Felix999
02-16-2008, 04:24 PM
Why would anyone bitch about this character ? I mean come on, you like Zidane who's supposedly an all-rounder but you think Quina sucks? Why? Quina has utility spells,awesome damage with spells and decent attack damage if you get lucky (unlike vivi,garnet,eiko).On top of that,his hp is very good...It's not by accident that he's implemented in a 4-man team on most guides to beating Ozma...But it's not only combat wise.FFIX is a comedy-game not a drama one like the previous and FFX.Quina certainly supports this mood,his scenes are the funniest,his whole questing purpose is orginal and very funny...And I for one am relieved that finally I meet a strong character that is neither chuck norris,nor some insolent egomaniac bastard nor a hulking superman clad in steel...Quina is ORIGINAL and he makes the race of fat gourmands happy!All cheer for him!

TM
02-16-2008, 04:29 PM
And how exactly do you "own" Quina?

Felix999
02-16-2008, 04:33 PM
Eeehm I do not own Quina and I am refusing any legal rights over him :P However I feel Quina as a small child (he is,mentally) and wish to protect him ..

Wei Yan
02-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Quina is not a male, but of indeterminate gender, so your constant reffering to it as him is wrong in the first place.

Second, blue magic sucks... No seriously, it does. Never been a big fan of it.

Third, Quina doesn't add jack shit to the entire storyline. It would've been exactly the same without it, except for the fact you might've had to look a bit harder for the Gargan Roo entrance.

That's all there's to it, and it simply isen't enough.

Oh, and referring to a Final Fantasy game as a Comedy is... Well... Not too smart around here.

Vaati
02-16-2008, 06:07 PM
Second, blue magic sucks... No seriously, it does. Never been a big fan of it.

1000 Needles is pretty good mid-game around the start of the Outer Continent. Frog Drop and Auto-Life are also quite useful throughout the game.

Erebus Wraith
02-16-2008, 06:10 PM
And I for one am relieved that finally I meet a strong character that is neither chuck norris

Im curious how you could compare Chuck Norris to Quina. The differences are astronomical.


Second, blue magic sucks... No seriously

Quoted for Truth. I dont want to be spending every battle trying to weaken enemies just so the fat thing could eat it.

Psycho_Cyan
02-16-2008, 08:53 PM
Second, blue magic sucks... No seriously, it does. Never been a big fan of it.

Yeah, 'cause Frog Drop is so incredibly bad. Cheap, easy quad-9's? Who needs 'em? :rolleyes: Magic Hammer on Ozma is also lulz. Stop! Hammer time!


Third, Quina doesn't add jack shit to the entire storyline. It would've been exactly the same without it, except for the fact you might've had to look a bit harder for the Gargan Roo entrance.

Comic relief doesn't count for anything? Or is FFIX just too kiddie for you?

RikkuYunaRinoa
02-16-2008, 09:27 PM
I love this thread

TM
02-16-2008, 10:03 PM
Wei Yan, I'd love to see you try and explain why blue magic is shit. It actually some very usefull abilities such as frog drop, mighty guard, white wind, auto life and magic hammer.


Quoted for Truth. I dont want to be spending every battle trying to weaken enemies just so the fat thing could eat it.

That's the eat ability, not the fucking "blue magic"


However I feel Quina as a small child (he is,mentally) and wish to protect him ..

Are you Quale?

Erebus Wraith
02-16-2008, 11:11 PM
That's the eat ability, not the fucking "blue magic"


Yeah but you EAT them to get the magic is the FIRST place. I'm just saying I don't want to run around eating things just so I can get the magic. It isn't worth my time.

ROKI
02-16-2008, 11:22 PM
Personally, I just love to use Blue Magic. I guess its because I rarely use White Mages in FFIX. And Quina has both spells for attacking and healing.

TM
02-17-2008, 12:19 AM
Yeah but you EAT them to get the magic is the FIRST place. I'm just saying I don't want to run around eating things just so I can get the magic. It isn't worth my time.


Then the EAT ability sucks, not blue magic itself. Which is what you implyed by quoting Wei Yan.

Marshall Lee
02-17-2008, 01:02 AM
Cait Sith all the way :D

RikkuYunaRinoa
02-17-2008, 05:33 PM
I never even used Quina to be honest.

