I was seeing Attack of the Show yesterday - Yes I know, but it does have it's moments. :p

ANYWAYS

During the loop, they talked about how Disney and Universal will stop showing people smoking in any of their films from now on, especially any movie that's teen related.
They also went into several points, these 2 were the most important:
- The industry should make any film that has people smoking rated R, that way teens won't be influenced by movies.
- To an extreme, ban smoking in films altogether.

My take on it, is that people will smoke regardless and this will hardly change any influences toward people. I don't believe in censorship of anything kind (storywise) if it's telling a story. Yes, smoking maybe insignificant, but it does show the character of certain characters. Also, how many people can actually say that they don't know one single smoker. During high stressful situations, what's more believable:

Someone lighting up a Cigarette?
Or
Someone chewing Gum?

What's next, no drug use? Drinking? Bad Words? :eye:
Did you know that Movies automatically get and R rating for the use of Fuck? :notgood:

THIS POST RATED R FOR HARSH LANGUAGE AND NUDITY

















That's fucking stupid.

THIS MOVIE IS RATED R FOR SMOKING AND DRINKING.













































Also f*cking stupid.

OH NO, SMOKING IN MOVIES MAKES PEOPLE DO IT IN REAL LIFE!!!

seriously go fuck yourselves.

Jill started smoking cause TV and movie stars do it... and now shes dead...









:P They just need to bring back Joe Camel, at least he gave cartoon characters a good name, and started a generation smoking in style ^_^

THIS MOVIE IS RATED R FOR NUDITY THAT LASTS FOR 3 SECONDS IN A TWO HOUR FILM, AND THAT SOMEHOW CONSTITUTES AN R RATING OVERALL!

Dun dun dun-n-n.

I don't care, I don't like the censorship but I'm not going to bitch and moan because characters won't be smoking on screen or whatever.

And no, movies don't get rated R for the use of "fuck" if it's only in there once or twice. One f-bomb is not an automatic R rating.

There are a crapload of f-bombs in Quiz Show and it's only PG-13, I think you can get away with it a lot if there's not much else objectionable in the movie.

Merl really did start smoking because of movies (Independence Day), but I still think banning it would be ridiculous. It seems so nanny-state.

I watched Breathless the other day and they smoke like 400 cigarettes in this one scene it was so hot

don't ban it

I think it would be pointless to ban smoking in movies. I can imagine Disney taking a moral stand at not having it in there movies, but any general movie shouldn't be a big deal.

I watched Breathless the other day and they smoke like 400 cigarettes in this one scene it was so hot

don't ban it

Oh man that movie is amazing. Jean Seberg is :swoon:

Not that this makes me support a ban or anything, but honestly it has actually bothered me sometimes when watching a movie where every single character is smoking the whole time. It's distracting sometimes for me, I don't know why. I think smoking is really gross in general, maybe that's all there is to it, I don't know.

Oh man that movie is amazing. Jean Seberg is :swoon:

God yes, and Jean-Paul Belmondo has the sexiest lips ever!

Won't banning it just make it look rebelliously cooler?

I guess banning the image of smoking is easier than raising awareness of the harms of smoking

lol, that's ridiculous.
"Oh no that guy's smoking in this movie, we must censor it!"
and why stop there? why not ban it in books too!

and if people really get influenced by movies in that way, then they should ban explosions to reduce terrorism.

it's all so very retarded.

they should ban paper too then, as this gives people the idea of using rollup cigs and this influences them to smoke themselves to death.

this sort of thing really is pretty influential in terms of people starting smoking. very few people do it consciously, but the general associations with smoking (and a hell of a lot of other things) are heavily influenced by the media.

[ftr, this is exactly why you can't show anyone drinking beer in a beer commercial. they can only show you opening it, pouring it, etc.]

everyone thinks they're never influenced by the media but everyone is to some extent to another. it can be the extreme cases, like when suicide rates rise dramatically nationwide when a highly publicized celebrity suicide occurred recently, or it can be something significantly more subtle, such as the sexual scripts we have embedded pretty deeply. people know what french kissing looks like, they know that generally comes before undressing. they know that the guy makes the initial moves in the far majority of situations. how would people have any preconceived notions of any of these without the influence of the media?

anyway, I think banning it is ridiculous, but I'd have no problem at all with it being an instant-R kind of thing.

Any censorship of smoking is idiotic....there are much more harmful things than smoking in the world,for instance people shooting at other people is deadlier and probably more harmful than a cig yet no one atempts to censor these things....cartoons and video games made mostly for children are also filled with agression but people arent worried if their kids are gonna grow up to be violent wife-beaters,but they cant bear the thought of them becoming smokers one day...You can see people smoking on the streets everyday so why the hell should it be wrong if you see them on TV?And if your mind is especially vulnerable and open to what you see on TV says youre screwed anyway,it doesnt matter if youll start smoking cause then youll probably become brain-washed,or a killer,or attempt suicide so fuck censorship instead of trying to incease smoking awareness they just try to hide it from people...

The question should probably be re-phrased as "should the industry ban smoking in American movies". French, Korean, Iranian (etc) film-makers won't be cutting it from their films any time soon. It seems like such a sop to the people who watch films solely in the hope of being able to organise a boycott should they find anything objectionable. The MPAA is a bad joke anyway: This Film is Not Yet Rated should be mandatory viewing for anyone interested in these issues.

One of the main reasons I gave up smoking (a lot) was that I finally accepted that I would never, ever be as cool as Tony Leung Chiu-wai in, well, any of his films. A Lucky Strike was not going to make up the difference.

i hate cigerettes but they are part of everyday life and are visible every day in every walks of life.

weather it`s the rich elite who crack a smoke or the seady mob guys, it`s part of their culture and movies are mirrors of our culture.

Banning cigarettes in movies? Then what the hell are Vincent and Juels gonna do from now on? Suck on straws?

I don't really understand how anybody can be influenced by those kinds of things. I would understand if they said that smoking would be a health issue to the other audience members, but from what I've heard, smokers are already losing more and more places to smoke legally. Eventually if this keeps happening, smokers might end up only being able to smoke in their own homes. But since I'm not a smoker I don't really care anyway.

smoking has been pretty much "banned" from american movies these days anyway, when was the last time you saw just a random character smoke, unless its to show that they are particularly evil...itd pretty stupid though

The last straw for me was Die Hard 4.0, the fact that John McCain was bald, didn't smoke or say 'fuck' every other word was partially salavaged with the fact that Willis wanted to do all his own stunts.

Yes people are influenced by movies, but if you start to mimic them and get addicted to the substance, it's your own damn fault. Addiction is not a disease, it's a choice.

Case in point? Myself where I smoked half a pack a day for almost a year and then went cold turkey, have yet to have a lit cigerette in my mouth for over 3 years now.

Do I get cravings? Yes, do I give into them? No.

I think its pointless, if they are going to ban smoking in movies as it influences people to smoke, what about when films show people eating a Big Mac or Whopper - doesn't that influence obesity??

I think if its really needed in a movie so I think it should not be banned besides that even in real life you can see loads of people smoking