Omaklise
06-11-2008, 01:05 PM
What is your favourite battle in FF8? Boss or non-boss, doesn't matter!

My favourite is the battle with Griever, purely cause of the enemy you're fighting, the music, the moves used against you, everything about it is just epic!

execrable gumwrapper
06-11-2008, 04:47 PM
lol@anything about VIII being "epic"

Goren
06-11-2008, 05:29 PM
Battle with Gilgamesh (last one) Necrophone
is in it too. thats my favorite battle, scene, music and all.

Lady Elven Archer
06-11-2008, 06:23 PM
I'd have to say Omega Weapon, because it at least put up a fight. FFVIII is way too easy.

Desert Wolf
06-11-2008, 06:51 PM
What is your favourite battle in FF8? Boss or non-boss, doesn't matter!

My favourite is the battle with Griever, purely cause of the enemy you're fighting, the music, the moves used against you, everything about it is just epic!

The music is indeed good alright but I didnt find him a challenge really. I liked the guy at the end of the missile base though. That battle was a challenge but only cause I always sent my crap team there.

Zak
06-11-2008, 06:57 PM
lol@anything about VIII being "epic"

The weapons do make for epic battles if done without cheating.

But as for my favorite... well, it'll probably sound cliche, but honestly I think the Ultimecia in space battle was fun. Nothing at all to do with the fact that it was the last battle. Drawing Apocalypse, taking advantage if Hell's Judgement (limit break opportunities FTW), pretty much unleashing every item I want since I won't need to be worrying about items anymore, and best of all... THE EXTREME!! I'd prolong the battle just for that.

I also liked her battle speech after the last 10 times she was hit.

RikkuYunaRinoa
06-11-2008, 07:30 PM
Man, the Geezard battles were wild. Couldnt get enough.

Omaklise
06-12-2008, 09:21 AM
LoL gotta <3 those Geezards...

FainaruFantaji
06-12-2008, 11:27 PM
Diablos.
Because I like that GF too much.

Olde
06-13-2008, 03:53 AM
For some reason Elnoyle sticks out. Probably because I fought him so many times. Not my favorite, though.

For favorites, I'd probably choose Odin, (cause he never fought back and you could draw so much triple), Ultima Weapon, Bahamut, and Jumbo Cactuar.

Ngrplz
06-13-2008, 04:31 AM
I really enjoyed most battles in FFVIII, especially any battle that was in Dollet (Love The Landing theme to bits and bits)

Also the fights on board the Lunatic Pandora really stuck out for me, they provided a fun challenge.

My all time favourite would definitely be the end of disc one, and the battles that occure during the parade in Deling City. I remember playing it for the first time and was amazed at the beautiful cutscenes.

Omaklise
06-21-2008, 02:01 PM
For some reason Elnoyle sticks out. Probably because I fought him so many times. Not my favorite, though.

Oh lord I'm getting flashbacks of killing hundreds of those fuckers just to get Energy Crystals!


For favorites, I'd probably choose Odin, (cause he never fought back and you could draw so much triple), Ultima Weapon, Bahamut, and Jumbo Cactuar.

Ah yes, I remember Water + Triple used to work well, but he still had a FUCK-LOAD of hp!

Noobinabox
06-21-2008, 02:52 PM
I like to slaughter Tonberries. Their high HP makes them a fun fight because it takes more than one hit to kill. Also, they don't give EXP, so I can pummel them with my stat-advantage in no-level files.

Marlboros are also one of my favorite enemies. They can actually defeat you if you aren't careful when fighting them. I think they're drastically overrated though.

[.Pearl.]
06-22-2008, 09:36 PM
I loved fighting those aliens on the Ragnarok, when you just have Squall&Rinoa. Even though it scared me being chased them, I kind of liked that thrill. :D
Also, the music during that sequence is kick-ass.

Psycho_Cyan
06-30-2008, 04:27 PM
lol@anything about VIII being "epic"

Except for "epic failure."


ZOMG I WENT THERE!1!

Omaklise
07-02-2008, 02:24 PM
Oi seriously, fuck off!

If I wanted to hear you cock-heads badmouthing FFVIII, I would have made the a 'Bag Out FFVIII' thread! This is a thread for people who want to discuss their favourite and least favourite battles in FFVIII, so stop being attention-seeking little fuck-stains and get a life!


