And I can't put the fucker down. Seriously, I've clocked like 16 hours in the last two days. This is, imo, the best FF to date.

Oh and Balthier, best character ever. EVER. Seriously, in the prison scene when he jumps in the pit, gives his hand motion with a smirk that just says "bring it, bitches," that did it for me. Plus he's always so witty and calm.

Only problem I'm having is getting gil for the expensive equipment. Other than that, this game is truly awesome.

I don't know what everyone's beef is with the story, btw, Seems to flow at just the right pace, imo.

My main party is Vaan(19), Balthier(20) and Fran(20). Vaan is tank, Balthier is support and Fran is healer. Works out great, except when I run out of potions/phoenix downs ;_;

FTR, the only guest I have enjoyed having was Larsa. At least he fucking helps with healing instead of just attacking. FUCK YOU VOSSLER! FUCK YOU TO HELL!

Have you tried selling your loot for the equipment? I know it sounds silly, but i did forget to do it at first. Also, when you were in the mines, did you build a chain against all the dead skeletons? They are great for level building and drop valuable loot.

Larsa is great. Best guest in the game imo.

And yes, you're correct, XII is great. I didn't know you had not played it tbh. Good work sir.

Yeah I sell my loot and when I was in the mines I tried doing that long chain but I didn't prepare well enough so I had to end that part.

Man, XII is gonna be a tough one to beat, imo. I'm so early in the game too which is awesome. The battle sytem is the best so far as well. I actually want to grind now.

Also one thing I hate that pertains to most FF. When you defeat an esper and receive it, it's only like... 1/10th of what it was. Kinda makes it not worth it at first, imo. =/ I mean a Wild Saurian killed Belias, lol.

Haha. They are hard to beat until alot later anyway. The espers are a little bit weird. But once i got used to them, and learnt how to set my gambits up so that i could protect them, they become alot more useful imo.

Where are you in the game now?

Just got that stupid stone for Ashe and now she wants to go to a village. Problem is, the mobs on the way there are kicking my ass so I need to spend a couple of hours leveling. I say couple of hours because there is no middle ground for me to train at. Giza Plains is too easy, Ozmone Plains are too f*cking hard. Though, it's probably because I got kickass weapons and starter armor, lol.

Larsa is indeed the best. If it's not too late, you should use him to your advantage and beat every mark you can before you lose him forever. You will never get another worthier, more helpful guest.

But anyway, yeah, XII is awesome on the challenging factor.

I also agree about the Espers. I rarely ever used them, but they're fun to get for the completion factor since each battle is challenging in a different way.

I like Larsa, but I didn't really like having a guest in my party at any point in time.

Larsa is the only guest that's not nothing but a liability. Especially when you try to make chains. And don't get me started on Reddas and the Magic Urns!

I have to say FFXII is a pretty good game and things were going well at the start. Other things got in the way though and I still have to finish it.

So Vaan, Fran, and Balthier are level 25 right now (everyone else is like... 17 lol) and I'm trying to take down the optional Demongate. I want that Demonsbane!

Any tips?

Use quickenings.

Right now only Balthier and Fran has one each. Ashe has one but she's weak so that's a no go.

I got a 7 hitter on him but it only did like 4500 damage. =/ I NEED ETHERS

Have your mage cast Aero as the gate is weak against wind magick. That's what I used to take a good chunk of HP off. The remaining HP I hacked off with Quickenings. So I'd also advise you to level up so you can learn more Quickenings. Learning Quickenings also ups your MP which I found helpful.

Also, if you're good at getting chains in the Quickenings I recommend using two character parties and having them perform Quickenings in pairs. I always found that causes more damage than using three character Quickenings.

I don't think I can buy Aero right now. =/

I always do the next thing in the story and then immediately go back to it. I don't remember what it is, but I do remember that it buys you all time to level up and by then it'll go down fast. You'll also gain some good loot along the way. If you wanna ensure, complete all the sidequests and marks available before progressing further as well.

