What character(s) would you like to see in Super Smash Bros. Brawl?

For updated information on Super Smash Bros. Brawl, visit:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.php.

Nintendo needs to add Wolf O'Donnell to Smash Bros. Brawl! He looks much better than Fox McCloud.:-D

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/ConstantM$nemonic/DP-Hikari.png

We all ready have Pokemon Trainer

Personally, I want Krystal, Sonic and Dedede.

It's not really a new character... more like an outfit or something.

But I would really like to see the Wind Waker version of Link make it into the game.

It's not really a new character... more like an outfit or something.

But I would really like to see the Wind Waker version of Link make it into the game.

Wind Waker Link IS in Brawl. He's replacing Young Link.

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Wind Waker Link IS in Brawl. He's replacing Young Link.

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Never saw a pic of WW Link in Brawl. They always show Link in his Twilight Princess version.

We all ready have Pokemon Trainer

Yes, a no-name. Give me Ash (cause duh) or Hikari (cause current). I'm not really trying to beat a dead horse here, I just like posting pics of Dawn and wish that they could have made with an actual trainer from the Anime :( There might be legal issues, I dunno, but they made Yellow so I wouldn't think so.

I could just be a total idiot. That is usually the case.

Yes, a no-name. Give me Ash (cause duh) or Hikari (cause current). I'm not really trying to beat a dead horse here, I just like posting pics of Dawn and wish that they could have made with an actual trainer from the Anime :( There might be legal issues, I dunno, but they made Yellow so I wouldn't think so.

I could just be a total idiot. That is usually the case.

Sakurai said that noting that has to do with anime will be in the game so the pokemon anime will lnot be involved in the game.

Sakurai said that noting that has to do with anime will be in the game so the pokemon anime will lnot be involved in the game.

:(

There's only one person they need to add and I've wanted this since the dawn of time when the first SSB game came out...



Nuff said.

I think Kid Icarus is due for a comeback. Wii-mote arrow-shooting angel needed. Stat!

He be in it, Mark. He be in it.

I hope you're right, Mike. *sighs*

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pit.html

WOULD I LIE TO YOU?!?!?

Pit will own hard, but I horror at Diddy being in there. Classic Andross as an assist almost made my veins clog up with pure nostalgia.

Anyway, what do you guys think of Meta Knight's role in the storyline? Villain or shipjacked by the Emissary?

Hijacked Halberd I'm guessing. This claim made solely from his role in the Kirby games where his sole reason for fighting you is to make Kirby stronger. Can't really imagine him as a villain.

He was a villian in Kirby Super Star, though.

I have a strange character sugestion: Deathborn from F-Zero GX. They don't have enough characters from this series, just one, Captain Falcon. While everyone thinks that Black Shadow (Captain Falcons main enemy) should be in the game, if you've ever played F-Zero GX you'd know that he was a complete wimp in comparison to Deathborn.

Picture of Deathborn:
(http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathborn6mgom0.png)

Deathborn's bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_F-Zero_characters_(A-H)#Deathborn)

Yeah, I think he would be way better then Black Shadow, that is if either of them have a chance of getting in.

Unrelated: Mogman@ your signature obviously implies that you dislike something about GamingForce. What could be so wrong with it? I've gotten a lot of great music from there that I couldn't find elsewhere. I'm just curious to know.

Lol Homer Simpson crushes ppl FTW

I know they are not from nintendo's own roster of game characters, but I would like to see Billy and Jimmy Lee from Double Dragon show up to kick some ass, just like the good old days on my Nes! If they can put snake in Smash Brothers, why not the Double Dragons?

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/music/music12.html

When I first heard of this update I was pretty sceptical. After listening to it I can say it's one catchy song and I look forward to hearing it in game.

Huge update today

Sonic has been confirmed with videos and pictures.

Bio with pictures and a video if you scroll down. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/sonic.html)

Nintendo Conference Fall 2007 Movie (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/index.php)

I was going to post the same thing. Fanboys, rejoice!!!

Sonic and Mario in co-op mode?
Hell yeah.

Sonic and Mario in co-op mode?
Hell yeah.

That is wrong.. So wrong..

Earthworm Jim would be a... groovy addition to the character roster in SSB:B. A little wackyness is always good.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/music/music12.html

When I first heard of this update I was pretty sceptical. After listening to it I can say it's one catchy song and I look forward to hearing it in game.

Ewww! They just should've used the DS version of that song (just a bit faster). Oh, and Ashley herself should be a playable character in SSBB, because she's awesome.

Also, yay for Sonic. Who didn't saw it coming, though?

THEY SHOULD HAVE KNUCKLES AND TAILS AND AMY ROSE AND SALLY AND BUNNY AND DOCTOR EGGMAN AND DOCTOR ROBOTNIK TOO!!!

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DON'T FORGET NiGHTS AND REALA AND WIZEMAN!!!!

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tbh though only other third party character i'd really care about is megaman

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If they put in Mega Man, it better be the original version, and not the gay spinoffs like Zero, ZX, or Battle Network.
Maybe as alternate costumes, but I want old school Mega Man.

SSBB's American release has been delayed to February 10th, guys.

I'm torn between wanting to kill myself because the gameplay videos of the demo look so good and why can't I be playing that right now and wanting to kill myself because of the dealy.

Yesterday's update is neat. Snapshots! They can be saved to SD cards so hopefully this means the snapshots taken can be put on our PCs ^_^. If we can do this we'll be able to make our own personalized wallpapers, sigs, avatars etc. without any hassle at all. But only if we can put the snapshots on our computers (fingers crossed).

Also, my guess is that the blurred button will be an option to add stickers and maybe even trophies to the snapshots.

You guys might wanna check this out too http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826602p1.html
The whole article makes me sad because I haven't played it yet but it is still awesome.

oh oh and watch the videos too! They are some of the best I've seen even if they're quality isn't super great. All of the videos made me giggle and smile like a goof; even the character selection screen!

Just watched some of the new gameplay videos. The Norfrair stage keeps up the traditional 'rising-liquid hazard Metroid' theme that the series has going. Sonic's final smash looks quite interesting, flying around and crashing into opponents as Super Sonic is pretty awesome. Speaking of awesome - Advance Wars AT.

I am copypasting this from one of my posts at another forum I go to

Okay, I watched the character select video on IGN again and counted the number of blank spots for characters. Sonic, Bowser and a Random character select button were on the bottom. Above them were two rows of 6. I guessed that the bottom three mentioned earlier would move to fit in another three when unlocked which would make 17 characters in the rows all up.

To the side of the already counted rows are two 2 x 6 character slot columns which makes 24 all up. 24 + 17 = 41.

My guess is that Brawl will have 41 characters.

I can't believe they had to delay brawl for 2 months, maybe they are just building up suspense.

I haven't really looked at any of the updates for a while because by the time february comes around, if you look at every update you'll know so much of the game before playing it and to me it would take away the fun of not knowing what might happen next.

I hope they are adding new characters. Then the delay would turn for good

I think that we all must take into consideration that Nintendo (probably) won't display the unlockable characters for Smash Bros. Brawl beacuse it defeats the purpose of having those characters unlockable. [In other words, if they show all the characters in Brawl, there would not be any need for unlockable characters (which there are)]. Most likely, the characters posted on the site are the stock characters for the game.

Hmmm.
Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't Luigi be somewhere on that site by now? He could very well be one of the unlockable characters...

I think that we all must take into consideration that Nintendo (probably) won't display the unlockable characters for Smash Bros.

Well, even if they don't do that, they have shown a lot of new characters already . And if all those are people you start with (maybe), I would sure like to see who they put as unlockable!

I am most concerned about the new Golden Hammer weapon.
Now my pussy item using friends stand a chance.

The delay sucks butt. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have done it unless they really needed to though because normally you'd want a game like that out for the holiday season if possible.

Aw well. More time to play GGXX I guess.

I dunno how many of you have seen this (either at this link or at Smash boards) but here you go:
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/ZekeThePlumber/the-smash-dojo-site-urls-show-something-interesting-it-s-a-secret-to-everybody--48504.phtml

A couple of the comments are quite interesting too:

Another notable thing, from what I hear Sakurai is friends with Kojima and Inafune (the creator of Megaman), so if anything I'd say we might be leaning towards Megaman.