Erebus Wraith
02-17-2008, 05:38 PM
Then the EAT ability sucks, not blue magic itself. Which is what you implyed by quoting Wei Yan.

Then my apologies for miscommunicating

Octiron
02-18-2008, 06:11 PM
I don't know why anyone would complain about Quina. Aside from its part in the plot, which is mainly comic relief and works really well there, it's a great character to use.

Qus are gourmands and learn by eating so Blue Mage is a natural job for them. I find using Eat to be great fun and the some of the blue magic is actually quite handy as has been pointed out. Furthermore, using a blue mage is a pleasant alternative to the old "fighter, black/white mage" combos every other party ends up being.

Its looks? They fit quite well with the fantasy setting. How are Qus more ridiculous than moogles, chocobos or even the cooks at Alexandria Castle?

Wei Yan
02-18-2008, 10:56 PM
Comic relief doesn't count for anything? Or is FFIX just too kiddie for you?

I'm more of the subtle humor kinda guy, not the make fun of the weird character that wants to eat stuff and speaks bad english humor kinda guy. So Quina didn't add much for me when it comes to comic relief, but that's just my perception.

As for FFIX being too kiddie... Nope? ^^ Though I suppose some would refer to the more cartoonesque atmosphere as kiddie.

Zak
02-19-2008, 12:11 AM
Generally, Blue Magic is awesome, but in FFIX it really got the shaft. I mean, VIII had Shockwave Pulsar and Degenerator, VII had Magic Breath... none of the Blue Magic in IX is worth much, unfortunately.

Hell, even X-2 had better Blue Magic than this game.

Psycho_Cyan
02-19-2008, 04:28 AM
Generally, Blue Magic is awesome, but in FFIX it really got the shaft. I mean, VIII had Shockwave Pulsar and Degenerator, VII had Magic Breath... none of the Blue Magic in IX is worth much, unfortunately.

Hell, even X-2 had better Blue Magic than this game.

Did you even read the thread, or did you just see "Quina" in the title and interpret his/her name as "ITT: post +1?"

As multiple posters have noted, Frog Drop alone makes Quina worth your time. Guaranteed quad-9's for 10 MP? Yeah, that totally sucks... :rolleyes:


I'm more of the subtle humor kinda guy, not the make fun of the weird character that wants to eat stuff and speaks bad english humor kinda guy.

Yeah, Zidane perving on Garnet is totally subtle.

Zulu
02-19-2008, 06:55 PM
1. Most of Quina's Blue Magic are useless, but not all.
2. It's fun to acquire all of her/his abilities, at least for me.
3. People should stop hating on Quina, or turn gay.

ive made my point , so dats it 4 all off u

Felix999
02-20-2008, 12:30 PM
Ok guys I have not read this thread for a long time but I wish to say a couple of things .. First of all I started this thread NOT having finished the game.I am near the ark boss now and let me say these.. Ok Quina just got the earth shake and bad breath spells.There are great spells at least for now .. His white wind does decent healing and he has many KOs like mustard bomb and lvl5 death.In addition,he is the 3rd highest hp char (after steiner and zidane) and sometimes his attacks deal well over 1.7 k dmg. These stats are quite simply,amazing . But these were not my main arguments to begin with.I love Quina , as I said , because he is not a stereotype hero UNLIKE Chuck Norris and big bad knight-in-silver-armor Steiner ... I hope you get my point now... And as for the whole "my" Quina thing , well just forget about it :P

Marshall Lee
02-20-2008, 12:38 PM
Ok guys I have not read this thread for a long time but I wish to say a couple of things .. First of all I started this thread NOT having finished the game.I am near the ark boss now and let me say these.. Ok Quina just got the earth shake and bad breath spells.There are great spells at least for now .. His white wind does decent healing and he has many KOs like mustard bomb and lvl5 death.In addition,he is the 3rd highest hp char (after steiner and zidane) and sometimes his attacks deal well over 1.7 k dmg. These stats are quite simply,amazing . But these were not my main arguments to begin with.I love Quina , as I said , because he is not a stereotype hero UNLIKE Chuck Norris and big bad knight-in-silver-armor Steiner ... I hope you get my point now... And as for the whole "my" Quina thing , well just forget about it :P

NEVER!!!

