MageRage
12-06-2007, 11:00 AM
Ok, getting annoyed, DeathZombie won't use Pandoras Box!

Also, anyone know how to get all the Enemy skills for the 4th E-Skill materia (the one from Sage's chocobo) cause Aqualung, laser, trine and a coupla others are missing and I dont know of anyone this late in the game I can get them off.

Ceidwad
12-06-2007, 01:05 PM
Aqualung I think is only available early on in the game. You can get it from a creature called Harpy in the Corel Desert if you use Manipulate, but I doubt you can still get there without the buggy.

Laser I think is another one that's only available in Corel, in the Desert Prison in the area just before you fight Dyne.

Trine is easy. There are a number of creatures which use this. Probably the place to go is the Great Glacier, inside Gaea's Cliff. You'll find Stilvas there, manipulate them to get them to use Trine.

RakeArmageddon
12-06-2007, 01:59 PM
There Should Be A Dark Dragon In The Northern Cave Which Has Laser. Try Manipulating Him (He Also Has Dragon Force)
You can Find a Harpy if you have chocobo Lure Materia equiped and Wander around on The Chocobo Tracks Near corel Desert, You should Be Able to Manipulate The Harpy For Aqualung.

MageRage
12-06-2007, 04:16 PM
Does Harpy company a chocobo then? Also is it possible to get back into the cliff after you've been there?

Ceidwad
12-06-2007, 04:47 PM
Does Harpy company a chocobo then? Also is it possible to get back into the cliff after you've been there?

It is possible to get back to the cliff, but you may need a green chocobo as I'm not sure you can do the snowboard minigame again to get there.

Hawkeye_1138
12-06-2007, 08:59 PM
You can return to the Great Glacier(either by chocobo or airship)but you cannot climb the cliff because of the barrier and the old man won't let you go past his house.(in disc three after you have visted the Northern Crater in disc 2.)

idk

FF1WithAllThieves
12-06-2007, 09:43 PM
You can easily enough get the buggy back from outside Nibelheim and take it back to the desert to get aqualung, and you don't have to use manipulate. Why you need a fourth complete Enemy Skill Materia, though, is quite beyond me.

Ceidwad
12-07-2007, 03:42 AM
I doubt you can get the buggy back at the point of the game he's at. It disappears after you get the Highwind whenever I play the game.

Hawkeye_1138
12-07-2007, 04:06 AM
I think Dio reclaimed it... and what happened to the Tiny Bronco? That disappears off the face of Gaia after you go to the Northern Crater...that was so pimpin'

RakeArmageddon
12-07-2007, 04:19 PM
Does Harpy company a chocobo then? Also is it possible to get back into the cliff after you've been there?

Yes, Harpy Should Appear With A Chocobo.

Omaklise
01-13-2008, 03:17 PM
Aqualung is used mainly by Harpy's and Jenova-LIFE, which is fought just after Aerith's death in the City of the Ancients.

-NOTE-
The Serpents in the Downed Plane also use Aqualung, but very very rarely.

Trine is a very rare skill. Only 3 enemies use it, and only during ONE battle each. They are:

Materia Keeper (Mt. Nibel)
Stilva (Gaea's Cliff)
Godo (Wutai)

-NOTE-
As the MK and Stilva are fought BEFORE acquiring the Airship and hence, the 4th Enemy Skill Materia, you must save the fight with Godo until after you aquire the Highwind.

Pandora's Box will activate after you kill your first Dragon Zombie. It will only cast it once, (unless your first encounter is with two Dragon Zombies, and you kill them both at the same time, which there is a 0.001% chance of it being cast 2 times simultaneously). You can, however, revert to a previous save and try again.

Laser is learnt from an enemy in the Desert Prison in disc 1 as well as from a Dark / Blue Dragon in the Northern Cave. You must learn Laser at least twice from a Dark / Blue Dragon.

-NOTE-
Dark Dragons also carry Dragon Force. Manipulate is needed for this, but not necessarily for Laser.

One other I might mention that is quite tedious to learn: Magic Breath. The two enemies that use this are:

Parasite (The Crater)
Stilva (Gaea's Cliff)

-NOTE-
Must be learned from Parasite at least once, as Stilva is fought before the Highwind is acquired.

Any others, just ask.

Meltigemini
01-19-2008, 06:08 PM
I thought Pandora's Box was a final attack before dying? Last time I played I just got into a battle with a Zombie Dragon and just made the battle last for quite a while and it used it before dying, try it.

Tsukanda
01-19-2008, 06:32 PM
The Serpents in the Downed Plane also use Aqualung, but very very rarely.
Posted to say this, excluding "very very rarely." I found it quite common.

Regardless, this monster might be your best bet as the rate of encounters in the cargo room is biased in his favour.

Then again I don't remember bothering with harpy.

Meltigemini
01-19-2008, 06:40 PM
I'm pretty sure you can manipulate a Serpent anyway.

ie_greed
01-23-2008, 10:22 AM
i found laser very early in the game i think it was right after sephiroth killed the big snake right outside the great marsh place in there is a little snake like lookin thing i think thats where i got it from as for trine im not completly sure and pandora's box took me forever to learn

Zak
01-23-2008, 02:42 PM
I heard somewhere that Pandora's Box is only ever used once by one Zombie Dragon, and after that no ZD will ever use it again.