TrueLugia121
08-03-2007, 05:14 PM
Okay fer those of you who haven't yet got a copy of this book i have found the two forms of Sephiroth and the Secret WEAPONs' true stats in the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega Guide. just beware though that i can only make out the HP, MP and AP bits, the rest i can't read so bare with me. i'll see if i could scan the repective pages if anyone hast to make a request for them and if possible someone with good knowledge of Japanese can come over and translate for us. they are:


Emerald WEAPON:

Main:
Level: 99
HP: 1,000,000
MP: 100
AP: 50,000

Target A and Target B:
Level: 50
HP: 25,000
MP: 100
AP: 0


Ruby WEAPON:


Main:
Leval: 59
HP: 800000
MP: 2560
AP: 50,000


Tentacle A and Tentacle B

Level: 37
HP 40,000
MP: 1000
AP: 0



Bizzaro-Sephiroth

Level: 61
HP: 40,000
MP: 400


Safer-Sephiroth

Level: 70
HP: 80,000
MP: 680


now if you guys think i'm confused you can go ahead and say it if you guys feel like it. i actually got those stats straight off that book (and i even had it shipped in yesterday).

TrueLugia121
08-03-2007, 05:25 PM
sorry for double post but just to make things clear i suppose 20-60% of the population of Final Fantasy 7 Players are not aware of those stats and probably took it upon themselves to calculate Sephiroth's two forms' HP based on level.

now if i have to do a bit of calculating myself, if your main party members are around Levels 30-50, it may be that Bizarro- might have around 20,000 to roughly about 35,000 HP amd Safer- might have between 40,000 to 60,000.
most FAQS on GameFaqs and other fan-made game guide communities might see this differently. it depends on how strong your characters are going into those two forms. i could take a guess at this might be the case as well with Jenova-SYNTHESIS.


if anyone has any calculations on those three enemies i've mentioned above , feel free to post them here as well. like i said, i've posted the true stats taken from the Ultimania, BUT, BUT, there is a BUT :) , that's just in the Developer's point-of-view. if there are any calculations in the point-of-view of Final Fantasy 7 Gamers, feel free to post them here as well.

Argus Zephyrus
08-03-2007, 05:55 PM
I've seen them on other websites years ago when I was playing FFVII. I could have sworn that Ruby WEAPON's HP was estimated at 1000000 as well, not that it would make too much difference. I fought Sephiroth's forms with all my characters being between levels 65-72 (Cloud being 75).

Dugu Wudi
08-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Ruby Weapon

Level: 59
HP: 800,000-850,000
MP: 2560
Attack: 100
Defence: 480
Magic: 200
Magic Def: 500
Dexterity: 253
Evade: 100
AP: 50,000
EXP: 45,000
Gil: 3000

Emerald Weapon

Level: 99
HP: 1,000,000
MP: 100
Attack: 180
Defence: 180
Magic: 180
Magic Def: 180
Dexterity: 230
Evade: 1
AP: 50,000
EXP: 50,000
Gil 50,000

Bizarro Sephiroth

Level: 61
HP (Total): 60,000 (180,000)
MP: 400
Attack: 210
Defence: 200
Magic: 144
Magic Def: 200
Dexterity: 100
Evade: 1

Bizarro Sephiroth's base stats are listed in the table, valid for the one party battle and the main battles for two or three parties. Each part has its own HP:

Main Body = 40000
Head = 2000
Core = 10000
Right Magic = 4000
Left Magic = 4000
These max HP may change depending on some variables, :

Main Body HP = 40000 + 5000 for each character at L99 + 60000 if Knights of the Round was used on Jenova SYNTHESIS
Head HP = 2000 + 250 for each character at L99
Core HP = 10000 + 1250 for each character at L99
Right Magic HP = 4000 + 500 for each character at L99
Left Magic HP = 4000 + 500 for each character at L99
Aeris Gainsborough is not counted as a character even though she had L99.

Considering all these, Bizarro Sephiroth's total maximum HP is 180000.

Safer Sephiroth

Level: 87
HP: 80,000 (400,000)
MP: 6800
Attack: 230(266)
Defence: 100(260)
Magic: 100(140)
Magic Def: 180(308)
Dexterity: 160
Evade: 1

Safer Sephiroth's base stats are listed in the table, but they change depending on many variables:

- Each character at Level 99 (not counting Aerith) adds 30,000 Max HP, 2 Attack, 20 Def, 5 Magi and 16 MDef
- Casting Knights of the Round on Jenova SYNTHESIS adds 80,000 Max HP
- Any time Bizarro Sephiroth's head was killed reduces 100 Max HP up to a maximum reduction of 24,900 HP
- Considering all these, Safer Sephiroth's maximum stats (within brackets in the table) are:

400,000 Max HP, 246 Attack, 260 Defense, 140 Magic Defense and 308 Magic Defense

Source: Final Fantasy Wiki

TrueLugia121
08-03-2007, 09:26 PM
here's one that i've recently found:


credit goes to SinirothX a GameFAQs poster


================================================== =============================
- BOSS: JENOVA-SYNTHESIS, SUB-BOSS: <HAND B>, SUB-BOSS: <HAND C> -
================================================== =============================

