thesmaunk
08-29-2007, 12:39 AM
this game has great story... great soundtrack... so why not if square makes FFIX as a movie... i'm sure many fans will be surprise, what do you think?.. for the title i prefer "Final Fantasy IX : The Gaia War"... or "FFIX : Kuja's Return" or "FFIX:Vivi's Destiny" ... any suggestion??

Mario Kinnikuman
08-29-2007, 01:05 AM
After this, no. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Movie)

Directly to DVD like Advent Children could work, though.

Espanha
08-29-2007, 08:56 AM
The Spirits Within was a fucking good movie, so much better than AC in... everything! AC made me fall asleep on two non-consecutive occasions.

hahaha "Vivi's Destiny"? "Kuja's Return"? Man, do your titles suck.

Sobye
08-29-2007, 08:56 AM
FFIX is a brilliant game, and should be left as it is, not stretched and milked to the limit like FFVII. And The Spirits Within was a great movie, in contrast to Advent Children.

MorgothErmis
08-29-2007, 10:10 AM
why

Mario Kinnikuman
08-29-2007, 11:20 PM
I was skeptic about Spirits Within when I first saw previews of it, considering that most Video Game adaptations released in theaters end up as fiascoes, with few exceptions, and upon learning that Spirits Within singlehandedly bankrupt Square Pictures confirmed my doubts.

They should of played it safe, and released it to DVD instead, maybe it wouldn't of been such a failure. The radical depature from the heart was obviously the downfall of the film, like so for Super Mario Bros. and Doom.

Commercially speaking, if anything Advent Children can prove for the Final Fantasy films, it's that it's safer to stay close to the source.

Espanha
08-30-2007, 12:17 AM
One of the reasons (and one of the most asinine) it was a "failure" was because almost every single person who watched it was expecting something like FFVII. When they got a good film, with a decent plot and effects to die for, they were disappointed. I'm not making this up; I watched the movie three times in theaters and, after it was over, I would hear no less than 5 people complain how it wasn't like VII. And this before I even got to the lobby.

The thought actually came to me as well but then I thought "if every FF game is similar, yet different from its predecessor, why can't a movie based on the games be the same?".

To my mind, there was no "radical departure" from the heart. It was a magical world intertwined with a sci-fi setting like FFVI (one of the best, if not the best, games in the series) and indeed, FFVII.

AC, on the other hand, was successful because it delivered what millions of rabid fans wanted: some new shots of Sephiroth's ass. The film was horrible. Between the exaggerated zooms during a battle that didn't let you catch any decent action and the stupid fucking milking of a game that should be left alone, I fell asleep. Twice. On different occasions. That's how great the film is. And I'm a fan of VII. I quite like the game, so my opinion is not biased against AC. It's just that terrible.

As stated in countless other threads and posts, the series did not start with VII, so AC was only closer to VII and VII alone. There was no staying closer to the source. It was a CG sequel to a game that's 7th in a series currently numbering 12 (main) titles and countless spin-offs.

Hynad
08-30-2007, 12:32 AM
FF VII Advent Children has a pretty bad story, character interactions etc...

But the coolness of its action scenes and the quality of its CGs make me wanna come back to it and watch it again...


... in background.

Hawkeye_1138
08-31-2007, 03:45 AM
i also fell asleep watching AC in japanese when i first saw it


there should be no Final Fantasy Ix movie. best Final Fantasy should be left alone

Draven
08-31-2007, 09:25 AM
i also fell asleep watching AC in japanese when i first saw it


there should be no Final Fantasy Ix movie. best Final Fantasy should be left alone



fell asleep? come on man!

Hawkeye_1138
09-05-2007, 12:44 AM
it was in japanese and before i played the game

Tag of Fire
09-05-2007, 09:04 PM
I really want them to make a movie out of FFIX but if they fuck up the storyline or extend it and do a terrible job then no thank you. More game FMVs could do. ^^

Hawkeye_1138
09-06-2007, 12:58 AM
it would be better to let a good game be left alone instead of giving them a reason to fuck it up

Lindaru
10-20-2007, 09:27 AM
Yes..that so true Hawkeye_1138,so true

FF9 is the best FF ever and always will be best...

My first FF game =) so no movie about this..ok?

