Type: Gamerip
Ripper: OrangeC
Encoded: MP3 320KBPS
Tracks: 54
Source: PS3 AV Out
Rip Type: Line In

Music Compsed By: John Debney and Additional Music by kevin kaska


Description
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Well here it is the complete gamerip of LAIR totalling up to almost 2 hours of score!! by john debney.

Now im not sure about the whole 8 hour thing but i have scoured throughout the game and this is all what i could rip which seems pretty enough for a game score.

Anyway there are some memorianle tracks like The mokai themes and firestorm.

This took me a lot of work to rip and i expect you appreciate all my hardwork by saying thanks and bumping this topic so others can see.

Bye!

Download link
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http://www.filefactory.com/file/e78487/

Orange you are my hero!

Or at least you will be in about... 3 hours, after I download this thing. :-D

Thanks alot! This is truly awesome.

Thanks alot for this OrangeC. :)

You are my king - best score of the year !

If possible can someone upload this to mediafire or rapidshare. i keep getting the no download slots message.

I'm downloading and I thank you so much. This is the best score ever made for a videogame. Even better than "Outcast" and "Medal of Honor".

Thanx a lot for your hard work ...

Direx

Grabbing now, Thanks OC

OrangeC, thank you for this, it must've been murder.
Because it's such a massive undertaking and you've worked so hard on it, I feel horrid for criticising, but I must take issue with...

The volume, specifically, the horrific clipping and distortion that makes most of the louder pieces unlistenable... I know it's difficult to get this right when you're doing a Line rip, but in places, this is pretty bad. I'm sorry, mate.

The Prologue, in particular, near its conclusion, crackles with clipping - please see the attached PNG which shows that portion of the Prologue, open in an audio editor.

Please don't think I'm an arse for saying this - I really, REALLY appreciate the work, as I'm sure does everybody else, but your recording level was too high, far, far too high. Most soundcards flatten out dynamics in the upper ten percent of their range as well (God knows why) meaning, even where the sound isn't clipped, the dynamics will be shot to hell...

If you're doing a line rip, the best thing you can do is find the LOUDEST part of the audio you're going to be recording, and record it - fiddle with the recording level until the loudest part touches -3db on your recording monitor. Record the whole thing, and normalise (the whole lot, not on a track by track basis - normalise the entire recording project at once) using software. This means you get to keep as much of the dynamic range as possible, you don't tax your soundcard, and the normalising means the MP3s play at a uniform volume and you don't have people complaining that they're too quiet... ;)

I'm sorry to be so critical, but Lair is f*�$(&ing fantastic, and it isn't quite at its best here...

Best,
Danny

PS... Just listening to a few tracks at Random, some seem to finish a couple of seconds before the music. See 54-Training.

I assume this is only version 1.0 which will be refined later on.

Sorry guys this is the best i can do

BTW next rip is warhawk.

niiice keep up the good work man. Appreciate it.

I'm looking forward to the warhawk as well!

OMG.... Thanks Orange, I've been waiting for weeks to listen to the gamerip for LAIR. Thank you so much.

Nvm orange C i got it. Thx this is really awesome keep up the good work man!

For people who still don't know John Debney, he is the one who scored for Cutthroat Island. Crappy movie for some, but it had by far the best adventure score ever made. The Oscar nominated music to Passion of the Christ is another masterpiece, or who could forget the beautiful Dragonfly theme?
btw how did you manage to record it without the background sound?

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For people who still don't know John Debney, he is the one who scored for Cutthroat Island. Crappy movie for some, but it had by far the best adventure score ever made. The Oscar nominated music to Passion of the Christ is another masterpiece, or who could forget the beautiful Dragonfly theme?
btw how did you manage to record it without the background sound?


There is a feature on the disc called concert hall which lets you listen to the music in its entirety as you beat the game.

there are four tracks on the itunes release that don�t appear in the complete game score.
"rohn theme"
"mokai theme"
"diviner theme" (best track of the entire score)
"civilisation theme" this one is the training track, but 1000 times better than the games version.

Well you can still get both version of the soundtrack like I did.

i combined the two versions for a 90mins 36 track ONE-HELL-OF-A-LISTENING EXPERIENCE.no boring moments, no anoying crap like the first two lighthouse tracks and a great mix a action and emotion.now it can rival cutthroat island.

Thanks alot for the upload =)

Just like "hater" I did a remix of the two sources (the official Album and the game rip). It's 113 minutes long and contains some of the missing tracks from the I-Tunes Release.
I also changed the game version of the "darkness theme", becuse the album version is a lot better this way. The Album contains 18 tracks. Some of them are really long ("The Destruction Of Mokai City" goes about 15 minutes), cause I like to listen epic music in an epic organic style.

If anyone is interested, I could upload tomorrow, I think ...

Direx

Please do, it would make for an awesome listenign experience.

I am not experiencing any crackling of any kind from normalization poking past the DB peaks. In fact, these are nothing short of amazing, although a few are cut short (the training, as mentioned) before the music actually finishes. (Edit; I checked out prologue and I can scarcely hear it [crackling]... not enough to completely detract from the piece, though.)

All in all, a job well done, and a great soundtrack I merrily have added to my enormous collection.


If anyone is interested, I could upload tomorrow, I think ...

Please do!

Requested by me as well.

It still does though. ;) Just take a look at the waveform - it's crushed to hell.
Still a beautiful job though and the very best way to enjoy one of the finest scores - game or otherwise - ever composed. :)

Just a followup - I know you'll think I'm a picky bastard... I'm sorry, I am, I admit it...

The ORIGINAL ITUNES RELEASE is worse, far worse, in terms of dynamics compression... Whoever recorded this thing at Abbey Road should hang their heads in shame, or whoever mastered it...