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- BOSS: JENOVA-SYNTHESIS -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Monster's Name: Jenova-SYNTHESIS
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 60000 / 0*
* - if Jenova-SYNTHESIS uses Ultima on your party
-> AP for Defeating: 500
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 60000
-> Monster's MP: 600
-> Att, Def, Df%, Dex, MAt, MDf, Luck
150, 100, 1, 120, 120, 180, 0
80* 150**
* - lowers to this amount while <Hand B> is under KO
** - lowers to this amount while <Hand C> is under KO
-> Fire (normal), Ice (normal), Lightning (normal), Earth (immune), Poison
(absorb), Gravity (immune), Water (normal), Wind (normal), Holy (normal)
-> Immune: Poison, Silence, Sleep, Slow, Stop, Confusion, Paralysis,
Petrification, Berserk, Frog, Small, Slow-Numb, Seizure, Haste, Peerless,
Manipulation, Death Sentence, Death



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- SUB-BOSS: <HAND B> -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Monster's Name: Hand B (actually called Jenova-SYNTHESISB by the game)
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return)
(Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle) (forced)
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 500
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 10000
-> Monster's MP: 600
-> Att, Def, Df%, Dex, MAt, MDf, Luck
150, 100, 1, 120, 120, 180, 0
-> Fire (normal), Ice (normal), Lightning (normal), Earth (immune), Poison
(absorb), Gravity (immune), Water (normal), Wind (normal), Holy (normal)
-> Immune: Poison, Silence, Sleep, Slow, Stop, Confusion, Paralysis,
Petrification, Berserk, Frog, Small, Slow-Numb, Seizure, Haste, Peerless,
Manipulation, Death Sentence, Death




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- SUB-BOSS: <HAND C> -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Monster's Name: Hand C (actually called Jenova-SYNTHESISC by the game)
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return)
(Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle) (forced)
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 500
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 8000
-> Monster's MP: 600
-> Att, Def, Df%, Dex, MAt, MDf, Luck
150, 100, 1, 120, 120, 180, 0
-> Fire (normal), Ice (normal), Lightning (normal), Earth (immune), Poison
(absorb), Gravity (immune), Water (normal), Wind (normal), Holy (normal)
-> Immune: Poison, Silence, Sleep, Slow, Stop, Confusion, Paralysis,
Petrification, Berserk, Frog, Small, Slow-Numb, Seizure, Haste, Peerless,
Manipulation, Death Sentence, Death




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (SINGLE PARTY BATTLE) -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-> Monster's Name: Bizarro-Sephiroth
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
- To fight the single party version of Bizarro-Sephiroth at least one of the
following must be true:
a) Your party's average level must be less than or equal to 53; Vincent
and/or Yuffie will only be included if they've been obtained
b) At least one character's level is less than or equal to 34
c) Jenova-SYNTHESIS had more than 12 turns before the Countdown to Ultima
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 0
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 60000 / 40000*
* - 60000 is the base amount for Bizarro Sephiroth; 40000 is the actual amount
for the single party battle

- Main Body receives 5000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99
- Main Body receives 60000 HP if you used Knights of the Round in the
Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle **
- The other parts of Bizarro-Sephiroth's HP are as such:
Head = 2000 (Head receives 250 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Core = 10000 (Core receives 1250 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Left Magic = 4000 (Left Magic receives 500 HP for every character in your party
at lvl 99)
Right Magic = 4000 (Right Magic receives 500 HP for every character in your
party at lvl 99)



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (DOUBLE PARTY VERSION) -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (RIGHT SIDE) ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-> Monster's Name: Bizarro-Sephiroth
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
- To fight the double party version of Bizarro-Sephiroth at least one of the
following must be true:
a) Your party's average level must be less than or equal to 67
b) At least one character's level is less than or equal to 44
c) Either or both Yuffie and Vincent must not be in your party
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 0
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 60000 / 40000*
* - 60000 is the base amount for Bizarro Sephiroth; 40000 is the actual amount
for the right side of the double party battle

- Main Body receives 5000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99
- Main Body receives 60000 HP if you used Knights of the Round in the
Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle **
- The other parts of Bizarro-Sephiroth's HP are as such:
Head = 2000 (Head receives 250 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Core = 14000 (Core receives 1750 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Right Shoulder = 6000 (Right Shoulder receives 750 HP for every character in
your party at lvl 99)
Right Arm = 4000 (Right Arm receives 500 HP for every character in your party
at lvl 99)

** - Main Body can also mean Bizarro-Sephiroth itself, as it is the main part
of the boss that acts



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (LEFT SIDE) ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-> Monster's Name: Bizarro-Sephiroth
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
- To fight the double party version of Bizarro-Sephiroth at least one of the
following must be true:
a) Your party's average level must be less than or equal to 67
b) At least one character's level is less than or equal to 44
c) Either or both Yuffie and Vincent must not be in your party
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 0
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 60000 / 35000*
* - 60000 is the base amount for Bizarro Sephiroth; 35000 is the actual amount
for the left side of the double party battle