Zulu
10-20-2007, 02:15 PM
FFIX is a brilliant game, and should be left as it is, not stretched and milked to the limit like FFVII. And The Spirits Within was a great movie, in contrast to Advent Children.
Truer words have never been uttered.

FFIX is my favorite, but I'd much rather have a movie about FFVI.

TM
10-20-2007, 02:31 PM
After AC? hell no, and as far as spirits within go, it had nothing to do with any aspect of any FF game other than some name tie ins and something to do with Gaia, AC was absoloute crap but atleast it had a story based on an actual FF game.

Leave FFIX as it is.

Espanha
10-20-2007, 03:09 PM
nd as far as spirits within go, it had nothing to do with any aspect of any FF game other than some name tie ins and something to do with Gaia, AC was absoloute crap but atleast it had a story based on an actual FF game.

Isn't that like saying FFX is not a FF game because it had nothing to do with the first FF, except for a few name tie-ins, as well?

I mean, why the hell should Spirits Within follow a plot straight out of one of the games, if the games never did follow one another? It was a stand-alone feature, with its own characters and story.

AC, on the other hand, did follow a story from an actual FF game because it was meant as a sequel.

You can hate TSW all you want, who am I to judge, but if your reason for it is that the film does not follow a storyline out of the games, then you probably should keep your mouth shut.

TM
10-20-2007, 04:37 PM
I think it should of had something to do with a FF game in the first place, I woudn't say this if the movie wasn't bad in the first place, TSW was soo bad it sank the entire production company, and probably because it had hardly anything to do with any aspect of any final fantay game.

Espanha
10-20-2007, 04:58 PM
Many great movies didn't have exacly stellar perfomances in the box offices, but I agree: TSW was a flop. It does not exactly mean it's a horrible or even bad movie, though. That's up to each viewer to decide for himself.

Your argument that TSW it had nothing to do with a FF game doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Why should it? It's a movie based on the series, not a particular game in it.

Were you expecting a character from the games? A storyline from the games? Then you were doomed to hate the film before it even left post-production. TSW was never meant as a sequel to any of the games, keeping in with the tradition that the FF games never directly followed one another. Some of the familiar references were there but that was it. It was a story in its own right, with its own characters.

I repeat: if your sole reason for thinking it's a bad film is that it didn't follow a storyline from a specific game, you have no valid reason at all, I'm sorry to say.

TM
10-20-2007, 05:12 PM
I have plenty of other reasons to hate TSW, the story line was boring and the charecters were forgettable, although the animation was incredible, I actually spent the first 5 mins of the film wondering whether the charecters were real or not (I was like 8 so be easy on me for this one!) you say it was better than AC? no they were both utterly as crap as each other, and a FF movie should never, ever be attempted until the end of time.

feralanima
10-20-2007, 08:22 PM
As said before, there should be no film of FF IX, it was my fav game of the series thus far and should not be ruined by a movie. Besides what would the movie be about? Kuja's dead, Vivi's dead, you'd only ruin it to go on about Necron, the romance between any of the characters or how the kingdoms rebuilt after their destruction. Sometimes it's best to leave it as it is and let your imagination run wild with what you think should happen because we dont all want the same thing to happen as the person beside us does, and to give finality like that would just be a waste.

Zulu
10-20-2007, 10:43 PM
A Quina cooking program?

I agree, I dont' see what they could make the movie about.

Mr E. Stalker
10-20-2007, 11:24 PM
I hated both movies. I liked AC better because Tifa was hot in it. Big boobs<3

MorgothErmis
10-20-2007, 11:32 PM
wait.
i remember seeing this stupid thread again. Yeah I was right.
Apart from that, why would anyone want to see another FF9 movie than the game's FMVs? The game was great and that's it.

Draven
10-21-2007, 11:32 AM
wait.
i remember seeing this stupid thread again. Yeah I was right.
Apart from that, why would anyone want to see another FF9 movie than the game's FMVs? The game was great and that's it.

here here

Agent0042
10-23-2007, 03:55 PM
A Quina cooking program?
This is the only FFIX movie I would pay to watch. Bring Eiko in and have cameo appearances by the rest of the characters, including Kuja, featuring character-specific recipes. Have a "Foods Around Gaia" segment featuring worldwide cuisine.

I am only half-joking.

Roxas20
11-06-2007, 09:56 PM
Oh god...Spirits Within...Are you TRYING to make me fall over and die? Now Advent Children was wonderfully done...