I really liked the battle with Tonberry King, it's fast and because of his high damage it's hectic!

Goren
07-03-2008, 04:12 AM
I agree but you could have been a bit nicer about it.

Psycho_Cyan
07-04-2008, 12:55 AM
Oi seriously, fuck off!

If I wanted to hear you cock-heads badmouthing FFVIII, I would have made the a 'Bag Out FFVIII' thread!

But instead, you made a "masturbate all over FFVIII" thread, so us "cock-heads" (yawwwn...) had to make do with what was available.


This is a thread for people who want to discuss their favourite and least favourite battles in FFVIII, so stop being attention-seeking little fuck-stains and get a life!

You're making threads about a nine-year old PSX title and you tell me to get a life? Mr. Kettle, there's a Mr. Pot on the line, seems that he's calling you black...


I really liked the battle with Tonberry King, it's fast and because of his high damage it's hectic!

I'll actually post on-topic on this one. I found the Tonberry King battle to be exceedingly tedious, but that might have been because of the bore that I was forced to endure before getting to it. At any rate, I wouldn't call any battle in FFVIII "hectic." I mean, they're menu-driven, turn-based battles with (for the time) pretty graphics at times. With the broken battle system, it's not like the vast majority (if any) of the battles were even challenging.

execrable gumwrapper
07-04-2008, 06:27 AM
IT'S HECTIC BECAUSE IT WAS ON ACTIVE INSTEAD OF WAIT LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Zak
07-04-2008, 06:59 AM
You're making threads about a nine-year old PSX title and you tell me to get a life? Mr. Kettle, there's a Mr. Pot on the line, seems that he's calling you black...

You seriously want to re-think the logic of that statement.

Olde
07-04-2008, 07:14 AM
IT'S HECTIC BECAUSE IT WAS ON ACTIVE INSTEAD OF WAIT LOLOLOLOLOLOL

AND THE CURSOR WAS SET ON DEFAULT INSTEAD OF MEMORY!!! NOW THAT'S HECTIC!!!

:)

Psycho_Cyan
07-05-2008, 01:35 AM
IT'S HECTIC BECAUSE IT WAS ON ACTIVE INSTEAD OF WAIT LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Oh, wow. That's daring.


You seriously want to re-think the logic of that statement.

Enlighten me, then. Just seems to me that someone who starts threads to wank all over a nine year old PSX title hasn't any room to tell anybody else to get a life. Whether or not the anybody else has a life is irrelevant.


AND THE CURSOR WAS SET ON DEFAULT INSTEAD OF MEMORY!!! NOW THAT'S HECTIC!!!

Oh, whoa! Now that's daring.

MAZZ0Murder
07-05-2008, 02:33 AM
I'd have to say Omega Weapon, because it at least put up a fight. FFVIII is way too easy.
HELL YES! Omega was really a good challenge.

Zak
07-05-2008, 07:24 AM
Enlighten me, then. Just seems to me that someone who starts threads to wank all over a nine year old PSX title hasn't any room to tell anybody else to get a life. Whether or not the anybody else has a life is irrelevant.

First of all you're flip-flopping here, again I quote that phrase:


You're making threads about a nine-year old PSX title and you tell me to get a life? Mr. Kettle, there's a Mr. Pot on the line, seems that he's calling you black...

If you look at this, it's almost a quote so retarded and worthy of sig material. I take it, anyone who discusses this game or starts a thread in this forum (or the VII forum, or the classics forum) has no room to tell anyone else to get a life? You're grasping at straws here. Making threads to masturbate all over them is one thing, but you merely said "Making threads ABOUT a nine-year old PSX title". So in other words, anyone who discusses a nine-year old game has no room to tell someone else to get a life? Anyone who talks about the atari needs to get a life? Anyone who makes a thread asking about a certain aspect of any game that's over nine years old (like, the purpose of this forum or the other two) needs to get a life?

If you truly believe that, you sir, are a moron. Or maybe you meant something else, hell, here I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by pointing at that phrase specifically and asking if you meant something that sounds less silly, but judging by your reponse it doesn't seem so.

I suppose anyone who talks about the classics has no life merely because they're nine years old... seriously, get real.

