Surprentis
04-09-2002, 02:21 AM
were do u get all of em? not the materia but the skills themselvs

PTM
04-09-2002, 02:26 AM
Dude, for questions that big just go to a website (not to be advertising and all, and no offense FFshrine guys... I love this forum and I can't wait to see the site open - this is the only FF forum I post on!). Try FFonline.com... they have a pretty comprehensive database for stuff like that.

- PTM

Surprentis
04-09-2002, 02:42 AM
i would but i dont have the time..

MogKnight
04-09-2002, 04:10 AM
I just refered to the FF7 Official book... however, I don't have it anymore... >_<

Bone dragon
04-09-2002, 08:04 AM
i think the pandora box is the strongest in enemy skill !
it will be found at begin disk 3 when we get inside the planet !

MogKnight
04-09-2002, 08:37 AM
Don't tell me your REALLY from Vietnam..... >_<

Ah anyways, Enemy Skill materia will take a LONG time to fill up. Get hit by everything and everyone and do it early!

Kie
04-09-2002, 10:45 AM
Man, all these posts and nothing said about actual Enemy Skills. Well, i'll do it then (this is not from any playguide cause they suck at giving you GOOD info about em)

NOTE: These may/will contain spoilers. I'll only do the easiest baddies/ways to get the skills.

Flamethrower: The arch Dragon in the Mithril Mine has this (these come in twos and threes, float in the air and may come with other monsters. This does Fire damage to the enemy.

Death Force: A huge monster called Adamantaimai on the shores of the Wutai continent has this. I suggest using Manipulate. I don't really know what this does, cause remember, i'm not using any guides. i don't use this much.

Big Guard: The Beach Plug on the shores of Costa Del Sol have this. They're usually in 3s and you'll have to use manipulate to get the skill. This skill puts Barrier, M-Barrier and Haste on you characters. I like it.

Matra Magic: The Custom Sweeper that hangs around Midgar has this one. It uses it often so it's not hard to get. This skill attack all characters for around 700HP.

Pandora's Box: The Dragon Zombie in the North Crater has this, get him to near death and make sure you have a lot of health. This is the strongest skill.

Shadow Flare: Another strong skill. You can get it from Ultima Weapon or Dragon Zombie, both are equally hard to get. Safer Sephiroth also uses it but it's no use if you learn it then.

Laser: The Dark Dragon in North Crater would be your best bet unless you're in the Corel Prison, in that case, get it from the Death Claw. This attacks about 600HP.

Dragon Force: Don't really know what this does. Get it from Dark Dragon.

Roulette: The Death Dealer in Nothern Crater has these. This chances your life.

Goblin Punch: The only place you can get this from is Goblin Island which is to the North-East part of the World. Get it from the Goblins there (ironically). This does average damage.

Aqualung: If you don't get it from JENOVA Life after Aeris dies, then you can only get it from Harpy, a strong flying guy in the desert around Gold Saucer where Ruby hangs out. Just run along the edge of the sand if you don't have a mountain chocobo and you'll eventually find it. This does strong water damage.

Lvl 4 Suicide: Get it from Mu who hangs around the chocobo garden. It's quite hard to find and is a little squirral thing who looks half underground. This one stuffs your HP up if your level is a multiple of 4. Good against Malboro, who i'll say later.

Chocobuckle: Not too easy if you don't know what your doing. Find a chocobo, and sense it, making sure not to make it run away. You have to be good at Maths here. If the chocobo's level is a multiple of 4, use Lvl 4 Suicide on it and it'll use chocobuckle on the person. This does the amount of damage equivalent to the nuber of times you've escaped in battles. Just run away 9999 times and you'll have an unbeatable attack.

????: That is actually what it's called and is like that because its damge pattern is unknown. Get it from the Jersey's in the Shinra Building.

Trine: Well, if you don't get it from the Materia Keeper in Mt Nibel or from the Stilvas in Gaia's Mountain, you can't get it at all. And since you only vs the Materia Keeper once and get on Gaia's Cliff once, it's not easy. Which doesn't make sense since you get your final Enemy Skill after all that. If anyone knows another place to get that, please tell me. I don't like my Enemy Skills to be not full. This skill is a strong lightning attack.

