Fuck it.

Last one disturbs me.

Your name disturbs me..noskillbassist

Your name makes me hungry.

Also, doomjockey. Nice work. I especially like the mage one. :)

i like the second one

~ ~

I think the first one is the best, very well done.

Last one disturbs me.

You should be.


Also, doomjockey. Nice work. I especially like the mage one. :)

Boobs rule.


i like the second one

~ ~

Considering it took the least time, this is a good compliment.


I think the first one is the best, very well done.


Boobs rule.

Especially Jesus.

I think the second and first one are really nice :) Keep it up!

Those are nice, but I see an inconsistence of styles. In a pic, you nail the anatomy just right, yet in an other, there is anatomy disproportions and other similar problems. The third pic is the perfect example of that. The first and third pics are good example of what I mean. Both have static poses that show more problems than the more complex second and fourth, where it would be expected to show such compositional problems.

In other words, the second and the fourth seems to have been made by an other person entirely.

But they are still good work nonetheless.

Those are nice, but I see an inconsistence of styles. In a pic, you nail the anatomy just right, yet in an other, there is anatomy disproportions and other similar problems. The third pic is the perfect example of that. The first and third pics are good example of what I mean. Both have static poses that show more problems than the more complex second and fourth, where it would be expected to show such compositional problems.

In other words, the second and the fourth seems to have been made by an other person entirely.

But they are still good work nonetheless.


I suppose that should only tell you that I do indeed fuck up. I'll admit that since drawing isn't among my better talents I do suck at times. Don't make me post my shitty pics to prove it. That would hurt everyone.

But I appreciate those who appreciate my fledgling art regardless of mistakes.

I'd hit it
All of it
<_<
>_>

More. Hopefully getting better?

yes ye are

1,2,3:"Huh, not bad wish I could draw"

4:*Twitch*

Yeah i wish i could draw too.

they are all pretty good.

If I could draw I would draw people with afros...

Pull up a chair cos it's that time again. Thanks for the cool comments on my amateurish attempts. If anyone has em, I could use some tips/reference on colouring. I suck at that.

1. Hearts in armour.


2. Ryu of Breath of Fire III w/slight redesigns.


3. The Seele special version.


See you next Christmas with chewy goodness.

nice!

Damn straight! AN AFRO!

The mage reminds me a lot of Jess from Lunar. I also like the second one, too regardless of the disproportions. I'm bad at drawing, so I'm not too picky.

Hearts in armour.


amazing work.. really do like it

1. Hearts in armour.





This is absolutely awesome.

Thanks for the continued kind words. I'm really glad to get good feedback on "Hearts in Armour" especially. Thinking of adopting that style permanently.

Well, here's three more. Hope you like:

1. The Zero. [original]


2. Another sort of alternative take on known characters. This time Alucard and Integra of the anime called Hellsing.


3. Ayame of the Tenchu video game series.

You're v. talented!
I like your stuff

Lots of breasts tho~_~

" The Zero " has to be my favorite out of the three. But all of them are drawn really well though. I can see that from the beginning of this thread until now you made huge improvement in your drawing. Keep it up~

Yeah that Zero one...that could be a design on a t-shirt I would wear.

Good work~

GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everything is so GAY

don�t fuck it Faggioboy

no I don�t mean that

you are oke doomjockey

nut the other members are so FAGGOT

Thanks for the positive commentary. That said, I'm pretty damned surprised to see "The Zero" as the current favourite, it being the original out of the bunch. Most of all, I'm glad to hear those magic words that say I might be improving. I'm trying to colour at least one of the next pieces, one of which will be a Persona 3 pic.

OT: Nice ava and sig, Solaris. That's Bale, right? he looks way cooler than usual for some reason.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner. Awesome artwork man. Are you scanning these or using a PC drawing tablet?

Awesome drawings.

Much appreciated.


Sorry I didn't see this sooner. Awesome artwork man. Are you scanning these or using a PC drawing tablet?

Both for a lot of them. I tend to sketch out a hard copy then try to ink/colour them digitally. Sketching on the pad is out until I can afford a bigger one.

