So I am at the first Demon wall and my guys are 23-25 and I can't win. So i go back out side to lv up when I see that fyan has silence. So i use a echo herbs and it says MISS. WTF so I go to a save spot and hit that. SHE STILL HAS IT ON HER.

So I am at the first Demon wall and my guys are 23-25 and I can't win. So i go back out side to lv up when I see that fyan has silence. So i use a echo herbs and it says MISS. WTF so I go to a save spot and hit that. SHE STILL HAS IT ON HER.

There is an accessory that when you equip it you get silenced. She probably has it equipped, that's the only logical explanation I can think of.

I remember having the "Mirror Mail" on and trying to figure out why Reflect wasn't running out and why I couldn't even Dispel it.

EDIT: Oh, and you're supposed to run from the first Demon Wall and beat the second, then come back later and beat the first. Unless of course you know that and are aiming for a challenge of getting the Demonsbane early. That's about the only point in beating it, really, besides getting more Clan Points.

I beat the storyline demonwall at lvl 19-20 with great ease, and the optional one at lvl 21-22, with a slight bit of effort. Mind you, I'm not much of a die-hard gamer, so if I can, most others will probably be able to aswell.

And ye, I think it's the manufactured nethicite that gives auto silence, unequip it and it goes bye bye silence.

Shit, I did not see that at the bottom of the item.

Well, about the wall Its got like 22,000 hit points. When I try it i only 2 people with 1 quickening how ever after reading up on some game plans

I am going to use the reserve people first then pull the main party in and all 3 main chr. will have 2 quickening then I am going to cast Berserk

That should do it because my main guys are now Lv 26

Yup. I want that sword BAD. looks cool too. My guide says that you don't always get it tho so do you just have to wait for the chest to respawn or do you have to load game and do it over again?

I killed the wall but it says "Hidden Jewel Nothing happens , you glimpse some manner of device behind the the jewl"

Well I got in. and I follow the path down and around and i only saw one chest. I got a 30gil from it the first time and a lame item the next time. I am just wondering if I am doing the load game with the right chest.

edit. I got the sword. Had to reload game 3 times but wow atk power went from 35 to 59.

I have a question tho. Who do you guys use as your tank and who is your healer? I ask because I saw a video were ashe seem to be the tank.

I have this set up

Vaan-spears heavy armor
Basch-swords heavy armor
Ashe bows mistic armor -magic caster healer

Good? bad?

I actually kept going back to areas, to respawn the chest, until i had three Demonsbane's. They are very usefull, the best sword you can get infact, until you can pick up Icebrands i think. But i might be wrong.

At that stage in the game. I had all three of characters equipt with heavy armour and a Demonsbane. The characters were Vaan, Basch and Ashe. Each person had the license for all the white magic anyway, so i just used whoever wasnt busy to heal really. Same for Black magic. If i was to say i used a tank, I would say Vaan, but like i said, My characters were pretty evenly stacked. Although Vaan was a few levels higher.

Thats a good idea. I think I am going to back track if I can and do that to my guys. If not I will wait for the next sword no problem. That does sound like a good idea. I am just a few pages away from getting that double LP anyways. The only thing that gets me is that it seems like al the espers come at the very end of the game so what the point really at that stage.

The tomb of raithwall is not near the end of the game. If thats what your saying. I might have misunderstood. And the espers you get are also not just at the end of the game. Alot of the opitional ones are. But quite a few are story based. Double LP is great. Remember to buy at least 3 Golden amulets, then the party members who arn't in battle will still aquire the double LP. I bought 6 so that whenever i was levelling up, everybody could take advantage of it.

Since nobody has a battle personality, anybody can be your tank. I use Basch and Vaan on the front-lines and use Balthier as a gunner/healer

Not entirely true -- Penelo seems to be stronger at magic than some of the others, while others are better are pure strength.

Since nobody has a battle personality, anybody can be your tank. I use Basch and Vaan on the front-lines and use Balthier as a gunner/healer

What is it Jeff, you don't like chicks?

Nah, not that I have everybody on the same level just the ladies are backup. Fran is a bitchin' mage, and Penelo with a samurai sword is too great. Ashe is just so stern, I keep her as a lady warrior.

I have Penelo as my lead with the Zodiac Spear equipped currently.

^ Agent, I too have a soft spot for seeing Penelo deal loads of damage. As soon as I get the Masamune I'm going to load her up with the Genji Gloves :)

Yeah, Jeff. I use penelo with samurai swords. When i first went through the sandsea, i came across the uratan exile, and when i beat him, took the osafune ( it think thats the one) and gave it penelo. needless to say, she was awesome.