Hmm... Final Fantasy IX on DVD... That's a tough one...It depends if they decide NOT to chibiize it like they did the game, and give it GOOD voice actors, who don't overact and all that.

But, FF9: Kuja's Return...??? WTH....

May I remind you that Kuja turned good in the end, when he finally realized all the stuff he did and how he screwed up...seriously...

So, it wouldn't be Kuja this time around...Possibly Garland...He was still a psychopath even when Kuja kicked him off the cliff to his doom. (Best scene ever in FF9, btw)...

And a movie centering around Vivi...? Nah. Don't think so.

Hawkeye_1138
11-06-2007, 10:49 PM
Final Fantasy IX tied up 99% of the loose ends at the end of the game so there would be no need to make a movie about it in order to tie up loose ends...which was why they made AC: to show you what happened t othe world after meteorfall(which was a loose end/cliff hanger drop off to the game)...

Espanha
11-07-2007, 12:09 AM
Oh god...Spirits Within...Are you TRYING to make me fall over and die? Now Advent Children was wonderfully done...

hahaha everytime someone like you is born, God snaps his fingers and curses His mistake.

Agent0042
11-07-2007, 12:10 AM
Every time they post, an angel loses its wings.

Espanha
11-07-2007, 12:15 AM
Garland...He was still a psychopath even when Kuja kicked him off the cliff to his doom.

Also disagree with this. Garland was never crazy. He knew exactly what he was doing and for what purpose.

Prak
11-07-2007, 12:44 AM
Oh god...Spirits Within...Are you TRYING to make me fall over and die? Now Advent Children was wonderfully done...

Adding my voice to the list of those mocking this idiot.

Sobye
11-07-2007, 06:35 PM
Oh god...Spirits Within...Are you TRYING to make me fall over and die? Now Advent Children was wonderfully done...

This made me chuckle.

AuronTheMaster
11-08-2007, 11:29 AM
This is definitely one of those posts that makes me hate people who debate about each others' opinions.

Final Fantasy IX was a good game. Final Fantasy VII was a good game. They just happened to make a sequel to VII. It seemed like a popular title and alot of people loved it, and there were also people that hated it.

Either way, my opinion would to leave the Final Fantasy games in their consoles and watch the producers of the new Castlevania movie fail and I can laugh at them! HAHAHA!

Roxas20
11-27-2007, 04:36 PM
I still say Spirits Within sucked. And there is NO way that a FFIX movie will be made, unless a HUGE amount of petitions overcome the Kingdom Hearts 3 petition, Final Fantasy X-3 petition, and the petition to ressurect Aeris in the next FFVII prequel or FFVII movie...

Prak
11-27-2007, 04:38 PM
Anyone who can say that Spirits Within sucked and Advent Children was wonderful has no credibility, so it doesn't matter what you think. We all know that you're wrong.

Roxas20
11-27-2007, 04:41 PM
whatever. Everyone has their opinion...

Prak
11-27-2007, 04:42 PM
And you're entitled to that, even if it does make you look like a fucking retard.

Roxas20
11-27-2007, 04:44 PM
language...language... mind you, you're speaking to a female...

Prak
11-27-2007, 05:03 PM
So?

TM
11-27-2007, 05:15 PM
Hey, do you give good head Roxas20?

Roxas20
11-27-2007, 05:59 PM
jerk

*leaves*

Espanha
11-27-2007, 08:27 PM
language...language... mind you, you're speaking to a female...

My fishmonger is female and the air turn blue around her. The fact you need to sit down to take a piss has nothing to do with the sounds produced by your tongue, teeth, vocal chords and jaw movements.

Also, you women are always harping about equal treatment. Now that you're getting it, suck it up and shut the fuck up, please.

FF1WithAllThieves
11-27-2007, 08:34 PM
This is really some of the milder language on the forum anyway.

Hawkeye_1138
11-27-2007, 09:36 PM
Wow...this makes me chuckle even though it's slightly sexist

KaMoDiAn
11-28-2007, 06:22 AM
whatever. Everyone has their opinion...

...and skipping back to the discussion.

I'd suggest you to go back and take a look at both the films as... films.

When I first saw the trailer for the 'Spirits Within' movie, I thought: "hmm. That looks neat, it must be coincidental that the title matches a title of a game series... or not."

