Locke_FF36
05-23-2008, 04:55 AM
I just bought Suikoden 1, in a Game Force for 39.99. What a hell of a buy. Was just going to see how many people here were familiar and what everyones favorite game out of this series is.

All I need is Suikoden 2, and I will own them all.

J. Peterman
05-23-2008, 04:57 AM
man big props you are my favorite member for the rest of the day

sup bff

Locke go vote for Trilo in PW Rumble you do I'll make you a card or sth like a crazy character plz my homie u r awesome kthx

Ngrplz
05-23-2008, 05:10 AM
yeah Garamond mate, Im still waiting for mine ;)

J. Peterman
05-23-2008, 05:21 AM
i'm going to making a request thread after everybody votes and stuff

then you can request whatever

doomjockey
05-23-2008, 05:26 AM
Sweet. I remember when I found Suikoden I at a Wherehouse music store in '97ish for about $20 US. I was nearly put off by the graphics, having just played FFVII, but I'm glad I didn't cave to such a shallow perception.

I'd say part II easily ranks as my favourite among them because I and II were connected in so many ways besides the ever present Flik and Viktor. The story was better too, and ended on a more personal note.

Locke_FF36
05-23-2008, 07:41 PM
Suikoden 2 is the last one im after. I hear thats a little toughter to find than Suikoden 1. What a hell of a grab tho, im still flabergasted i found it.

arthurgolden
05-23-2008, 08:22 PM
For me, Suikoden I has the slight edge on II because it was given to me as a gift way back when it first came out and I had no expectations. So I have nostalgia for it, plus all that residual surprise and excitement and the feeling I had of having discovered a great game that I didn't think anyone else knew about. But II is great as well.

beat
05-24-2008, 02:15 PM
I just bought Suikoden 1, in a Game Force for 39.99. What a hell of a buy. Was just going to see how many people here were familiar and what everyones favorite game out of this series is.

All I need is Suikoden 2, and I will own them all.

One of the best RPG series out there. You got Suikoden 1 for mad cheap! I'm jealous. I'm missing that one and Suikoden IV. I've played them all tho.

Suikoden 2 is probably the best one of them all.

Locke_FF36
05-24-2008, 05:40 PM
One of the best RPG series out there. You got Suikoden 1 for mad cheap! I'm jealous. I'm missing that one and Suikoden IV. I've played them all tho.

Suikoden 2 is probably the best one of them all.

yes very cheap, every time I see it on ebay its more than 150$ at least. Right place at the right time i guess, I also got Breath of Fire 3, and Wild Arms 1 that day haha.

doomjockey
05-24-2008, 05:46 PM
Jesus. 150 bucks?

I didn't know it was such a coveted treasure! Hell, I feel like a pretty good collector about now. I've had most of what you've mentioned for years now.

Except Suikoden II, which I'm pretty sure my friend sold after I allowed him to borrow it.

Locke_FF36
05-24-2008, 06:06 PM
yea just look on ebay or amazon, its usually over 150, sometimes a little less, yea i've never seen any suikodens in a store besides suikoden IV

beat
05-25-2008, 01:53 PM
yes very cheap, every time I see it on ebay its more than 150$ at least. Right place at the right time i guess, I also got Breath of Fire 3, and Wild Arms 1 that day haha.

Wow. you're frickin kidding me. Lol

Breath of Fire 3 is one of my fav RPGs ever. I never played Wild Arms 1, but I know it must be expensive now. You're a lucky bastard. Haha

Locke_FF36
05-26-2008, 05:24 PM
Wow. you're frickin kidding me. Lol

Breath of Fire 3 is one of my fav RPGs ever. I never played Wild Arms 1, but I know it must be expensive now. You're a lucky bastard. Haha

Yeah. Gotta shop those hole in the wall non corporate video game stores once in a while. Thats where you find these games, idiots at the counter who have no idea what they have in there store.

J. Peterman
05-29-2008, 03:25 AM
suikoden is great

Megy
07-18-2008, 12:11 AM
I haven't played Suikoden I but I played Suikoden II and I couldn't kill Luca Blight :(

Qqqqqqwe
07-18-2008, 01:26 AM
Edit

execrable gumwrapper
07-18-2008, 01:53 AM
Suikoden is going to be released on the PSN store as a PSOne classic in the future.