Then again, this could just be the tip of the iceberg since Sakurai has never revealed unlockable characters before prior to releasing any of the smash bros. games.

I'm not sure, but that might mean there will be more than 3 third party characters in Brawl.

Looks interesting. Actually based on what I've read thus far there's still even more room for speculation. #13 is missing and the person that posted in that forum said that this could leave room for the Mr. Game & Watch series, but I have my own theory: Kingdom Hearts series. I know this sounds like a bit of a long shot but let's think about this.

It's no doubt that Sora would fit perfectly into Brawl with a move-set and final smash practically already made for him and speculation of this sort has already been made considering that Yoko Shimamura will be composing some music for this game and none of it has been featured on the Smash Bros. Dojo site as of yet.

As I've said before I know this sounds like a long shot but still there's always a possibility :D .

Looks interesting. Actually based on what I've read thus far there's still even more room for speculation. #13 is missing and the person that posted in that forum said that this could leave room for the Mr. Game & Watch series, but I have my own theory: Kingdom Hearts series. I know this sounds like a bit of a long shot but let's think about this.

It's no doubt that Sora would fit perfectly into Brawl with a move-set and final smash practically already made for him and speculation of this sort has already been made considering that Yoko Shimamura will be composing some music for this game and none of it has been featured on the Smash Bros. Dojo site as of yet.

As I've said before I know this sounds like a long shot but still there's always a possibility :D .

Excluding world 01 since it isn't technically a series, we look at 2 through 12 and 14 and note that each of these series are representative of a veteran character from Melee.
#13 is a veteran slot.

Still though, Sora seems very unlikely to be in Brawl to me (and by unlikely I mean he's probably got a 1/1,000,000 chance). Characters in Smash Bros. games need to have at least some sort of connection to Nintendo. I know there is Chain of Memories on GBA but I doubt a shitty spinoff game would warrant Sora a slot in Brawl.

I could be wrong though.

I already hate Brawl because they canned Jigglypuff. Screw you, Sonic. Screw you.

I'd love to see a Guilty Gear character be in Brawl, but it would probably never happen since the only GG Nintendo release was that DS game.

Wait, is that confirmed? No Jiggles?

That's a shame. Jigglypuff was a great character in Smash. A lot of morons underestimated it and could get slaughtered. It was never top tier obviously but it's just so hilarious to watch someone get clobbered by a skilled Jigglypuff player.

Bah. Anyway you're wrong thinginthetub, GGXX just came out for Wii. I'm fairly certain they won't put one in the game though as I think they are leaning towards more widely-recognized characters.

I am glad you like Guilty Gear though. I am just getting interested in it myself. And also, I agree, fuck Sonic. I didn't really want him in the game. I hope he sucks, but for some reason I have a feeling they are going to make him really powerful. I mean he will obviously be top notch fast so if he has good smashes he could wind up being as hard to deal with as Fox. =/

Wait, is that confirmed? No Jiggles?

That's a shame. Jigglypuff was a great character in Smash. A lot of morons underestimated it and could get slaughtered. It was never top tier obviously but it's just so hilarious to watch someone get clobbered by a skilled Jigglypuff player.
As far as I know Jigglypuff has not been removed from Brawl. There is a big chance Jigglypuff WILL be in Brawl ever since it was announced that any characters in the first two Smash games will be in Brawl (not sure if this applies to Luigi but I hope it does).

And Pictochat (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage15.html) has just been announced as a stage in Brawl.

Nintendo DS has World 21. It seems that World 22+, if they exist, would be systems or stuff like that. So it seems like there's only World 19 left since 13 is pretty obviously Game and Watch, and my guess its Pikmin and somebody like Captain Olimar is in the game.

Also TK just so you know I'm probably going to only play as Sonic.

As far as I know Jigglypuff has not been removed from Brawl. There is a big chance Jigglypuff WILL be in Brawl ever since it was announced that any characters in the first two Smash games will be in Brawl (not sure if this applies to Luigi but I hope it does).

Well good.

What the hell were you getting me all worked up for there tub!

Now that I think of it, on the off chance that NiGHTS somehow gets in, I'd probably use it over Sonic. I know it's not going to happen but I think I enjoyed NiGHTS much more than most Sonic games, though I wouldn't go as far to say I enjoyed it over Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Knuckles.

Is anyone else bummed that Little Mac won't be playable? I mean, it's awesome to see him as an Assist Trophy, but wouldn't it be great to actually play as him?

Everybody should watch the new videos showing off Adventure Mode on Gametrailers right now.
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/2686.html

Adventure Mode looks really well done imo and single player could be a huge selling point in Brawl .

Is anyone else bummed that Little Mac won't be playable? I mean, it's awesome to see him as an Assist Trophy, but wouldn't it be great to actually play as him?

I saw that and was stoked that he's playable, but then I saw that he's just an Assist Trophy, which pissed me off.

If they're bringing Pit back, they need to bring back Little Mac too. Show the kiddies how old-school is done.

Is anyone else bummed that Little Mac won't be playable? I mean, it's awesome to see him as an Assist Trophy, but wouldn't it be great to actually play as him?

Indeed. I thought it would of been nice to give the competition a One-Two-Three punch occassionally. Though, I think a problem would reside herein, too. Little Mac's moveset might be pretty limited.


Adventure Mode looks really well done imo and single player could be a huge selling point in Brawl .

Ha-ha! Take that, X-Play.

Okay. If any Kirby fans are here, get ready to prepare for a triple threat. First it was Kirby, then it was Meta Knight. Now, long live the king, as Dream Land's Ruler and "tyrant", King Dedede is now added to the playable roster.

Introduction to King Dedede's playable Brawl debut announced yesterday. (Thursday Oct. 25)

King Dedede's Special Moves announced just today. (Friday Oct. 26).

See King Dedede's Profile
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/kingdedede.html

Stage Builder now

Yes I've heard, Awesome! It's too bad that we won't be able to keep the stages that Nintendo users submit. Maybe it would be good of Nintendo to have a poll every month or so where we can choose which user-made stage is the best of that month and the one with the most votes is made into a download so that we can keep it forever. 12 new stages a year!

Good idea? Bad idea?

I'd rather be able to keep the daily map (AND have it be editable?). I see no reason not to allow that.

but this is seriously the best update since the announcement trailer where metaknight was revealed.

I used to make levels in Jetpack.

Okay. If any Kirby fans are here, get ready to prepare for a triple threat. First it was Kirby, then it was Meta Knight. Now, long live the king, as Dream Land's Ruler and "tyrant", King Dedede is now added to the playable roster.

Introduction to King Dedede's playable Brawl debut announced yesterday. (Thursday Oct. 25)

King Dedede's Special Moves announced just today. (Friday Oct. 26).

See King Dedede's Profile
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/kingdedede.html

This is actually really exciting for me. I was not expecting any more Kirby characters and if there were going to be any Dedede is exactly what I wanted.

Brawl is looking better and better.


I used to make levels in Jetpack.

For level making, Jetpack was inferior to Hubie.

i made this awesome level it was top class one of the best even better than the in game ones man i should go get my dos up and do that man but man i lost my floppy discs with the jetpack game on it and man i don't have a floppy drive for this computer man oh man oh man

I'm sure it's abandonware now. You can probably just download it.

too lazy

http://www.abandonia.com/games/222/download/Jetpack.htm

Classic mode announced today.

Two quick updates to just quickly get it off of my chest.
The quick links are below each update.

Wednesday, Oct. 31:
A new Ice Climbers stage: The Summit has been reveiled.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage16.html

Today (Thursday Nov. 1):
Meta Knight's Final Smash has now been announced and named.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/metaknight.html

If anyone should make an appearance in the game is the KING OF BOOS!

Boos to that idea. Kidding. :)

You know what would be an interesting old-school addition to this game is Rocket Knight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Knight_Adventures) From Rocket Knight adventures. I already know that they have a knight (meta) but this one would have more ranged attacks and probably be a little faster too.

I really doubt they are going to use obscure characters from non-Nintendo games. If they use characters from other companies' franchises they are going to be really popular ones who will attract more players.

...Like Klonoa!!

I really doubt they are going to use obscure characters from non-Nintendo games. If they use characters from other companies' franchises they are going to be really popular ones who will attract more players.

Ice Climbers who? Mr. Game & What?

Ice Climbers who? Mr. Game & What?

Both Nintendo games.