Unfortunately everyone levels up independently so try to stay even. I made the mistake of not doing that on the first playthrough.

Also on the bright side, that X-Zone status is exclusive to this battle and you'll never have to endure it again.

Right now only Balthier and Fran has one each. Ashe has one but she's weak so that's a no go.

I got a 7 hitter on him but it only did like 4500 damage. =/ I NEED ETHERS
Get at least one quickening for all characters, start a chain, trade one character out, use the new character start a new chain etc. You can get at least 4 chains that way.

This is a amazing game, but u need a lot of time to make it 100%...
And that chest stuff to get the good equips sucks ;/

Oh shit, that's right... lol, I guess it's too late now. For some reason the best weapon in the game (Zodiac Spear) you're screwed out of getting if you open one of four chests that you probably already opened because they're right in the open and completely diverse and there is no hint in the game to tell you not to.

There's an alternative way to get it which is extremely time consuming. There's a chest that has a 10% chance of appearing, 10% chance of it including an item and not gil, and 10% chance of it being the Zodiac Spear. 1/1000... I wouldn't go as far as saying it's worth it quite yet, but it's great. I don't know much about the other good weapons so I'm not gonna say it's worth it as I honestly don't know, cause in my second playthrough that was my tank. :P

I'd be going for it anyway if I missed it since I'm a completionist, it'd probably take 6 hours... I mean, 1000 tries.

noskillbassist. IMO



If you don't yet have quickenings, I would suggest using whatever licence points available to get them, and if you need, just go back to the sandsea to get some.

In my opinion, killing the first one is worth it. For the Demonsbane's you can acquire. They are very good swords for that stage in the game.

Anyway your best bet would be to start the battle with a quickening chain and hopefully a decent concurrence. Then use physical attacks until right near the end, and bring your reserve members in to do another quickening chain, again hopefully with a concurrence.

Make sure you set your gambits to attack nearest visible, that way, if the party leader is healing or whatever, the others will still attack it.

So Vaan, Fran, and Balthier are level 25 right now (everyone else is like... 17 lol) and I'm trying to take down the optional Demongate. I want that Demonsbane!

Any tips?

You are level 25 at that point? Good lord. I dunno what I was. I didnt buy any weapons or armour intil I had my ass handed to me by a few bosses around this point. I was so under leveled in this game it was crazy. I struggled with absolutly every boss lol.

You are level 25 at that point? Good lord. I dunno what I was. I didnt buy any weapons or armour intil I had my ass handed to me by a few bosses around this point. I was so under leveled in this game it was crazy. I struggled with absolutly every boss lol.

You might be mistaken, I've past that part already, I'm just going back to try and defeat the Demonwall for the kickass sword. Don't get me wrong, I do decent damage, yet I keep running out of time when he's > 5% life left. =/ If only that damn walkway was a little longer!

Ah thats not as bad then. Just go wild with quickening chains and you should be fine. i think my best is like 14 or something.

And I can't put the fucker down. Seriously, I've clocked like 16 hours in the last two days. This is, imo, the best FF to date.

Join the crowd. I'm on my first playthrough as well, though I'm a little further ahead.


Oh and Balthier, best character ever. EVER. Seriously, in the prison scene when he jumps in the pit, gives his hand motion with a smirk that just says "bring it, bitches," that did it for me. Plus he's always so witty and calm.

Wait till a little later on and you start finding out some of his background. Fucking. Awesome.

Wait till a little later on and you start finding out some of his background. Fucking. Awesome.

...Damnit! I got an hour before work and now I wanna play the shit out of this game! Argh...

Oh well, I guess I know what I'll be doing when I get off. Thank god I have no work tomorrow.

Lulz, I'm off tomorrow, too. I'm looking to transfer back to night shift (4:30p-3:00a, Tuesday thru Friday), which would give me a little more time to focus on my gaming. Of course, if things work out, I'll be starting my online program with DeVry to get my degree in Game/Sim programming, so it's kind of a double-edged sword there. At any rate, FFXII is crazy good so far for me.