Just a little FYI.

J. Peterman
07-18-2008, 01:55 AM
I already have that game.

fyi

Nazi Cinnamon Spider
07-30-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm superkeen for the next Suikoden game, wherever it may end up. I didn't think too much of 3 and 4, but 5 was easily as good as 2 was :D

beat
07-30-2008, 11:04 PM
Suikoden is going to be released on the PSN store as a PSOne classic in the future.

Just a little FYI.

I did not know. I like this news.

Arkhetype
08-29-2008, 05:31 PM
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37.l1313&satitle=Suikoden+II&category0=

Look at the price for the strategy guide.

The only Suikoden I do not have is the Japanese Card Game version for GBA. Iam not a fan of card games on consoles.

Suikoden is a land mark game. It is a game that took some concepts from Shining Force and Mixed them with the Phantasy Star games on the Sega Genesis and made it wonderfully. I have never played an RPG like this before. When I got the 1st it was in 2000 or so, and I think I paid around $14-$20. I had already purchased the second game in the series. I picked up the first because of how well I thought of the second. Needless to say its been a good series of RPGs.

Suikoden V is the one in the bunch that is the worst. It sits in my Entertainment center collecting dust. The slow load time for battles are horrible. The character collecting was much harder then the 4 installments prior, which is not a problem. (anyone who ever did the trading, playing some of the characters mini-games, and going back through a huge dungeon to gain friends knows exactly what I mean.) The game just felt like it lacked that Suikoden feeling.

Oh well,

Good find, We have places out here called The Exchange. Its nice to find something you know is a classic.

God Bless

Nazi Cinnamon Spider
09-04-2008, 05:14 AM
Uh..Suikoden IV was MUCH worse than Suikoden V. V was as good as II, imho.
Of course, if you're still out-dated and playing games from disc, I guess the load times could be a tad longer. But get with the times, mang.

Xephus
09-07-2008, 09:42 AM
Suikoden I and II are amazing RPGs. Thankfully I bought both on day 1 and since I don't sell my old games I still have them in mint condition. :)

III was a bit annoying...seemed more kiddy than I and II was. IV I never played because everyone told me it sucked, but I recently picked up V for $20 off Amazon and I'm liking it thus far. Definitely one of the better RPG series.

gironimo appleton
09-19-2008, 10:20 PM
Suikoden I was all I played for a good chunk of my life.

Edit: It was at this point in my life where I realized that virtual reality just didn't exist yet.

beat
09-30-2008, 04:21 PM
So the next Suikoden will be realeased for the DS?

CLICK (http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/genso/tierkreis/index.php)

Apparently so. I was actually disappointed in hearing that it was not to be released for a next-gen console, but any Suikoden is better than no Suikoden (Yes, even IV).

So far I have no idea how the game is going to look like graphically. I am thinking sprites? That would be awesome. It would be great if they did, as that would bring back the old Suikoden I and II style.

Konami is keeping this game under wraps, but it seems more will be unveiled at the Tokyo Game Show (Oct.9th - 12th).

Locke_FF36
10-01-2008, 04:08 PM
Yes and supposedly its coming to the US.

I thought Suikoden 3 was really good.

beat
11-27-2008, 03:27 AM
The new DS Suikoden game has some new screen shots. I'm still not feeling the 3d sprites. Gawd they look horrendous.



It hardly has the likeness of the avatar for the character!
Maybe I'm being too picky, but it seems like they didn't really put a lot of effort into the sprites.

Ngrplz
11-27-2008, 03:31 AM
The problem is that the DS does sensational 2D but lacks in 3D modelling.

Leave 3D to the PSP and 2D for the DS.

beat
11-27-2008, 03:40 AM
Good point. Which still leaves me perplexed as to why it wasn't developed for the PSP at least.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for this title to not disappoint...even if it will probably have horrible sales no matter how good or bad it is.

koroyami
11-30-2008, 11:18 PM
I just bought Suikoden 1, in a Game Force for 39.99. What a hell of a buy. Was just going to see how many people here were familiar and what everyones favorite game out of this series is.