Well in the link that I provided it does say that Rocket Knight Adventure had a "Sequel" for both Genesis/Megadrive and SNES. True, it didn't originate on a Nintendo platform but it did make an appearance. Well whatever the case it's just an idea for what I think would make a good addition to Brawl's roster.

Nintendo games = Games made/developed by Nintendo

Game and Watch shouldn't be totally obscure to people who may have been playing them in the 80s.

Ice Climbers was just one game, so that's more obscure.

Rocket Knight is a Konami character.

Yeah, what I mean is, Nintendo will use obscure characters that they own the rights to, because that is no problem. In order to use characters that other companies own the rights to they will have to go through all the various hubub of working out the legal stuff, and I seriously doubt they are going to bother to go to all that trouble unless it's for a very well-known character.

Personally, I think that every character ever invented since 100 BC should be in
Brawl. Just think of the possibilities.

Garamond is not going to be in guys.

I think Megaman should be in Brawl.

Yeah Megaman would be a great addition. Just as an idea but it would be cool if, similar to Kirby, Megaman could steal a specific power after every enemy that he eliminates, just like the way it is for every Megaman game to date. What do you guys and gals think? Good idea?

I have indeed been thinking Megaman would be great in Smash. He would obviously have a Kirby-like power stealing ability and I like your idea of having it be based on who he's KOed.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE BOMBERMAN

JUST BECAUSE I LIKE HIM MORE

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I KNOW HIS POTENTIAL MOVESET WOULD PROBABLY BE WORSE BUT THIS IS JUST A PERSONAL PREFERENCE OF MINE

i would love to see one of the battletoads on there. just imagine one of them giving mario or fox the big boot or giant fist. lol just the thought is funny

Bomberman would be cool if his entire image hadn't been so horribly ruined.

TK YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE TRUE SPIRIT OF BOMBERMAN!!!

THE TRUE SPIRIT!!!!

HE COULD HAVE HIS BOMBS... AND BOMBS... AND BOMBS...

SEE AN AWESOME MOVESET!

!!!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea09.html

Enemy RAYQUAZA used Aura Sphere!
It wasn't very effective...
FOX used Mirror Coat!
Enemy RAYQUAZA fainted!

Dude. Ketchum. Quit it with the caps lock. It's annoying.

Do not tell Garamond what to do.

Kamek 4 Brawl n.n

Perhaps Cloud of the FF series? I'd consider him

Just recently today a taunt update has been anounced.

Remember the other two editions had only one? This time around there's not one, not two, but THREE taunts to choose from. (D-Pad Up, Down, or Left/Right)

Perhaps Cloud of the FF series? I'd consider him

It's extremely unlikely considering he hasn't appeared on any Nintendo platforms.

I'd say Mega Man would be the most logical choice for another third party character.

I know, but still... I couldn't think of any1 else besides the ones already suggested. But if it was possible....

It's extremely unlikely considering he hasn't appeared on any Nintendo platforms.

It's a shame he had a small cameo in KH: CoM on the GBA, so he technically does have a chance. :/

It's a shame he had a small cameo in KH: CoM on the GBA, so he technically does have a chance. :/

I forgot about that :-X

It is still possible I suppose.

It would be funny if ToeJam and Earl got in the game. HA!

Haha, I ran into some idiot on youtube, who thinks nintendo will put a bunch of KH charecters and TMNT charecters in brawl just because he is going to send them a email.

holy lol.

I would love to see Simon Belmont or at least one of them in brawl. Hell, they could probably put in a couple belmonts in there with the color changing option or even do a Sheik type transformation into Alucard or something like that. It's obviously not likely but doesn't hurt to bring it up. Those that have played castlevania 3 might know what I'm talking about with the character switcher thingy.

I loved the 64 version. Awesome game.

One of the axem rangers would be cool as a character/assist trophy.

Hmmm...that's a though.

I wouldn't mind seeing the viruses from the Dr. Mario series debut as an assist trophy. If a character collided with a virus, the severity of the infection would correspond to the color of the virus.

It wouldn't have to affect a character's damage meter, though, but to induce vertigo

Blue - Light
Yellow - Mild
Red - Severe

The Knight chick from Twilight Princess (because she's hot).

Sad news, Europeople:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/06/smash-bros-brawl-not-expected-in-europe-until-q3-08/

This is just plain stupid. Gosh darn it, Nintendo! :(

what a kick in the teeth =/

I feel sorry for the nintendo fans.

They managed to release Super Mario Galaxy over here within a few days of the US launch. Shame they can't with Brawl.

They managed to release Super Mario Galaxy over here within a few days of the US launch. Shame they can't with Brawl.

The Australian release was nearly a whole month ahead of the American.

Anyway, regarding the 'delay' in Europe:
I am pretty sure this means America will be seeing a delay as well.

They managed to release Super Mario Galaxy over here within a few days of the US launch. Shame they can't with Brawl.

I doubt it's a case of "can't." Just won't. It is indeed quite lame.

Unless Chewey is right, but I'd like to believe they've had enough damn time for it by now. The game was supposed to be a fucking launch title.

Mega man would be cool. gotta have Proto man if that's the case. i'd love to cee some FF characters, but i doubt that's going to happen. Kefka vs. Bowser!

Anyway, regarding the 'delay' in Europe:
I am pretty sure this means America will be seeing a delay as well.

I doubt there will be another delay. For one thing, why would they accept pre-orders at GameStop? They would have to go through all the trouble to cancel the previous one and update it once again. And that would be quite a handful.

Yeah they are just fixing the online play. By the way if you are interested in a challenge I will accept friend requests for the Wii in preperation for Brawl just let me know.

Mine is 4129-6888-1435-0124
Let me know and give me your code aswell.

I think once the game comes out it is more or less going to be the method of interaction of choice for a good chunk of the regulars.

I don't know that I'm really going to stop playing it ever. For the rest of my life.

One thing that's getting to me is what Jigglypuff's Final Smash is gonna be. Hmmmm.........

SAKURAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIII

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tool man i am mad

WALUIGI!

FUCK!

Stafy as an assist trophy and not a playable? :((((((((((((((((((((((((
Waluigi as an assist trophy and not playable? Thank fucking god

Does anybody believe Megaman will be revealed on Monday, the day of his 20th birthday?

Because honestly, I'm not. It is very likely we'll just get another turd update, imo.

I hope we only get turd updates until the game is released because fuck any more spoilers. I'm excited enough for the game already, I don't need anything else spoiled fo rme.

Hmm... I know that Ike from PoR is going to be in it, but I think I'd rather have a lord from FE7 be a character. If they were going to pick one, my preference would be Hector, but even the other two would be fine. Plus, all the lords from FE7 have 2 weapon types they can use, though Lyn might be too similar to Link with the sword/bow combo. While there are other sword users in the game, there are no axe users. Also, they have Ike in his "Ranger" outfit, but he doesn't get Ragnell until he's a "Lord". Not a big deal, but still...

I hope we only get turd updates until the game is released because fuck any more spoilers. I'm excited enough for the game already, I don't need anything else spoiled fo rme.

Yeah. That's why I'm hardly following the updates. With Melee I already knew as much as I could about the game before I played it and I realized as I was unlocking stuff that it sucked. This time I wanna preserve most of the surprise.

That's quite the opposite for me.

This time, Event matches can be played in two-player mode! Wow. This is a great game for couples.

New Item Update!

This one is in fact a brand new item. But can only be used during team battles. This can in fact heal your teammate if thrown towards the right player.

It can backfire as you can mistakenly heal one of the opposing players.

Link:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/item13.html

best news in a while

best news in a while

WHY AM I SO BALD!?

Squirtle and Snake Kirbys are great.

I hope they have more characters then the ones they showed us already otherwise ill be pissed as hell
also i am mad about how they wont change the online play whats the fun in not knowing who you beat

(http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92837620070928screen006oz7.jpg)

Would love to have Dante and Vergil...Although Sol Badguy and Ky Kiske have a better chance than the two because they've been on a Nintendo console >.>

Just 23 more days until Brawl is released in Japan guys. I'm gonna have to leave the internet until it comes out here, which just might be a very long time :(

By any small chance has anyone heard this WILL be the last super smash bros made?

By any small chance has anyone heard this WILL be the last super smash bros made?

There's no evidence to suggest it will be.