Cool. I didn't like the story that much, but the grind isn't half bad. Glad you enjoy it. The later boss battles are pretty epic and somewhat scary. Be prepared.

You might be mistaken, I've past that part already, I'm just going back to try and defeat the Demonwall for the kickass sword. Don't get me wrong, I do decent damage, yet I keep running out of time when he's > 5% life left. =/ If only that damn walkway was a little longer!

I would switch members in and out based on who has quickenings and who doesn't. Switch out the people who have already used their quickening for someone who hasn't. After you can no longer use quickenings, just keep attacking. That's how I beat him (and several other bosses) anyways.

I also found that saving one quickening for the end of that battle helped too. Most bosses are very hard to beat when they're almost dead, so it's nice to have one person who can use a quickening out of battle until the end.

EDIT: You can't switch people out if they're being targeted. You'll know if they are if their name appears in red/pink letters rather than blue.

Hello all.
Yup, im addicted to this freakin game to.
I've clocked up nealy 100 hours since may 14th!
I've just spent the last week levelling up,all my characters are on level 39 and im still kicking around the jungle,oh and the mountain (cant remember the name of it)

Those damn "Hellhounds" holy shit they are tough cookies!!!
By the way "OP" when killing time levelling up, you may want to arm your characters with a Golden Amulet (accessories) you get double licence points while you are running around slaying!
Right, no work for me today coz i have the flu..so its FX11 time right now!

Gamefaqs has an auto-levelling guide involving a rare game in the Stilshrine of Miriam. By auto-levelling, I mean you can set the controller down and go do something else while your party levels up on perpetually spawning enemies. Two eight to ten hour shifts filled out everybody's license board and got my party to level 50. The process got me roughly a quarter million gil as well from selling loot (and Float Motes) after each "shift." The Warmage's Monograph helps in that regard, as well.

Embroidered Tippets (double EXP) are more important than Golden Amulets since it's relatively easy to fill your license board and less easy to level up. You can steal Tippets from Coeurls in the Tchita Uplands if you have Thief's Cuffs equipped.

Oh yeah? Well my 3 inactive characters are only level 14, 16, and 15 and they have half of their LBs filled up! HAHAHAHA!

On a side note... I wanna see how long until I can have those bastards filled up and still stay that low of levels. >=D

I'm going to attempt that fucking Demonwall again. I got Aero, Regen and Esuna. ~w00t~

I enjoyed slashing that demonwall to the ground!

lol at nsb becoming an FFXII fanboy.

If it happens, I'll proudly display the colors.

For now, I'm just a FFXII newbie who can't get enough.

I know I've got my fankid going at the moment.

Swami. I'm sure the method i posted earlier is foolproof. And others have advised on this boss. How are you still stuck? lol

Also, glad you're enjoying it. I should really continue with my save again. I might carry on with it tomorrow actually.

I think I'm stuck because I suck at using the licence board. Seriously my main characters mainly occupy the top half and hardly and of the bottom half. So for a little bit, I could only equip shitty gear, but I had FUCKING AWESOME abilities. XD

I think I'm stuck because I suck at using the licence board. Seriously my main characters mainly occupy the top half and hardly and of the bottom half. So for a little bit, I could only equip shitty gear, but I had FUCKING AWESOME abilities. XD

I was the same until the end of the game. At the end I had the top filled for every character, and almost the entire bottom for my main characters.

During my second "Perfect Game" playthrough, I'd go for all the equipment and abilities AS SOON as they became available, and everyone's license board was the same. So, without going out of my way for Quickenings, I had everyone license ONLY the stuff I owned, and everything I owned. Only when I got an ability or piece of equipment that I didn't have previously, I added it. And I didn't unlock Quickenings until I actually was adjacent to them using that method, but still that was not very long.

