Guernsey
04-03-2008, 07:48 AM
How long does it take to practice drawing until you are considered to be good? I know takes a lot of time and patience but I have a hard time focusing on things (I like to entertain thoughts in my head) enough to just jot them down. I wish I had spent more time drawing, writing and other things but I tend to procrastinate and put things off only to regret it later. I wish I had done a lot things but I only want to focus on this, I want to try and draw but I do not have the patience for it. What could I do? How can I develop that patience, focus and skill? How long does it usually take?

J. Peterman
04-03-2008, 07:58 AM
here is time line

505645654 years

you though i sense a special talent so i say 2 days

Catch-22
04-24-2008, 08:26 PM
Umm
You just keep going
I don't think good is an ending
KMADPOFMA

Airily
05-06-2008, 10:24 AM
Depends on a lot of things.
And yeah, like Catch-22 said, good isn't an ending. Too many people with so many dif opinions.

I tried those steps with all the lines drawn to keep everything in proportion and...
It helps, I guess. But it takes too long and makes me notice too many errors...which is a good thing, but also not. Sorry if that made no sense. But try it out, it does help many people.

I tend to procrastinate too. Every time I go back to an unfinished drawing, especially portraits, it looks a bit off when the style changes...oops?

Guernsey
05-08-2008, 09:11 PM
Is it difficult to draw people, not just comics or manga but real people?

Marshall Lee
05-08-2008, 09:18 PM
DUDE, YOU WILL TOTALLY BE PICASSO!

Airily
05-09-2008, 02:22 PM
Is it difficult to draw people, not just comics or manga but real people?

There are many really fantastic detailed comic/manga drawings out there that would require as, or more, time and effect compared to drawing real people.

Proportion and symmetry are my personal weakness, probably the same for many others too. Grids would help if you're really picky or like that sort of thing.

Just thinking about faces, I think females are easier. Also, baby faces are harder than you'd think since their faces don't have many definite features. Unless you're very good at shading/cross-hatching..etc and can capture the smoothness of the skin.


-->But...not really?
It seems, dunno if true, but most beginners and (probably all) experts can draw portraits that look like who they're supposed to. But the in between produce a very nice picture but they don't look like who they're based on.

Hope that helps in any way.

Aji
05-13-2008, 07:41 PM
Hmm the same thing is with me. I'm a terrible artist to begin with so the majority of my things are random doodles and poorly drawn anime-like characters. My strengths are on facebook's "graffiti" application haha. Anyway I lose my patience when I'm trying to learn a piece on piano without anyone's help. You kind of lose hope when you don't have a teacher or mentor there with you telling you how and where you can improve. I guess the only thing you can do is have self-motivation. Why do you want to draw? What do you want to get accomplished? Although very cliche, I feel that if I really want to do something then it will get done. Physically talk to yourself and ask yourself why you want to draw. Maybe you want to draw because it's the only thing that calms you or it's something that you like doing as a hobby and you want to improve.

Haha sorry for my awkward sentences.

Oh, oh! And if you have a friend who can draw, ask for help! You might have done that, but just in case... and there are also art classes too. I'm not sure if you're willing to pay for them, though. You might be able to find a cheap art class thing around your neighborhood. I know in my neighborhood they do those type of classes.

Kentofski
05-14-2008, 01:35 AM
Its all about style, theres no such thing as good. Iv seen some shit get published in my lifetime as well. If your going to take yourself seriously though I reccommend two things:

1) Practise PROPORTIONS and ANATOMY and these are key to making things look 'right'. Get yourself a good anatomy book and look through magazines (even fashion ones ew) and draw as much as possible until you are happy with it.

2) Classes. You cant beat going to art classes, although it can be tedious process it really does help, and not just in the speed departement either, taking classes can open your mind up to all sorts artistic ideas, not just manga and anime (although admitedlly i started out on that).

But dont just take my word for it. Art is about how different people interpret a single piece of work. Go bother some artists for more advice.

UmbreChan
06-01-2008, 09:17 PM
I don't think there is any definition of how long you need to draw to be "good". Different people improve at different rates, and you can always get better.

remember.
BASIC ANATOMY IS YOUR BEST FRIEND.

Epsilon86
06-04-2008, 03:43 PM
I agree that good is not the ending. Drawing is never ending, it is always a process to me. I can't seem to finish my drawing either. I always went back to edit and improve my art after some time.

Practise and lot of drawing can help you to draw better. All this practise, will help you gain experience. I also have a hard time focusing and concentrate on my art. But sometime self disapline is required, I just have to force myself to draw.

Kanamo
06-08-2008, 07:43 AM
Mm.. I think "good" is really just your opinion, and I know many artists tend to always think their art is never "good." In all honesty, if you want to think your art is good, just build a higher self-esteem. But if you'd like to improve your art in composition, anatomy, etc., but don't have the patience for it then.. is to practice whenever. Even when you don't want to practice and you're ready to bite your arm off, do it anyways: You go as far as your will goes.

Practice realism above all else because copying anime/comic styles will just limit you to other people's styles and not allow you to develop your own style. Just draw the models you see in magazines, on TV, etc. It's difficult and a lot times, people want to quit. But artists become artists because they're determined to better themselves.

I hope you will develop patience for art-since no one can develop patience for you but yourself. :'D Good luck~!

vonameda
06-11-2008, 05:31 PM
It's a process of many years combined with suffering and pain
What will help?
Painkillers, alcohol and stuff?
Maybe, at least if it comes to the pain and the suffering

But improving yerself?
Only one thing, draw other people
Ask them if you may
Or at first try to copy photographs

And there will be no point of "Oh, I think I can consider myself good", there never will be, you can always be better

Secondtooth
06-12-2008, 12:59 AM
It all depends on how much natural talent you have...But, as a rule practice as much as you can..and everything.e.g., anatomy..etc

jewess crabcake
06-12-2008, 01:52 AM
I recommend this to everybody start from scratch work with stick figures get poses down, then polygons, then work your way back up to where you are. You'll get better then you can try to go even higher. As humans we all have our limits although they are pushable. SO basically like Secondtooth said it'll depend on how much natural talent you have and your determination.

hibikino
10-05-2008, 06:05 AM
You can't put a time limit on these things. Creative and learning ability varies from person to person... An artistic genius is nothing once they get older because time CAN level the battlefield.

If you are drawing just for attention or to just be good, give up already because you won't with that attitude. Be open to criticism. Be open to change. Be open to inspiration. Wanting not just to improve, but to enjoy what you're doing you will become a lot better. AND sooner.

That said, there's not much else I can say that hasn't already... it doesn't matter what style you want to do... even if it's anime or surrealism, a great place to start is realism, because the only tip there is draw what you see. Once you've improved your motor skills (things like line flow and weight) you can then explore other styles.

Good luck.

gironimo appleton
10-06-2008, 02:31 PM
I'm in the exact same boat, wait.. necropost.

hudson_hawk
10-07-2008, 09:59 AM
The practice never stops...like Dr's never stop practicing D8;;;...(feel safe now?)

People tell me i'm awesome *inflate*...but everytime i stare at my own art I ALWAYS nit pick everything. There is ALWAYS something to work on, something to try and perfect. The best thing to do it find your own style...then people can tell the difference between an error and style.

But yes keep practicing!