By any small chance has anyone heard this WILL be the last super smash bros made?
There's not a chance this will be the last one made.

By any small chance has anyone heard this WILL be the last super smash bros made?

I highly doubt that possibility due to the global success of the Smash Bros. series.

ITT: Conversation disappears in favor of everyone responding to the same post to say the exact same thing.

Well i heard that melee was supposed to be the last of the super smash bros series but nintendo saw how it practically was number 1 on their sales chart decided to make another

Melee still costs about 40-50 used in stores... so Im sure that this one will be big too, and they will HAVE to make another, because nintendo loves to milk their franchises...

Bomberman in brawl would be amazing...

Apparently some information was leaked from the JumpFiesta show in Japan.

According to sources on the SmashBoards; Onix, Metagross, Castform, Garchomp and Gardevoir will appear from pokeballs.

Apparently some information was leaked from the JumpFiesta show in Japan.

According to sources on the SmashBoards; Onix, Metagross, Castform, Garchomp and Gardevoir will appear from pokeballs.
A bunch of stuff came out of Jump Fiesta. SPOILERS, maybe?


From various Japanese sources after playing at Jump Festa:

- Kirby�s Final Smash = roughly 35% damage
- The Soccer Ball item catches fire when used. It cannot be countered or caught.
- Clock item slows down time, which makes your opponents slower. This lasts for a certain amount of time. You can also get a clock that will screw up, and slow you down instead.
- Lucas�s PK Freeze is more maneuverable than Ness�s PK Flash
- Snakes�s land mines don�t detonate based on proximity. They are remote controlled.
- New FE Music: �The Kingdom of Bern�
- Regigigas, Metagross, Onix and Garchomp can come out of a Pokeball. Metagross = Earthquake, Onix = same move from Super Smash Bros., Regigigas = Crush Grip (this move not confirmed)
- Rosalina�s AT: Luna hovers around the board and will toss star bits. These can be used to recover damage. A luna follows Rosalina around.
- Pit and the Pokemon Trainer talk during their final smash. Pokemon Trainer - �Take That! Triple Finish!�
- Wario is powerful, but has a lot of start-up lag.
- Pegasus Knight = AT
- Zelda�s Din�s Fire has been nerfed a bit

There's this (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=134394) thread as well.

Warning! This post has SPOILERS in it...!!!

I heard that Super Smash Bros. is going to be a fighting game!

Captain Olimar confirmed as a playable character today guys along with his very own music.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pikmin.html

I honestly expected an AT for this guy so this update was quite a surprise.

i hope Louie makes an appearance

I honestly expected an AT for this guy so this update was quite a surprise.

I expected him as a playable character, so I'm glad to see it revealed~

My brother was telling me a couple days ago that if Olimar was in the game there could be so many cool moves you could think of him having. I never thought Olimar would ever make it because he wasn't much of a fighter in pikmin so I was shocked when today he was confirmed.

Olimar was a big surprise. I always thought they should've added him but didn't expect them to follow through with it. Olimar Kirby will look pretty cool with the helmet on!

I never played Pikmin, so seeing the announcement of Olimar in Brawl really makes me interested to see just how diverse and unique he can be in the game.

wow Olimar & the Pikmin's moves look really cool. i think i know who i'm going to be.

haha and ya the kirby olimar should be interesting

Maybe it's just me but every time I see new screen shots the graphics see to be a little sharper, cleaner, detailed. Anyone else think this way?

Well anyway it's been a long wait for a new character but it's good to see some of the unique ones make it in, still wouldn't mind Megaman > Viewtiful Joe. :)

Some in-depth info from the demo at Whobby 2008

http://www.brawlcentral.com/whobby_updates.php

Wow thats alot of good and bad news

Professor Nintendo head you need to play Pikmin it is one of the best games EVER for the Gc

And Wow all that news from whobby is quite interesting and makes me want more:-P

(please delete my post above and disregard it)

So...delayed until the 31st in Japan and delayed an extra month in the US. Still no EU release date confirmed although I'd expect around April/May.

And Sheiks back with an upgraded TP look. Hopefully this update will settle the arguments about her gender.

There were scans revealling Sheik from Famitsu magazine floating around for several hours prior to the Dojo update.

You can see them here: http://www.brawlcentral.com/famitsu_scans.php

Brawl got a 40/40 at Famitsu too, jftr.


Nintendo
January 24, 2008 Sale Date / 6,800 (sales tax inc.)
Variety Fighter/ Action
You can control tons of characters like Mario and Snake. Up to four players can battle at once. Cooperative mode is added in. Online battles are also possible.
Target Players: Anyone can enjoy this one
Average Play time: That depends on how you play this game

This time single player has tons of content. The adventure mode is quite long and fun. And the story presentation is amazing. As for the fights, with the strong unpredictable factor that comes with final smashes, more than ever we can be excited about matches not being related to skill. The controls and sound are also satisfying. Hats off to Nintendo.
Score: 10

The new unpredictable factor that is the final smash allows us to enjoy an amazing effect and refreshing feel from any character. The fights are even more intense. The single player modes are abundant and a plus. The Subspace Emissary Adventure mode movie and action tempo are good and you just forget time while playing. Im highly satisfied with the game.
Score: 10

The powerhouse cast and gimmicks! The dynamic and subtle character moves! The must see final smashes! There are tons of battle stages. The single player mode is also extremely satisfying. There is a stage edit, and you can browse through the detailed information in the game.
Score 10

The moves of the the all star roster of characters have been polished, and the addicting one player mode has been perfected. With its outstanding graphics and wonderful ambience, Brawl is an epic game in which you can feel the efforts that went into it. Every time you play it, you'll discover something new, and you'll savor both sweet joy and bitter loss when you battle.
Score: 10

As well as that, special attacks and final smashes were added to the profiles of every character, including Olimar's final smash 'End of Day.' They'll probably reveal that today, in my opinion.

And there's more too. Three new videos have surfaced recently (two advertisements and one how to play video).
They can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKYL1_yl0Ro - Commercial #4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMCV2JHlBCo - Commercial #5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2fagvDMExo - How to play.

http://www.brawlcentral.com/whobby_updates.php The World Hobby Fair page is still being updated too, so keep an eye on it.

Nice, that 'How to Play' video really shows off a lot, it was good seeing the stage creator and fighting alloy team in action.

As for Olimar's final smash, I'm guessing it will involve those vicious bugs that come out after dark in the original Pikmin (I can't remember their names).

I'm really impressed by the stage "Distant Planet", there's like a photorealism to it. It's too bad about the delay, I guess on the plus side this means that I can save up more money for some Thrustmaster Wireless Controllers (http://media.gear.ign.com/media/142/14221693/imgs_1.html). :)

Nice, that 'How to Play' video really shows off a lot, it was good seeing the stage creator and fighting alloy team in action.

As for Olimar's final smash, I'm guessing it will involve those vicious bugs that come out after dark in the original Pikmin (I can't remember their names).

Yeah that's what I am thinking. I don't know what else it could be.

They're called Bulborbs, by the way.


You may have noticed this, but there is a new assist trophy featured in commerical #5. It's a girl playing a guitar from a Japanese game called The Band.

in a perfect world we would all be rich, and only lame characters would be assist trophies!!!

Just to spark some life back into the thread, what are your opinions on downloadable content? Stuff like an extra stage or character that could be downloaded via the Wii Shop channel that would be brought out once a year.

Personally, I'd like it. Maybe only one or two characters though.

W00T, Go Smash Bros., YEAH! Okay, now then...downloadable content will be the best!! It's like the game never ends!=) Oh, and yes, Olimars final smash is the end of the day; he goes up in his ship and the enemys come and kill the other characters.^_^

Lucario and Ness confirmed.

http://wii.com/jp/movies/smashbros-movie1/

Check around 4:20 in the lower-right-hand corner that shows who you can use the stickers on. Lucario's and Ness' heads appear in separate images:

Lucario: http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vip439380np6.jpg

Ness: http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iup542612bd3.jpg

My, my what great vision you have.

wow, Lucario? That is awesome. Seriously. I would love to play as Lucario. I am surprised and pleased.

Jigglypuff is in there as well.