It's a pretty good method. However, bear in mind that by "as SOON as they became available", I mean as far as you can go without continuing the story. Like, I'd save and keep opening a chest that's supposed to contain an item I didn't have until getting it. And these chests include ones in places you could walk to before you were even meant to. Like as soon as you could leave Rabanastre, I'd get every obtainable piece of equipment in chests in the Westersand that I didn't have, and even go as far as the ones in Zertinan Caverns, constantly running of course. And right before you're supposed to go to Jahara for the first time to continue the story, it was possible to go as far as Mosphoran Highwaste and the Salikawood, so getting everything there while running was fun.

But I thought I might add (especially for you Swami), even in that game I waited to get the Demonsbane after advancing a little further. If that's not enough, I was also stronger than average, because in that game I did this thing where in every area I'd fight/steal all the possible loot to obtain until I'd have as many as I'd ever need in the whole game to complete all the bazaar recipes which use it. Thanks to that I was never underleveled (I usually outleveled all the MANDATORY bosses), and even in that situation I gave in to waiting till later to beat that other wall.

Anywho, update!

I kicked the wall's ass. I had Fran spam Aero then used quickenings, then finished with another. Easier with Aero for sure. I also got the Demonsbane and damn is it powerful!

I just got done with Judge... crazy guy with 2 swords (forgot the name) And now I have to travel halfway across the world. So I figured I'd take a small break for now.

My mains are all level 32, btw. I'm not sure how that fits with the general level scheme of the area, but I think I'm about 2 levels above what the norm would be?

Anywho, the bosses are kinda cake since I figured out the whole licence board and getting GOOD armor. In fact, I make it a point to not use quickenings as it'll make the boss too easy. I'm not saying I can leave the controller down and walk away then poof, battle over. But it doesn't require me to think much into it.

The only boss I've had trouble with was Vossler, but that's because my healer/magic user was Fran. Her starting the battle in berserk was not very good for me.

The forest dragon thing was fun. Except for Larsa's pansy ass dying every 5 seconds. He's got around 880HP and my party members are in the 1500-2000 range.

I also lol'd when Balthier was like, "Larsa, you don't even know your dad!" then 10 minutes later from Al-Cid, "Larsa, your dad's dead." Double whammy.

Finally I would like to say that the Mateus was a major annoyance. Why? Because those fucking ice clouds. "Weak to Thunder" Okay! *casts Thunder* WTF? 0 DAMAGE?! *casts Thundara* WTF? 200 DAMAGE?! *Hits with sword* WTF? 800 DAMAGE? Seriously the tooltip needs to say, "Weakness: [Sword Symbol]"

I forgot to mention another reason why this is the best FF to date, imo.

You get to kill chocobos! Not sure if this is a FF first, but it's a first for me. It's unusually entertaining.

You could kill them in Tactics as well.

No shit?

Ivalice is awesome!

Killing off establish Final Fantasy icons is how Matsuno deals with Square Enix forcing him to put androgynous non-characters into his games.

I can't wait until Moogles are next! :D

If you want to know what your general level should be have a character use Libra and see what the monsters' levels are. I usually stayed 3-5 levels ahead of the monsters.

I can't wait until Moogles are next! :D

Easy, bro. Moogles are the shit, kupo!

If you want to know what your general level should be have a character use Libra and see what the monsters' levels are. I usually stayed 3-5 levels ahead of the monsters.
I know, but just for curious I looked in the strat guide too see the writer's characters at oe point I had already past. My guys are double the HP and MP of theirs so i figured I was OP, lol. Plus the guide always warned of difficulty and I hardly have any. Are boss levels determined by your own?


Easy, bro. Moogles are the shit, kupo!

Doesn't mean they're untouchable!!!

I'm not sure we've had a game where you can kill Moogles. Maybe in Tactics Advance somewhere.

I doubt it... =/

I forgot to mention another reason why this is the best FF to date, imo.

You get to kill chocobos! Not sure if this is a FF first, but it's a first for me. It's unusually entertaining.

You get to kill Chocobos in X-2 as well.

Forsrs?

