it.

So far everyone that knows Lumi = Rachel Rhodes is kinda just like ">[ There's no more mystique!"~

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:27 AM
We probably are. I tend to get really obsessive about stuff that I like, so that's probably why I'm still here talking about it.

Yes.. I should be doing Calculus.. lol

P.S. Do you have Aspergers?

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:32 AM
No.. why would you think that? Do YOU have Asperger's? D:?

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:34 AM
No.. why would you think that?

Aspergers tend to have obssessive qualities about something--usually one thing.

I think I have a mild form of Aspergers, and I'm probably obsessed with the net.. lol x_x

I dunno man.. Thing is.. I get bored easily.. And my attention span sucks.. hahaha

Anyway man.. I'll try to be back in 4 hours.. I got class to go.. GL guys!

The search has officially started!..

P.S. Remember when you posted.. Nami Miyahara's blog a few days ago?.. You think you could possibly contact her some way.. And ask yourself about GR..

And.. are you Japanese btw? Since you're so good at decoding the Japanese language..

anyway.. G2G! Be back like in 4 hours!

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 02:35 AM
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I'd have more, but I'm working on something.

TPCiQ, you are an IDIOT. Do you not realize that this is the Download Links forum? ._. You might get banned for being a complete airhead. ._.


oh, yes. you are really nice. i dont blame you, i am an airhead.

so judgeing from these pics, i think its safe to say that RR is definitely the main model.

i still think that there are other minor models that they fuse into the image.

maybe its just like synthesizing voices?...

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:36 AM
Aspergers tend to have obssessive qualities about something--usually one thing.

I have obsessive tendencies towards just about anything that interests me. LOL It's not specific. D=

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 02:39 AM
oh, yes. you are really nice. i dont blame you, i am an airhead.

so judgeing from these pics, i think its safe to say that RR is definitely the main model.

i still think that there are other minor models that they fuse into the image.

maybe its just like synthesizing voices?...

Yeah.. she must be.

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 02:42 AM
I have obsessive tendencies towards just about anything that interests me. LOL It's not specific. D=

i know what you mean.

sometimes i get totslly obsessed with thigs, and i usually lasts for about 2months, until something new comes along. thats why im so hard to shop for....anyway, lol...

ThemPussycatsIsQuick
07-09-2008, 02:43 AM
neway, gtg. im bored.

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 03:18 AM


O HAI MOLES.

BTW, this thread is only about as old as the album, so that's why the viewcount is low. The other threads have been alive for MONTHS!

heavenlystar08
07-09-2008, 06:06 AM


O HAI MOLES.

BTW, this thread is only about as old as the album, so that's why the viewcount is low. The other threads have been alive for MONTHS!

Aw man.. I told you guys not to reach to page 7.. Oh well


Wow.. Is that real?.. So he got it then.. Mole Boi gots it!!!!!!

And yeah.. I kinda figured.. the "other" threads got more views because of it.. Besides a bunch of remix downloads and all of the PVS...

though this special thread has the album.. And damn I can't wait for my album to come in the mail!!!! Damn if only PA sent it to me on Wednesday when it came out.. but the dbags didn't get "enough copies"


P.S. Man... the first "Lumi/RR" pic.. I dunno whether to laugh or cringe.. Its scary... seriously.. hahaha LMAO!

bluejuan85
07-09-2008, 12:25 PM
So much Genki Rockets so little time. must download but it will take forever with my slow computer but it'll be worth it.

zeopower6
07-09-2008, 02:58 PM
You could try a download accelerator or something.. maybe. D:

Anyways, it looks as though Q;indivi's album is very much alike to Genki Rockets'. Same sounds and vocal techniques used. It's really interesting.

Rubikura
07-10-2008, 06:19 AM
omg yeah, Q;indivi's album is amazing <3333

Tanaka Yusuke is the mind behind Q;indivi
and it seems he composed Heavenly Star, Breeze, and Smile

He additionally worked with:
YUKI in her song "JOY"
Koda Kumi in "Lady Go!"
and HALCALI in "Tip Taps Tip"

if you listen to all of them you'll notice some similarities O:

zeopower6
07-10-2008, 08:39 AM
I'm pretty pissed that he worked with Koda Kumi since I hate her guts, but the rest of those people make pretty good music. :o [basically, I wanna rip Koda's face off and feed it to her dog. D:]

heavenlystar08
07-10-2008, 08:42 AM
I'm pretty pissed that he worked with Koda Kumi since I hate her guts, but the rest of those people make pretty good music. :o [basically, I wanna rip Koda's face off and feed it to her dog. D:]