These are all excellent I am quite jealous!
However there is something unnerving about Thanos with a tea cup but I cannot quite put my finger on what!

Hehe, save jealousy for the real artists. I'm just the guy with a Wacom and spare time. But I'm pleased someone else understood the Thanos pic! =]

Spoiler tags take up less space.



A redone pic of something I originally drew for a friend.
Kim and Elly from the game Xenogears (PSX).


Fun with cell shading. Vanessa of the King of Fighters series of games.


Fun with paints. Sol Badguy of the game Guilty Gear.


Lastly,
...what's this? No Persona 3 pic? Short story: I fucked it up with a noobish colour job. Live and learn.

Currently trying to implement more dynamic, more 3D poses for the next batch. Anyway thanks again for viewing, anyone.

Vanessa has nice knockers.

MOAR BEWBIES!

Fun with paints. Sol Badguy of the game Guilty Gear.



I really like this one but i think they're all great, good stuff.

Your very good, highly talented for that matter. Great artwork, keep it up

The linework is very sexy.

do you do hentai too, i love them so much since you are good at drawing breast. lol

Looks like tits win. Still, maybe I need more guys to balance it out...

As far as hentai goes, I don't usually bother when you can just google excellent hentai artists like Tony Taka. Also, I'm not sure photobucket plays nice with nudes.

Anyways...

I hate to respond without posting at least a sketch. Apologizing ahead of time since most of these are totally in concept.

Heather, Silent Hill 3, one of my favourite subjects.


Heather again.


An original I'm making for a friend. Lady of Hearts.

You're the man doom! really, I'd rather not repeat what everyone has said about your work, but its really good stuff.

Post more pics plz.

Hey, I'm glad. It's my greatest pleasure to make something that other people can enjoy. But to be truthful each time I get a compliment I go a bit red an mumble "aw shucks" at the monitor. Lifelong habit.

Anyway, bonus pic:

Abandoned pic of Id from Xenogears. Never could get this to a point where I liked it.

I know there are many professional hentai artists, but there always unlimited space for newcomers, and you can be one of them. So when exactly are you gonna do some hentai samples ?

Rofl. This is me meeting you halfway, RoadKill.


As hentai as I get: Judy Nails of Guitar Hero.


Original. Just a sketch of some guy. Let's call him Dan.


Samus of Metroid (one of my favourite characters ever)


Hope they were enjoyable!

Yay, Heather ^_^

Aww tits plz ;). Good stuff man!

These are really impressive. Great work.

These are very well done.


Id from Xenogears. Never could get this to a point where I liked it.


Yay! Xenogears~

Again, thanks for the thanks. =]

Feel free, anyone, to put words in those speech balloons. That's what they're there for.

I think I'm gonna call it quits for a while though.

And after a long while...

Did something for Persona 4.

That's the protagonist and Chie.

That looks absolutely amazing!


I'm jealous of your skills, honest~

Aw. You sure know how to make a guy with a girl avatar blush.

Hahahaha :3 I try, I try.

Excellent - These just get better and better

Really awesome stuff!

Thank you, thank you. Insomnia is the key.

Doomjockey, if you were a woman, I'd do you.

=/... so all some random whore has to do is draw you a random anime picture and hand it to you and you'd screw?

Lol. I guess someone is gay, I also think that's the new way to pick up a chick, Oh bby I'mma draw you a pic and now that's done, screw me bby. xDD -Teasing of course, dont take it the wrong way.- xD -Is gonna guess that doom guy is a male.-

They look pretty nice.

The anatomy problem is usually what's picked on first, but there's not much more science to improving on that than with hammering down a nail with a hammer.
There are a couple of mind tricks you can play on yourself though, to make your learning more effective. Most drawing books will tell you to break down individual body parts into the most basic shape possible and go from there. That works for most people but not always. The principle is to turn the process into something your brain will understand the best, thus making the whole thing clearer. The breaking down thing didn't work so well for me actually, but i did find a method i could relate to after a while.


