Raiden
04-09-2002, 10:01 PM
I was discussin with a friend (not a member here) weither Red was a cat. Being a cat person myslef (mainly becuase of my upbringing), I personly felt he was a cat, where as my friend felt he was a dog. Here's why I think he's a cat:

Head
Look at my avatar. You'll see it curves in at the mouth. Now look at a cat's head. You'll see it also curves in at the mouth

Tail
Cat's use there tail to show there mood, where as dogs swish there tail basically 24/7. Red's tail wasn't swishing 24/7 like a dogs. It showed his mood. When he was surprised/anrgy, it went straight etc.

Paws
Ever looked at a cat's paw, or a picture of a lions paw? Now look at Reds. Again, we see a match.

Body
Red has the sleak body, much like that of a cat.

And what about his victory dance? I must admit it's been a while since I played FF7, but unless I'm mistaken, Red washes himself. How? He licks a paw, and rubs it around his head, like cats do. I don't think Dog's wash themselves, otherwise there owners won't need to give them baths!

Sure, he may howl but then this is a fantasy game, so why not have a talking, howling cat/lion-like creature?

Hell_Jau
04-09-2002, 10:26 PM
dunno.....Red XIII was kind of a dog to me....maybe that's why a called him 'Houndawg' in the game...hehe

PuRiKaH
04-09-2002, 10:26 PM
There have been interbreeds of Lions and Tigers (called Ligons, naturally) for a long time. They look almost exactly like Red XIII (without the anime aspect).

Nanaki XIII
04-10-2002, 12:50 AM
His victory dance he stands on his hind legs and howls. Cats dont stand on their hind legs I dont think.

Anyways hes a dog. His nose is big like a dog and he is big like one, and ALL CATS HAVE WHISKERS. He doesnt.

Surprentis
04-10-2002, 12:53 AM
hes neither hes a lion or tiger....

Nanaki XIII
04-10-2002, 01:00 AM
Lions and Tigers are cats I hope you know. So your vote is cat?

TimeMatrix
04-10-2002, 02:48 AM
Well I would have to say he is a cat cuz' they way his body and face are... he kinda reminds me of a Panther/Tiger mix, he sure looks cool...

Surprentis
04-10-2002, 03:07 AM
oh yeah i forgot that lions and tigers are considerd cat...i was only thinking house cat lol

Kie
04-10-2002, 11:38 AM
He's obviously a cat. Dogs don't have those huge whiskers:D

PuRiKaH
04-10-2002, 05:05 PM
I think its time i made the point that its a game. Vampire, Moogles and talking cats dont exist in real life but their in final fantasy. RED XIII is made up.

Randomly
04-10-2002, 07:04 PM
I'd think if anything he's a wolf like creature, he howls which cats cannot do, and yet he roars which wolves cannot. His tail is long (it also has a flame at the end of it) more like a feline tail. his paws however are not overly large like a big cats would be and he really doesnt use then almost like hands (apart from when he crosses them) if he was feline I would expect to use them for slashing as a usual attack. he also pants when hot and uses his nose to sniff things, which is a canine thing.Possibly more canine though as I normally desrcibe him as a fire wolf. I think he's both, and neither. He's a fantasy creature like a moonba or moogle and both of those while resembling some things in an abstract way, are neither.

Raiden
04-10-2002, 10:04 PM
Hmm. Interesting points going so far.

This is a fantasy game, so it could have a cat that howls.

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One thing Nanaki XIII - cats can and will stand in there hind legs. If my cat hears a strange noise, she'll rise herself by standing on her hind legs to get a better look. Her paws even "dangle" the same way Red's does. She also does the same if you dangle food abover her head (except she uses her paws to grab the food). I don't supose a lion or a tiger does that though.

Koenma
04-10-2002, 10:28 PM
Neither. Simple as that. He even stated he was an unexplained type of species, and it's never revealed. Nice of you to try and reason though.

Raiden
04-10-2002, 10:41 PM
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God Purikah! We do realise it's a game, but isn't the point of the FF7 forum to talk about aspects of the game FF7? If you ain't gona discuss it in a reasonable manner like the rest of us have, then what's the point of comming to this forum?

I supose though it's really first impression. When I first saw him, I thought of a cat.