OrangeC - did you record this and then normalise, or did you encode the MP3s directly from what you recorded at your line in? (Because iTunes release is crap in EXACTLY the same places yours is, leading me to think that your rip is in fact superb, but the music was mastered badly...?)

How can you measure dynamic compression?

You can't really, physically... But you can usually spot it if you look at the waveform in an audio editor. Basically everything is maxed out to create the artificial illusion of extra volume. It can help make a vocal line sound clearer above an instrumental. It's a style of audio mastering that does pretty well for electronica/pop music, but it's really REALLY awful (and inappropriate) when applied to orchestral recordings... it's the sign of a recording engineer who doesn't have experience with symphonic recording, or is doing a crappy mastering job. There are some bloody awful orchestral recordings out there, and some utterly beautiful ones.

An orchestral recording should sound like an orchestra playing in a concert hall. It should have definition and clarity. Most recordings being made nowadays (particularly in film and western game music) are all over-processed or badly produced...

Dynamic compression at its simplest makes the quiet bits louder. (It also makes the loud bits quieter, evening it out.)

It can also happen (unintentionally) in digital recording - it depends on the card.

If you feed a signal that is too loud to be represented digitally, the sound card has two choices. It can either flatten off the range artificially (so the signal can be represented - this manifests itself in a kind-of muddy sound during particularly loud moments) or it doesn't do anything, and you get alarming clicking noises.

These are pretty good articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipping_(audio) (see Digital Clipping)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war - This is why they do it...

Sorry for hijacking this thread.

Half-way through listening to Lair and GREAT SCORE!

I did some more detailed listening and...

Some of the clicks are not from recording. They're from windows XP. You are either moving through folders or doing stuff and there are series of Windows clicks in the backgrounds of several pieces.

Other then that, I am loving what I hear.

Thanks, that helped alot!

yep, those were from XP, when i started recording i had it set to line in only, so the recording card can record what is coming through the cable, but thyen it somehow got ticked to stereo mix which records all sounds from the computer.

But then i fixed it at the end.

Here is the link for the "selfmade album" of LAIR:

Thread 45373

Have fun ...

Direx

Can�t wait to listen to this songs, thanks!

Amazing rip! Thanks for it!
I love this soundtrack. I also really enjoy the game. Can't imagine why it got so many bad reviews.

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Thanks for reminding us on what we already know...

You'll laugh at me, but I hate games (mainly because I'm completely incompetent at playing them, however) so I haven't the faintest idea how Lair functions as a gaming experience. But as you say, as a musical experience it's absolutely incredible, so at least it served a purpose. :)

Orange you are a god!

Great job Orance.Thanks a lot.

Reupload please because it keeps saying the server is under maintenance.

Can someone reupload this??

Reupload plz.

Thread 38084

I have this uploaded in my thread here.

Is this the complete version? I don't think it's available now... man, why didn't I visit this thread earlier... possibly because I only found today that there were many other themes not included in the first version of the OST I downloaded? Sounds right.

Could ANYONE please upload this complete version? I beg you...!

I listened to the Lair Gamerip Soundtrack.

Can anyone confirm if it contains ALL the songs from the game cause it seems that the 'Diviners Theme'-tune and 'Civilization Theme'-tune from the iTunes release are missing on the full gamerip...

THX THX THX THX THX =DDDDDDDDDDDDD

Awesome.

Hi, sorry to bump this thread from so long ago.
Was googling trying to find Rohn's theme but Instrumental, this set seems to have it in it but the link has been removed on the site (since it's 2 years old :P)

It's just to see if anyone still has the files, and if you could email them to me at [email protected]

Thanks.

links are all dead. can someone please reupload?

I hate to be a cheeky git, but could I possibly add my voice to the chorus crying out for a reupload? I had a rather nasty "Seagate Can S**k My C**k" related IT problem over Christmas and this was one of the many casualties... Any kind folk who have this sitting around on their (hopefully still working, unlike mine) hard disc and fancy doing a biiiiig favour for a lot of grateful people?

Cheers :)

DANNY!! im surprised by your sudden outburst, anyway i don't have this anymore.

I have but only the iTunes release.

Dante�s Inferno is the new Lair.

Hi, I'm new to posting, but I saw that there were several requests so I've re-upped this gamerip at 320Kbps:

http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1WISMG77/Lair_Gamerip_.zip.001
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/8OFOGXKR/Lair_Gamerip_.zip.002


Password: shrine

Hi, I'm new to posting, but I saw that there were several requests so I've re-upped this gamerip at 320Kbps:

http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1WISMG77/Lair_Gamerip_.zip.001
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/8OFOGXKR/Lair_Gamerip_.zip.002


Password: shrine

Can you re-upload this onto megaupload, rapidshare, or mediafire?

Thanks in advance.

Thanks alot for this OrangeC.

Can you re-upload this onto megaupload, rapidshare, or mediafire?

Thanks in advance.

Um... the Megaupload is still active...

please re-upload

please re-upload

I'm on to it.

NEW LINKS (Mediafire, Two Parts, No Passwords)


Part 1: Lair.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?14omb85cc5u5ekt)
Part 2: Lair.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?yiyiyyga6yz5ohc)



Anyone let me know in case there's any forum procedure here I'm overlooking.

thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanxxxxxx a lot!!! Awesome work!

Re uplaud pls !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =(

NEW LINKS (Mediafire, Two Parts, No Passwords)


Part 1: Lair.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?14omb85cc5u5ekt)
Part 2: Lair.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?yiyiyyga6yz5ohc)



Anyone let me know in case there's any forum procedure here I'm overlooking.

Thanks for keeping these up. I was only just introduced to the score today. I am not a gamer, but I am one that appreciates a great film and game score score!