Also, and this is what usually makes us look at a complicated drawing and go "wow", there seems to be some trouble with how you manage the information in each piece.
Look at your very second drawing on the thread for example, it just a sketch but works pretty well, and this is not just because we humans are all naturally lenient and become impressed with a sketch just because it's just a sketch. It's simplicity itself is it's strength, since all the stuff you put in there is clearly managed: you outline the shapes, vary the thickness a good bit, making it look nice, and there you go.
It's also what makes Hearts in Armor work so well, i'd say. You put some good strong lines, some light shading that's pretty well defined and there you go. I'm pretty sure you'd get something a lot less effective if you had thinned the lines and darkened/smoothed the shading for example (then again, if you're sure you want to do something a certain way, that's that).
The Zero Works well for slightly different reasons, but the gist of it is pretty much the same.

The real bitch of the matter arises when the drawing starts to get more complicated, and you have to start handling gradients, textures, flat shading, smooth shading, line thickness (or lack thereof) for it all (to name a few), and how to distribute it. The real high level guys have that ability to show us their work and give us the feeling that there's a method to the madness, even if sometimes we're not fully aware of it.

Take your Persona 4 sketch.
It works great but you lose something when you color it. It could have something to do with all those really strong colors fighting for dominance, along with a lack of lines to play the referee. I'd say it's a pretty good bet that if you tone them down a lil bit, maybe bring those lines up somewhat for good measure, you might get something nicer.

Also, a very nice person at conceptart gave me this link

http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm

It's quick and dirty and very helpful. Maybe it'll help you too.

Oh shi- Doom thats some good.... no.. Awesome work, man!

They look pretty nice.

The anatomy problem is usually what's picked on first, but there's not much more science to improving on that than with hammering down a nail with a hammer.
There are a couple of mind tricks you can play on yourself though, to make your learning more effective. Most drawing books will tell you to break down individual body parts into the most basic shape possible and go from there. That works for most people but not always. The principle is to turn the process into something your brain will understand the best, thus making the whole thing clearer. The breaking down thing didn't work so well for me actually, but i did find a method i could relate to after a while.

[etc...etc...etc... blah blah blah]





Oh yeah! An art elitist... PM me, mang!

haven't heard that one before

Thank you, thank you. Insomnia is the key.



DJ you are my other choice for artist of the year, along with Dan The Man...

Man, I already said I blush lots. It's not manly of me, bros... Dan is the Man though, I must agree

Kblargh, without quoting at length, thanks for the link and helpful criticism. I admittedly have HUGE problems with colour, so any new tutorials/other help is greatly appreciated. I practice a hell of a lot, and it's kind of disappointing to progress as slowly as I do.

Beer helps

Well, sometimes it's just a matter of acquiring the little key bits of knowledge that tie the whole thing together, then you start to see things differently.

I can't draw anything like the guys up at massiveblack for instance, but even i can start to understand that they don't just hammer the canvas mad dog style, nor are they doing rocket science. You start off simple then follow the little rules (well, more like guidelines), and then build up on what you think needs building up. If you keep it simple within your head, it should all run a lot smoother.

(not that i can read anyone's mind or anything)

The results of some study:



Figured if I was gonna practise, why waste good line art. I dunno how good or bad it is, but I'm pretty comfortable with it.

Beer helped

Your lining is good as far as the flow, cleanliness, of it goes. But thicker lines are usually used for parts that are closer to the "camera" or other parts that should stand out of the rest. Not to highlight random parts. Other than that, you may see a lot of it in many artist' works as general "contours" that help the characters stand out of a piece when the background might look too crowded otherwise.

Basically, it should help to create a perspective in your illustration, and shouldn't be used for the only sake that it looks a bit cooler when you put random thick lining here and there.

Look at some of Pete Woods stuff and you might understand what I mean

The idea of stroking thicker in parts closer to the camera is done by comparison with the other parts of the drawing. In this case there's nothing significantly closer.
I don't think the lines are randomly thick at all, specially if you look at the earlier version of this drawing.
He put emphasis on the outer lines, specially the big long strokes that hardly bend, which helped solidify the overall form. The rest got thinner strokes and balanced it out. The rule gets broken a little with the thinning out of the lines by the shoulders, but i'd say it works, so it's a rule well broken.
Color and lighting was vastly improved too. The light sourcing might be a little off by the legs, but i wouldn't think it's any big a deal. It looks awesome overall.