Jigglypuff is in there as well.

my younger brother isn't going to like that

Copypasting all of this from /v/ so take it with a grain of salt:
Brawl ~100 days away for Europe:
http://www.play.com/Games/Wii/4-/1028166/Super-Smash-Brothers-Brawl/Product.html
http://www.game.co.uk/Wii/Fighting/~r330130/Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl/

Importing issues:
>This is a fair warning to everyone who plans on importing Smash Bros. X to try playing it in a modded U.S. Wii; You will not be able to load the game without getting past the disc's Update. The update on the japanese game disc is not compatible with a U.S. Wii. When it'll flash the memory, your Wii will stop functionning altogether (completely or partially).

>If your Wii is a japanese one, you don't have to worry about anything except Wi-Fi play. Unless you're in stealth mode (WiiKey mod-chip option), you wont be able to connect to Wi-Fi play and your wii may be tracked.

Also, go check out www.brawlcentral.com
Somebody at 2ch apparently has Brawl has taken a screenshot of the starting roster.

That starting roster shot actually looks pretty convincing.

And wow @ Manaphy on the Dojo. Best Pokemon yet.

Edit - Wow, looks like it is real. They've posted a video now showing the character select screen in action - check Brawl Central, under the screenshots.

wow Lucario i wonder if you can use him with the pokemon trainer?

Uh I don't think so.

I wonder what his final smash will be.

I wonder what his final smash will be.

Something he doesn't deserve, probably.

Kinda like his spot in the game as a playable character.

I'd expect Lucario's FS to be Close Combat. He maybe locks onto a target and unleashes a flurry of punches.

Only one week left until the JP release so I think I'll post my expected roster so I can compare on the day.

THIS ROSTER IS NOT REAL - IT IS BASED PURELY ON MY EXPECTATIONS ON WHO WILL MAKE IT THROUGH. VERY UNLIKELY SPOILERS FOLLOW.

Characters that have capitalised names are currently un-confirmed:

Mario:
Mario
Luigi
Princess Peach
Bowser
Yoshi
GENO

The Legend of Zelda:
Link
Princess Zelda/Sheik
GANONDORF
CEL SHADED LINK

Metroid Series
Samus/Zero-Suit Samus
RIDLEY

Starfox Series
Fox
Falco
KRYSTAL

Pokemon
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard).
Jigglypuff
Lucario
Mewtwo

Mother/Earthbound:
Ness
Lucas

Fire Emblem:
Ike
Marth

Wario Series:
Wario

Kirby
Kirby
Metaknight
King Dedede

Donkey Kong:
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong

Other Nintendo series':
Captain Olimar/Pikmin
Pit
Ice Climbers
CAPTAIN FALCON
MR GAME AND WATCH
SUKAPON
ISAAC (2nd Party)

Third Party:
Solid Snake
Sonic the Hedgehog

Character total: 43 (includes transformations such as ZSS/Sheik and PT's Pokemon).

I think Lucario deserves to be in the game as much as most characters. I mean once you get the Mario/Link staples in I think anything is more or less fair game, and Lucario is exceedingly popular in Japan or so I hear.

well I hope that Lucario is not one of those characters that everyone loves because you can do some cheep tactics that does lots of damage or sends you flying off the stage and involves no skill
and just like Wattson said I have a gut feeling he will have a final smash he dose not deserve

plus check http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.php
they released a new video of a 4 way free for all it is awesome

I think Lucario deserves to be in the game as much as most characters. I mean once you get the Mario/Link staples in I think anything is more or less fair game, and Lucario is exceedingly popular in Japan or so I hear.

Lucario is pretty popular both here and in Japan... due solely to his anime appearance (okay, that's fine). But, as you know, he's not exactly a star player in competitive pokemon (unless it's changed since I stopped following it?).
What it really comes down to, though, is that Deoxys is also very popular both here and Japan, and Deoxys is a 100000000000x cooler than Lucario, especially when trying to come up with movesets for him. Also, Deoxys is a much more unique pokemon when it comes to position in the games, further elevating his chances.
Deoxys should've been playable. Lucario should've been an AT.

But!
It's not the end of the world or anything and I'm sure Lucario will be fun to play as.


The only thing I REALLY really want for the roster is to have Sukapon included...

Street Fighter IV will be better than Smash Bros.

NO WAY SMASH BROS IS THE BEST

Lucario is pretty popular both here and in Japan... due solely to his anime appearance (okay, that's fine). But, as you know, he's not exactly a star player in competitive pokemon (unless it's changed since I stopped following it?).
What it really comes down to, though, is that Deoxys is also very popular both here and Japan, and Deoxys is a 100000000000x cooler than Lucario, especially when trying to come up with movesets for him. Also, Deoxys is a much more unique pokemon when it comes to position in the games, further elevating his chances.
Deoxys should've been playable. Lucario should've been an AT.

But!
It's not the end of the world or anything and I'm sure Lucario will be fun to play as.


The only thing I REALLY really want for the roster is to have Sukapon included...

Lucario's not really top tier but he is pretty damn dangerous, mostly due to his unpredictability. He can be special, physical, or mixed, and that in itself makes him quite viable competitively. 4x rock resist is very good, and STAB close combat is good on just about anything.

I don't think Deoxys is nearly as popular as Lucario, and anyway it certainly doesn't have anywhere close to the personality and distinctiveness, let alone the fighting game appopriateness that Lucario has.

Street Fighter IV will be better than Smash Bros.

when ever it comes out! until then 2008 belongs to ssbb

I seriously doubt Street Fighter 4 is going to be better than much of anything, but then again Capcom forgot how to make fighting games a long time ago.

your right but 2008 and beyond is were we hope for winners, and say my life sill sucks, but at least the games in it don't. DARKNESS!

SPOILER KINDA




So the starting roster is everyone from the dojo except Snake and Sonic. Seems too big for my tastes, and odd that Dedede isn't an unlockable.
Speaking of him, with no DI, Dedede's fully charged forward smash can kill Mario from the middle of Final Destination (which is confirmed to return) at 17%. Wtf.

Yeah but when are you ever going to hit anybody with a fully charged forward smash?

coma, and risk leaving yourself wide open? never! darkness

Who do I want in Brawl? WHO DO I WANT IN BRAWL?!

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php?attachmentid=24995

I think that answers that. It's not all that likely, but still would be kick-ass!

Who do I want in Brawl? WHO DO I WANT IN BRAWL?!

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php?attachmentid=24995

I think that answers that. It's not all that likely, but still would be kick-ass!

I like you already. Stick around. MOAR POSTS PLZ!

I like you already. Stick around. MOAR POSTS PLZ!

WOW! Usually, when I say stuff like that, I get insulted or virtually flipped off
or "GTFO"'d.

Thank you, CyanCyde.

Anydangways, I'm looking forward to Brawl. Aside from Earthworm Jim, I also would like to see Krystal, King K. Rool and The Main Villiager fro Animal Crossing. Now don't hurt me for saying that, but it makes sense. I mean, we've got an Animal Crossing symbol. And besides...
(LOOK AWAY IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE SPOILERS!)




A japanese magazine said there WILL be an Animal Crossing Character in Brawl.

(possible spoiler!!)

I saw a clip of Kirby fighting Petey Pirahna (if I can spell at all...). I'm looking forward to being able to beat the crap out of Petey, as s/he's pissed me off in Strikers Charged more times than my sanity would allow me to count.

(end spoiler)


Thank you, CyanCyde.

EWJ would be a perfect fit for Brawl. I wish I'd thought of that myself, dude.

Krystal seems like a really good choice for Brawl. Sakurai said he'd like more female fighters and she would have quite an original moveset if she used her staff. She's one of the characters I'd love to see as playable characters along with Ridley from Metroid and Sukapon from Joy Mecha Fight (I think).

EWJ would be a perfect fit for Brawl. I wish I'd thought of that myself, dude.

Thanks. I even called Nintendo the past 5 months to see if they like the idea. The feedback is being routed all over the place. Here's a moveset I made for Jim, in the meantime:

Standard Special: Plasma Blaster (Shoots a blast of energy from his Big, Red Gun.)
Side Special: Head Whip (Whips your behind like a tamp towel!)
Up Special: Worm Copter (Spins his head to get a weaker, but more aireal Spinning Kong)
Down Special: HOME-ing Missiles (Straight out of Earthworm Jim 2, Jim shoots 3 little house-shaped, heat-seeking missiles.)
Final Smash: EAT COW! (Jim launches a Cow into orbit, and then comes crashing down. 90% on a foe, 10% on Jim.)

even though EWJ would be sweet to have in brawl there really is no place for him

even though EWJ would be sweet to have in brawl there really is no place for him

You never know, my good man...You NEVER know...