...btw Quina is an "IT" :D

Wei Yan
02-20-2008, 03:33 PM
Yeah, Zidane perving on Garnet is totally subtle.

I didn't quite see the humor of that either tbh. Maybe I just lack TEH FOONEY.

We do seem to argue alot ^^

Psycho_Cyan
02-21-2008, 09:14 AM
Stuff about Quina

All you need to know about Quina is Frog Drop=Total Pwnage. Yeah, I'm kinda harping on this, but people apparently don't get it. Frog Drop can guarantee 9999 damage. It costs 10 MP. Steiner's Shock doesn't even guarantee quad-9's, and it costs over 40 MP. Same with Vivi's Flare, unless you play Reflect x2 games.


I didn't quite see the humor of that either tbh. Maybe I just lack TEH FOONEY.

My point, since you didn't quite see that, either, is that the vast majority of FFIX's humor isn't exactly subtle. Since you didn't find Quina or Zidane/Dagger humorous, what exactly was funny?


We do seem to argue alot ^^

You call this arguing? Please.

Zulu
02-21-2008, 12:12 PM
Frop Drop is indeed one kick-ass move. But, a lot of people don't have the patience to catch all of those frogs - I love it, though.

Rainbow Boogers
02-21-2008, 12:49 PM
Quina is not a male
She is clearly female and needs to get her ass back into the kitchen.

Wei Yan
02-21-2008, 02:29 PM
My point, since you didn't quite see that, either, is that the vast majority of FFIX's humor isn't exactly subtle. Since you didn't find Quina or Zidane/Dagger humorous, what exactly was funny?

Nothing much really, I usually don't play games for teh lulz. If I want to laugh I'll watch a Steven Seagal movie.



You call this arguing? Please.

Ok, then we're not arguing, either way is fine for me. :D



Quote:
Originally Posted by Wei Yan
Quina is not a male

She is clearly female and needs to get her ass back into the kitchen.

Did you even read the rest of that post? Or did you just stop at OMG QUINA IS NOT MALE HE'S RITE ZOMG.

FF1WithAllThieves
02-21-2008, 05:55 PM
The phrase "needs to get her ass back into the kitchen" strongly suggests that that post was somewhat facetious.

Felix999
02-21-2008, 06:11 PM
Ok I have given up all hope in this thread ...

Rainbow Boogers
02-22-2008, 12:38 AM
Did you even read the rest of that post? Or did you just stop at OMG QUINA IS NOT MALE HE'S RITE ZOMG.

Yes, but I didn't give a diddly squat about the rest.


Solly.


The phrase "needs to get her ass back into the kitchen" strongly suggests that that post was somewhat facetious.
Yes.

I didn't know Final Fantasy XI was serious business discussion. My mistake, I'll never do it again. I can only hope Wei Yan will forgive me.

Buttsex?

Wei Yan
02-23-2008, 03:59 PM
I didn't know Final Fantasy XI was serious business discussion. My mistake, I'll never do it again. I can only hope Wei Yan will forgive me.

Buttsex?

This being a Final Fantasy XI discussion forum... Obviously? :p

I do nots forgive you and yes please. But you are the girl.

FinalFantasyGuyMartin
02-23-2008, 10:15 PM
Quina rules, if you pair limit glove and auto-life you get 9999 guaranteed damage

(use auto life, kill quina , she/he back at 1 health , use limit glove 9999 KABOOM easy damage) i used this tactic on grand dragons at gizamalukes grotto when i first got there i killed gizamaluke 1 hit coz i was too leveled up

Felix999
02-23-2008, 11:43 PM
Now THERE's a helpful post ... Nice tip man thnx ! I always thought limit glove was nice I just didn't know how to ensure Quina gets to 1 hp ...

Rastabilly Skank
02-24-2008, 02:14 PM
I thought Quina was a hermaphrodite because in dialogue with Quina it would be spoken like this "S/he needs a cookie." or perhaps the characters of Final Fantasy IX like us, plainly weren't informed of Quina's sexuality and in all probability will never find out.

electus
02-28-2008, 05:09 AM
haha, great thread.

