Did anybody else think this game's ending was absolutely kick-ass?

SPOILER:
The final event battle with the ShinRa troops was the icing on the cake, especially with "The Price of Freedom" playing in the background.

I found it to be more emotional than I expected, and I'm not usually one to care for video game characters. What do you think?

It`s retarded, but I cried when I was watching the ending movie.
It is kick-ass.
And it`s even more retarded to stop eating for several days because Zack is dead.

Sounds awesome and I can't wait to see how Zack's story unfolds in this "retelling." I need a PsP and CC ;_;

Fainaru, you got issues jftr.

And it`s even more retarded to stop eating for several days because Zack is dead.

You...stopped eating?

And, noskillbassist, you should definitely invest in a PSP (even if it's just for this game) - it is worth it.

And, noskillbassist, you should definitely invest in a PSP (even if it's just for this game) - it is worth it.

yeah, get a psp. Besides CC theres loads of great games on it.

Zack's death is officially the most emotional character death in any game, ever.

Fuck Aeris.

Also, it's exceedingly obvious that Cloud was and is a complete punce, and if Zack hadn't been killed (and it took an entire fucking ARMY to take him down) he would have stopped Meteor and saved the Planet just by cutting the fucking thing in half.

Zack > any Final Fantasy lead ever.

You took the words straight out of my mouth - I really don't think as highly of Cloud as I once did. The entire ending was way more than I was expecting, and I'm going through another playthrough right now just to watch it again. His death was inevitable, but I had no idea how much of an impact it would have on my opinions of certain characters in the FF7 universe. Though I loved the ending, I have to say the song 'Why' that played at the end kind of put me off...

Though I loved the ending, I have to say the song 'Why' that played at the end kind of put me off...

I liked the song "Why" it's just the photo album of scenes(memories) that followed put me in the mood of some fangirl's music video rather than the ending of an epic game.

I'd rather not think of the "what ifs" concerning Zack and how he would have changed the events of the original FF7 had he lived. Instead I liked to believe that Zack simply paved the way for Cloud's glory. This couldn't have happened any other way it was fate and the point is -- the world was still saved.

This couldn't have happened any other way it was fate and the point is -- the world was still saved.

If you consider Midgar being obliterated by Meteor "saved", then I suppose you are right.

On a slightly related note, I think that Genesis was (is?) a far better written and multi-facted villian than Sephiroth.

Why does Angeal(?) look like Zack?

Why does Angeal(?) look like Zack?

It's not that Angeal looks like Zack per se -- other than the fact that they wear the exact same 1st class uniform have shoulder length black hair and mako blue eyes. =p But once you get used to seeing the characters you will see the look very different.

Why does Angeal(?) look like Zack?

Angeal was Nomura's original design for Cloud. After it was scraped, Zack became the new design for Cloud. However, once again, Nomura didn't think it contrasted enough with Sephiroth, so he created the Cloud we know today. Nomura has used all of these character models in Crisis Core, and because they were created with a similar purpose in mind, many of them may seem similar.

EDIT: Nomura is a lazy bastard.

You could have said Nomura is a lazy bastard.

Ya the ending blew me away, hurt a lot more than when Aries died. That got to me as well though when I was younger. I enjoyed how cloud couldnt even pick up the buster sword, had to drag it. That doesn't mean I don't think less of cloud though, its just that his intention was never to be a hero, Zack was a much nicer guy all around.

First thing- Wow. I just beat it about ten minutes ago, and I am really really happy/surprised how the ending turned out. I'm not surprised at what happen really, but just how good it really is. The whole game I thought was great, but the ending really just truly made it full circle, and definitely covered a lot of things I was looking for it to cover.

Awesome game and a must have for a true Final Fantasy 7 fan.

Also, Zack's death did make me a bit upset, they portrayed it better than any other Final Fanatasy death to date.

I'll be playing it again, just to see the ending again as well.

On a slightly related note, I think that Genesis was (is?) a far better written and multi-facted villian than Sephiroth.

Genesis was interesting, though I have to admit I was skeptical at first. However, I enjoyed finding out his true intentions throughout the game and I look forward to seeing what role he plays in the future. However, watching the rise and fall of Sephiroth through Zack's eyes was interesting and I believe it makes Sephiroth a much more likeable character, if only a little.


That doesn't mean I don't think less of cloud though, its just that his intention was never to be a hero

Eh, if I remember correctly, wasn't Cloud always whining about how much he wanted to be in SOLDIER but never could?


Also, Zack's death did make me a bit upset, they portrayed it better than any other Final Fanatasy death to date.