Why do you hate her? lol

zeopower6
07-10-2008, 09:34 AM
Why wouldn't I hate her? She's a skanky little ho. XD

heavenlystar08
07-10-2008, 09:56 AM
Why wouldn't I hate her? She's a skanky little ho. XD


Nah.. there must be more than that.. Is it how she acts?

p0llux
07-11-2008, 05:25 PM
eeeewwww Koda Kumi....

heavenlystar08
07-11-2008, 08:29 PM
eeeewwww Koda Kumi....

I don't know what you guys are talking about.. What is she--the Japanese version of Britney Spears? lol

I don't even known Koda Kumi, but when I imaged googled her.. Man she's shot! (:

zeopower6
07-12-2008, 02:22 AM
Nah, she's a big whore.

Basically, she deserves to DIAF.

heavenlystar08
07-12-2008, 02:30 AM
Nah, she's a big whore.

Basically, she deserves to DIAF.

Since when?

P.S. Man. Album still hasn't arrived.. I hope it comes tomorrow..

syntaxgenocide
07-12-2008, 05:17 AM
I've been waiting for a full length album from Genki Rockets. Thanks much for the download links. :)

heavenlystar08
07-12-2008, 10:06 AM
lol anyway.. Instead of going off tangent about some other artist..

the first pic zeopower6 posted.. The top part (from the breeze video).. LOL it still cracks me up and scares me in the same time..

In that snapshot, she looks like she has fangs(I have canines too heh).. And is telling someone off.. And for some reason, she kind of looks like a witch imo 0_o.. LMAO! J/K (;

P.S...

lol wut.. Who do you think this is.. you know who?



Looks familiar to this..



Doesn't it?

heavenlystar08
07-15-2008, 09:24 AM
Man.. Where is everybody?!?

I finally got the album via mail--yesterday.

All the tracks I haven't heard so far (which aren't the regular 4 singles), are much better than I thought! Listening to it right now--Star Surfer and Never Ever rocks!

EDIT: Fly! really does sound Americanized--but its not bad. I really like it! I can tell Nami Miyahara is the dominant vocalist singer in this track.

zeopower6
07-16-2008, 07:47 PM
Well, Fly! really is different from the rest. I think Japan really thought so too. LOL.

Lunk
07-17-2008, 06:16 PM
Sorry that I haven't been around, it's just that people have been posting so much that I couldn't keep up so I just read and then took a break from the internet for a while...

The reason Fly! is really different is because it's a more "Graceful" song than most of the album. I mean, it's at the end, it has that "EPIC GRACE!" vibe to it... (The chorus, "Drifting the clouds, Moving the stars and, Reaching (the) moon, It's passing all shinny raaaaaaaaaaaays... Release me free from gravity and fly awaaaaaaaaaay) She like increases and starts singing louder along with the instruments, and that's where it's different a little bit. Because she goes so high, so slowly, then drops instantly. And they use more electric guitars.

This is why I have always said they are more of an "Experimental" band than just one genre. They practice with new music and even new music creators! (Star Surfer's music was made by A-bee after all, who made songs like "calling" and "MUSIC" which were a completely different genre to GR)

And also, if you look, each song is made by a different person... Well, the music is. Like Fly! was done by Kousuke Noma, who did the song「un-」for kAT-TUN III - QUEENS OF PIRATES which is a "Hard Rock Tune" type genre.

heavenlystar08
07-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Sorry that I haven't been around, it's just that people have been posting so much that I couldn't keep up so I just read and then took a break from the internet for a while...

The reason Fly! is really different is because it's a more "Graceful" song than most of the album. I mean, it's at the end, it has that "EPIC GRACE!" vibe to it... (The chorus, "Drifting the clouds, Moving the stars and, Reaching (the) moon, It's passing all shinny raaaaaaaaaaaays... Release me free from gravity and fly awaaaaaaaaaay) She like increases and starts singing louder along with the instruments, and that's where it's different a little bit. Because she goes so high, so slowly, then drops instantly. And they use more electric guitars.

This is why I have always said they are more of an "Experimental" band than just one genre. They practice with new music and even new music creators! (Star Surfer's music was made by A-bee after all, who made songs like "calling" and "MUSIC" which were a completely different genre to GR)

And also, if you look, each song is made by a different person... Well, the music is. Like Fly! was done by Kousuke Noma, who did the song「un-」for kAT-TUN III - QUEENS OF PIRATES which is a "Hard Rock Tune" type genre.