Had you not mentioned in that other thread that you hadn't played it I wouldn't be able to tell whether that was sarcasm... but yes, you get to KO them and watch them turn into pyreflies like every other fiend. ;)

Had you not mentioned in that other thread that you hadn't played it I wouldn't be able to tell whether that was sarcasm... but yes, you get to KO them and watch them turn into pyreflies like every other fiend. ;)

lol. I forgot about that. Don't they run away if you don't kill them fast enough (or if you attack a different monster before them?)

They should definitely get some kind of Moogle boss or something in a future FF. I thought FFXII's system would have made say, a moogle support character a good idea, but they didn't go for it.

(ftr....this is in response to the moogle/chocobo killing discussion above, I arrived here from a post link so didn't check the third page)

Rabid Moogles, that'd be awesome.

And I can't put the fucker down. Seriously, I've clocked like 16 hours in the last two days. This is, imo, the best FF to date.

Oh and Balthier, best character ever. EVER. Seriously, in the prison scene when he jumps in the pit, gives his hand motion with a smirk that just says "bring it, bitches," that did it for me. Plus he's always so witty and calm.

Only problem I'm having is getting gil for the expensive equipment. Other than that, this game is truly awesome.

I don't know what everyone's beef is with the story, btw, Seems to flow at just the right pace, imo.

My main party is Vaan(19), Balthier(20) and Fran(20). Vaan is tank, Balthier is support and Fran is healer. Works out great, except when I run out of potions/phoenix downs ;_;

FTR, the only guest I have enjoyed having was Larsa. At least he fucking helps with healing instead of just attacking. FUCK YOU VOSSLER! FUCK YOU TO HELL!

Oh yeah, i know what you mean. I've had that game for awhile. But I got the collector's edition about a week ago. I played for about 25 hours within two days. (Whew..!) I know, you CANNOT stop playing it. Almost impossible. Balthier is the coolest guy in the game. Try to stop playing it man! I know it's hard, you can do it!!!

So I'm level 34 now and my current save is right outside of the area where the optional boss, King Bomb, resides. Currently, I'm just running back and forth stealing his shit and laughing while I'm doing it.

I tried fighting him, just to get a feel for it. At first it was easy-peasy. He and his minions were dealing 100-200 damage a turn, no biggie. Then I killed one of the mini-bombs and alluva sudden I'm getting smacked around like a prostitute who forgot to pay her pimp. Twice. Seriously, King Bomb headbutts me for 2k+ damage... on 4 seperate occasions. That's an instant KO for all my characters, except for maybe Balthier. Needless to say, I will be waiting until I try this fucker again. You win this round, King Bomb!

As a side lol, my inactive characters each have 1k LP each.

Switch your attack Gambit to Foe: Highest Max HP. The little bombs will be ignored in favor of big papa. When he gets to HP Critical, he uses Restore or some bullshit like that to fully heal his HP. I'm not sure if he can only use it so many times or what, because once he did it three or four times, I just waited till he got close again and finished him with a Quickening.

Wanna beat him? Silence him. ;) I did it and he didn't even call the little bombs. (If I remember correctly, it's been a while, I'm beating Yiazmat now).

King Bomb is a turd. It took me forever to hack away at his HP and then the bugger used Restore. I learned my lesson though. When his HP bar got to the same place the second time around I used Quickenings and finished him off.

If you have a wickedly strong mage you can use ice magick. It works well on the big bomb and the little bombs. Usually KOs the little bombs in one hit too.


Are boss levels determined by your own?
I have no idea. Sorry.

Are boss levels determined by your own?

No, they're not.

Switch your attack Gambit to Foe: Highest Max HP. The little bombs will be ignored in favor of big papa. When he gets to HP Critical, he uses Restore or some bullshit like that to fully heal his HP. I'm not sure if he can only use it so many times or what, because once he did it three or four times, I just waited till he got close again and finished him with a Quickening.

Fuck that. If I don't kill the little bombs, he could create a chain asplode.