Besides that, now you're mentioning threads where people "wank over nine year old PSX titles". Well, first of all, I don't exactly know what you're smoking when you're calling this thread one of them. Look at the original post and the original purpose of this thread. I doubt anyone but yourself sees this one as such (except maybe Swami). Whether it degenerated into one is irrelevant, because you were accusing the OP of this being one when it clearly isn't.
And finally, what's wrong with threads that ARE actually like that, about old games? Maybe for some, but all old games in general? Such a silly claim would probably hold more water if you said "a nine-year old game like FFVIII" (I'd disagree there, but at least it wouldn't sound as stupid, considering I would say the same about FFVII because of the bandwagon) but to anyone who posts a topic "wanking over" ANY game that's nine years old needing to get a life, which once again this thread isn't anyway, well... let's just say again that for your own sake I'd hope you meant something different.

At least that's nowhere near as moronic as your supposed claim that anyone who TALKS about a nine year old PSX title needs to get a life... or rather as you put it, is a hypocrite by telling someone else to get a life. You'd better hope you meant something else there, at least.

execrable gumwrapper
07-05-2008, 08:09 AM
Oh Zak, you never fail to amuse me. Oh and thanks for calling me out, you shameless fuckstain. :)

Now as for your assessment of Cyan's statement. I've really never seen anyone so damned short-sighted. It's obvious Cyan was referring to idiotic threads like this one. Especially this one, where VIII has a flawed battle system, the thread is fucking pointless. There is no such thing as an epic battle if you can manipulate the system to make the game a 2-hitter for every boss. Anything beyond that is repetitive and dull (hi, Omega Weapon!) So yes, talking about games in this fashion does question the OP's aquisition of a life.

But of course, you read it just as you saw it, thus causing you to rant and rave and defend every game from nine years ago and earlier. If you respond to this, I do hope it's with as much ferver and effort as your response to Cyan. :)

Zak
07-05-2008, 06:10 PM
Oh Zak, you never fail to amuse me. Oh and thanks for calling me out, you shameless fuckstain. :)

You're welcome. I wouldn't really say that small mention was calling you out, but it turns out I was right! Hah. And you really are one to talk about "shameless" considering the last place you actually called me out.


It's obvious Cyan was referring to idiotic threads like this one. Especially this one, where VIII has a flawed battle system, the thread is fucking pointless. Anything beyond that is repetitive and dull (hi, Omega Weapon!) So yes, talking about games in this fashion does question the OP's aquisition of a life.

Okay, so any thread about battles is pointless because "the system is flawed"? Seriously... lol and you're the one calling me short-sighted. That's gotta be some of the most twisted logic ever considering there are some other aspects to battles, like music. But anyway, that's almost like saying discussing old PC games is pointless because they have cheat codes. People usually don't start abusing the battle system until their second playthrough. And there was still nothing fanboyish or idiotic about the original post itself. Going by your logic you could have judged by the title alone that this thread is pointless, since after all, talking about battles in FFVIII is pointless, right? :rolleyes:
After all, the system is abusable, thus nullifying all sanity or credibility for anyone to talk about battles from this game. Forget things like quotes or music because YOU NEED A LIFE FOR TALKING ABOUT BATTLES LOLZ Seriously... make sense for once if you're gonna say I'm short sighted.


But of course, you read it just as you saw it, thus causing you to rant and rave and defend every game from nine years ago and earlier. If you respond to this, I do hope it's with as much ferver and effort as your response to Cyan.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. You guys are the ones making the blanket statement about games from nine years ago in general, and because I see that as idiotic (which most people probably would anyway), it doesn't mean I'm defending every game from nine years ago. There are a whole lot that I wouldn't.

There's that response you were looking forward to, hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I enjoyed typing it.

Psycho_Cyan
07-05-2008, 06:12 PM
First of all you're flip-flopping here, again I quote that phrase:

Flip-flopping? Who are you all of a sudden, President Bush? Not only are you splitting hairs, but you oh-so-conveniently ignored where I said "But instead, you made a "masturbate all over FFVIII" thread..." So, your retarded little rant is pretty much completely off-base. Nice try, genius. :rolleyes:


If you look at this, it's almost a quote so retarded and worthy of sig material.

