I am having SOOOOO much trouble killing them.
It's actually killing me slowly I reckon.
Any information, ANYTHING that ANYONE can give me at all would be really very appreciated.
Strategies, systems - I don't care.
I just wanna kill the ^@$%#&*s.
Oh, and, I need a good place to level up.
Like some place at the end of the game where I can just keep levelling and levelling, because I'm at the end of the game on like level sixty and it's annoying.
Much love. <3

Level info doesn't help much. What sort of sidequests have you done -- what materia and weapons, armor, accessories, etc., do you have available? Also, did you get the Underwater materia to disable the time limit on the Emerald battle?

And the best way to general leveling and AP building is the North Cave with the Magic Pots / Movers / Tonberries.

Have two materia (possibly Final Attack + Phenoix) on one of your characters with 9999 HP. When that person gets hit with Aire Tam Attack (correct me if I'm wrong), volia, they will take 2222 damage and go into 7777 crazy-fuck-you-up mode. I don't know how they can use limits during the time, so yeah like umm...

The best place to level up would be the left-upper path in the Northern Crater in the swamp. Just make sure you don't go down the final part of the Northern Crater.

Also, in order to get the Underwater materia mentioned by Agent, go to the underwater mako reactor passageway in Junon and morph a Ghost Ship in order to get a Guide Book. Give it to an old guy in Kalm and he'll give ya the Underwater materia.

Yeah I'm working on the ghost ship people but they annoy the crap out of me.
Haha problem is getting to the 9999hp mode.
Imma go try the left upper path thingy now.
My problem is getting back up at the end of running around the crater.
I tried once.
Couldn't find the right spot to cliiimmb. :(

DID YOU KNOW THERE IS A GLITCH WHERE YOU CAN GET 2 MEGA-ALLS WITHOUT DUPLICATING IT FIRST?

Fuck Phoenix/FA. And you don't even need to do the 7777 thing.

I'm gonna assume you have Mime and KotR and Quadra Magic... get those with a Gold Chocobo if you don't.

The only thing you'll need to have leveled is a single HP Plus Materia or two.

For Emerald:

Have someone who is NOT your tank with this setup: W-Summon, KotR/HP Absorb, Quadra Magic/Bahamut ZERO. Or you could scrap BZ/QM.
As for the tank, just give him Mime and HP Plus.
Have the non-tank start by W-Summoning BZ and KotR. BZ will attack four times and KotR will heal each time after. Either that, or just Summon KotR twice, it'll come regardless of whether leveled and heal you.

For the rest of the battle, have the tank Mime this combo. If the other party members die, DON'T revive them. It'll mess up the Mime chain, plus, the tank will keep being healed by KotR. And, as the tank is the only one alive wearing only two materia, Aire Tam Storm will only go 2222. No big deal if your HP isn't 9999 and you can't do the 7777 thing, the thing usually uses Revenge stamp right before ATS anyway. Anyway it should heal you greatly each time you attack.

And as before don't use Phoenix/FA, because it'll mess up the Mime chain so what's the point. That and you won't be able to repeat it if KotR isn't leveled.

And... Ruby:

First of all the tank should enter this battle alone with the other two dead so he can't use the sandstorm thing and blow anyone away. This time have the tank with W-Summon, again one of them being KotR/HP Absorb and the other being Hades/Quadra Magic, and Mime. Have Revive/Final Attack I guess, but try to avoid being KOed anyway cause it'll mess up the Mime. Summon Hades and THEN KotR. It's always gonna counter summons like KotR with Ultima, but within four moves Hades could successfully Poison/Stop the tentacles and Stop Ruby Weapon itself so that won't happen.
Keep Miming this, and he'll be defeated. However, between each turn, you might want to wait a few seconds for him to become un-Stopped before summoning again, because it would always happen to me that I would do it, and then Mime again while he's still paralyzed, and he got un-Stopped after Hades finished but before KotR struck, and killed me with Ultima.

Also, since you won't have any Aire Tam to worry about materia limit, you could add a leveled Magic Plus so it'll end the battle sooner. And an HP Plus as well if you want to try to survive Ultima. If you have a Mystile as your armor you have a good chance of enduring Ultima as well. But as I said before if you keep waiting for him to be unparalyzed between each turn, you won't need to worry about Ultima at all guaranteed, it'll just prolong the battle by a few seconds.

I'm gonna assume you have Mime and KotR and Quadra Magic... get those with a Gold Chocobo if you don't.

Yeahh I do.
Imma try your tactic latteeerr.
Thank you. :)

What about without KOTR?

It's probably easier to raise a gold chocobo for KoTR than do the WEAPONS without it.

It's probably easier to raise a gold chocobo for KoTR than do the WEAPONS without it.