All I need is Suikoden 2, and I will own them all.

well for me Suikoden II is the best from all the Suikoden series
i played and finished every game from the Suikoden series
from I to V including tactics
Suikoden II one of the best RPG games ever

koroyami
11-30-2008, 11:21 PM
Yes and supposedly its coming to the US.

I thought Suikoden 3 was really good.

yes Suikoden III is one the best RPG games

beat
04-05-2009, 10:25 PM
Suikoden Tierkreis for DS is surprisingly good.

It still isn't as good as 1,2 3, or 5, but it sure deserves a playthrough. It has nothing to do with the others in the series. So just think of this as a Suikoden side-project.

Locke_FF36
04-14-2009, 07:03 PM
I'm about 1 hour into Tierkreis, voice acting is kind of annoying, but everything else is great, It should be good

beat
04-15-2009, 06:12 AM
Yeah they sound like they are on Speed or something lol.

But it either got better as the game went on OR I just got used to it. Don't mind it anymore.

The character sprites aren't that great, but the environments are very well done. Music is pretty good too.

countapart
04-19-2009, 11:20 PM
bought the f1st suikoden in 2001 for cheap not knowing what a gem of a game i had by the time i had completed it suikoden 2 was pretty rare to find in PAL, anyway my suikoden 1 broke forked out �60.00 which aint bad still looking for suikoden 2 though been playing suikoden 5 for awhile best ive played out of the series so far impressed by the improvements since the first.

Locke_FF36
04-21-2009, 01:08 AM
bought the f1st suikoden in 2001 for cheap not knowing what a gem of a game i had by the time i had completed it suikoden 2 was pretty rare to find in PAL, anyway my suikoden 1 broke forked out �60.00 which aint bad still looking for suikoden 2 though been playing suikoden 5 for awhile best ive played out of the series so far impressed by the improvements since the first.

I can't find Suikoden 2 for less than 200$. Thats the only one I need

Locke_FF36
04-21-2009, 01:08 AM
Yeah they sound like they are on Speed or something lol.

But it either got better as the game went on OR I just got used to it. Don't mind it anymore.

The character sprites aren't that great, but the environments are very well done. Music is pretty good too.

Yeah the music is great. Its enjoyable, they do sound like there on speed lol, especially the main 'hero'

ChazA4
04-21-2009, 05:56 AM
I haven't played Suikoden I but I played Suikoden II and I couldn't kill Luca Blight :(

The entire game was a cakewalk compared to beating Luca Blight. No one can deny that this man(WAS he 'just' a man?!?) is one of the all-time greatest villains in VG history. First, he practically oozed psychotic rage(who can forget the infamous "DIE PIG!!!" quote?). Second, he was the first villain in a while who just wanted to wreck crit up. Third, the battle. OMG, the battle! Barrage of arrows, followed by three fights against six people each, ANOTHER barrage of arrows, and a duel, followed by one of the freakiest speeches heard in a long time.

To be perfectly honest, I was almost disappointed by the rest of the game because it seemed almost...anticlimactic.

And yes, good luck getting Suikoden 2 for under $100. In all honesty, I can only suggest this: build an intelligence network at your local vid stores. If you build up enough of a friendship with those people, they can be a godsend in helping you find rare games...truth told, it's how I got my copy of Suikoden 2 for 45 dollars almost 4 years ago, among other rare games.

I should really get back to them, too. Suikoden 3 is near the end of the main arc(I've finished everyone's 'separate' stories, at least), and Suikoden 5...well, I've only just been chased out of my home, so I have QUITE a ways to go on that one.

countapart
04-22-2009, 12:28 AM
I can't find Suikoden 2 for less than 200$. Thats the only one I need

in that case i should count myself lucky ive been looking on ebay for months every time suikoden 2 pops up at a cheap price i always miss it or dont have the money! last week it slipped from me again was on auction and nobody had bid on it could of bought for less then �10! well i still want to get suikoden 3 which i can now since i got a ntsc ps2(yes!) still making up my mind on suikoden 4 though whats that one like? also anyone got those suikoden vols that were on ps1?

beat
04-22-2009, 06:21 AM
Suikoden IV...not worth it. Every series has it's travesty. This is it for Suikoden.