What do you mean Fly! was done by Kousuke Noma? Are you talking about who actually made the music--or the vocals?

Because I'm sure Nami Miyahara sings Fly! all through out the song..

Lunk
07-17-2008, 08:53 PM
I said the music, silly! XD

I know who sings the vocals, we already discussed it! I'm saying to MUSIC! The beat! The sound! Fly!'s was done by Kousuke Noma...

zeopower6
07-18-2008, 12:44 PM
I swear you're trying to sound smart by using the composer's names. :|

It doesn't really matter who the eff composes it since it's basically the same guy supervising all of the arrangements. I'd say Fly! just sounds different because of the vocals, since the whole guitar-y thing is seen in Star Line anyway, which is a different sound compared to the other 3 single songles.

Laaaaaaaaame. :|


This is why I have always said they are more of an "Experimental" band than just one genre. They practice with new music and even new music creators! (Star Surfer's music was made by A-bee after all, who made songs like "calling" and "MUSIC" which were a completely different genre to GR)

You must not know what J-pop is like. Usually artists dabble in TONS of genres. :|

Lunk
07-18-2008, 08:45 PM
It's technically not "J-Pop" since none of it's in JAPANESE! ^-^ (Except half of Never Ever) Look on the Japanese iTunes shop, they say "Pop" when they actually do have a separate section called "J-Pop". It's mostly "House" "Dance" "Pop" or "Electronica"...



It doesn't really matter who the eff composes it since it's basically the same guy supervising all of the arrangements. I'd say Fly! just sounds different because of the vocals, since the whole guitar-y thing is seen in Star Line anyway, which is a different sound compared to the other 3 single songles.

Laaaaaaaaame. :|

It makes all the difference if it's done by a different composer. There is a difference between EACH song. None of them sound 80% the same. They all have a different beat and are arranged according to the composer's needs. Pretty much, all the arrangement managers say "Ok, we have [this much] time, we need you to make a beat that long, we need an increase in beat here, here, and here, and we need it to have a [so and so] feel to it" Then the composer goes in and gives it his best shot, and since Genki Rocket's choose the best composers, they don't usually have many problems.

Also, an example of the difference between songs:

A-bee. The composer for Star Surfer, always did this in his songs... He would have certain beats come out of one side of the headphones/speakers and have them play in a certain pattern. He did this in "calling" and "MUSIC". All the other songs either have a certain form of this, like in Breeze, it's an orchestra of beats going from the left, to right, to middle, to BAM. With I will, it is sort of an echo effect at the beginning. It goes in one ear, and then echos to the other ear. With Star Surfer, it stays in one ear, doesn't echo to the other ear, and then kicks in with the main beat.

So each song is different depending on the composers... It always has been in music history, and always will be. If it isn't, no companies would sell CDs!

And Fly! ? They probably played the beat for the singers and said "How would you sing to this?" and they probably sang the same way you hear it now. I would have probably made the same choice of singing too :/

telmi
07-20-2008, 10:47 AM
Thank you very much!

Mazi
07-21-2008, 07:55 PM
I swear you're trying to sound smart by using the composer's names. :|

It doesn't really matter who the eff composes it since it's basically the same guy supervising all of the arrangements. I'd say Fly! just sounds different because of the vocals, since the whole guitar-y thing is seen in Star Line anyway, which is a different sound compared to the other 3 single songles.

Laaaaaaaaame. :|



You must not know what J-pop is like. Usually artists dabble in TONS of genres. :|

I can't believe you don't even notice the difference in the songs. They all sound different. Not only that, they interchange the singers too. Haven't you noticed that the vocals in Heavenly Star are different to those in Breeze? And vice versa with the other songs? Not trying to be mean or anything...

heavenlystar08
07-21-2008, 08:30 PM
I can't believe you don't even notice the difference in the songs. They all sound different. Not only that, they interchange the singers too. Haven't you noticed that the vocals in Heavenly Star are different to those in Breeze? And vice versa with the other songs? Not trying to be mean or anything...

I agree. Its pretty easy to tell who sings who.. Once you find out what each of their voices sound like.. (:

zeopower6
07-21-2008, 10:29 PM
I can't believe you don't even notice the difference in the songs. They all sound different. Not only that, they interchange the singers too. Haven't you noticed that the vocals in Heavenly Star are different to those in Breeze? And vice versa with the other songs? Not trying to be mean or anything...