Nanaki XIII
04-11-2002, 01:08 AM
Thanks for pointing out the cat information Raiden. I do not have a cat so I do not know. I probably think he looks like a dog because I like dogs better, but he is more like a panther or wolf, (arent those cat and dogs?) than regular dog. But when did you see whiskers on him Cloud?

Web
04-11-2002, 04:24 AM
I'd like to think its a cat. Although maybe its both. ^_~

Neo Xzhan
04-11-2002, 09:38 AM
I think Nanaki (Red XIII is the name given by Hojo) is more a kind of lion.

PuRiKaH
04-11-2002, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Raiden
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God Purikah! We do realise it's a game, but isn't the point of the FF7 forum to talk about aspects of the game FF7? If you ain't gona discuss it in a reasonable manner like the rest of us have, then what's the point of comming to this forum?

I supose though it's really first impression. When I first saw him, I thought of a cat.

My point is that hes not real, hes completely made up so you cant classify him. And dont get wound up. bitching at someone over the net is just lame.

seifer_69_69
04-11-2002, 04:24 PM
:cool: I vote cat but I named it Hunter:D

Raiden
04-11-2002, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Purikah


My point is that hes not real, hes completely made up so you cant classify him. And dont get wound up. bitching at someone over the net is just lame.

Whatever!
Haven't you ever heard of good, harmless fun? That's wat I clasify this as!

Surprentis
04-11-2002, 11:41 PM
*sigh* u children go type fight somewere else!

Meph
04-11-2002, 11:45 PM
donkey. Red is a rare type of donkey. just take my word for it, i have no proof to back up my claim

Riana
04-12-2002, 12:46 PM
I was pretty much convinced that he was a dog, cuz of the fact that he seemed to have the figure.

Also when he arrived at 'Cost Del Sol' he said something about his nose drying up cuz of the heat. I'm pretty sure only dog's noses are usually wet, not cats. Remember those kids kicking around the ball? I had Cloud kick it once and it hit Red XIII! Then he barked at Cloud. Then there was the time when he howled at Cosmo Canyon ( I won't say why, for those who haven't got that far).
That's my only evidence.

Originally posted by The_Flaming_Amarant


Red is a rare type of donkey.

Say what?:confused:

Angel Aeris
04-17-2002, 03:02 PM
His face and tail's more like cats have, but he acts more like a dog. he howls, stands quit well on two feet.
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His kids or grankids or whatever looked more like cute little kitties. Still, I think he's more like doq.

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
04-17-2002, 07:10 PM
I think Red is a dog because - his face looks like a dog's (because my dog's face has the same shape as Red's), also he can stand on his hind legs well alot like a dog, his nose dries up like dogs noses do. He howls, barks and growls like a dog. Also who said that dogs tails never stop waging because my dog's tail stop waging occsionally.


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He could be a Dog-Cat cross but thats not likely.

dr.chaos
04-17-2002, 08:18 PM
For gods sake hes a CAT!!!! whiskers,lion tail,cat agility its all there! :p

PuRiKaH
04-17-2002, 08:30 PM
Hes a dog wearing a cat suit :D He has the structure of a dog, but otherwise he looks like a cat.

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
04-18-2002, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by dr.chaos
For gods sake hes a CAT!!!! whiskers,lion tail,cat agility its all there! :p


Dogs have whiskers as well.

Prince Lefty
04-18-2002, 07:37 PM
I thought it was obvious that he was a lion? (Or a tiger), Which is a cat, so he's of the cat species. I never even thought about him being a dog. He's a cat, just think about it, he's just not your ordinary cat.

dr.chaos
04-19-2002, 05:31 PM
dogs have whiskers too. .........I knew that!!...uhhh...i meant cat whiskers!

the holy dragon
04-19-2002, 07:20 PM
hes a wolfion! god people dont you have any imagination?

(i liked the donkey idea. by the way ho said that?)

he has the possitive of both and the negative of neither

CloudStrife765
05-30-2013, 08:43 PM
My Shiba has that same Agility

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I would have to say dog, Due to the fact that many of his limit breaks include howling, and if you listen closely, In Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, during the fight agaist Bahamut SIN, he yelps like dog. But then again, he also has a cat's tail, as well as the fact that he does roar. What I think is, he might a hybrid of a Wolf and Lion. Although it's not likely, it's possible.

Darth Revan
05-31-2013, 04:27 AM
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