late, late, late. I just started playing FF X-2 this month! I must say that it is by far better than X- uno, and the battle system is quite intuitive.

you havent got to chapter 3 yet have you. the battle system is good but the story is nothing in comparison to x

Chapter 2. I agree with you about the story, but the battle system is something I can really appreciate.

yup the magic is still there for you give it another chapter.

Agreeing with you that battle system is fantastic. Probably the only Final Fantasy where I don't mind the random battles. Not sure if I'd say it's better than X, though I definitely enjoy both immensely. Are you doing all the side missions or only a few?

you knw what I hate fighting ixion unless I have the ochre rings

late, late, late. I just started playing FF X-2 this month! I must say that it is by far better than X- uno, and the battle system is quite intuitive.

the battle system will get better soon because as you unlock more dresspheres and grids and their abilities, you'll be able to do more than just repeatedly pressing X button.

i don't know about the story though... i can't say i love it, but i can't say i hate it either. i'm in the middle of good and bad. =/

For a sequel to a game that didn't require a sequel, I'm satisfied with the story. The battle system is alright, but I'm dissapointed that there are no legendary weapons. The only real problem I have is the blatant feminization of final fantasy ("dress"pheres, "garment" grids, the concert, the scene where you had to make Yuna dance to get the Shmooth Shailing). I don't have a problem with main characters being all girls, but I have a problem with SE attributing over-feminine, girly traits to characters who appeared particularly strong in FFX.

Agreeing with you that battle system is fantastic. Probably the only Final Fantasy where I don't mind the random battles. Not sure if I'd say it's better than X, though I definitely enjoy both immensely. Are you doing all the side missions or only a few?

I've been doing a few of the side missions here and there, but I've been fighting all the battles. I've been doing some pretty serious owning. Got abused a bit when I made it to chapter 3, I admit that I was destroyed multiple times by a "Roc" type thing on on mushroom rock, and again when you have to go through the forest near the port city. The monsters that are destroying me were immune to my strategies, which put me in sort of a pickle. I tried to Borrow Time the roc, and by golly, he was immune to all magic :o AND he was petrifying me and it was just sucking because I would 'break' before I could cure the petro. I'm like level 30.

Better than X? :shock:

X-2 is funner to me. I think this stems from me being more of a battler when I play rpgs. That's why I didn't really like Xenosaga. I don't really see why so many people hate X-2. I've never really been a fan of the first X to begin with, personally I even think IX was better. Blitzball though was awesome, and all in all I give X an honest 7.5 if I had to rate it.. but I just prefer X-2, it's got more of a freedom feel.

I love X-2 the best. Yuna and Rikku are my girls. Paine was just a pain in the cock. She was annoying, and her look screamed goth-girl. I thought she was a Cure groupie when I first saw her. She looks like Robert Smith anyway, sans the freakishly poufy hair he has. Yuna is my favorite, not just because o' what she did or does in the game, but her look just screams sexy. Same for Rikku.

If you don't focus too much on the story and just get on allt he little quests, the game is very enjoyable. I loved the Sphere Grids and Dress Sphere Systems alot. The gameplay is very awesome and the New Game Plus feature is quite awesome.

X-2 is a good game, but the storyline did not have too much effort put in. I do like the battle system though. Very interesting.


X-2 is funner to me. I think this stems from me being more of a battler when I play rpgs. That's why I didn't really like Xenosaga. I don't really see why so many people hate X-2. I've never really been a fan of the first X to begin with, personally I even think IX was better. Blitzball though was awesome, and all in all I give X an honest 7.5 if I had to rate it.. but I just prefer X-2, it's got more of a freedom feel.

"Funner" isn't a word. It's more fun. Just thought I should let you know.

People who think X-2 is better than X should have their gaming medals stripped from them and be shot.

I don't have the time for a massive post right now, so I'll just post my main gripe and fill in later with more if it recieves a serious reply.

My biggest complaint is with the sheer tedium of a good chunk of the missions. Be it selling tickets for a show whilst having no way other than a guide of knowing how to make a profit, mindlessly defending a wagon from extremely weak bandits, practising dancing combinations or, even worst of all, pushing God damned musicians towards a lift using the left analog stick (can they not just walk themselves?), FFX-2 has it all. Given that a large amount of the game was based around optional missions, this sort of dull fare is unacceptable. Now yes, before the X-2 apologists pipe up, there was a fair bit of decent optional content. And, to its credit, it was good quality stuff. My complaint is that I have to put up with a lot of really mindless stuff to get access to the better stuff that reveals things about characters and the plot.

Be it selling tickets for a show whilst having no way other than a guide of knowing how to make a profit

I cannot possibly express how happy I am to finally see someone else speaking out against this vile practice.

I cannot possibly express how happy I am to finally see someone else speaking out against this vile practice.

You can always count on me to speak out against bad gameplay. Broken gameplay is an evil greater than communism and political correctness combined.

Besides, it wouldn't be the first time I've attacked FFX-2 for that very reason. I've always been vocal in my criticism of it.

You forgot pimping a man out to horny lonely women. And advertising wtf c'mon.