I'm pretty sure Ruby can be and is meant to be done without it, considering the reward for defeating it IS a gold chocobo, which would be pointless and stupid if you were supposed to already have one to begin with.

Emerald, on the other hand... I don't know yet how to go about that one without the gold stuff... if there even is a way.

Well, Ruby is definitely meant to be done without KoTR, seeing as it always counters it with Ultima.

I'm pretty sure Ruby can be and is meant to be done without it, considering the reward for defeating it IS a gold chocobo, which would be pointless and stupid if you were supposed to already have one to begin with.

Emerald, on the other hand... I don't know yet how to go about that one without the gold stuff... if there even is a way.

Just because the reward is a gold chocobo doesn't mean you aren't meant to train one and use the most powerful summon against it.


Well, Ruby is definitely meant to be done without KoTR, seeing as it always counters it with Ultima.

Ruby counters any spell with Ultima, so that was a moot point.

I like how every community to games has its own moonspeak. =>

Actually, wrong. One of my favorite strategies to use against Ruby is to use KoTR on it -- after summoning Hades against its ass. Of course, it does make the battle boring and way too easy, but it works. As I recall, you go in with two dead (because otherwise it won't bury its tentacles in the ground) and then you W-Summon Hades followed by Phoenix. Then it's Hades/Knights of the Round and Mime repeatedly or maybe just W-Summon Knights -- I forget how long the Stop effect works. And you're good to go.


As for Emerald -- generally one goes with Final Attack/Phoenix and the usual so-on, so-on --- I think alternate strategies involve having little to no materia equipped, since the Aire Tam Storm is based on materia. Of course, there's also the ol' "All Lucky 7" trick...




I see Zak already mentioned Hades in association with Ruby. Well, however you do it, yeah, Hades is a go way to go with that WEAPON.

I see Zak already mentioned Hades in association with Ruby. Well, however you do it, yeah, Hades is a go way to go with that WEAPON.
That or Dazers since it's unaffected by Stop.

Well now I have another problem.
And this problem makes me swear.
..
$#$#@^%$*&^.
The bloody W-Summon is killing me to get because the freaking Gold Saucer battles are so effing annoying!
..
Any strategies for that?

Don't suck...

Emerald:

Cloud - Mime + OmniSlash
X - Phoenix + Final Attack
X - Standby until needed


Ruby:
Start the battle, and have Cloud do NOTHING!
Have the other two people attack until they get WhirlSand'd away!

Cloud - W-Summon + KotR + Mime, Phoenix + Final Attack

Emerald:

Cloud - Mime + OmniSlash
X - Phoenix + Final Attack
X - Standby until needed


Ruby:
Start the battle, and have Cloud do NOTHING!
Have the other two people attack until they get WhirlSand'd away!

Cloud - W-Summon + KotR + Mime, Phoenix + Final Attack

Your Emerald strategy sucks, ftr.

clu -- all I can say is learn to work the reels to your advantage and take advantage of customizing materia and accessories to your benefit wherever possible.

The method I used to defeat these bosses was really simple.

Have Cloud with Final Attack linked with Phoenix summon materia. This will give you multiple lives (One for each star).

Secondly have Cloud cast Knights of the Round Materia and have another party member then cast Mime. This will ensure that you cast Knights of the round multiple times.

Trust me this works. As someone mentioned earlier, W-Summon Knights of the round ;)

The method I used to defeat these bosses was really simple.

Have Cloud with Final Attack linked with Phoenix summon materia. This will give you multiple lives (One for each star).

Secondly have Cloud cast Knights of the Round Materia and have another party member then cast Mime. This will ensure that you cast Knights of the round multiple times.

Trust me this works. As someone mentioned earlier, W-Summon Knights of the round ;)

If anyone expects to do that they better have Knights of the Round leveled because after Phoenix saves him it would mess up the mime sequence and they wouldn't be able to summon KotR after that.

Well I had Master red and Master green materia (x2) and mastered Phoenix and KoTR.

It's what happens when you clock 99:59:59.

I did this one night with Setzer (who also posts here). We wanted so badly to literally clock this game. And we did. AND THERE WAS MUCH REJOICING.

Yeah, and you don't even really have to clock the game to get those goodies because building up Materia is easy with Cloud --> Apocalpyse, Cid --> Scimitar and Yuffie --> Rising Sun and fight Magic Pots / Movers repeatedly.

Your Emerald strategy sucks, ftr.

Oh?

Well so far its the easiest and fastest strategy I've come up with!
Everyone I know who's used it has beaten Emerald 1st try and without stressing, pulling hair out, or even dying once!

So I say to you sir,

EAD! (eat a dick)

Cute, but I'm calling bullshit until you offer proof.