Bad Breath: You can get this from Malboro in either Gaia's Mountain or the Gelniki Plane underwater. Malboro is scary (seriously) but if you have a Ribbon on, it's fine. Just use Lvl 4 Suicide on it. This totally stuffs you up. A mixture of sleep, from confuse, poison, two countdowns to death and you go small too.

Magic Breath: Get from Malboro also, but you'll have to manipulate it to get that one. A strong Ice attack.

Beta: Ahhhhh Beta, an annoying one to get when you're weak. Get it from the Midgar Zolom near the chocobo farm. You have to get it almost dead (like with 500HP left) I suggest grenades. Beta is another strong fire attack.

Lvl 5 Death: The Parasites in the North Crater have these. Just manipulate them. These guys also have Magic Breath. This kills anyone who is a multiple of 5 as a level. (exactly why your level stops at 99, not 100)

Angel's Whisper: You sure do get a lot of Skills in the North Crater. Pollensalta in the Northern Crater has Angel Whisper and you'll definately need Manipulate for this one. This restores a party member's HP fully.

Magic Hammer: Get this from the Razor Weeds around Wutai's grass areas. This takes off 100MP from the enemy and h=gives it to you. (fun when you do it on yourself)

Frog Song: The Touch Me frog has this and is in the forests near Gongaga. This turns you into a frog. (obviously)

Death Sentence: A countdown of a minute starts when cast. The Gi Spectre has it when you're under Cosmo Canyon but i know some baddie outside Cosmo Canyon has it too, i just haven't found it.

White Wind: Almost forgot this. This restores all character's HP by about 2500HP. Manipulate the Zemzelett that's around Junon.

Well, enjoy. That's all 24 of em.

Neo Xzhan
04-09-2002, 12:03 PM
The ???? enemy skill does damage equal to the number of HP u've lost so it's realy useable if ur down to a low number of HP. The enemy skill pandora's box is used by a zombie dragon and take note that he only uses once in the game. Dragon Force is suposed to give ur magic defence a boost though i don't know how it works. The White Wind skill cures the number of HP of caster he currently has and cures all status abnormalitys. Death Force protects u from sudden death attacks (like the attacks from the Tonberry Kings).

Agrias
04-10-2002, 09:02 PM
UHMMMM:::but Laser halves HP,so the damage isn't fixed.On bosses it doesn't work(Grrrrrrrr....)

Raiden
04-10-2002, 10:15 PM
Laser uses Gravity element (I found this out he hard way). Quite a few bosses are imune to gravity.

White Wind is actually one of the most useful spells (IMO). It heals the group with the caster's HP, so if say Cloud had 5475 HP when he casted White Wind, everyone in the party will be healed by 5475 HP. Also, it'll get rid of certain status effects like Confuse. I'm sure i gets rid of more, but I haven't played FF7 in a while.

oOAngelMoonOo
04-11-2002, 12:34 AM
Trine: Well, if you don't get it from the Materia Keeper in Mt Nibel or from the Stilvas in Gaia's Mountain, you can't get it at all. And since you only vs the Materia Keeper once and get on Gaia's Cliff once, it's not easy. Which doesn't make sense since you get your final Enemy Skill after all that. If anyone knows another place to get that, please tell me. I don't like my Enemy Skills to be not full. This skill is a strong lightning attack.


actually, *SPOILER* if you do Yuffi's sidequest and fight her father GoDo(i think) he uses Trine

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
04-13-2002, 10:43 AM
The best way of getting some of the enemy skills is use manipulate (you can't manipulate bosses so you can't get them all that easily) and then get the enemy to use the enemy skill on you.

Kie
04-13-2002, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by oOAngelMoonOo



actually, *SPOILER* if you do Yuffi's sidequest and fight her father GoDo(i think) he uses Trine

But still, you only vs him once too. Is there any other way?

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
04-13-2002, 11:19 AM
I just want to say you can get Trine somewhere else - Goto the desert prison and there are monsters there that can cast Trine on you.

Kie
04-13-2002, 11:33 AM
Yes but once again, you can only go there once. I mean some baddie that you can vs anytime.

ultimecia
04-13-2002, 03:48 PM
I find the best way to get the Enemy Skills is to use the Manipulate Skill with a suitable character and manipulate the monster you want to get the enemy skill off..