I'm sorry but X is a tragic lovestory, that I could care less about. I understand your comment about the 'quests' in X-2, and I admit - some of them are quite noobish -- filler at best. You have to realize like I said before, and I will say it again, I'm a battler. I could care less if the story line is horrible. I dont care if the plot is horrible. Heck, I dont even care if they use incorrect English -- but when you create an rpg, and it has no battle system of substance... this in itself is true blasphemy.

I'll just wait for Prak to shatter your world of ignorance and show to you the true meaning of an "rpg", don't leave me hanging Prak:).

Uh oh... now look what you've done.

I'll just let you take this one. I've given up lecturing to people who have no desire to learn.

FFX 2 is by no means better than FFX.

I'm sorry but X is a tragic lovestory, that I could care less about. I understand your comment about the 'quests' in X-2, and I admit - some of them are quite noobish -- filler at best. You have to realize like I said before, and I will say it again, I'm a battler. I could care less if the story line is horrible. I dont care if the plot is horrible. Heck, I dont even care if they use incorrect English -- but when you create an rpg, and it has no battle system of substance... this in itself is true blasphemy.

Generally, gameplay is important to me too. But a good battle system isn't enough. The missions are an equally important part of gameplay in X-2, and since some of those were poor, it detracts from the game's merits.

Furthermore, you haven't explained why you hate X. And you used the saying 'I could care less'. Think about that. What you're actually saying there is that you did care somewhat for it, since you could 'care less'. The phrase you're looking for is 'I couldn't care less'

So, all in all, you think X-2 is better than X and you make no sense. Hmmm.

People who think X-2 is better than X should have their gaming medals stripped from them and be shot.

I don't have the time for a massive post right now, so I'll just post my main gripe and fill in later with more if it recieves a serious reply.

My biggest complaint is with the sheer tedium of a good chunk of the missions. Be it selling tickets for a show whilst having no way other than a guide of knowing how to make a profit, mindlessly defending a wagon from extremely weak bandits, practising dancing combinations or, even worst of all, pushing God damned musicians towards a lift using the left analog stick (can they not just walk themselves?), FFX-2 has it all. Given that a large amount of the game was based around optional missions, this sort of dull fare is unacceptable. Now yes, before the X-2 apologists pipe up, there was a fair bit of decent optional content. And, to its credit, it was good quality stuff. My complaint is that I have to put up with a lot of really mindless stuff to get access to the better stuff that reveals things about characters and the plot.

Totally agreeing with you about having to need a guide for a lot of the game. Anyone wanting to get 100% of things done, especially in one playthrough, should of course consult a guide, but things like having to talk to Rikku before she runs off and stands next to Shinra or having to continually press the X button when Yuna is in the Farplane when there is no indication of this whatsoever on the screen is totally fucking annoying.

BTW, if you're in need of a good guide for FFX-2, the best on IMO (apart from the official) is Split Infinity's one GameFAQs.com (http://www.gamefaqs.com).

I have the official guide actually Lukey. I have no problem with the principle of having a strategy guide, but nothing in the game should be unsolvable without a guide. Even if it's really difficult to find out, as long as it's possible I won't mind. But missions like that ticket selling one are just a waste of time.

I happen to like FFX-2, but yes, there is ridiculous stuff that is completely unsolvable without a guide, and no, I don't like it either.

The same definitely can't be said about the Kingdom Hearts series, particularly Kingdom Hearts II. It was very good about that. Thanks to the detailed journal, I'd say everything was completely discoverable without a guide for full completion with perhaps one exception. A guide was helpful, but certainly not needed.

Generally, gameplay is important to me too. But a good battle system isn't enough. The missions are an equally important part of gameplay in X-2, and since some of those were poor, it detracts from the game's merits.

Furthermore, you haven't explained why you hate X. And you used the saying 'I could care less'. Think about that. What you're actually saying there is that you did care somewhat for it, since you could 'care less'. The phrase you're looking for is 'I couldn't care less'

So, all in all, you think X-2 is better than X and you make no sense. Hmmm.

You know what I meant. I guess I should be a bit more clear as to why I don't like X-1 as much as I do X-2. It's a personal preference.. It's a red apple, green apple situation. I like green, but thats beside the point, both are good. I didn't like X as much as I do X-2 because X got a bit boring to me. I was just coming away from the old school playstation 1 rpgs, and X was just... average. X-2 is a bit clumsy at times, but still has my attention, always looking for new dress spheres, mastering abilities etc.

Edit : X-1= red apple || X-2 = yellow apple.;-)

No, I can understand totally why some people might like X-2 better than X. Many people have issues in particular with FFX's extreme feeling of linearity, whereas with X-2, you're tossed in control of the airship almost right away and offered the option to go and do whatever you want. Not to mention that you have a lot of options throughout the game. And if you prefer Yuna to Tidus as a protagonist, that might be another reason to like X-2 better.

Agent, if you want to debate it, I've shown before that FFX isn't as linear as some people say. There's nearly always something else to do in terms of side stuff if you're getting bored, even if you can't always walk around freely to any destination in Spira. Obviously FFX-2 is less linear, but that's a given really and I think we've had the debate before about the optional stuff/lack of significant main plot on X-2.

The only thing that really bugged me about FFX was the lack of access to certain towns at certain points. It annoyed me that you couldn't get into Bevelle for nearly the whole game, for example. And of course, the Dark Aeons 'guarding' certain places in the last 5 or so % of the game.

That's a relatively small flaw, though.