If there's any gripe to be had, i'd say that right arm could use a little sculpting, like thinning out the areas between the muscles (arm looks too flat) and maybe doing something about that right hand (looks too small). Also, Vanessa's hairline looks too far up. It could come, like, a good third of the way down and still give her plenty of cranium (and while i'm on a nitpicking trip, maybe if you were to thin out the lines at the bottom of her eyes and strengthen the top a bit, i think she'd look pretty good).

Anyway, that's my two cents.

EDIT: Thinking a bit on it, there's the chance bringing her hairline down will make her hair look too thick. I was just looking at it and suddenly got that feeling.
Sometimes fixing a detail will reveal another little flaw and start some kinda cascade. It can get tiring at times, and could take some patience to work through it all. Then again, i could be wrong about that.

I really like your works, expecially the face close-ups. You got those proportions down really well.
In the last full-body picture, the only 'off' thing I noticed was the left arm that was a bit short.
Just keep experimenting, it's already looking really good. =)

Damn... i wish i could draw.... but i can photoshop like a mofo

most recent flyer:

<a href="http://www.myspace.com/indepth36" target="_blank">

[...a big ol' picture...]

Rofl. That's a big help.

Good criticisms are good criticisms. I didn't expect to hear so much on the line work, but it's all good. I think I was just in a huge hurry to change up a few details and start practising.

Anyway, thanks for the advices. Especially the didactic image. I appreciate that you took time to do that, Hynad.



discodan, I can't photoshop to save my life or yours. *respect*

Here goes me with a quicky original:

Temperance

All of your is super impressive, and further inspires me to work harder at mine.

The speed in which you've gained such talent is mind-boggling! D:

Wow some great stuff there. You really have talent.

Thanks lots. Keep practising for we are the few, the proud, the audacious :smrt:

Here's hoping for a good year.

To start, I started this Persona 4 pic as soon as I got back from the holiday:



This is the second version. I wanted to try some cell shading again as well as some awkward photoshoppery to achieve the text effects so hopefully it doesn't look too terrible. The rounded rectangle shape got a lot of use. I also tried texturing, which didn't go too catastrophically, to my untrained eye. Lastly, if anyone wonders, the Japanese on the side is just her name.

Another smashing picture there doomjockey.
You keep getting better and better!

Thank you, thank you =)

I'm just happy I managed to add something approaching a background, haha

*looks around; goes off topic*

So did you ever finish Batman RIP?

Request for KOF art! Please!?
haha jk. Man, I said it before already but your good, dude.

So did you ever finish Batman RIP?

Disappointingly yes I did as well as all of the tie-in issues, I did not enjoy them at all. However I did quite enjoy the Last-Rites/Final Crisis part at the end. How about you?

I just got the LR/FC end to it (haven't yet read it though),but I didn't care for the whole RIP thing either. I thought it kind of entertaining on a basic level, but at the end I felt like the mystery wasn't worth the trouble at all. not to mention the anything-but-final "death" of Batman.

On another note, I've kept diligently to Trinity although I have no earthly idea where this is going anymore. Well, maybe I do, but I feel like it's been too drawn out.


Request for KOF art! Please!?
haha jk. Man, I said it before already but your good, dude.

I've been wanting to do a few KOFs for the longest besides that one Vanessa pic. Yeah, I'll give it a try...

Awesome!

On another note, I've kept diligently to Trinity although I have no earthly idea where this is going anymore. Well, maybe I do, but I feel like it's been too drawn out.

I agree it is getting a bit hard to follow but I think that is half the fun, I suspect it will read better in its entirety. Also just because BOFC is no longer do not think you have escaped me going on about Supergirl Cosmic Adventures in the Eighth Grade. It is great.

Harhar. I'd somehow forgotten that comic's very existence..

In other news, BOFC is back in all its glory complete with free text, links, and a helicopter* for every returnee






*offer subject to change

What do n00bs get instead of a helicopter?

Where's my free shit, DJ?!? Cam?

You have all our love and understanding* ;)

There was cake here too, but it's gone now





*while supplies last

Double post cos it's like that, homey.