Just Get the Monster to cast the Skill on the members with the Materia equipped and then when they get it get the monster to kill itself while it's still manipulated!!!

PuRiKaH
04-13-2002, 06:15 PM
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ANGEL WHISPER COSTS 50 MP
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- This skill brings the target back to life and cures any status
ailments. It _sets_ the targets HP to a random amount (usually
in excess of 7000 points. However, this can mean trouble for
characters with high HP, as they will actually have their life
lowered by this skill. Note that the 'setting HP' aspect of
this spell doesn't affect enemies.
- Learn from the women in the yellow swimsuits (Polan Solita) you
meet in the Northern Crater (Disc 3 only).
- You can manipulate a Polan Solita.

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AQUALUNG COSTS 34 MP
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- All targets are hit for water damage.
- Learn from Jenova*Birth in the Forgotten Capital (Disc 1), or
from the chimera-like Harpy in the Corel Desert, or from the
floating dragon-like monster (Serpent) in the sunken plane near
the Gold Saucer (Disc 2 or later).
- You can meet Harpies if you walk around the edge of the desert
(even if you don't have the Buggy). Then just manipulate one
when you meet it.

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BAD BREATH COSTS 58 MP
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- Inflicts multiple status ailments on all enemies, including:
Confusion, Frog, Minimum (Shrink), Mute, Poison, and Sleepel.
- Learn from the green creatures with big mouths (Mobors) on the
outside ledges in Gaea's Cliff (Disc 2). You can also meet
them in the Northern Crater.
- Be sure to have some protective accessories equipped (such as
a Ribbon), or you may be too weakened to kill the Molbor after
it attacks.

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BETA COSTS 35 MP
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- All targets are hit for fire-based damage.
- Learn from the shadow snake (Midgar Zolom) in the marsh near
the Chocobo Farm.
- Midgar Zolom won't use this skill until he's been severely
weakened (he'll start waving back and forth).

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BIG GUARD COSTS 56 MP
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- This skill has the same effect as casting Haste, Barrier, and
MBarrier on all your allies.
- You can learn it from the shelled cratures (Beach Blug) that
live on the shore near Gongaga Town.
- You have to manipulate this enemy in order to learn the skill.

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CHOCOBUCKLE COSTS 3 MP
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- One foe is hit for special damage. This attack does 1 point of
damage for each time that you've run away from a battle since
starting the game.
- To learn it, purchase some Mimett Greens, and make sure you know
L4 Suicide. Go fight some Chocobos outside of the Chocobo Farm,
or fight Chocobos living near Mideel. If the Chocobo you fight
has a level that's a multiple of 4, use a Mimett Green on it,
then cast L4 Suicide on it. It should counterattack with the
Chocobuckle Skill.

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DEATH FORCE COSTS 3 MP
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- One ally becomes immune to instant death attacks.
- Learn from the huge turtles (Adamantaimai) by the shoreline of
the westernmost continent (near Wutai).
- You can control an Adamantaimai.

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DEATH SENTENCE COSTS 10 MP
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- One enemy is condemned (they die when the counter reaches zero).
- Learn from the Sneaky Steps in the Sealed Cave below Cosmo
Canyon (Disc 1 only), or from the yellow Bound Fats that live in
the area before and behind the Forgotten Capital.
- You can control a Bound Fat.

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DRAGON FORCE COSTS 19 MP
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- This skill increases your physical defense and magic defense
rating.
- Learn from the Dark Dragons in the Northern Crater.
- You can't learn this unless you manipulate a Dark Dragon.

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FLAME THROWER COSTS 10 MP
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- A stream of fire will burn one enemy for fire-based damage.
- Learn from the yellow dragons (Archdragon) in the Mythril Mine,
or from the Dragons in the mountains behind Nibelheim.
- You can control a Dragon or Archdragon.

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FROG SONG COSTS 5 MP
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- Transforms one enemy into a frog and puts them to sleep.
- Learn from the green frogs (Touch Me) in the circular forest
near Gongaga.
- You can manipulate a Touch Me.

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GOBLIN PUNCH COSTS 0 MP
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- One enemy is hit for physical damage. The damage inflicted is
multiplied if your opponent has the same exp. level that you do.
- Learn from the boxing glove-wearing Goblins found on the only
forested island in the northeast area of the map (Goblin Isle).
- You can manipulate a Goblin.