My memory is a little shady since i havnt played this game in a while, but the easiest way I ever found to beat Emerald was to equip Barret with his best weapon (forgot its name, Missing Score?) and also equip him with an Armor that has a decent amount of slots. For his materia equip him with 1 Master Level Cover and 1 Master Level HP Plus and fill the rest of his slots with Master Level Counter Attack materia. Every time he takes damage he counter attacks once for every Counter Attack materia you gave him and deals 9999 damage each time. As for the rest of your party, you could give someone the Final Attack + Phoenix materia combo, other than that just use them to keep Barret alive and beating Emerald should be easy.

As for Ruby, I cant really help you there, I only beat him a couple times and dont really remember how.

My memory is a little shady since i havnt played this game in a while, but the easiest way I ever found to beat Emerald was to equip Barret with his best weapon (forgot its name, Missing Score?) and also equip him with an Armor that has a decent amount of slots. For his materia equip him with 1 Master Level Cover and 1 Master Level HP Plus and fill the rest of his slots with Master Level Counter Attack materia. Every time he takes damage he counter attacks once for every Counter Attack materia you gave him and deals 9999 damage each time. As for the rest of your party, you could give someone the Final Attack + Phoenix materia combo, other than that just use them to keep Barret alive and beating Emerald should be easy.

As for Ruby, I cant really help you there, I only beat him a couple times and dont really remember how.

Um... you sure you aren't getting the two mixed up? The strategy you give seems to be more compatible with Ruby than Emerald.

He did say his memory was a little shady!

Um... you sure you aren't getting the two mixed up? The strategy you give seems to be more compatible with Ruby than Emerald.

My strategy is for the Underwater Weapon. I remember trying it on the Desert Weapon and failing badly.


It also occurs to me that if Clu doesnt yet have W Summon Materia, he probably doesnt have Final Attack Materia either. So Clu, the first thing you should do is go win the 2 top Battle Arena Prizes (Omni Slash and W Summon), then do it again, the lady will ask if you want to do a Special Battle, win this battle to get Final Attack materia (I think you also need Knights of the Round to get the special battle), then after youve done that you can go face the Weapons.

Okay well first of all, I'm a chic.
I would hope that my icon would give that away.
And second of all, any strategy is worth a shot.
So thanks, I'll try it.

Okay well first of all, I'm a chic.
I would hope that my icon would give that away.

Wait... That's you in your avatar?

Yeahh why?

Swami, his Emerald atrategy works just fine. You never tried it, who are you to call the strategy bullshit?

Now quoting Neg:
WHY YOU JUST CRITICIZING OUR TEXT, MANG?!?!?

ALWAYS NAY-SAYING!! YOU CREATE SOMETHING!!!

Holy hell, no it doesn't. Until someone offers me proof that it does, it won't work.

Yes it works. If you can't make it work for yourself, that's an other story.

Show me a video where it works.

Hi Clu, great to see someone else from Melbourne :)

lol nevermind, I stand corrected.

Just looked on youtube and that strategy is too damned time consuming. Duplicating Mimes and Counter-Commands that many times. Fuck that.

KOTR strategy is much easier >.>

Edit: To clarify, my initial problem with the strategy was they just said Omnislash then Mime. with a final attack+Phoenix for safe keeping. So immediately I thought, you can't Onmislash then wait every turn to Mime, hence a shitty strat.

Actually, the easiest way to beat Emerald is to get into the battle with Cloud alone and...


Counter + Mine
Master Final Attack + Master Revive
Hp Plus(es)

And bring a lot of Elixirs or X Potions.


Optional: Hero Drinks and the Ultima Weapon.


Start the battle by giving Cloud an Hero Drink and then unleash Omnislash. Then use Mime every turn until you take too much damage. You then use an Elixir or X Potion. Counter + Mime will make sure you'll stay in shape until your limit gauge refills (what more, Mime makes it so the potions you mimic will not be taken out of your inventory!), then you start again with Omnislash.

You'll take him down in less than 4 minutes.


Only drawback from this technique is that only Cloud will benefit from the XP. But you can still equip some Materias in spare slots to give them an AP boost.

Hynad, wanna see some crazy FF challenge videos? Look up GarlandtheGreat. He's got loads of crazy videos. I'm about to watch him beat Ruby with level 7 Tifa. o.O No KOTR

Hi Clu, great to see someone else from Melbourne :)

Haha.
Melbourne is awesomesauce.
:D :D

Duplicating Counter and Mime materia takes about 1hr per set if you use:

Apocalpyse - 3x materia growth
Fight Magic Pots - 1500AP each

So in 3 hours (which is nothing if you're dedicated) you can have 4 sets of Mime + Counter (3 mastered, 1 normal) which means you use Omnislash on Emerald ONCE, and from then on no matter what he does, you counter with Omnislash at least 3 times! You then have your turn which, if you use Mime, you will use Omnislash equal to the amount of times you countered after Emerald's attack!