Attempting Athena of King of Fighters.

You should remove her navel. It's way too low. And there's something off with her mouth. Her lower lip is my indication of where you should look at.

There's also the outline of her right arm that isn't complete. Her biceps should be fully outlined since it's in front of the rest of her torso. I could point at other minor things, but those are nitpicks and I'm sure those little details will get better as you continue to practice and study.

Also lol lifeless eyes.

I didn't mention anything about the eyes, because I think they'll be fixed just by adding colors.

I love it, I'll be awaiting the finish product! <3

Alrighty, well thanks for the tips. It's back to the drawing board. And I'll try to add some colour as well.

DJ, you really should consider doing promotional artwork for Xenosaga Episode IV...

If only :swoon:

It's going to happen Neg, it MUST.

We can certainly dream...

Neg, maybe now is the time for a Team Monolith reunion?

Yes.

I thought the composer(s) for Episodes II & III were pretty good, but Mitsuda pretty much made the game imo.

I don't know the names of people who worked on games or the names of songs in games, unless they have words or are on the soundtrack for VI.

Neg you should really check out Episode V's soundtrack (Xenogears). Compare that and Episode I's soundtrack to the others...

Gears isn't Ep. V in the Saga continuity. The Perfect Works guide outlines the plot for all 6 original episodes, iirc.

Too bad it's in Japanese :o

*puts on Emmy face*

Let's do it

I remember that the Episodes in Perfect Works and the Xenosaga Episodes don't sync up at all.

I'm game~

I could have sworn that Xenogears was episode V, and Episode IV covered the Eldridge.

Nope. There were supposed to be like 6 or 7 Xenosaga eps too. Then the writers left or sth. And the makers kept trying to make people happy. Like they worked on the battle system for Ep. II after complaints about it being too much about story in Ep. I, and then people complained about the battle system so they pulled it out for Ep. III.

Ep. III's battle system is so BLECH to me because my party only does Small Break damage and it takes FOREVER to finish battles -_-

Really wish I could read Perfect Works ;_;;

If team Monolith ever gets back together, they should merge Xenosaga with Xenogears, but make it more like Xenogears (in style and music).

Mwaha. PW was like my first translation project when I started learning to read Japanese and I still have notes :smrt:


If team Monolith ever gets back together, they should merge Xenosaga with Xenogears, but make it more like Xenogears (in style and music).

That is my dream of dreams. The two can fit so perfectly, intimately together it reminds me of something naughty :naughty:

And I will take a Mitsuda OST over most others any day

I didn't mention anything about the eyes, because I think they'll be fixed just by adding colors.

Stop looking at so much anime, weeaboo.

Mwaha. PW was like my first translation project when I started learning to read Japanese and I still have notes :smrt:



That is my dream of dreams. The two can fit so perfectly, intimately together it reminds me of something naughty :naughty:

And I will take a Mitsuda OST over most others any day

I mean more specifically like a XS/XG retelling for the PSP (though I don't own one) or simply an anthology of I-VI done in the style of Xenogears; you know with the fun cartoonish characters, anime cut-scenes, and loads of blasphemy (XS I-III got that part correct though.)

Xenosaga seems to me what it must be like to be a person of religious faith.

It's like WAIT, that doesn't make sense.....but I love it anyway....fuck the illogical bits, I believe it in spite of itself.

Cuz the Shion/KOS-MOS/T-elos stuff is like WHAT YOU SMOKIN' MONOLITH SOFT!?!

I never totally understood the whole Mary bit of Xenosaga, that could be attributed to having beaten I yet or playing II - III. I have watched said scenes on Youtube though. After seeing the end of part III, it makes me think that the whole religion aspect only played a sub-plot to the series. I still don't understand why the original group broke up after XS I.

Upon reflection, Ep. II is probably my favorite because I love the battle system that so many people hate (even though I do use Shion and MOMO, so I have to deal with a lot of unpredictability in breaking because they only have circle/A zone strikes) and because MOMO/Sakura/Rubedo is my favorite thing about the whole series.

Yeah, Allen/Shion/Kevin is close, but somewhat rote in execution.