Locke_FF36
04-22-2009, 07:58 PM
Suikoden IV...not worth it. Every series has it's travesty. This is it for Suikoden.

Agreed, but its still worth one play through IMO.

ChazA4
04-22-2009, 10:59 PM
I'd heard that the biggest problem with #4 was it's travel mechanism(ship sailing). Just HOW bad was it? I've been so 'scared off' by stories that I never took the time to rent it, and now I don't even wanna buy it for completing my set...

Locke_FF36
04-23-2009, 11:12 PM
I'd heard that the biggest problem with #4 was it's travel mechanism(ship sailing). Just HOW bad was it? I've been so 'scared off' by stories that I never took the time to rent it, and now I don't even wanna buy it for completing my set...

yes the sailing took a LOOOOONG ass time. Thats the main thing that bogs it down, all the damn sailing you have to do, but the thing about it, after about 12 to 15 hours 'Vicki' joins you and you can teleport, make sure you have a map of some sort! I have the players guide so it wasnt so bad, it just takes forever, like I said its worth at least one playthough.

Tactics was way better

vorvel
04-24-2009, 04:38 PM
The sailing in IV wasn't all bad, but indeed it was bloody long. What was really good in IV was the mini games. I loved Ritapon. :] My favorite suikoden is tied with 2 and 3. I still have yet to finish suikoden 1 but I have completed everything else that has come out in the western world.

Such a shame that I live in Australia... I had to do the bad thing and download them all. ;_; I finished Tierkreis a couple of weeks back and it was well worth the play through. Its quite tightly packed for a DS game. Its bloody huge! 108 characters in a ds game felt quite absurd for me. Amazing how they fit all that in.

Any fans of suikoden should give tierkreis a try. It feels nothing like a spin-off and it really answers a few questions about the suikoden universe in general.

Y�ti
04-25-2009, 10:36 AM
I'm currently playing Suikoden Tierkreis (I just played the V) and it's sooooooo gooooooood. It's good and modern compared to FFIV, it's beautiful, the music is gorgeous...

I was very surprised... I'm loving it ^^

countapart
04-26-2009, 07:18 PM
well i see most are in agreement with the problems of suikoden 4 eh still i'd give it a try just because im trying to collect 1-5 looking to get tierkreis soon, so which hero from the series do you think is the best? the one from 5 is my fave so far

Locke_FF36
04-26-2009, 08:12 PM
Definitely the Hero's from Suikoden 3.

ChazA4
04-27-2009, 07:11 AM
It would be a three way tie between S3's heroes, Tir McDohl(S1), and the Prince(S5).

As for another question related to Suikoden...which hero do you think got the biggest shaft in the series? As in, who suffered the most as they grew their army, claimed their True Rune, and brought 'peace and justice over the land'? Let's ignore any resurrection feats that took place if you got all 108 stars by a certain point, please.

I'd have to say it's a tie between Riou(S2), and the Prince(S5). Things just couldn't have gotten any worse for EITHER of them when the game really started.

Locke_FF36
04-28-2009, 10:54 PM
I was going to say Hugo, But I haven't the money to fork for Suikoden2 so I'm not sure on that one

ChazA4
04-29-2009, 07:03 AM
I can send you a quick synopsis of Riou's thorough shafting if you wish, Locke.

I do agree Hugo suffered quite a bit, though.

Locke_FF36
04-29-2009, 09:30 PM
I can send you a quick synopsis of Riou's thorough shafting if you wish, Locke.

I do agree Hugo suffered quite a bit, though.

Thats alright man, i will own it one day.

Darth Revan
05-11-2009, 03:52 AM
I've been a fan of the Suikoden series, since the first game.

Suikoden, imo, was a awesome game. Short, but still awesome. The story was quite good, if over used in games/books/etc now, but still had a 'freshness' to it.

Suikoden II was godlike for one reason... The Iron Chef minigame ^^ I love that show (The original Asian version, not the American version). Gameplay was quite solid, and the graphics topped things off nicely.