Agreed, the scene of Zack's death was everything and more I could have wanted in an ending.

ok loved the game definetly cloud is still a favorite character of mine but the thing i dont get is if i remember correctly, yes he did want to be soldier and he had flashbacks about it with tifa in ff7, he never goes back to shinra after this kind of jumping into zacks role. the thing i dont get is he believes that hes seeing his life thru zacks eyes, when he should clearly remember everything being so recent (although the 4 years thing things arent that hazey for me). and as for dragging the sword he had just gotten over the mako addiction. he had to be weak for the beginning of ff7 also. when its a series like that you cant be buff at the end of one and come out emaciated in the continuance lol. lets go off that for right now

also the vaction on the beach was cool but wheres the gold saucer lol.

I always wondered why i could not sell the buster sword in ff7 lol. although it is the best ff weapon ever next to the lionheart.

and as for dragging the sword he had just gotten over the mako addiction. he had to be weak for the beginning of ff7 also. when its a series like that you cant be buff at the end of one and come out emaciated in the continuance lol. lets go off that for right now

One of the researcher notes Zack read after escaping from the researcher tube said that Cloud didn't react to outside stimuli or something like that and he was not expected to recover. Most people don't know that he suffered from the mako poisoning a full year after escaping Nibelhelm and he was in some sort of catatonic state.

I'd like to think there must have been some off screen recovery time between the end of Crisis Core and the start of FF7.

One of the researcher notes Zack read after escaping from the researcher tube said that Cloud did that react to outside stimuli or something like that and he was not expected to recover. Most people don't know that he suffered from the mako poisoning a full year after escaping Nibelhelm and he was in some sort of catatonic state.

I'd like to think there must have been some off screen recovery time between the end of Crisis Core and the start of FF7.

the way i see it cloud was just coming out of it (after 4 years) zack puts him down then battles. its after the battle that cloud had enough strength to crawl to zack. kinda like waking up, sometimes your not all there yet. but the rest of the walk and stimuli from finally walking again would get you goin.

also i just watched the beginning of ff7 and like i thought how the hell does barret know your on top of the train. ha

and why does assume your ready to blow up a mako reactor

Two triple-posts in a row!
Jesus H. Christ.


I'd like to think there must have been some off screen recovery time between the end of Crisis Core and the start of FF7.

Well, yeah - I don't think Cloud would just rush into Midgar, hop onto a train, and instantly help AVALANCHE in its mission to destroy the mako reactor as soon as he made it back.

Ok well then tifa obviously works at seventh heaven and analanche is stationed there why did cloud need introductions

Why would cloud need introductions at seventh heaven in sector 7. It was like his first time being there when tifa works there. i would assume that upon return to midgar he would of went somewhere if shinra then he would of been imprisoned. if he would of went looking for tifa he would of known about sector 7. what im trying to get at is that had to be the first thing he did upon arrival to midgar was hop on the train otherwise theres missing plot.

STOP DOUBLE/TRIPLE POSTING, FUCKASS

i think of different things at different times and the last one was an accident fuck you

Stop posting all together, my brain hurts.

Why would cloud need introductions at seventh heaven in sector 7. It was like his first time being there when tifa works there. i would assume that upon return to midgar he would of went somewhere if shinra then he would of been imprisoned. if he would of went looking for tifa he would of known about sector 7. what im trying to get at is that had to be the first thing he did upon arrival to midgar was hop on the train otherwise theres missing plot.

You make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

You make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

What I am trying to say is that, If there was off time between the end of crisis and the beginning of the original, what did he do? Upon arrival to Midgar if he would have gone to shinra he most likely would of been abducted once again for experiments. Now if he would have went to say nieblhelm looking for Tifa or other family members/friends, I would assume he would know Tifa was bartending at Seventh Heaven. To me if that were the case he would have known everybody. When he finally arrives in sector 7 after the mako reactor attack, he would not need an introduction. (Not sure if he was introduced to everybody but Marlene for sure). Does that make more sense?

What I am trying to say is that, If there was off time between the end of crisis and the beginning of the original, what did he do? Upon arrival to Midgar if he would have gone to shinra he most likely would of been abducted once again for experiments. Now if he would have went to say nieblhelm looking for Tifa or other family members/friends, I would assume he would know Tifa was bartending at Seventh Heaven. To me if that were the case he would have known everybody. When he finally arrives in sector 7 after the mako reactor attack, he would not need an introduction. (Not sure if he was introduced to everybody but Marlene for sure). Does that make more sense?

yes it does, but you need to stop asking stupid questions about the game. Everything happened for a reason. Reasons Square Enix (back then SquareSoft) wont tell us. >:P

Ok. Well isn't this a place to come and discuss it? A simple Cloud grew hate for shinra and saw them fight the troops. Why does everybody have to be a fucking dick about it.