They did not change singers for Heavenly Star. They added Rin Oikawa, who works on the Q;indivi project to that one Heavenly Star was the jewel or w/e since it ended up having the most women actually singing behind the voice of Lumi. Also, Rin's voice is really easy to pick out.

I'm not saying that the tracks don't sound different but that some people are taking this album way too seriously. It's J-pop. Pop that is released in Japan by Japanese people for the Japanese masses. There's nothing to get all musically philosophical about because it's just an album made to create money. It's not like they were trying to create art here. @_@

My take on the album is that it was a project that they wanted to go on with instead of stopping with Heavenly Star, and it's fun for them. They aren't trying to break boundaries or be musically diverse and sparkly love sparkles... ugh. The point I'm trying to get at is that this is just an album. Why make a big deal about the composers and stuff when the group isn't even worthy of this analysis? So what if they use auto-tune and vocoder? So what if there's a different composer every song? So what?

I still really like this album, but I'm incredibly tired of talking about it. We know who is singing behind the scenes and we know who Lumi is. What else is there to talk about really? I sorta uh, don't really care any more. If they release a new CD, yay, I'm happy, but any further discussion about the "way they crafted -insert song here-" and stuff is just trying to extend a dead discussion beyond its grave. @_@

Mazi
07-21-2008, 11:00 PM
Hmm.. well, that was just an assumption. I'm glad you corrected me. But nonetheless, the music is all different. You can't ignore the producers. But you're right, it is J-Pop.

heavenlystar08
07-21-2008, 11:18 PM
Hey guys.. You know how "Smile" is kind of half and half with RR and NM?

Well.. I just noticed today-- The Stratos Mix of Smile by Metal Mouse, is pretty much all RR.. I'm pretty sure they didn't include any of NM's voice in it..

Just an observation (:

zeopower6
07-22-2008, 12:04 AM
It's probable that when the remixers get vocal tracks, they get both layers to the track, so they can choose who to use when.

heavenlystar08
07-22-2008, 12:33 AM
It's probable that when the remixers get vocal tracks, they get both layers to the track, so they can choose who to use when.

Possibly Although me personally, I don't really hear them sing simultaneously in Smile. And if they do, I don't think the producers got them singing the chorus seperately and just decided to "layer" them. but who knows..

RR covers most of the regular lyrics, and it seems to me that they alternate singing the chorus--with NM singing the Chorus most of the time--in the original "Smile."

Metal Mouse seem to prefer RR's voice more in Smile and other singles they've remixed. So it could be as simple as just taking out NM's part, and repeating RR singing the chorus--if both of them don't sing simultaneously.

collision_strike
08-03-2008, 12:17 PM
Oh no! The Genki Rockets thread with the Rare Breeze Remixes link is gone! ohhh..I wanted that Breeze Remix (the first one, not the second one which is the star breeze mix) at the Apple Store Commercial with Lumi's message and I don't know what is it called. Anyone who knows that remix? If there's a link to the song..then triple triple quadruple quantruple thanks ^_^

izan
09-05-2008, 12:24 AM
you are a master music

heavenlystar08
09-05-2008, 06:46 AM
Oh no! The Genki Rockets thread with the Rare Breeze Remixes link is gone! ohhh..I wanted that Breeze Remix (the first one, not the second one which is the star breeze mix) at the Apple Store Commercial with Lumi's message and I don't know what is it called. Anyone who knows that remix? If there's a link to the song..then triple triple quadruple quantruple thanks ^_^

Wait.. what? Do you want the Star Breeze Mix, or do you want the Summer Afternoon one?

I have an extended one of the Afternoon Mix if thats what you are looking for..

GrooveMan.exe
09-05-2008, 11:16 AM
Oh hell yes, this couldn't have showed up at a better time!

<3

collision_strike
09-06-2008, 08:53 AM
Wait.. what? Do you want the Star Breeze Mix, or do you want the Summer Afternoon one?

I have an extended one of the Afternoon Mix if thats what you are looking for..

Many Thanks for the response! :)

I already have the Summer Afternoon Mix and the Star Breeze Mix of Breeze.
What I am talking about is the breeze remix played in the background music of the Apple Store commericial.