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L4 SUICIDE COSTS 10 MP
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- Any enemy with an experience level that is a multiple of 4 loses
almost all of their HP. They may also be afflicted with the
Minimum status.
- Learn from the squirrels (Mu) found near the Chocobo Farm.

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L5 DEATH COSTS 22 MP
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- Any enemy whose level is a multiple of 5 is instandly killed.
- Learn from the blue, leech-like Parasites in the Northern
Crater.
- You can manipulate a Parasite.

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LASER COSTS 16 MP
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- This skill reduces an enemy's HP by one-half.
- Learn from the Death Claws in the Corel Prison (Disc 1 only), or
from the Dark Dragons in the Northern Crater.
- You can manipulate both the Death Claws and Dark Dragons.

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MAGIC BREATH COSTS 75 MP
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- All enemies are hit for fire, ice, and lightning-based damage.
- Learn from the crab-like Stilves in Gaea's Cliff (Disc 2 only),
or from the blue, leech-like Parasites in the Northern Crater.
- You can manipulate a Parasite.

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MAGIC HAMMER COSTS 3 MP
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- One enemy is bopped on the head. They lose up to 100 MP, which
will be given to you. It's worth noting that most enemies who
rely on magic attacks will be unable to do much of anything if
their MP is drained to zero. This includes quite a few of the
bosses.
- Learn from the plant-like begins (Razor Weed), found on the tip
of the westernmost continent (north of Wutai).
- You can manipulate a Razor Weed.

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MATRA MAGIC COSTS 8 MP
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- When used, you'll fire a volley of missiles at one enemy for
magical damage.
- Learn from the large machines (Sweeper Custom) near the Midgar
Area, or from the wheeled robots in the underwater section of
Junon (Disc 2 only).
- You can manipulate a Sweeper Custom.

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PANDORA'S BOX COSTS 110 MP
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- All enemies are hit for physical damage.
- You can learn this from the Dragon Zombies in the Northern
Crater.

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ROULETTE COSTS 6 MP
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- When used, one friend or foe is randomly killed.
- Learn from the floating card-jesters (Death Dealer) in the
Northern Crater.
- You can control a Death Dealer.

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SHADOW FLARE COSTS 100 MP
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- When used, one foe is attacked and takes magic damage.
- Learn from the Ultimate Weapon (Disc 2 or 3), or from the
Dragon Zombies in the Northern Crater.
- The Ultimate Weapon will use this skill before dying, so just
concentrate on killing it in order to learn it.

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TRINE COSTS 20 MP
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- All targets are hit for lightning-based damage.
- Learn from Godo on the top floor of the pagoda in Wutai, or
from the red crab-like Stilves in Gaea's Cliff (Disc 2 only),
or from the spider-like Materia Keeper boss in the mountains
behind Nibelheim (Disc 1 only).

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WHITE WIND COSTS 34 MP
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- All allies will regain back lost HP depending on the current HP
of the caster. Everyone will also have their status ailments
cured.
- Learn from the white and green monsters (Zemzelett) in the
grassy area near Junon. You can also learn it from the winged
serpents (Wind Wing) if you're hit by a barrier in the Whirlwind
Maze (Disc 2 only).
- You can't learn this skill from a Zemzelett unless you manipulate
it.

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???? COSTS 3 MP
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- One enemy recieves non-elemental damage. The amount inflicted
is equal to the amount of damage the caster has recieved in
battle thus far.
- From the balance-like monsters (Jersey) in Nibelheim's Shinra
Mansion. You can also learn it from the purple Behemoths you
encounter when raiding Midgar (Disc 2 only). You can't learn
this skill unless you take damage from it.

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
04-14-2002, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Cloud
Yes but once again, you can only go there once. I mean some baddie that you can vs anytime.


No! You can go there anytime during the game.

PuRiKaH
04-14-2002, 03:35 PM
You can only fight him once though.

Agrias
04-14-2002, 04:01 PM
Seen???I was right about Laser effects!!!!!*Evil laugh*Thanx purikah

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
04-14-2002, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Purikah
You can only fight him once though.

What i'm trying to say is, you can always encounter certain monsters in the desert prison that can use Trine on you.