I mean, look at Snake...I mean, sure he was ASKED by Konami, but did WE know? For all we know, Nintendo could be asking Mr. TenNapel for ideas.

I don't really like Krystal. She seems a symbol of how mediocre Star Fox has been post-64 more than anything else to me.
She does seem to naturally lead to a unique moveset, but that's true for most potential characters (and Jade from Beyond Good and Evil would be a better staff-user :P).

DOUBLE POST LOL


JAPANESE INTRO VIDEO IS UP
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8&locale=en_CA&persist_locale=1
(i'm sure there's a smaller link I'm just too lazy)




SPOILERS








Marth and Ness return. Fuck yeah.

DOUBLE POST LOL


JAPANESE INTRO VIDEO IS UP
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8&locale=en_CA&persist_locale=1
(i'm sure there's a smaller link I'm just too lazy)




SPOILERS








Marth and Ness return. Fuck yeah.
I was just about to post the same thing. I'm very excited to see Marth return.

Ness has been pretty much confirmed for a while now though.

For anybody that cares: Brawl will take up 128 blocks of memory.

Ness has been pretty much confirmed for a while now though.


Right, but this ULTRA confirms it. :P

I'm so excited for the part of SSE when marth and metaknight team up...

Right, but this ULTRA confirms it. :P

I'm so excited for the part of SSE when marth and metaknight team up...
I haven't even watched the video yet. My internet is capped back to 28kbps (Australian internet) and the video refuses to load every time I try.

Still, it's a nice birthday present :D. Marth was my main in Melee.

Spoilers & double post


































LUIGI CONFIRMED!




Trophy list:
・イーブイ - Eevee
・オーキド博士 - Orchid Warrior
・キノピオ- Kinopio
・木町剣介 - Sword Assist something or other
・キングクルール - King K Rool
・クッパクラウン - Koopa Clown
・グルッピー - Gureppi
・スタンリー - Stanley
・トゲピー - Togepi
・どんべ＆ひかり - Donbay and Hikari
・ニャース - Meowth
・バルーンファイトの主人公(名前ないからないかな) - Balloon Fight People
・ベビークッパ - Baby Koopa (Kid Bowser I presume)
・リック - Rikku (!?)
・レイＭｋⅡ - Ray Mk II

I knew Luigi was in for a while now. Wasn't he already shown in a video somewhere on IGN? :confused: Let me see if I can find it.

I knew Luigi was in for a while now. Wasn't he already shown in a video somewhere on IGN? :confused: Let me see if I can find it.
He was in a video that was confirmed fake. That was it.



Here we have the video found on 2ch showing a few new things such as Port Town: Aero Dive, a new F-Zero stage, as well as a few new things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGEXUEdQvKg

Hmm, sorry, it seems that I was a little confused. In that IGN video it looked like Luigi but it was just Mario in a green shirt with brown overalls. Understandable how it could be confusing right? :)

Here's the video: Fire Emblem - Castle Siege 3-Tier (Off-Screen HD) (October 11, 2007) (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748545/vid_2158968.html)

More spoilers:






















Captain Falcon confirmed:


Edit:
Ganondorf and Falco confirmed. I will post pictures when I'm not so lazy.

Edit Edit:
Ridley is a boss.

・ニャース - Meowth

Fixed.

.

great

and there's a gameplay shot of gannondorf.
He doesn't have a sword.

Does that mean he's still a clone?

FUCK

I've got no problem with clones, personally. They all play very differently.

Characters unlocked so far (spoilers)























BOWSER
C.FALCON
DEDEDE
FALCO
GAME AND WATCH
GANONDORF
ICE CLIMBERS
JIGGLYPUFF
LUCARIO
LUIGI
MARTH
NESS
PIKACHU
PKMN TRAINER
R.O.B
SHEIK/ZELDA
SNAKE
SONIC
TABOO
WW LINK
ZSS/SAMUS

If the prophet was correct, there's only one more character left to be confirmed: Wolf.

For screenshots: http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32197/t1087403-epic-spoiler-thread/

I've got no problem with clones, personally. They all play very differently.

I have a problem with clones when the roster is this shitty. If you're going to have unimaginative, unsurprising character choices, why have so many be clones?
I have no problem with Gannondorf in melee, though. If his moveset gets luigi-fied, then that's fine. At least he has an almost unique final smash, unlike Ness and Falco...

I'm overall quite disappointed with the recent news.

EDIT:
I realize a lot of my posts have been negative lately about this game. I'm still SUPER excited, I just am very unahappy with how much lost potential is in what the roster is shaping up to be and with how minimal the number of surprises character-wise is, especially since this is supposedly the last of the series.

SPOILERS


R.I.P Playable Ridley, it actually looks as if he's (you guessed it) - too big. The only character I really wanted. The only other real problem I have with this roster is Toon Link. I expected him to be in as a Young Link replacement but I still felt a bit disappointed when I saw him revealed. ROB I can live with.

Oh, and I'd be a bit annoyed if Wolf was to be revealed (I'm guessing he probably will be soon). The thought of Wolf over Krystal makes me :(

god i cant wait for this game

It's confirmed; Wolf is the final newcomer. That makes 3 Starfox reps - all with the same Final Smash. The Landmaster.

Wolf gameplay link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6uRcUADi8

I'm still really looking forward to this game, I'm just a little disappointed about Metroid only getting one new rep (sort of) and Wolf over Krystal. The rest looks brilliant.

Tetra's pirate ship has also been confirmed as a stage along with Spear Pillar from Pokemon, Port Town from F-Zero and a classic Mario level. Tetra's Pirate ship takes place on Wind Waker's great sea and features the brilliant Dragon Roost Island theme.

No new word on Taboo yet (as far as I know) although I'm willing to bet his Final Smash is a Landmaster (if he's playable).

Good news: Falco isn't a 100% clone like he was in melee. He's seen throwing his reflector shield (wtf?) so he chances are some of his other b moves might be different too.

Overall, I like the roster so far. From What I have seen of Wolf, he seems to be a slower, but more user friendly version of Fox (gun shots look to be slower, but more powerful in some of the screens I have seen.)

Now if only some people over at GameFAQS would quit their kevetchin'....

Here's an awesome gameplay video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNvbPzSTpPI

Hahahaha.

Gotta love that Falcon Punch.

Here's an awesome gameplay video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNvbPzSTpPI

Amazing.

As for Falcon, forget his racer this should have been his Final Smash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw

Amazing.

As for Falcon, forget his racer this should have been his Final Smash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw

I think everyone who has seen that video in their lifetime agrees.



"I want Captain Falcon's final smash to be an epic Falcon Punch. One that's accompanied by a thirty minute fully animated feature that has the budget of the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy put together times 2.
The animation shows Falcon growing up, learning from his mentor how to be a strong fighter and to fight for what's right. Then, it shows whoever the opponent or opponents are show up and kill all of Falcon's friends and family. From there, things kick back into real time, and it shows tears streaming down Falcon's face as his mask explodes. He begins charging his punch, and in the background, images of his fallen friends and family and cheering him on.
Then, he unleashes it. A Falcon Punch so powerful, that you have to drop your controller because it's shaking so hard. Your sound system explodes, no matter how high end it is. The last thing you see before your TV screen explodes is the enemy turn to dust as they are hit by a flaming falcon the size of the moon."

:puppydog: Beautiful.

Hey I have a question. I dont have my computer with me for the next couple of days but I brought my Wii. Can you suggest some sites that are covering gameplay footage of Brawl? Other then Youtube it would be nice to play videos formats that are supported on this system, so sites like that would be useful.

Where can I get up to the minute coverage of this game is basically what I'm asking. :)

NicoVideo (I think) is another site where you register an account and can watch videos. However, it's japanese so regestering may be a bit of a problem. BrawlCentral is a site that covers up to date Brawl news although I don't think they have many videos (bar the embedded -sp- on the front page).

While on the subject of Captain Falcon, I present to you his should-of-been stage entrance created by someone on the GameFAQs Brawl board.


The camera shows Captain Falcon many miles above the stage, falling at a rapid speed, while playing a flaming guitar with his teeth. He gets bored and throws the guitar at a nearby mountain, causing the mountain to explode. Only instead of debris, pornography comes flying out of the explosion, which Captain Falcon looks at while eating raw meat, drinking beer, and flexing his biceps.