Wanna beat him? Silence him. ;) I did it and he didn't even call the little bombs. (If I remember correctly, it's been a while, I'm beating Yiazmat now).

Ae you sure? I mean... realy sure? Because I DISTINCTLY remember the little bombs being there from the intro cinema!

No, they're not.

Well... that's disheartening.

Fuck that. If I don't kill the little bombs, he could create a chain asplode.


Ae you sure? I mean... realy sure? Because I DISTINCTLY remember the little bombs being there from the intro cinema!


Well... that's disheartening.


Kill all but one of the little bombs, it helped me with that battle.

Yeah, it's kinda sad that the bosses don't level up, or even the creatures like in Tactics (PS1.) : (
It's still an amazing game though. : )

Have any of the games ever had Moogles as a battle target? Not necessarily an enemy or boss... just a target. Because they've had just about everything else.

Don't you get to fight moogle sky pirates in Revenant Wings?

You can target Mog the Moogle in VI.

Anywho, update! I'm in the P..P.. the coast! (I'm bad with names) My guys are level 34 and I happily found a Platinum Sword off the first veggie-head I killed.

I plan to take out all the marks so far when my next playtime starts. With the monies, I'll be able to buy some much needed new armor. Maybe weapons.

Phon Coast

NSK sounds like me, Neg, with the Tchita something-or-another-lands, lulz.

haha, yeah ^_^

So I've done most of the available hunts up to this point.

I'd first like to say, to hell with the White Mousse! Mother fucker almost wiped me twice.

Other than that, easy breezy beautiful cov-- uh... it was a cinche!

Time to travel to Archadia and continue on the story! =D (after some provisions are purchased, of course)

Did you beat the White Mousse? It's hard to tell, haha.

It is hella worth it...

Yes I did.

Ye Balthier is cool, one of the highlights of the game to be honest. Makes me laugh and being a Brit myself (he's slightly modelled on a cross between French and British behaviour/manorism) it's quite nice to see a character like it in FF ^^.

To explain the beef most have with the story (and me too) it's not something you'll have issues with generally until you've gotten a fair way through the game. FFXII starts off great, IMO, but as you progress further it feels as though the story lags out a little bit over the large expanses of "grinding through a massive field to get to your next location". Cutscenes become a seldom occurrance and many of the characters don't even seem to be flashed out AT ALL (Penelo, anyone?).

I think the most frustrating thing with FFXII is that I can't even say the story is bad and I hate it...because I don't! The story itself is great I think but that's just the problem, for a story that is great...there's not enough of it!!!

If you're fine with that though then you'll thoroughly enjoy it I think.

Lol my main party was just Vaan, Basch, and Fran. I leveled them to 60, then I was like, "I want that Sky Pirates Den Figurine!". So I whipe out Ashe, 17, Penelo, 13, and Balthier 27. They all had like 5k LP lol. But when I started playing as them I couldn't stop lol. Balthier is probably my favorite now, but I'm kinda startin to like Penelo lol. So once I final got everyone to lvl 50+ I got Ashe's Sky Pirates Figurine. Woot! lol.

Holy hell, what a late update!

So yesterday out of sheer randomness I decided to pop FFXII in my PS3 and play again. Apparently I was supposed to go to Feywood to chase Dr. Cid again. So after an hour at the Cerobi Steppe, I looked at the walkthrough to figure out where the fuck to go.

All was good and well in the land of Feywood. I kicked every creature's ass I came across. Except for a certain special enemy by the name of "Juggernaut." He seemed to toss Vaan and Balthier around like he was tossing salads. It's a good thing Fran has Raise on a Gambit.

Speaking of salads, that fucking plant boss you fight that drains your MP. LAME! I mean, I won on the first try, due to me having the "wait" option and seeing that warning sign the instant the battle started. But still, I had to walk back to the save crystal afterwards to refill everything, something I rarely do in this game (directly after boss fights). I'm just nit-picking anyways.