I like Quina because it attacks things with GIANT UTENSILS!!!!!!!!

A strange creature of indeterminate gender armed with giant utensils.... can anyone think of anything else more hilarious? or frightening?

I can't.

DaKine
02-29-2008, 05:32 AM
A strange creature of indeterminate gender armed with giant utensils.... can anyone think of anything else more hilarious? or frightening?

I can't.

Here. () I definitely can.

Marshall Lee
02-29-2008, 05:35 AM
Now that I think about it Quina was somewhat remniscent of Gogo, at least to me anyway.

electus
02-29-2008, 04:33 PM
Here. () I definitely can.

Wow, way to make fun of kids with Hutchinson-Gilford Progeria Syndrome.

That's not funny at all.

DaKine
02-29-2008, 09:25 PM
Wow, way to make fun of kids with Hutchinson-Gilford Progeria Syndrome.

That's not funny at all.

It was the first thing I managed to Google. Frightening, eh?

Glad to see that my point was clearly addressed.

electus
02-29-2008, 09:47 PM
Clearly addressed may be an understatement. lol.

I still think Quina is more frightening.... but not as frightening as COUNT ORLOCK!!!!!

DaKine
02-29-2008, 10:45 PM
.... but not as frightening as COUNT ORLOCK!!!!!



vorvel
03-15-2008, 08:32 AM
Getting characters to level fast could never be as quick and painless if you use Quina. Just have Quina in your party with lvl 5 death and walk around outside of Daguerro. instant kill a Grand Dragon every five seconds. yay!

Need some Gill? Have Quina in your party and equip Quina's unique support ability Millionaire. And you will get some needed cash in no time at all! :D

Oh no, this monster is eating away my party's HP so quickly with physical and magic attacks! Oh wait, doesn't Quina have Mighty Guard? yay! the monsters damage has decreased, my party survives a little longer :D

Ahh! my party has been inflicted with bad status effects and are spinning around with confusion! Ah! Quina has Angel's Snack! yay party Esuna :D o.o ... where did my remedies go?

Jarosik
03-26-2008, 11:21 PM
I thought/and still think Quina is a good character within FFIX. The basis of my thoughts revolving purely around a couple of things; his/her basic comedic value and the skills (through Blue Magic) that are brought to the party. Any proper fan of Final Fantasy IX will play it through numerous times, mixing their preferred party (where they can) with the same characters. The first time I played it I couldn't stand the character Quina. I found he/she as an annoyance, and nothing more than a side character, BUT in recent plays, if you want to actually explore the game then you'll use him/her.

Similar to deciding wether or not you'll use Garnet or Eiko as your party's healer, Quina will be one of those who you'll sacrifice an Amarant or a Steiner as something a little different. I think it's all down to your experience not once over, but a few times over wether or not you'll choose him/her. Personally, Quina is a strong character, and MOST chucklesome (if you take th time to read the dialogue).

Disclaimer: I am drunk but Quina is still WIN.

Marshall Lee
03-26-2008, 11:23 PM
Guys, Quina will be included in the next Disney Princesses collection :D

yanneilucia
03-30-2008, 10:45 PM
Quina rules, if you pair limit glove and auto-life you get 9999 guaranteed damage

(use auto life, kill quina , she/he back at 1 health , use limit glove 9999 KABOOM easy damage) i used this tactic on grand dragons at gizamalukes grotto when i first got there i killed gizamaluke 1 hit coz i was too leveled up

I did the same thing, and after that entered the Buremacia as a lv50- and some more. Quina annihilated the fun in this game, unlike the first time I played when it was having a lol-ness strike like no other character.

Anyway...I support Quina, it's unique above all.

Harkus
03-30-2008, 10:57 PM
Quina is an awesome character! The mighty guard is reason enough to use him/her

yanneilucia
03-30-2008, 11:00 PM
Please help me! I can see that we both have this ''line'' above our quotes. Why isn't it a picture? It's suppose to be a picture!
P.S I'm so sorry for using this thread to ask this but, now is a pefect chance.
sorry!