He gets bored with the pornography, so he destroys it all with his chest hair, which he can grow at will. He finishes his raw meat and beer, so he eats the beer glass, like a real man. He still has quite a long way to go before he crashes into the stage, so he starts striking manly poses, while shooting bullets out of his iron nipples. These bullets explode upon impact with the ground, launching a flaming truck into the air, straight towards Captain Falcon, who slices it in half before it can reach him with the force created by him flexing his pecks.

As he passes the gas tank, which became detached, he falcon punches it causing it to explode with the force of a nuclear warhead. This propels Captain Falcon towards the stage at an incredible speed.

Captain Falcon crashes into the stage with a pelvic thrust, done at near the speed of light. He climbs out of the crater he created, and flexes every muscle in his body at the same time. The incredible force created by this kills everyone within a 500 mile radius, and every female in the universe climaxes.

Hey for anyone wanting to watch live streams of Brawl but doesn't know how, I can walks you through it.

STEPS THE ONE:
Get peercast (http://www.peercast.org/) if you don't have it. Make sure you get the standalone AND the plugin for the media player you want.

STEPS THE TWO:
Go to http://kp.podzone.net/

STEPS THE THREE:
Click "チャンネル一覧"

STEPS THE FOUR: (Optional)
Click "[全ジャンル表示]" to show the different tags of videos

STEPS THE FIVE:
Look for スマブラ or スマブラX (click on the tag for it, it'll appear after you hit 全ジャンル表示 but it's possible the tag will be there beforehand)

STEPS THE SIX:
Have peercast running but NOT your media player

STEPS THE SEVEN:
Click the icon next to the stream you decide you want (ie the Bananas, or something similar)

STEPS THE EIGHT:
Peercast should automatically make your player play the stream. It might not work. You can try left clicking on the peercast icon in the tray and telling it to play again, or just try a different stream.

STEPS THE NINE:
ENJOYS THE BRAWL
Use pee

No new word on Taboo yet (as far as I know) although I'm willing to bet his Final Smash is a Landmaster (if he's playable).

Taboo's a boss

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A5oNpZWTeow&feature=user

And heres a video showing everyones final smashes:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YynJ8z8li7w

uh... who's taboo?

He's the new guy who is apparently the final boss. I'm pretty sure he's an original character designed for Brawl (as far as I'm aware anyway).

oh. that's interesting

By any rate, he seems harder than Master Hand :laugh:


And wtf is luigi's final smash?

This game is going to control my life.

And I look forward to it.

Luigi's FS is like an acid trip. He does this strange dance, the colours around him invert and status abnormalities are inflicted on opponents (sleep, flowers on heads etc).

Luigi's FS is like an acid trip. He does this strange dance, the colours around him invert and status abnormalities are inflicted on opponents (sleep, flowers on heads etc).

Incorrect, in the bubble you take damage and move slower.

Oh, I've only seen it once.

I'll have to watch it again sometime.

Oh, I've only seen it once.

I'll have to watch it again sometime.

I spent 2 whole days watching Brawl videos, yet I still want more.

I already know the whole list of characters of the game... and i'm very dissapointed. The first thing i said was "I saved 50 bucks!!!"

For anyone who cares.

goto: it.youtube.com

search "super smash bros brawl the subspace emissary lvl"

Enjoy!

Who exactly is missing from the game that you wanted in there?


(directed at all those who are bitching about the roster).

i'm probably behind but Kazushige Nojima helped with the Subspace Emissary?

http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/ssbb/vol4_page2.jsp

that's pretty cool. god, i can't wait for this game!

i'm probably behind but Kazushige Nojima helped with the Subspace Emissary?

http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/ssbb/vol4_page2.jsp

that's pretty cool. god, i can't wait for this game!

I think your* signature is over the limit.

EDIT: I can't stop doing that ~_~

Haha, no shit. :P

Who exactly is missing from the game that you wanted in there?


(directed at all those who are bitching about the roster).

Ridley
Geno
Isaac
Sigurd
Lyn
Micaiah*
Krystal*
Mewtwo
Midna
Tingle
Vaati*
Bowser Jr.*
Sukapon
Balloon Fighter
Mach Rider*
Takamaru
King K. Rool
NON CLONED Toon Link (uses Deku Leaf and other WW/PHG items)
NON CLONED Gannondorf (uses sword and stuff)
UNIQUE FS Falco
UNIQUE FS Wolf
UNIQUE FS Lucas

3rd Party:
Megaman
Pac Man
Bomberman
Simon Belmont

And that's just off the top of my head.

The ones with *'s I don't particularly care about but I know people wanted them in.

Hahahaha, it does suck that Wolf, Falco and Fox all have the same FS. Why coudn't they use different vehicles? it's not like the landmaster is the only tank/ship in star fox. Ridley is too big (or so I'ver heard). Lucario is pretty much Mewtwo. And lol at Pacman.

Ridley, Krystal, Sukapon and Micaiah would have been great. Sukapon would have been a brilliant WTF character and Micaiah would have been good because she's a non-sword wielding Fire Emblem character.

Krystal's staff could have been intergrated well (shame her FS would have probably been a Landmaster). Ridley was my most anticipated, I still think it would have been possible to scale him down enough (look at Bowser). Nevertheless, I'm still glad he's in, from what I've seen in SSE gameplay videos he kicks some serious ass in the story mode. Strangely enough, I'm not at all bothered about Vaati not being a PC or AT. As long he's a sticker/trophy I'll be content.


Lucario is pretty much Mewtwo.

Not really. He's sort of Luigified (not a direct clone but a bit similar).

so glad marth is back think he'll be better than ike

WTF is with the "ZOMG I WONT GENO!!!!!11!1!11!!1one!!" shit? It's a square owned character!

WTF is with the "ZOMG I WONT GENO!!!!!11!1!11!!1one!!" shit? It's a square owned character!

thats just too bad

Ridley
Geno
Isaac
Sigurd
Lyn
Micaiah*
Krystal*
Mewtwo
Midna
Tingle
Vaati*
Bowser Jr.*
Sukapon
Balloon Fighter
Mach Rider*
Takamaru
King K. Rool
NON CLONED Toon Link (uses Deku Leaf and other WW/PHG items)
NON CLONED Gannondorf (uses sword and stuff)
UNIQUE FS Falco
UNIQUE FS Wolf
UNIQUE FS Lucas

3rd Party:
Megaman
Pac Man
Bomberman
Simon Belmont


This list just seems crazy and unreasonable to me. Only so many characters can go in and none of the ones listed there are really that iconic save requests for more unique versions of characters that are actually in the game. Given how long it has taken to develop I think people should be more accepting of certain characters having the same final smash or being clones.

I dunno, I'm not sure why I'm the only one who doesn't seem to be holding this game to crazy insane expectations but really I have seen nothing to be significantly disappointed about in everything I've looked at and I'm really just happy that there is a new Smash coming out with more characters than ever, less clones than last time, and a lot more awesome stuff. If there isn't a character from every single game in the history of Nintendo consoles, I think I will live. =/

I think you're signature is over the limit.

it is indeed a little big...thanks!

Its just that considering the delays and the huge staff of some of the best game designers, we were expecting more. I mean three Fox reps, all clones>:O ? Theres no excuse for that. Also Ganon didn't get a new move set, though he had great potential for that, but hey, at least he didn't get Falcons final smash:-P !

This list just seems crazy and unreasonable to me. Only so many characters can go in and none of the ones listed there are really that iconic save requests for more unique versions of characters that are actually in the game. Given how long it has taken to develop I think people should be more accepting of certain characters having the same final smash or being clones.

I dunno, I'm not sure why I'm the only one who doesn't seem to be holding this game to crazy insane expectations but really I have seen nothing to be significantly disappointed about in everything I've looked at and I'm really just happy that there is a new Smash coming out with more characters than ever, less clones than last time, and a lot more awesome stuff. If there isn't a character from every single game in the history of Nintendo consoles, I think I will live. =/


I never said I wanted the whole list implemented.

It's just a list of characters I wanted to see in Brawl. I also would love to see SSE have a Bioshock-quality story that takes 40+ hours to complete without it ever feeling stale, and for there to be an assist trophy of every single nintendo character who didn't make it in as a playable character, and for the game to make the wii print golden $100 bills out of the cd slot every few seconds of gameplay.