Do you get play as Kevin/RT (maybe in flashback) during Ep. II?

Nope. You fight him in Ep. III, though.

You get to play Miyuki and Allen in Ep. III, too <3333

Nope. You fight him in Ep. III, though.

You get to play Miyuki and Allen in Ep. III, too <3333

I remember there was a reason I squeed with excitement when reading a/b III in the wiki. I still need to buy it though... Have you played I & II for DS? Good/Bad? Same/Better?

Not released for US. I could play it, cuz DS is region-free but I'm pretty sure it isn't in English.

Same with Mother 3, however the complete fan translation has finally been released!

It has a scene of KOS-MOS missing an arm and a leg.

That's always nice to see.

I really quite dislike her

*GASP!* B-but she's KOS-MOS...she-she's


Deus...maybe

lolwut?

Nerd grrrls over cybernetic fanservice, anyday of the week.

Though, she was made less nerdy over the course of the games. She gets bitchy in Ep. III. It's kinda like when Josie becomes Bitchy McBitch in Josie and the Pussycats.

DELICIOUS.

Shion, bitchy? She was so sweet in Episode I, or is naive the word i'm looking for. They should make a Shion x Kevin gaiden, now that would be fan service :love:

She becomes more and more confident as the series goes on.

Stop looking at so much anime, weeaboo.
weeaboo. Giggle

Yeah, that took forever, I know.

Looks good I like it, no I love it. Nice color work, man

Thanks :o

Now let's discuss payment options

haha, ok. Let me check my bank account that is located in England.

haha, ok. Let me check my bank account that is located in England.

That is not a problem Asamiya, I will be happy to go get the money for Doomjockey for you. Just let me know which bank.

HAHA! Dammit.

That is not a problem Asamiya, I will be happy to go get the money for Doomjockey for you. Just let me know which bank.

And I'll be sure to give you a ride to Doomjockey's.

Do you drive, Jeff?

Haha I do when money's involved XD. But in all seriousness no. I'm working on that though.

You are aware that Allen is closer to DJ than any of us, right?

Let's roadtrip to Centralia instead, Jeff.

haha it's a plan!

Everybody gets a cut if we make this happen!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/anthonydpitts/2008/shermie2copy.gif

That is a really good Shermie, man.
Good show! :)

I am seriously requesting a revival of this thread due to the massive amount of similar interests I have to you guys.

And the fact that that Shermie pic is the single sexiest thing I've ever seen in my life.

Don't encourage the ego on this guy! :o

/strokes DJ's ego, Heather's hair

*pant* :p

For serious, I don't post drawings here anymore since I got a DA for that, Yagyu...

But we welcome any Emeralda/Heather/Chie/Vanessa/Athena/Shermie/etc love.

Well, I'm a big fan of the Xeno series (more so Gears, never got to play much of the Saga, save 1. :( ).

BUT EMERALDA, GOOOOOD YES.

Same the Persona/MegaTen in gerenal. I loooove everything about it, but I've only played a good bit of the beginning of Shin Megami Tensei 2 for the SNES. But Chie? God yes, once more~

I love the fuck out of King of Fighters and all fighting games in general, so I'll rave quite a bit about a lot of them. Vanessa, God. Yes. :3c

But ah, yeah. deviantART link for me plz? :3cccc

I predict good things will happen here once again :swoon:

Conversely, I promise nothing awesome here: http://dishonest-nature.deviantart.com/

Those 2 are my favorites (especially the second one). Out of all of your work, I think they represent the culmination of your style and technique. You've improved quite a bit since the last time I ... hum... lectured you here. ^^, Keep it up. I can foresee you having a place in the industry of your choice down the road. As in: professional character designer.


My only criticism would go for the first pic here. The hand is way too sketchy compared to the rest. The second one is near perfect , some lines I would correct some parts of the lining here and there (respecting your style, of course) but that would again be nitpicks. As a whole, the pic is awesome.

I'll try to get better :o

ahhh hearts in armour is soooooo goood i like the lines you used on the face a lot.. and i also like the red one a lot. it is simple and good. me likes ^^

.

Brilliant

Am in agreement with discodan, and would add an "absolutely" prefix.