I haven't got either of these games (I've played them both but a while back) and I was just wondering which one you think I should buy?

YOU'RE MAKING AS MANY THREADS AS DE GRANDE FREAK WAS!

SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!

You should buy better games, of which there are many. Why spend money on games you've already played when you can spend it on new experiences? Fanboy logic is so silly sometimes.

I've got plenty money to buy new games as well Prak. I just bought GT5: prologue as it happens but still I'm going to buy VII or VIII, they're only cheap so it won't set me back much.

Then why would you ask which one you should buy, if
you already have the money, man??

I'll get one, play through that and if I want to play the other one afterwards i'll buy it then.

I've got plenty money to buy new games as well Prak. I just bought GT5: prologue as it happens but still I'm going to buy VII or VIII, they're only cheap so it won't set me back much.

Prologue isn't even a full game.

As for your topic, buy them both. You could probably find them to equal > $20 together.

I might do if I find a good deal, if not i'll get whichever one I feel like getting at the time.

I might do if I find a good deal, if not i'll get whichever one I feel like getting at the time.

With that said this thread has no meaning........

You should buy better games, of which there are many. Why spend money on games you've already played when you can spend it on new experiences? Fanboy logic is so silly sometimes.

It's more like smart money management.
If he likes the games and has played them before, he knows he's putting his bucks to good use.

i say u buy VII it ia the 2nd best ff game ever 1st is IX

Guys this thread is about wat he should buy not money management

i say u buy VII it ia the 2nd best ff game ever 1st is IX


Guys this thread is about wat he should buy not money management

Don't double post, you dumbass fanboy.

i say u buy VII it ia the 2nd best ff game ever 1st is IX

Yeah I just ordered VII this morning. I also agree that IX is the best.

Oh, which one should he buy?
FFVIII.
Better game in every way than FFVII except maybe the battle system which is gay.

So...if I want to raise my character's stats I have to junction magic but then if I use that magic my stats keep going down?
Lame.

Wow that was fast, I ordered FFVII from ebay yesterday and it arrived early this morning. So far it's very good.

FF7 is really a good game and i think both bring fun.I can understand why your decision was hard because both have a cool story.I would to advise to buy 8 also in the futer, its not waste of money and many new games should have so good storys like the older games.Because many of the new have good graphic but story is low.

I'm going to buy VIII in the near future.

YOU'RE MAKING AS MANY THREADS AS DE GRANDE FREAK WAS!

SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!

I wouldn't make so many threads if this place didn't become dead all the time.

Oh, which one should he buy?
FFVIII.
Better game in every way than FFVII except maybe the battle system which is gay.

And the characters, of which only two are developed in any way, and that development is, in the case of Squall, rushed, to say the least.

And the lazy plot twists (GF made me forget/we all grew up in this orphanage together and have the exact same history)

And the optional stuff (apart from Triple Triad and the optional GFs/bosses, there's very little to do. Whereas VII has Fort Condor, Chocobo breeding, Gold Saucer, Yuffie and Vincent optional plots, plus a load of optional bosses)

And the whole gameplay and stat building system of VIII, which allows you to get 3000 HP at Lv. 8, and generally rewards you for not levelling up.

I would go as far as saying that VII is a better game than VIII in every way apart from graphically, and possibly, the music (although that's subjective). Sure, VII's plot holes are annoying, but I'd rather plot holes than the completely lazy plot and character design of FFVIII.

And Harkus, quality > quantity. Instead of making loads of very brief threads like this one, you should try to write something that will genuinely stimulate debate and get people talking. Wait until you've finished VII, and then write your thoughts on it. (although, if you say you like it, Prak will probably have a field day)

And yes, I'm aware of the irony that I'm also posting here while condemning the thread, but it's really just to set the record straight on FFVIII.

YOU'RE MAKING AS MANY THREADS AS DE GRANDE FREAK WAS!

SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!

QFT. Also, both games rather suck. If you insist on playing a jRPG on the psx, go after Lunar or Star Ocean 2. Yeah, I know you've already started FFVII, but for future reference, and all. Y'know. 'Cause I'm the friendly sort like that. ;)

I am also going to add my voice to Swami's 'slow down' message.

QFT. Also, both games rather suck. If you insist on playing a jRPG on the psx, go after Lunar or Star Ocean 2. Yeah, I know you've already started FFVII, but for future reference, and all. Y'know. 'Cause I'm the friendly sort like that. ;)

Thanks for the advice.

And the characters, of which only two are developed in any way, and that development is, in the case of Squall, rushed, to say the least.

We're talking only the main heroes here?
Because then only Cloud and Tifa got any development past the first disk unless we include Vincent and Yuffie which is of course entirely optional.



And the lazy plot twists (GF made me forget/we all grew up in this orphanage together and have the exact same history)

Kinda like "I really have this OTHER guy's memory" which Tifa didn't mention ONCE during the whole "Cloud's Past" segment...

Great storytelling that.



And the optional stuff (apart from Triple Triad and the optional GFs/bosses, there's very little to do. Whereas VII has Fort Condor, Chocobo breeding, Gold Saucer, Yuffie and Vincent optional plots, plus a load of optional bosses)

VIII has plenty of optional bosses as well. Plus the agony of Chocobo Breeding and Triple Triad are two of the most worthless game aspects in history.