Right now I'm saved in the ancient city of girguvegenbalfarbgkmgk(sp?). The adventures of half of a group continue! (Because Basch, Penelo, and Ashe can fuck off)

Speaking of salads, that fucking plant boss you fight that drains your MP. LAME! I mean, I won on the first try, due to me having the "wait" option and seeing that warning sign the instant the battle started. But still, I had to walk back to the save crystal afterwards to refill everything, something I rarely do in this game (directly after boss fights). I'm just nit-picking anyways.

Right now I'm saved in the ancient city of girguvegenbalfarbgkmgk(sp?). The adventures of half of a group continue! (Because Basch, Penelo, and Ashe can fuck off)

1) If you enjoyed the fight with that guy that drains MP, wait until you go after the summons...some of them can be quite fun in similar ways.

2) I think you had an extra "k" in there somewhere. :) ("girguvegenbalfarbgkmgk(sp?)")

3) You will make Basch, Penelo, and Ashe cry if you leave them out. Although, i did do the same thing to Penelo, Balthier, and Fran.

Basch, Ashe, and Penelo are actually pretty useful characters. Ashe and Penelo's stat-gain formulas are such that they have a comparative advantage for casting magic. Basch's strength stat-gain is comparable to Vaan's. I just hope you haven't stuck Balthier with the gun-his firing animation has a bigger time delay than the other characters. (hey, you said you were being nit-picky)

Seriously, if it weren't for Fran's stunning little rabbit-ass, I wouldn't have used her at all.

Basch, Ashe, and Penelo are actually pretty useful characters. Ashe and Penelo's stat-gain formulas are such that they have a comparative advantage for casting magic. Basch's strength stat-gain is comparable to Vaan's. I just hope you haven't stuck Balthier with the gun-his firing animation has a bigger time delay than the other characters. (hey, you said you were being nit-picky)

Seriously, if it weren't for Fran's stunning little rabbit-ass, I wouldn't have used her at all.

Meh, aside from stats (which barely make a difference if you keep everyone even), they're pretty much all the same. I know they're not really and they specialize in different things, and how Basch supposedly makes a good tank, but to me they're all the same. Also I taught everyone at a time everything I had as I got it on the license board as they went along during my last playthrough.
Their quickenings are the only moves exclusive to them and they all do the same thing, you just decide in what order to let them have all three.

Seriously, if you're at a good enough level, stats, which are the only things that differentiate characters, don't even matter anymore.

But as far as stats go, Fran really IS the one that got the shaft. Each of the characters has a certain advantage stat-wise, but Fran has none.

Each of the characters has a certain advantage stat-wise, but Fran has none.

Yep, she's basically the Kimahri of XII.

So I guess I'm done at the ancient city, I just need to fucking leave... Though RPG experience tells me something is waiting for me when I get back to the entrance. Fuck all...

Also... I think I should challenge myself a bit more in this game. Bosses are a fucking breeze and I just got the license for Bubble so no one can even come close to KOing any character now. I still love XII. :3

Maybe you should try one of the challenge runs, like no-weapons or 122333.

1222333 is really only fun in the mid-game. The beginning requires HOURS of ether- and mote-farming, and the endgame relies on weapons. Oh, and if you want to beat Yiazmat, you have to spend like, 36 hours shooting at him.

Enforced character classes make the game a bit more challenging. As does a complete run-through, leaving no sidequest unturned and no weapon unsynthesized. :)

1222333 is really only fun in the mid-game. The beginning requires HOURS of ether- and mote-farming, and the endgame relies on weapons. Oh, and if you want to beat Yiazmat, you have to spend like, 36 hours shooting at him.

Enforced character classes make the game a bit more challenging. As does a complete run-through, leaving no sidequest unturned and no weapon unsynthesized. :)

Are you telling me you actually beat Yiazmat in 122333?

Are you telling me you actually beat Yiazmat in 122333?

Good heavens no! But I have read that the only real strategy at such low levels is 3 Fohmalhauts + 3 Dark shots.