DaKine
03-31-2008, 05:33 PM
Please help me!

http://forums.ffshrine.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7

yanneilucia
03-31-2008, 11:02 PM
Thanks a bunch!

FinalFantasyGuyMartin
04-08-2008, 06:43 PM
say u hve 1 hp / 9999hp , 14mp with quina
enemy has 9998hp
You cant use limit glove because you need more mp (i think)
what do you do???
PUMPKIN HEAD 9998 damage
monster dead
Victory

gained 7689exp
recieved .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. nothing

Harkus
04-08-2008, 06:48 PM
Quina is a very strong character but I wouldn't use him/her very much because Steiner can use magic sword when vivi is also battling so I choose Steiner over quina.

GhostFreak
05-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Most people never gave Quina a chance and in fact Quina seems to always make peoples list of "Things I hated most about FFIX". Who can blame them though? First time around I thought Quina was the most useless character to ever be in game. Playing the game again a few years later, older and wiser I actually used Quina on my team most of the time.

Quina's blue magic is actually very powerful if used correctly. If you take the time to eat many of the enemies in an area you can actually gain some very powerful and helpful attacks. I think the first time around people just did not understand Quina's purpose, let's face it her/his character was very minor but with a further look you actually understand what her/his purpose is in the game.

Quina's mission was to gain a larger perspective of the world, to look for new things and taste the foods of the world. Which is exactly what you're supposed to do with Quina. Explore his/her abilities and take the time to learn new things just like Quina takes the time to explore the world and open his/her mind.

It was a statement that people can't judge what they see based on assumptions and only what they see with their two eyes. They need to explore new possibilities and keep an open mind. I think the reason why this was overlooked was because it was TOO simple for people to comprehend. But I thought that was the greatest point about Quina, she wasn't overcomplicated, or some sappy storyline thrown in just to get sympathy. It was simple and to the point. Even at the beginning Quina's mentor even says something the lines of "Quina you need to go out in the world and explore. There are things beyond this swamp. Gain a better perspective of the world." Not the exact quote but I think I got the message down right. Quina's quote is even "I do what I want! You have problem?!". She represented the ignorance of the world, and her mission was to eliminate that ignorant by re-evaluating the world through exploring it.

So in conclusion there was certainly a purpose to Quina's character. it was certainly there, it's just that people didn't get it.

Turx
05-06-2008, 08:37 PM
I found him/her very helpful. Especially early on, by gaining White Wind in Qu's Marsh. It's a full party Regen.

Really helped with a lot of bosses.

She made me laugh. That's purpose enough, along with her goal in exploration of foods, etc...

vorvel
05-07-2008, 08:06 AM
White Wind does not cast regen, it restores hp to a certain amount apparently determined by Quina's hp. furthermore, White Wind can be obtained as early as Cleyra where you can find the infamous Zu bird. eat that to obtain white wind. also note that carrion worm in Cleyra trunk gives Auto-Life to Quina if eaten.

Another thing, Reis' Wind (Freya) casts a party regen obtainable before fighting Beatrix in Burmecia.

Note that Quina is the first character of 8 to reach 9999 damage early in the game, as early as disc 1!! this is followed by Freya then Zidane =)

Another note to add that Quina is the only blue mage throughout every final fantasy series where they do not have to be hit to learn the magic and furthermore Quina is one of very few in the series to obtain all blue magic without any being one-timers (as in if you defeat a monster and it has the skill and you didnt get it, you can never ever get it again! ever!) or any being extremely high level to obtain that magic! you go Quina!

Turx
05-07-2008, 10:01 PM
White Wind does not cast regen, it restores hp to a certain amount apparently determined by Quina's hp. furthermore, White Wind can be obtained as early as Cleyra where you can find the infamous Zu bird. eat that to obtain white wind. also note that carrion worm in Cleyra trunk gives Auto-Life to Quina if eaten.

Another thing, Reis' Wind (Freya) casts a party regen obtainable before fighting Beatrix in Burmecia.

Note that Quina is the first character of 8 to reach 9999 damage early in the game, as early as disc 1!! this is followed by Freya then Zidane =)

Another note to add that Quina is the only blue mage throughout every final fantasy series where they do not have to be hit to learn the magic and furthermore Quina is one of very few in the series to obtain all blue magic without any being one-timers (as in if you defeat a monster and it has the skill and you didnt get it, you can never ever get it again! ever!) or any being extremely high level to obtain that magic! you go Quina!