Suikoden III never came to Australia... not happy about that.

Suikoden IV... I did not like this one. The random encounter rate seemed to of been set to hyper mode. Go two steps, Random Encounter. On your boat, sail for 2 seconds, random encounter. then another. then another... all in the span of 30 seconds or so (seemed like 30 seconds to me...).

Suikoden Tactics... was meh imo. Konami trying to rehash what they had with Vandal Hearts I and II, but with Suikoden. It was ok I guess... just average.

Suikoden V, I'm still playing. Seems to of gone back to how Suikoden I and II style... but with better graphics and gameplay. Some battles though are frustrating to say the least.

Also, with Konami having the games in the following time line is nice... i guess..

Suikoden Tactics >> Suikoden IV >> Suikoden Tactics >> Suikoden V >> Suikoden I >> Suikoden II >> Suikoden III

I've seen info about the Suikoden on the DS. I admit, at this point in time I don't like it. That may change when the game is released and I've had a chance to play it though.

Locke_FF36
05-11-2009, 03:13 PM
Oh man Suikoden III is amazing, I can't believe australia didnt get that

Hayden
05-12-2009, 08:25 AM
Suikoden I and II are sooo good, Suikoden II is like one of my favorite RPGs (I've been wanting to play through it again but I don't really have any time until like july).

Locke_FF36
05-12-2009, 04:39 PM
Im hoping they put Suikoden 2 on the Playstation network, and then hopefully that would devalue the hard copy a little bit. Thats what happend to Suikoden 1.

adrianskye
06-14-2009, 02:37 PM
I would have to say IV is my favorite so far but I haven't played 1 or 2 yet.

countapart
06-14-2009, 10:41 PM
update... finally after all these years I managed to get suikoden 2! but first I have to complete suikoden 1 again because I got rid of my save data from when I first completed it with all 108 stars...d'oh

Locke_FF36
06-15-2009, 04:39 PM
I would have to say IV is my favorite so far but I haven't played 1 or 2 yet.

You haven't played anothers if IV is your fave lol.

You got Suikoden 2 countapart? how much did you drop?

countapart
06-15-2009, 05:23 PM
^^^ about �70, that just about $113 thats the most i've ever spent on a video game i was expecting to spend about �50-65 on suikoden 2, could've bought it for less saw it on ebay for �55 once too bad i missed it though

Number667
06-19-2009, 03:56 AM
Y'know, I impulse shopped for video games back in the day, and managed to get Suikoden II for 20 bucks at a wal-mart, when it was still relatively new. BEST. FIND. EVER.

Locke_FF36
06-24-2009, 10:19 PM
Y'know, I impulse shopped for video games back in the day, and managed to get Suikoden II for 20 bucks at a wal-mart, when it was still relatively new. BEST. FIND. EVER.

Well yeah lol. I didn't know walmart even carried it back in the day.

rant17
09-22-2009, 02:37 PM
Wow. you're frickin kidding me. Lol

Breath of Fire 3 is one of my fav RPGs ever. I never played Wild Arms 1, but I know it must be expensive now. You're a lucky bastard. Haha

Wild Arms, i've played it one the psp, it was fun but i have no idea why i suddenly stopped....i guess it deserves the big sreen eh

Darth Revan
10-12-2009, 03:43 PM
Wild Arms, i've played it one the psp, it was fun but i have no idea why i suddenly stopped....i guess it deserves the big sreen eh

I only played the first Wild Arms, which was great imo. Wild Arms 2 I never got a hold of, and Wild Arms 3... well, less said of that the better.

Back to topic at hand... I just started Suikoden II again, and I'm once again annoyed. Those damn flying squirrels with the capes... I was told you can get about 4-5 of them joining you, is this true?

Luthiel
12-17-2009, 05:33 AM
Hello,

My favorite series so far. Still loving it after all those years. I can't wait for some kind of announcement about a new one in the near future.

Eshvoide
12-22-2009, 09:07 AM
I never did play those Suikoden games that featured Nash as the main character (but it wasn't an RPG style game though more like an adventure game sorta). I've played all of them except Tactics. I have the game, but haven't gotten to playing it, or did I start it... I can't remember...