YouTube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHyyKNuVjZU

listen to 0:00 - 0:50 seconds. That's the Breeze Remix I am talking about.
It sounds different than the Summer Afternoon and Star Breeze which are both in the CDs, I think.

Thanks again :)

:kirbyfly: :kirbyfly: :kirbywalk:

heavenlystar08
10-10-2008, 11:40 AM
Many Thanks for the response! :)

I already have the Summer Afternoon Mix and the Star Breeze Mix of Breeze.
What I am talking about is the breeze remix played in the background music of the Apple Store commericial.

YouTube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHyyKNuVjZU

listen to 0:00 - 0:50 seconds. That's the Breeze Remix I am talking about.
It sounds different than the Summer Afternoon and Star Breeze which are both in the CDs, I think.

Thanks again :)

:kirbyfly: :kirbyfly: :kirbywalk:


Hmm.. according to a youtube comment.. its the "Breeze (Champagne mix)"

i believe I've actually heard of it before a month ago.. But I don't have it.

I'll try to search for it soon though.

p.s.. wow this thread still exists? lol

collision_strike
10-11-2008, 10:43 AM
Hmm.. according to a youtube comment.. its the "Breeze (Champagne mix)"

i believe I've actually heard of it before a month ago.. But I don't have it.

I'll try to search for it soon though.

p.s.. wow this thread still exists? lol

No, It's ok. I already found it. Thank you very much. I really appreciate your help. And I also found out that It sucks, The only good part was the part that was used in the commercial X(

Thanks everyone :)

heavenlystar08
10-11-2008, 08:49 PM
No, It's ok. I already found it. Thank you very much. I really appreciate your help. And I also found out that It sucks, The only good part was the part that was used in the commercial X(

Thanks everyone :)

wait.. do you actually have the music file now.. or no?

Rubikura
10-20-2008, 02:24 AM
it's on itunes US

djfred84
12-14-2008, 10:28 PM
class album if you like j-electro check out lisa hot love and other side

ANTIDEUS
08-21-2009, 06:17 AM
Rise from your grave!!!!!!

I know I'm ultra delayed, but I heard about Genki Rockets because of No More Heroes and I fell in love <3 . I've unlocked the Heavenly Star skin on Lumines II :D .

I've just found working links for the singles:


http://www.katzforums.com/showthread.php?p=416513

I hope it helps somebody XD .

heavenlystar08
09-05-2009, 01:51 AM
Rise from your grave!!!!!!

I know I'm ultra delayed, but I heard about Genki Rockets because of No More Heroes and I fell in love <3 . I've unlocked the Heavenly Star skin on Lumines II :D .

I've just found working links for the singles:


http://www.katzforums.com/showthread.php?p=416513

I hope it helps somebody XD .

Too bad they don't have Breeze Champagne Remix.. /=


oh and.. holy crap guys... LUMI's 20th Birthday is tonight--at midnight pacific time.. aka 6 hours and 10 minutes!!

I wonder what the hell will happen when the countdown strikes 12.

genkirockets.com

heavenlystar08
09-05-2009, 06:33 AM
oh wait scratch that.. 6 more days! ^^^

ANTIDEUS
09-11-2009, 01:31 AM
Site has changed due to Lumi's birthday ^^.

Check it out now: http://www.genkirockets.com/

Rubikura
09-11-2009, 07:22 AM
If you record every white number in their website videos you get "20190911"
which seem to indicate her date of birth.
9/11/2019

heavenlystar08
09-11-2009, 07:33 AM
If you record every white number in their website videos you get "20190911"
which seem to indicate her date of birth.
9/11/2019

Really? Hmm.. Wikipedia says she was born in 2037. 0_o

I'm confused.

Anyway.. what do you guys reckon what will happen at midnight (25 minutes from now), pacific time?

New album perhaps?

I'm guessing at least a new video blog with Rachel Rhodes..

Rubikura
09-30-2009, 06:42 AM
nothing yetttt
i was hoping they'd announce a release date for "reaching for the stars" :/

Naoki Maeda
02-08-2010, 12:00 AM
heavenly star @ DJ Ten Remix is the best !!!!!