And on the odd occaision he survives long enough to damage you seriously, use a Megalixir, and then every time he attacks, you heal! Then just wait for the limit gauge to max out, and repeat Omnislash Counter!

This strategy is almost flawless!
You can butt-rape just about ANY enemy before they have any serious chances to kill you or even damage you severely!
The only exclusion is Ruby Weapon coz of his abnormally high DEF.

That's basically the same strategy I mentioned.

Ohhhh!
I like that.
And I have more than three hours!
:D :D

on emerald i used a counter attack way
masterd about 6 counter attacks
maxed out clouds hp best weapon
now everytime it attacks cloud counters 6 times
or how ever much counters you have
and the hit points were 9999 each counter
delt with the emerald weapon quick

Any information, ANYTHING that ANYONE can give me at all would be really very appreciated.



hit him wif yr sord :smrt:


I'd help you man, but I can't remember how I killed them.
;_;

Duplicating Counter and Mime materia takes about 1hr per set if you use:

Apocalpyse - 3x materia growth
Fight Magic Pots - 1500AP each

So in 3 hours (which is nothing if you're dedicated) you can have 4 sets of Mime + Counter (3 mastered, 1 normal) which means you use Omnislash on Emerald ONCE, and from then on no matter what he does, you counter with Omnislash at least 3 times! You then have your turn which, if you use Mime, you will use Omnislash equal to the amount of times you countered after Emerald's attack!

And on the odd occaision he survives long enough to damage you seriously, use a Megalixir, and then every time he attacks, you heal! Then just wait for the limit gauge to max out, and repeat Omnislash Counter!

This strategy is almost flawless!
You can butt-rape just about ANY enemy before they have any serious chances to kill you or even damage you severely!
The only exclusion is Ruby Weapon coz of his abnormally high DEF.


You can just use the same strategy for Ruby Weapon. If you have a character equipped with Counter-Mime cast Megalixir, that character will continue to use it everytime he's attacked and it won't deplete your stock. You can't Mime a Mime, so if this character goes after Cloud, you can just leave the game running to sort itself out.

Duplicating Counter and Mime materia takes about 1hr per set if you use:

Apocalpyse - 3x materia growth
Fight Magic Pots - 1500AP each

So in 3 hours (which is nothing if you're dedicated) you can have 4 sets of Mime + Counter (3 mastered, 1 normal) which means you use Omnislash on Emerald ONCE, and from then on no matter what he does, you counter with Omnislash at least 3 times! You then have your turn which, if you use Mime, you will use Omnislash equal to the amount of times you countered after Emerald's attack!

And on the odd occaision he survives long enough to damage you seriously, use a Megalixir, and then every time he attacks, you heal! Then just wait for the limit gauge to max out, and repeat Omnislash Counter!

This strategy is almost flawless!
You can butt-rape just about ANY enemy before they have any serious chances to kill you or even damage you severely!
The only exclusion is Ruby Weapon coz of his abnormally high DEF.

You can just use the same strategy for Ruby Weapon. If you have a character equipped with Counter-Mime cast Megalixir, that character will continue to use it everytime he's attacked and it won't deplete your stock. You can't Mime a Mime, so if this character goes after Cloud, you can just leave the game running to sort itself out.

Omnislash on Ruby Weapon does about 200-400hp per hit, as opposed to 9999hp per hit with Emerald. MUCH faster to replace 'Mime' with 'KoTR'.

I know mastering 3 KoTR is insane, but

a) you need to if u want 1 Master Summon per party member
b) you only need two to kick Ruby's arse anyway

Just make sure you have Final Attack + Phoenix, because Ruby counters KoTR with Ultima.

Or you could take advantage of Ruby's weakness to Stop and immobilize him, thus making the battle, oh, 5x easier.

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Essentially the same idea as Summon Hades, only Stop can't be used in conjunction with W-Summon.

The fuck are you pointing at, Agent?

When somebody puts an up arrow in their post, it usually means they're referring to the post immediately before theirs. Though I'll admit it loses a lot of its effect when your post ends up starting a new page in the thread. Which I didn't realize at the time because I was using Quick Reply, and when you use Quick Reply, it always shows your post as being on the same page, even if it actually started a new one.

Forum default 25 posts per page, sir.

I thought you'd know this Mr. Member-Since-2002.

Forum default 25 posts per page, sir.

I thought you'd know this Mr. Member-Since-2002.

Yeah, but who priorly counts/pays attention to post numbers anyway enough to check before doing that?

There's a number stating which post it is in the upper right corner of every post.

noskillbassist says, appropos of nothing, because, again, as Zak said, sure it's there, but who actually pays attention to it?

And thus, thread derailed. :p

The thread's already toast anyway -- how many different tips can people come up with on how to defeat Emerald and Ruby Weapon? Closed!