What you have to see is that 'Spirits Within' was a stand alone story, and it was an original piece of work that was delivered amazingly under the FF title (probably for either shameless/convenient promotion of their games or because it was recognizable). It was actiony, dramatic, an early CG pioneer, ...

SW delivered slightly more than what I expected from it... which is really good in my opinion.

Now look at 'Advent Children', a familiar story that has been overanalyzed followed by an overhyped movie. When you compare the substance, this movie barely made expectations. There wasn't anything really new that anyone didn't expect. Albeit, I do believe the choreography was well done - but this is expected from any animator familiar with action sequences.

So... give them both a second glance before you start hating on something people like only to praise some other piece of work.

---
Also, FFIX movie? Where did that come from? Though, I think if there is to be a third FF movie, they should introduce more magic use. FF9 certainly had a charm to it, but I think a fresh story would be nice.

GT_Stevo
11-28-2007, 08:44 AM
I still say Spirits Within sucked. And there is NO way that a FFIX movie will be made, unless a HUGE amount of petitions overcome the Kingdom Hearts 3 petition, Final Fantasy X-3 petition, and the petition to ressurect Aeris in the next FFVII prequel or FFVII movie...

Add my name to the Spirits Within sucked list. The characters are what did it for me. Not a single dude with a sword or epic qualities of a hero... Note that in every FF, the main character wields a sword or has distinguishing, hero-like qualities that we often see in Greek and Roman epics. At the very least, AC had memorable action and broad characters, even if the majority of people on here don't like the supporting cast and/or storyline.

FFIX doesn't need to be tampered with. FFX-2 and the FFVII compilation has taught us that (a) Tetsuya Nomura should NOT be directing and should've stayed as the concept artist, and (b) continuing the story only makes things complicating and pisses off the fans.

If anything, make FFVI into a two season, 52 episode running anime. I'd support that.

KaMoDiAn
11-29-2007, 05:15 AM
no serious anime fan would pick up a 52 episode FF series after the early attempts and the increasing amounts of shows coming out every quarter (especially the spring seasons).

and... self sacrifice isn't an epic hero quality? You must have a sword to be a hero? Jesus carries a gunblade? awesome.

GT_Stevo
11-29-2007, 09:54 AM
Now that you mention it, Jesus, despite how much of a pacifist he was, does have traits of the stereotypical hero.

It would've been kind of cool (and a heck of a plot twist), had Jesus whip out a divine gunblade and trash the Romans in the garden of Gesemeni... The symbol for Christianity would be the gunblade in place of the cross. Go fig...

And why not have a 52-ep running FFVI series? One of the underlying problems with the FF movies was that they were too short and didn't have time to explain the plot in a likable way. (Suspense has to build up so that the climax to the show is nothing short of phenomenal). A long-running anime, if done by the proper studio, could turn out to be more of a success than any movie has been. (The only exception here is FF Unlimited. I don't know who was in charge of that embarrassment, but that's another rant for another post...)

FFVI is more than long enough to where the second season can begin when the floating continent crashes and the party is separated. Like all great anime, there will be goofy side-quests that add humor to the show before the final confrontation with the antagonist.

Hawkeye_1138
11-29-2007, 08:57 PM
Jesus carries a gunblade? awesome.



If he did, I would go to his church

Sobye
11-29-2007, 09:01 PM
It would've been kind of cool (and a heck of a plot twist), had Jesus whip out a divine gunblade and trash the Romans in the garden of Gesemeni... The symbol for Christianity would be the gunblade in place of the cross. Go fig...


This kind of Bible I'd stand for.

Hawkeye_1138
11-29-2007, 09:07 PM
This kind of Bible I'd stand for.

Mr E. Stalker
11-29-2007, 09:55 PM
If Jesus was a fucking "kill 'em all, then I'll sort 'em out" barbarian fighter motherfucker, yeah, I'd absolutely believe in Him. But I have heard so much shit about the dude that I dunno what's right or wrong about him anymore.

Agent0042
11-29-2007, 11:02 PM
This thread is already a revived thread and is coming close to spinning dangerously off-topic. Either discuss reasoning for having an FFIX movie or not, etc., or prepare for closage.

Mr E. Stalker
11-30-2007, 12:05 AM
Eh, go ahead and close it, we've already given reasons why it won't be a good choice.

Agent0042
11-30-2007, 03:34 AM
:) LOL. Sounds good to me...