I would go as far as saying that VII is a better game than VIII in every way apart from graphically, and possibly, the music (although that's subjective). Sure, VII's plot holes are annoying, but I'd rather plot holes than the completely lazy plot and character design of FFVIII.

I'll take "the chains of fate compel an evil sorceress to try and change her inevitable death being the cause of her inevitable death" over "I'm evil and want to drop a rock on the world because I want to be a GOD!!!!!!"

I wouldn't make so many threads if this place didn't become dead all the time.

There's only so much you can say about FF before it's stale and overdone.

Last I checked there was plenty more to talk about on the Shrine than FF.

I wouldn't make so many threads if this place didn't become dead all the time.

well said

Neither.

We're talking only the main heroes here?
Because then only Cloud and Tifa got any development past the first disk unless we include Vincent and Yuffie which is of course entirely optional.

That ignores the fact that the majority of the story occurred on the first disc in FFVII. The first disc generally takes a lot longer to complete than the second disc, and the third disc is simply the final battle. Yes, many characters didn't recieve significant development after the first disc, but the first disc was 40 hours long. It's all relative.

Besides, they aren't the only ones who recieve attention on the second disc. What about Cid, who learns to deal with more responsibility, taking over the leading of the party, and learns that Shera was actually right about the oxygen tank? Or Barret, the wannabe leader who learns that above all, his daughter is more important than personal glory and revenge?

Yes, I understand that this isn't amazingly detailed development but my point is that the FFVIII characters largely don't even recieve this basic level of development. Quistis' character is briefly explored, Zell's too, but what about Selphie or Irvine? They're really just 'there' and don't serve much purpose in terms of the the plot.


Kinda like "I really have this OTHER guy's memory" which Tifa didn't mention ONCE during the whole "Cloud's Past" segment...

Great storytelling that.

Actually, if you watch that scene, you'll note that she questions Cloud about the accuracy of the events, as they are about to leave the inn (the game's scripting doesn't exactly help in terms of clarity, mind). Something along the lines of 'that doesn't seem right.....wasn't there more'. Obviously, the full details are kept from you at that point, because that is the whole point of a plot twist.


VIII has plenty of optional bosses as well.

I know. I mentioned that in my post. This sort of optional content, however, lacks any significant variety and gets pretty tedious after a while.


Plus the agony of Chocobo Breeding and Triple Triad are two of the most worthless game aspects in history.

Hang on. Let me get this straight. You're trying to argue in favour of a game by slating its main minigame as worthless?

(Incidentally, I quite liked Triple Triad, but my point was that there was zero else of worth in terms of optional stuff in VIII. Plus, the whole chocobo minigame in VIII being on the Pocket Station was retarded. Game elements which you can't access without buying a guide or another piece of software are a major flaw. You should be able to get everything from the game simply by buying it.)

Also, Chocobo breeding in itself could be annoyingly time consuming, but at least you had the opportunity to race them to pass the time in between breedings. Furthermore, it yields great rewards to those who do it properly, something that cannot be said of any of VIII's sidequests.


I'll take "the chains of fate compel an evil sorceress to try and change her inevitable death being the cause of her inevitable death" over "I'm evil and want to drop a rock on the world because I want to be a GOD!!!!!!"

I can't honestly argue about Sephiroth being a terrible villain but I could retort that Ultimecia's character is handled pretty badly too.

Because you spend half the game thinking she's Edea you don't get the chance to learn anything significant about her. I haven't seen the ending so will have to accept your explanation of her motives, but the sheer fact that her introduction is handled so badly costs her major points.

Also, one additional thing: you neglected to respond to my gripes about FFVIII's gameplay, which is really its biggest flaw and what puts it clearly behind FFVII for me.

VIII's plot twist - "ROFL, orphanage"

I wouldn't make so many threads if this place didn't become dead all the time.

I lol'd

you clearly have not seen any of Garamond's smash-related threads, or read any of Prak's wonderful poetry.

I haven't seen Garamond in a while?

He changed his name to 'Phoenix Wright'.

same arguments, different thread

and i think 7 and 8 are both great games to waste sum time on

Both good games but if you wanna try something unfamiliar and you have a bit of spare cash i would reccomend Vagrant Story takes a bit of time to get used to but a great game!

Both good games but if you wanna try something unfamiliar and you have a bit of spare cash i would reccomend Vagrant Story takes a bit of time to get used to but a great game!

i tried it then i got fed up trying to figure out how to play it and now it lies happily in my drawer i might play it someday when i get a guide for it

If you want to buy a FF game it should be Final Fantasy VII is the best FF so far...you've got the perfect villains and heroes...the storyline is perfect!!!

Nice going posting in a thread that's long since resolved to say something idiotic.

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Prak's old avatar > Prak's new avatar

If you want to buy a FF game it should be Final Fantasy VII is the best FF so far...you've got the perfect villains and heroes...the storyline is perfect!!!

Fanboyism alert!

Fanboyism alert!

Really? I had not noticed.

Its back at the top of the list again now because of your post. Kinda pointless. Close please?