Only if you take it out of context, which you seem to be incredibly good at doing. :rolleyes:


I take it, anyone who discusses this game or starts a thread in this forum (or the VII forum, or the classics forum) has no room to tell anyone else to get a life? You're grasping at straws here. Making threads to masturbate all over them is one thing, but you merely said "Making threads ABOUT a nine-year old PSX title". So in other words, anyone who discusses a nine-year old game has no room to tell someone else to get a life? Anyone who talks about the atari needs to get a life? Anyone who makes a thread asking about a certain aspect of any game that's over nine years old (like, the purpose of this forum or the other two) needs to get a life?

Except for the fact that I did specify that he made this thread to wank all over FFVIII. If you'd actually, oh, READ the whole post instead of one sentence, you might have picked up on that. Then again, considering your limited mental capacity, probably not.


I suppose anyone who talks about the classics has no life merely because they're nine years old... seriously, get real.

Zak, I know this is difficult for you, but don't be a cunt.


Besides that, now you're mentioning threads where people "wank over nine year old PSX titles". Well, first of all, I don't exactly know what you're smoking when you're calling this thread one of them.

I was mentioning threads where people masturbate over nine year old PSX titles to begin with, you fuckwit. Learn to fucking read.


Look at the original post and the original purpose of this thread. I doubt anyone but yourself sees this one as such (except maybe Swami). Whether it degenerated into one is irrelevant, because you were accusing the OP of this being one when it clearly isn't.

The OP was indeed wanking over the game, calling battles epic where anybody with two brain cells to rub together wouldn't. When you're using phrases like, "everything about it is just epic!" you've crossed into wanking territory.


And finally, what's wrong with threads that ARE actually like that, about old games?

Threads about old games aren't bad. Threads about good old games aren't bad either. Threads made to wank over bad old games are.


At least that's nowhere near as moronic as your supposed claim that anyone who TALKS about a nine year old PSX title needs to get a life... or rather as you put it, is a hypocrite by telling someone else to get a life. You'd better hope you meant something else there, at least.

Seeing as I never made that particular claim, who, exactly, is the moron?


Now you're putting words in my mouth. You guys are the ones making the blanket statement about games from nine years ago in general, and because I see that as idiotic (which most people probably would anyway), it doesn't mean I'm defending every game from nine years ago. There are a whole lot that I wouldn't.

Seeing as I've clearly demonstrated that you put words in my mouth, what you think most people would see as idiotic is pretty irrelevant.

Zak
07-06-2008, 01:28 AM
Flip-flopping? Who are you all of a sudden, President Bush? Not only are you splitting hairs, but you oh-so-conveniently ignored where I said "But instead, you made a "masturbate all over FFVIII" thread..." So, your retarded little rant is pretty much completely off-base. Nice try, genius. :rolleyes:


I didn't ignore it, I actually specifically referred to it later.



Only if you take it out of context, which you seem to be incredibly good at doing. :rolleyes:

Exactly, but it's not really taking it out of context if it's exactly what you're saying. The whole thing which started this was me telling you to rephrase just that that part, where you said "making threads ABOUT a nine year old PSX game", which, if taken word for word can be taken out of context, by a lot. I'm not just doing it for the hell of it if that's what you think. I also said that I hoped that's not what you really meant, because after your reply to that where you said "Enlighten me" it still seemed like you actually did mean that. So I guess if you're saying now that you didn't, well then great, case closed on that matter.




Except for the fact that I did specify that he made this thread to wank all over FFVIII. If you'd actually, oh, READ the whole post instead of one sentence, you might have picked up on that. Then again, considering your limited mental capacity, probably not.

Exactly what I was asking you, I did indeed read the post a few times and didn't see it and my next move was gonna be to ask you for an example of said wankery, though I see you provided one below. I'll get to that in a second...




Zak, I know this is difficult for you, but don't be a cunt.

It's only difficult for me not to be a cunt when I'm replying to one. :)
But I guess you could say I'm making an effort to in this post...



I was mentioning threads where people masturbate over nine year old PSX titles to begin with, you fuckwit. Learn to fucking read.

The whole last part of my post was about people who masturbate over old games. So, take your own advice.
But anyway, I don't see how wanking over old games is any worse than wanking over newer games. But that's another matter...



The OP was indeed wanking over the game, calling battles epic where anybody with two brain cells to rub together wouldn't. When you're using phrases like, "everything about it is just epic!" you've crossed into wanking territory.