- Main Body receives 5000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99 **
- The other parts of Bizarro-Sephiroth's HP are as such:
Head = 2000 (Head receives 250 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Core = 12000 (Core receives 1500 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Left Shoulder = 6000 (Right Shoulder receives 750 HP for every character in
your party at lvl 99)
Left Arm = 4000 (Left Arm receives 500 HP for every character in your party
at lvl 99)



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (TRIPLE PARTY BATTLE) -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (CENTER) ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-> Monster's Name: Bizarro-Sephiroth
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
- To fight the triple party version of Bizarro-Sephiroth all of the following
must be true:
a) Your party's average level must be greater than or equal to 68
b) At least one character's level is greater than or equal to 45
c) Both Yuffie and Vincent are in your party
d) Jenova-SYNTHESIS had less than or equal to 12 turns before Countdown to
Ultima
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 0
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 60000 / 40000*
* - 60000 is the base amount for Bizarro Sephiroth; 40000 is the actual amount
for the center of the triple party battle

- Main Body receives 5000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99
- Main Body receives 60000 HP if you used Knights of the Round in the
Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle **
- The other parts of Bizarro-Sephiroth's HP are as such:
Head = 2000 (Head receives 250 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Core = 16000 (Core receives 2000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Left Magic = 6000 (Left Magic receives 750 HP for every character in your party
at lvl 99)
Right Magic = 4000 (Right Magic receives 500 HP for every character in your
party
at lvl 99)




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (RIGHT SIDE) ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-> Monster's Name: Bizarro-Sephiroth
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
- To fight the triple party version of Bizarro-Sephiroth all of the following
must be true:
a) Your party's average level must be greater than or equal to 68
b) At least one character's level is greater than or equal to 45
c) Both Yuffie and Vincent are in your party
d) Jenova-SYNTHESIS had less than or equal to 12 turns before Countdown to
Ultima
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 0
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 60000 / 35000*
* - 60000 is the base amount for Bizarro Sephiroth; 35000 is the actual amount
for the right side of the triple party battle

- Main Body receives 4000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99
Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle **
- The other parts of Bizarro-Sephiroth's HP are as such:
Head = 2000 (Head receives 250 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Core = 12000 (Core receives 1500 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Right Shoulder = 8000 (Right Shoulder receives 1000 HP for every character in
your party at lvl 99)
Right Arm = 6000 (Right Arm receives 750 HP for every character in your party
at lvl 99)



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ BOSS: BIZARRO-SEPHIROTH (LEFT SIDE) ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-> Monster's Name: Bizarro-Sephiroth
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
- To fight the triple party version of Bizarro-Sephiroth all of the following
must be true:
a) Your party's average level must be greater than or equal to 68
b) At least one character's level is greater than or equal to 45
c) Both Yuffie and Vincent are in your party
d) Jenova-SYNTHESIS had less than or equal to 12 turns before Countdown to
Ultima
-> Monster's Level: 61
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 0
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 60000 / 30000*
* - 60000 is the base amount for Bizarro Sephiroth; 30000 is the actual amount
for the right side of the triple party battle

- Main Body receives 3000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99
Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle **
- The other parts of Bizarro-Sephiroth's HP are as such:
Head = 2000 (Head receives 250 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Core = 12000 (Core receives 1500 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99)
Left Shoulder = 8000 (Left Shoulder receives 1000 HP for every character in
your party at lvl 99)
Left Arm = 6000 (Left Arm receives 750 HP for every character in your party
at lvl 99)



================================================== =============================
- BOSS: SAFER-SEPHIROTH -
================================================== =============================

-> Monster's Name: Safer-Sephiroth
-> Monster's Locations:
- North Crater - Core (final stages - after point of no return) (forced)
-> Monster's Level: 87
-> EXP for Defeating: 0
-> AP for Defeating: 0
-> Gil for Defeating: 0
-> Item Dropped from Monster: None
-> Item Stolen from Monster: None
-> Item Morphed from Monster: None
-> Monster's HP: 80000 (base)
- Safer-Sephiroth receives 30000 HP for every character in your party at lvl 99
- Safer-Sephiroth receives 80000 HP if you used Knights of the Round in the
Jenova-SYNTHESIS battle
-> Monster's MP: 680
-> Att, Def, Df%, Dex, MAt, MDf, Luck
230, 100, 1, 160, 100, 180, 0
+2* +20* +5* +16*
* - stats increase by this much for every character in your party at lvl 99
-> Fire (normal), Ice (normal), Lightning (normal), Earth (immune), Poison
(normal), Gravity (immune), Water (normal), Wind (normal), Holy (normal)
-> Immune: Poison, Silence, Sleep, Stop, Confusion, Paralysis, Petrification,
Berserk, Frog, Small, Slow-Numb, Seizure, Regen, Reflect, Peerless,
Manipulation, Death Sentence, Death



judging by these stats i belive his characters ere in the mid 65s hight 73s so i'm guessing he must've improved the health of all three of those three coming up to face them.

TrueLugia121
08-04-2007, 07:05 AM
bump

can anyone think up anymore calculations?