Obviously that's unreasonable.

What wouldnt' be unreasonable would be wanting ~5 characters from the list being implemented. If even those "5 characters" were all decloning the final smashes and movesets of the characters we have now, I (and others) would be much happier (and I'm already pretty happy as it is). Or, alternatively, if they added Geno, Ridley, King K. Rool, Isaac, and (sigh) Krystal, almost nobody would be complaining.

It's really, in the end, Sakurai's fault for overhyping the game and making the starting roster too big, and us dissapointed people's fault for buying into the hype. If he had, for instance, NOT included Dedede, Diddy Kong, Metaknight, Pokemon Trainer, and Olimar in the starting roster and we had just found out about them last week, it would've been much more exciting. Additionally, if Sonic and Snake also hadn't been revealed, the hype would have reached enormouse levels when the leaks came out.

Oh well.

Finally, I find it absurd that you think Falco, Wolf, Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, Snake, Lucas, Ike, and Pit are any more iconic for Nintendo than ANY of the characters I listed.

if only jigglypuff or omar was replaced with someone with more "iconic"

saying the words assist trophy make me want to vomit!
without playing the game i fill confident pointing out who's a joke character or not!

if only jigglypuff or omar was replaced with someone with more "iconic"

saying the words assist trophy make me want to vomit!
without playing the game i fill confident pointing out who's a joke character or not!

What? Jigglypuff and Olimar are both awesome characters, one of which is a Smash staple and the other is an iconic character if only because he's the main character of a Miyamoto series (of which, to my knowledge, only Muddy Mole isn't a playable character in brawl)

i love seeing the reaction on my bros faces when they loose to jiggly

...if they added Geno..



WTF is with the "ZOMG I WONT GENO!!!!!11!1!11!!1one!!" shit? It's a square owned character!

And a stupid f'n character, imo.

I'm a little surprised that they didn't add Krystal and instead brought back Falco, he's even more of a clone then Wolf.

Also Baby Bowser would have been an awesome addition if they built him by his Super Mario Sunshine model.

I think that there shold have been another character from the F-Zero series. Some say Black Bull but I'm thinking of a lesser known but probably more powerful Death Born.

Wow, people choose some strange characters to add from Capcom. Dante? Really? First choice should be obvious, Megaman. Second could possibly be Viewtiful Joe, He's the perfect Brawler, moveset and final smash would've been the easiest for them think of. Some might still want Bomber Man but personally I'm not too fond.

No girls representing the Fire Emblem series? There are many good ones to choose from.

The most off base character that I would want in this game, and I know that it's no less crazy then Dante who I compleined about earlier, would be Sora from Kingdom Hearts. I know that he'll never be in the game mostly because he was never on a Nintendo Consel. Nonetheless he would have been a great fit.

Maybe if, by some miracle, Sqare Enix were to announce a KH game fot the Wii and Wii Connect 24 were used to add new characters then...probably not in a million years huh.

Btw was there an official announcement as to whether Wii Connect 24 is going to be used in this way or is it still just speculative?

Well that was just CyberSpark's two cents, not that it matters much. :)

I wrote all of this on my Nintendo Wii so please excuse any tipos. :laugh:

Finally, I find it absurd that you think Falco, Wolf, Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, Snake, Lucas, Ike, and Pit are any more iconic for Nintendo than ANY of the characters I listed.

Well Snake I agree about, but that is obviously just a marketing thing. He may not be iconic for Nintendo but he is certainly more iconic in general than any of those characters. Ike, yeah, for us probably not, but Fire Emblem is way more popular in Japan. However in general I agree about that one, and Lucas. People have been demanding Pit since the first game, though. I don't think the fan demand has been as big for anybody else at all, they almost had to put him in the game.

Mewtwo, Baby Bowser, and maybe K. Rool I could see being as iconic as most of the characters in the game. K. Rool I always felt only counted somewhat though since he was invented by Rare and I always thought he was pretty lame. So yeah, I can see a little bit if this, but I just can't see how it's at all a big deal for any of these characters to not be in.

I also just can't really see how the order of things revealed makes a difference anyway. Everyone is already going to know the whole roster before the game comes out; why does the surprise prior to it matter? I mean is it better to find out about exciting characters closer to the release of the game for some reason?

Ike, yeah, for us probably not, but Fire Emblem is way more popular in Japan.

No, I mean in the Fire Emblem series, Sigurd is by the far the most popular character in Japan. Ike is a sensical choice since he is in the latest two games, but Sigurd is probalby the most iconic Fire Emblem character.


People have been demanding Pit since the first game, though. I don't think the fan demand has been as big for anybody else at all, they almost had to put him in the game.

I'd say Ridley's fanbase has got to be just as big, but oh well.


Mewtwo, Baby Bowser, and maybe K. Rool I could see being as iconic as most of the characters in the game. K. Rool I always felt only counted somewhat though since he was invented by Rare and I always thought he was pretty lame. So yeah, I can see a little bit if this, but I just can't see how it's at all a big deal for any of these characters to not be in.

Well I basically agree with you there. I'm not a huge King K. Rool fan, but Donkey Kong Country and its sequel stand today still as two of my favorite games of all time so it's nice to see it represented (although I'd rather see more diversity if I had to choose). Mewtwo is definitley as iconic as Charizard and Pikachu, probably being (arguably) the three most popular pokemon (besides MUDKIPZLOLOLOLOL)... at least, among most fans of the series.

Basically I think people want to see Smash represent a wide range of Nintendo's history and have it expand more horizontally with new franchises each version, instead of vertically with almost entirely adding characters from already-represented franchises. I believe Brawl only added 3 Nintendo ones (Pikmin, Kid Icarus, and Wario... 4 if you count ROB :/), and actually lost 1 (Dr. Mario). Then again, Melee only added 3 (Ice Climbers, Fire Emblem, and Dr. Mario)... or 4 if you cant G&W. Still, I think in general people wanted more than that.


I also just can't really see how the order of things revealed makes a difference anyway. Everyone is already going to know the whole roster before the game comes out; why does the surprise prior to it matter? I mean is it better to find out about exciting characters closer to the release of the game for some reason?

It's the hype factor. The most exciting part of seeing spoilers for a new game is all the cool, interesting, and unique unlockables. SSB64 had a starting roster of 8, with 4 unlockables, total of 12. Melee had a starting roster of 14 (15 w/ Sheik counted), and 11 unlockable characters, making a total of 24 (25 w/ Sheik)... almost double the starting characters, almost triple the unlockables, and over twice as many total characters. Sweet! Brawl has a starting roster of 21 (23 with ZSS and Sheik, 25 with them + pokemon from PKMN Trainer), and 14 unlockable characters, making a total of 35 characters (37 or 39, depending if you count alts as other characters). Note that there's only 1.5x as many starting characters, only 3 more unlockables, and only 10 more total. Quite a lame improvement compared to SSBM's leap.

But the biggest blow is that, while yeah there only 3 more unlockable characters than melee (still that's 14 unlockables!), only Toon Link, ROB, and Wolf aren't returning characters that we expected back - Snake and Sonic, too, but they were already announced. Ness could count as unexpected, too, but that could go etiher way. Melee's unlockables contained a whole NINE newcomers. That's nine characters to get super excited about when the game was launched. Brawl only delivered three and were are all expecting Brawl to improve on Melee in every aspect. That's where the problem lies. It improved it in most ways, but when they were saying the roster is "larger than you can imagine" and stuff like that, it's hard not to be a little dissapointed.

I'm already at the point where I'm mostly over the dissapointment, though; I just wanted to explain myself better. If it were up to me, I'd rather see a large diverse cast of Nintendo characters than the roster we have, but that doesn't mean I don't still expect it to be the best game I've ever owned (since Melee is definitley my favorite game ever for now).

Which reminds me, I remember once someone saying they should use a Hanafuda character from Nintendo's pre-video game cards, and I totally think that would be an awesome character. I'd also have loved to see Miis as a playable character, considering how much fun messing with just names can be with friends in melee... but oh well...

edit: I just realized my post sounds a lot like "lol numbers are different so it's worse" but basically to make a TL;DR version: I like unexpected surprising unlockables and Brawl has such a small number there that it is dissapointing.