Aha. So this is where it all comes down to. See, I disagree there, because it seems like you're saying calling a battle epic means wanking over a game, so in other words, whenever someone calls a battle "epic" (even if it's from another game where it actually is) they're "wanking over it"? Some people say certain battles from FFXII were epic, which I would agree with, so that means they're "wanking over" that game? Give me a break... there are certain things that actually DO cross into wanking territory and this is not one of them.
And for the record I also disagree about that fight being epic (except for the music), so I'm not really biased either in defending him.



Threads about old games aren't bad. Threads about good old games aren't bad either. Threads made to wank over bad old games are.

Actually, threads made to wank over "bad" old games are no worse than those made to wank over "good" old games and new games. I'm sorry if you're one of those elitists that thinks their word is law on what games are good and what games are bad, but maybe one day you'll grow up. And also if that really is you, calling me a cunt is kinda pot/kettle now amirite



Seeing as I never made that particular claim, who, exactly, is the moron?

See above. I initially suggested rephrasing that part alone, and when you didn't get what I meant, it almost does give the green light to assume you actually meant that.


Seeing as I've clearly demonstrated that you put words in my mouth, what you think most people would see as idiotic is pretty irrelevant.

Maybe what I think would be irrelevant, but whether I'm right is another matter. :)

Psycho_Cyan
07-06-2008, 09:16 AM
Your post is so fucking stupid that I hardly know where to begin.


I didn't ignore it, I actually specifically referred to it later.

Actually, you didn't. You ignored my first mention of fanwankery, took my second "making threads" line out of context, blew it way the hell out of proportion with an asinine rant, and then stated that I was "flip-flopping" when I specified fanwanking again.


Exactly, but it's not really taking it out of context if it's exactly what you're saying. The whole thing which started this was me telling you to rephrase just that that part, where you said "making threads ABOUT a nine year old PSX game", which, if taken word for word can be taken out of context, by a lot.

Which is pretty much what you did. If your comprehension skills are so lacking that I need to continually repeat myself verbatim, then perhaps you shouldn't be reading my posts and should try mastering See Spot Run or Dr. Seuss first. You also said nothing about rephrasing anything; you, of all people, wanted me to "re-think (sic) my logic."


You seriously want to re-think the logic of that statement.


I'm not just doing it for the hell of it if that's what you think. I also said that I hoped that's not what you really meant, because after your reply to that where you said "Enlighten me" it still seemed like you actually did mean that. So I guess if you're saying now that you didn't, well then great, case closed on that matter.

Okay. Look. The oh-so-offensive line where I neglected the fanwankery part came immediately after "But instead, you made a "masturbate all over FFVIII" thread." I gave whoever would be reading that the benefit of the doubt that they'd be able to put two and two together and understand what I was trying to say.


Exactly what I was asking you, I did indeed read the post a few times and didn't see it

IT WAS THE FIRST FUCKING SENTENCE IN THAT POST.


It's only difficult for me not to be a cunt when I'm replying to one. :)

Way to totally sound like a third-grader. "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!"


The whole last part of my post was about people who masturbate over old games. So, take your own advice.

When you said "Now you're mentioning threads," I took that to mean that you were implying that I wasn't previously, which would make sense after the "flip-flopping" nonsense. There's that context thing again. Then again, as poorly organized as your post was, I probably shouldn't have assumed you'd refer to the first sentence in your post the way I did in mine.


Aha. So this is where it all comes down to. See, I disagree there, because it seems like you're saying calling a battle epic means wanking over a game, so in other words, whenever someone calls a battle "epic" (even if it's from another game where it actually is) they're "wanking over it"? Some people say certain battles from FFXII were epic, which I would agree with, so that means they're "wanking over" that game?

If "everything about it is just epic!" doesn't seem at all like wanking to you, then don't even bother arguing the point anymore, assuming you even have a point to begin with. Also, you completely fail for bringing up completely unrelated shit for no apparent reason.


Give me a break... there are certain things that actually DO cross into wanking territory and this is not one of them. And for the record I also disagree about that fight being epic (except for the music), so I'm not really biased either in defending him.

Then why the fuck are you bothering? If you have some axe to grind with me, then take your axe to a PM instead of sniping at me over this stupid shit.


Actually, threads made to wank over "bad" old games are no worse than those made to wank over "good" old games and new games.

And your point is?