Thats just how people are somtimes, just ignore them and move on. It would help them think more of you if you had't triple posted that many times though ; /.

Ok. Well isn't this a place to come and discuss it?

I've found other FF7 forums where the members are more receptive to those type of discussions than they are here. I don't know why they are so mean spirited here either.

Because as a rule, everyone here hates Final Fantasy, ESPECIALLY Final Fantasy VII. Anyone who shows any sort of fandom to either is instantly assumed to be an idiot.

Well thank you for the decent reply. I apologize for the triple posts, I had just finished the game and emotions were running wild and thoughts were jumping spiratically. It wont happen again. Also, I tried looking up rules to see if I had broke a rule but couldn't find anything. If I see the rule I'll have a newfound understanding of the reactions I received from my exploit.

its the saddest ending i had ever seen. sniff~~ y must square enix 'kill' him?

Quote:I'd like to think there must have been some off screen recovery time between the end of Crisis Core and the start of FF7


there must have been because when he first took the Buster Swordhe dragged it then in the game he swung it aroung like a bloody banana.
"](yeah thats right a banana!)[/

IIRC, there was a scene in FFVII where Tifa first found Cloud at the Train Station in the slums? (forget the sector, was it 5? near the Train Graveyard bit.)

It was in a flashback of some sort and I'm fairly sure it's where Cloud is regaining his self after falling into the Lifestream.

So logically, Cloud is atop the train at the end of Crisis Core and ends up after his journey slumped at the station. Tifa finds him and takes him to Seventh Heaven. In part due to Cloud's inferiority complex and his promise to Tifa, coupled with the mindfuck that was being experimented on by ShinRa and the resulting tragedy in escaping, starts assuming the role of ex-SOLDIER and becomes a mercenary offering services to AVALANCHE (because of course, Barret;s headquarters is underneath Seventh Heaven).

This is how it makes sense to me.

Well, that does it. I'm going to play thru FFVII again. I'll keep you posted spunodi.

Youtube Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwutoDg6M90)

Here we go!

Within that link is the scene, beginning of Disc 2, which shows how Cloud and Tifa met up upon him arriving in Midgar, explaining also the reasons for joining AVALANCHE for the Bombing Mission.

And there we have the link between the Crisis Core Ending and the Final Fantasy VII Opening!

On a slightly related note, I think that Genesis was (is?) a far better written and multi-facted villian than Sephiroth.Yeah, an even more homosexual look than Sephiroth, red leather get up, topped with line after line of faggy goth poetry. Brilliant!

(and he literally quoted loveless far more times than he said anything original and on his own behalf. All of the quotes cheesy emo crap.) Genesis is truly the tumor of a very good game.

I did especially like the ending for alot of the reasons mentioned, particularly the music playing. I liked alot of the soundtrack, particularly its acoustic style but not its battle themes (overly heavy metal crap, not much melody). When the characters started disappearing from Zack's DMW. It was just so sad, you knew he was dieing even giving it all he had.

IIRC, there was a scene in FFVII where Tifa first found Cloud at the Train Station in the slums? (forget the sector, was it 5? near the Train Graveyard bit.)

It was in a flashback of some sort and I'm fairly sure it's where Cloud is regaining his self after falling into the Lifestream.

So logically, Cloud is atop the train at the end of Crisis Core and ends up after his journey slumped at the station. Tifa finds him and takes him to Seventh Heaven. In part due to Cloud's inferiority complex and his promise to Tifa, coupled with the mindfuck that was being experimented on by ShinRa and the resulting tragedy in escaping, starts assuming the role of ex-SOLDIER and becomes a mercenary offering services to AVALANCHE (because of course, Barret;s headquarters is underneath Seventh Heaven).

This is how it makes sense to me.

I think it's more like this from what I got, the ending with Cloud on the top of the train was a renactment (sp) of the start of FFVII, and I also think that there was some recovery time for Cloud cause Tifa says something about how she notices something off with Cloud and wanted to help him out and set up the mission for him, If I'm wrong on this satement sorry.
But from the CC ending he's draging the sword bearly any strength and next day he meets up with Tifa and goes to blow the reactor? Nah prob Tifa was taking care of Cloud and they had meetings where Cloud couldn't see them.
Or well damn maybe Cloud has super healing XD
Whatever it is time recovery or not....SE likes to put plot holes to make FFVII fans think and mass headaches lol

Guys...there is always Curaga.

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