Ahhhh, ok. Thanks for the correction.

Ngrplz
05-07-2008, 10:53 PM
FFIX is a comedy? LOL

Psycho_Cyan
05-09-2008, 11:50 PM
FFIX is a comedy? LOL

Well it isn't a tragedy...

Harkus
05-10-2008, 01:39 PM
It's not a comedy though.

Psycho_Cyan
05-10-2008, 09:50 PM
Only if you don't know the literary term, as opposed to its 'modern' butchering.

gointerceptor
05-19-2008, 04:29 PM
I really want to use quina...but its so annoying when i keep using blue magic and all i get is miss....

how the hell do you miss with aqua rake???? its a freakin elemental magic spell!

All Seeing Eye
05-19-2008, 07:06 PM
I never took Quina seriously. I have played with him/her and realized with work, the character can become quite powerful. However, that's the truth with all the characters in the game, not just Quina. Quit frankly, I enjoyed having Zidane, Garnet, Steiner, and other characters in my party more then him/her. To me, the character was just comedy relief filler, just like Cat Sith.

gointerceptor
05-20-2008, 10:59 PM
well my question still stands...how come you miss most of the time when using aqua rake?

vorvel
05-25-2008, 01:33 AM
Aqua Breath hits all enemy targets and its chance to deal damage is 50%. Aqua Breath also reduces thier hp by a certain percentage.

Death_For_Romance
10-24-2008, 11:06 AM
Alright, I know nobody has been looking at this for a long time, but I thought I'd read through ALL of the forums, and just incase someone does decide to read this they'll know.. It DOES say Whether or not Quina is a male or a female IN the game. BUT you have to do a certain side-quest before it tells you.. You also have to get ALL of his Blue Magic abilities BEFORE you get to that part. I could tell you what he is, but I'm going to be an ass about it. I'm going to let you guys find out for YOURSELF. Nobdoy woudl believe me even if I told you.
To be honest, Quina was one of my favorite characters, a little ignorant, but all the characters had their bad points. Dagger was a bitch(Her REAL name was also listed in the game.. ti wasn't Garnet), Amarant was arrogant, Zidane was a player, Steiner was a fucking moron, Vivi was too cute, Freya I never used enough to point out a bad thing about and Eiko was too fucking sensitive. And as whoever it was that was talking about "some people not having the patience to catch all of the frogs", well, they need to fucking learn the patience and no better way to practice it than by doing something that you find very frustrating.

ROKI
10-25-2008, 10:15 AM
Death_For_Romance, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN FIGHT THE CHEESE WEAPON IN FFVII?

FF1WithAllThieves
11-04-2008, 08:01 PM
Alright, I know nobody has been looking at this for a long time, but I thought I'd read through ALL of the forums, and just incase someone does decide to read this they'll know.. It DOES say Whether or not Quina is a male or a female IN the game. BUT you have to do a certain side-quest before it tells you.. You also have to get ALL of his Blue Magic abilities BEFORE you get to that part. I could tell you what he is, but I'm going to be an ass about it. I'm going to let you guys find out for YOURSELF. Nobdoy woudl believe me even if I told you.
To be honest, Quina was one of my favorite characters, a little ignorant, but all the characters had their bad points. Dagger was a bitch(Her REAL name was also listed in the game.. ti wasn't Garnet), Amarant was arrogant, Zidane was a player, Steiner was a fucking moron, Vivi was too cute, Freya I never used enough to point out a bad thing about and Eiko was too fucking sensitive. And as whoever it was that was talking about "some people not having the patience to catch all of the frogs", well, they need to fucking learn the patience and no better way to practice it than by doing something that you find very frustrating.

Concealing fail. Also, coherence? You should give it a try sometime.

Hawkeye_1138
11-04-2008, 09:24 PM
What ever happened to the spoiler option?...

daggx
11-02-2012, 12:25 AM
all characters are good in the way they sum more variety that was interesting in ff9, like if all characters will be equal would be boring, so the variety of different characters not just mentally also physically makes it interesting