I'm sorry if you're one of those elitists that thinks their word is law on what games are good and what games are bad, but maybe one day you'll grow up.

So...when I say a game is bad, and I back what I say with generally sound reasoning (which I have done several times with FFVIII), I'm suddenly an elitist who thinks his word is law? I'm really starting to think you've got some sort of grudge for some reason. If you do, how about you grow up and take it to a PM, and then maybe you might have some room to talk about my maturity?


And also if that really is you, calling me a cunt is kinda pot/kettle now amirite

Seeing that I'm hardly an elitist as I understand the term, I suppose you're quite wrong.


See above. I initially suggested rephrasing that part alone, and when you didn't get what I meant, it almost does give the green light to assume you actually meant that.

You've never said anything about rephrasing anything until this post, d00d. "Rethinking logic" and "rephrasing" are way different.

So, by way of settling your little pissing contest, how's this: I, Psycho_Cyan, highly opinionated but not-quite elitist poster on FFS, hereby publicly apologize to Zak, master of ad nauseam and President Bush imitator extraordinaire, for not specifying to the point of hair-splitting every single time I make a statement, even when a reasonably competent reader should understand what I was trying to get at.

There, does that ease your butthurt at least a little bit?


Maybe what I think would be irrelevant, but whether I'm right is another matter. :)

And you call me an elitist? That's almost funny.

Noobinabox
07-06-2008, 05:17 PM
And teh winnerz is..."Too Much Effort on an Off-Topic Issue!!!"

CONNNNGRATULATIONSSS!!!


It might have been a different story had you two been arguing over whether that Geezard was more difficult to defeat than the Bite Bug.......


Request Lock...nothing good can result of this.

Psycho_Cyan
07-07-2008, 01:01 AM
And teh winnerz is..."Too Much Effort on an Off-Topic Issue!!!"

CONNNNGRATULATIONSSS!!!


It might have been a different story had you two been arguing over whether that Geezard was more difficult to defeat than the Bite Bug.......


Request Lock...nothing good can result of this.

Wow. Epic post. Thank you, Noobinabox, for bringing us to our senses. My life has been changed forever. Thank you.

execrable gumwrapper
07-07-2008, 01:21 AM
My life was changed when reading the awkwardly emphasized "congratulations."

Ngrplz
07-07-2008, 01:34 AM
Yeah I think I has a siezure when I read that.

i_dioteque
08-22-2008, 02:22 PM
hmmmmmmmmmm id have to say the battles with Seifer, because he acts all tough and then gets torn a new arsehole by squall and co. his attacks are completely useless.

MoonlightW
11-05-2008, 10:45 PM
My favorite battle wasn't really anything difficulty-based, it was just a weird moment in the story for me, the battle with NORG... Up until that point everything seemed pretty tame and made sense all on its own, then you ride down into the basement of Balamb Garden and have this weird alien thing sitting in some spaceship or something yelling and freaking out on everyone, and the creepy organ music playing the whole time... I distinctly remember an intense feeling of "WTF?!" at that particular moment. I like wtf moments, haha. And then, battle. I guess my favorite battle has nothing to do with the battle, really, haha.

bjenks
12-02-2008, 11:30 PM
The battle at the end of the first disc with Edea is probably my favorite. Mainly for the music piece that she accompanies. I love Edea's music. :)

Ngrplz
12-02-2008, 11:51 PM
The battle at the end of the first disc with Edea is probably my favorite. Mainly for the music piece that she accompanies. I love Edea's music. :)

I agree.....the battle at the end of Disc One at Deling City.

bjenks
12-03-2008, 01:04 AM
I agree.....the battle at the end of Disc One at Deling City.

The way the first disc ends is very dramatic as well. :)

Agent0042
12-03-2008, 05:13 AM
For pure comedy value, the two battles with the BGHF512, or whatever its designation is. The mechanized menace you first fight with Selphie's team at the end of the missile base mission and then later as a broken-ass piece-of-crap that's basically just serving as protection for Selphie and the team. It's funny how you keep breaking down various pieces of it and they're like "Uh... just keep fighting!" and then finally you just bust the thing up and the soldiers take you on, even though they know they're totally screwed.

Zak
12-03-2008, 05:44 AM
Wow, lol I remember this thread.

Marshall Lee
12-03-2008, 06:02 AM
What would Prak say?