*O*

tellmehowtoplay
05-23-2010, 08:19 AM
does anyone have a link to the jap version of star line?

spankyjones
05-23-2010, 05:28 PM
does anyone have a link to the jap version of star line?

http://www.multiupload.com/VGLEUCIHBR

houseten
06-24-2010, 03:55 AM
Thanks for the HQ live video ^__^

keviiinn
07-08-2010, 12:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2_vaqkmKHw

I like it.

heavenlystar08
07-31-2010, 12:24 AM
What's the new song called?

keviiinn
07-31-2010, 03:19 AM
looks like it's called Make Believe

Mazi
10-05-2010, 03:34 AM
Hey everyone!!! I haven't been here in a while, what's new with 元気 ロケッツ??

zeopower6
10-05-2010, 03:49 AM
They recently released a new song called make.believe~

The video is amazing!

YouTube - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRDo13wthew&feature=player_embedded)

Mazi
10-05-2010, 04:02 AM
No new album yet?

---------- Post added at 10:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 PM ----------

Ok why is it to me Lumi-chan looks different? Is a real person now Lumi or have they created even better graphics so that she looks so REAL? It's a gorgeous video by the way. <3 I loved it.

Rage_Beat06
10-06-2010, 06:55 AM
link to make believe mp3
Genki Rockets - make.believe.mp3 - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download (http://www.4shared.com/audio/kO_oO_V0/Genki_Rockets_-_makebelieve.htm)

gwimmel
12-14-2010, 06:11 AM
Hey everyone!!! I haven't been here in a while, what's new with 元気 ロケッツ??

Doesn't appear that anyone has mentioned it in this thread yet, but the game Child of Eden will feature Lumi along with Genki Rockets music.

YouTube - Child of Eden Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuYWLYjOa_0)

This is pretty old news, but the game looks absolutely amazing and i've always wanted a Rez 2. Too bad i'm not shelling out 150 bux for a Kinect so i'll have to play it with a controller.

tehdc
01-27-2011, 10:34 PM
theres another new song,watch the end of this video, no one has the whole thing. its called curiosity.
YouTube - Genki Rockets in 3D @ CES Las Vegas 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx2VGMYFqbs)

keviiinn
04-21-2011, 02:47 PM
Curiosity full music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAGshYQNmwQ)

dontknow09
05-08-2011, 10:46 PM
Curiosity full music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAGshYQNmwQ)

Thanks dude, been waiting for some more Genki Rockets!

zeopower6
05-09-2011, 10:43 AM
Genki Rockets <3

I hope a Child of Eden themed album comes out.

So far they have the following songs ready for release:
make.believe
Curiosity
Reaching for the stars
Touch me!

~__~

Previews here:
Cuirosity HQ Audio →ge.tt/74wDD1j
Reaching for the stars -Radio Rip- →ge.tt/7oUed41http://ge.tt/3ii0zvD

Short LQ radio rip of Touch me!.

keviiinn
06-07-2011, 03:31 PM
^ thanks man. Touch Me is straight up awesome. I've been listening to it over and over. hope a video is out soon

asdf,qwer
06-15-2011, 12:22 AM
Yeah, thank you very much!

AnoxiaUK
07-11-2011, 12:16 PM
Too bad i'm not shelling out 150 bux for a Kinect so i'll have to play it with a controller.

It's so worth it! Rez is one of my favourite games of all time, and Child of Eden surpasses it...playing it with Kinect is so much more immersive. Can't remember the last time a game had me grinning ear to ear so consistently.

lone wolf and cub
07-11-2011, 11:06 PM
tnk u so much =D

otoko989
09-09-2011, 12:38 AM
Genki Rockets 2 - No Border Between Us was released.

zeopower6
09-09-2011, 04:20 AM
Posted it.

I will scan my copy and rip the ISO when it arrives~

Alter9514
02-20-2012, 10:03 AM
LUmik <3

iddalai
02-26-2012, 05:13 PM
I have to say it, I find it a bit disgusting that they used Child of Eden to promote their album.

Rez also used remixes of their musics but it wasn't so obvious at promoting them.

SlashBee
05-07-2012, 01:48 PM
>8 pages useless discussion about some girl
>meanwhile all download links are dead
Stay classy guys

Azureuus
08-18-2012, 03:35 AM
I'm with this guy. I mean megaupload? Really?

ZenErik
08-18-2012, 09:14 AM
I have to say it, I find it a bit disgusting that they used Child of Eden to promote their album.

Rez also used remixes of their musics but it wasn't so obvious at promoting them.
Huh? GR music in CoE is awesome. I listen to the game mixes all the time. I hope that they are able to do more games with GR music.

Rez did NOT use Genki Rockets music. They didn't exist then. And Rachel Rhodes would have only been 7 or 8 when Rez was released.