mine has to be "random", as I never know what I might lose second is "All", too risky for me. Which rule did you hate most?

Random definitely. Next would have to be Diff and Elemental.

Random Never bothered me...just saved me the trouble of going though certain cards. I never lost because of the rule.

My Most Hated Rules are All and Diff

Random, fo' shizzle. That it is favored at Trabia garden makes me sad. Such good things usually come from there... ;)

random was a pain... then i got rid of all thos shitty cards and only used like lvl 7 or 8 card and up, and it wasn't much of a problem.. I hated the combo ones.. Cuz i never payed attention, and then all of a sudden they would flip like 3 of my cards.

Random. I like Elemental.

I didn't really hate the trade rules Diff or All. Direct on the other hand was a real pain and I avoided it at all costs.

Random was my only problem, really.
The others just give the game a bit of variation, imo.

Is there a way to get rid of the random rule? I know it was mentioned in the game that you can abolish rules or whatnot, but I never knew how.

i would have to say all and face down i hate not being able to see what the person i am faceing is playing

Is there a way to get rid of the random rule? I know it was mentioned in the game that you can abolish rules or whatnot, but I never knew how.

Keep initiating a card game and canceling it out. Eventually "most'' of the rules will be abolished. It doesn't always work, but you can finesse your way out of a lot of rules if you're willing to put in the effort.

You can pay the Card Queen to spread certain rules but doing the above is usually easier. It works for me.

And if you use the old "Save and Reset if needed" trick. What you want to do is go play at a region that doesn't have the rule that you're trying to abolish and then head to that region. If I recall correctly, you offer to mix the rules and then cancel out after you actually get to the card game screen. If you're lucky, the unfavorable rule gets abolished. If instead you end up spreading a rule, or you go through the process so many times that the player stops suggesting to mix the rules, then you reset and try again.

And to avoid spreading rules in the first place, just keep refusing whenever the player offers to mix rules.

Well, yeah, Random was a pisser, no doubt about it. It's a rule for those whom were either: unfortunate enough to unknowingly play with/spread the rule themselves, testing their mettle, or just being indifferent and/or oblivious toward the joy of Triple Triad itself and the many rewards that come from playing. Since I've had the guide and aimed toward getting every single card, for the most part, that was a rule I've avoided.

As for Direct, I'm kind of shocked no one other than Agent put that down as one of their answers. With that rule, take into consideration a hand of Lv. 1 cards vs. a hand of Lv. 10 cards. Correct me if I'm wrong, but your opponent's mother****** Cockatrice Card could very well be the cause of you losing your Squall Card, even though you had won the match.

Conversely, Direct could be terrific for those whom wish to go against someone with a much better hand than theirs, and with no regard for their own cards, since hey, there's a chance you could walk away with cards which are superior to the ones you had come in with; if you happen to lose your entire hand, there's always the Card Mod ability you could fall back on when your deck is close to nil. Playing it that safe, it'll take more time with that method, though.

All was made of win.

I didn't really hate the trade rules Diff or All. Direct on the other hand was a real pain and I avoided it at all costs.

I can't believe i didn't remember direct, that rule was so frustrating

Randon was a bitch, also same/diff was annoying, i never played direct, but only the CC Group members ever used it, i just rematched them and they went back to diff or one =]

I don't think I can imagine anyone NOT saying Random. It wouldn't bother me at all if it wasn't one of Dollet's original rules. As long as it was ANYWHERE but Dollet, considering the fact that it makes the Queen of Cards sidequest impossible until you abolish it. Which is what I always spend hours trying to do.

Also, you guys hate Diff? I LOVE DIFF... gives you more cards, I can't see any reason to hate Diff whatsoever. Same and Plus are awesome as well, you just need to learn to take huge advantage of them. Hell, I once even challenged myself by using all lv1 cards in the Plus rule in a high place, and won! But I mean, its true that Same and Plus can be annoying if you don't watch out, but Diff? Please... that's probably the best one. Unless you actually lose, but... who actually loses?

Direct, however, is the worst rule ever.

Worst Rules are ,All and random

men they are anoiyng

I dislike random (like lots of others ;) ) but actually it can be fun to play random sometimes.... you only have to save befor you do so and then it can also really be fun (and challanging) to try to win without using your very best cards.

Direct is probably the worst one... even if you win in the end the potentiall loss of one of your cards could turn a victory into a miserable failure.

Oh and "All" is actually a good thing (if you win, of course) because to have lots and lots of cards means that you can change them into a wide range of different items also.... some really neat things, too.

All was the worst, unless i win of course

"Random" sucks, I never won a single game when it comes to that rule.

But I can't get why you lose it when it comes to "All".

Another rule that could sometimes be irritating was Sudden Death. I remember it was on by default at Fisherman's Horizon. With Sudden Death, if you drew the game, you were forced to keep playing until you either won or lost. Thing is, the rematch would take place with you playing whatever cards you were controlling on the board when the drawn match ended.

Random + Plus is the worst combination conceivable.

rrrrrrrrr random pissed me off for a bit, but now its all those combo thingys .. grr :(

i never got all the cards but my super cool cousin did (bastard.. lol)

Random is fine. I just card-mod all the useless ones so I'm left with boss/gf/player cards. Direct is THE worst evar. And I love all. I hardly ever lose. Plus and elemental are quite gay too.

I used to hate Random and Plus, but after playing TT online a while I've really started to like both. :p The problem with random in FF8 is when it doesn't come with any other rules, as Plus in particular helps in winning against higher level cards with a crappy hand.

Only rule I can think of now that I really don't like is the Direct trade rule. I always tried to play with All if possible, and actually found it pretty annoying when people reverted back to One by themselves...

The Same rule has caused me more grief than any other. I don't know how many times I've been up 7-2 on the CPU's last play only for them to pull off some bullshit combo and wind up beating me 9-1.

"Random" is wildly disadvantageous, until you throw away your worthless cards.

When you lose the "Open" rule, that is really disadvantageous, when you can't see your opponent's cards, and as such, you can't anticipate your opponent's moves. And sometimes, I think it's a tactic with which the game is less than honest; for all you know, it's using any card it possibly wants to trump your previous move.

"Direct" can be difficult, when you're going for a particular card, or when you don't want to lose a particular card.

As much as it might be human nature for one to think the "computer" could be cheating you when you're not playing with the Open rule, each player still has a set deck. Of course, the "computer" is still going to try to play whatever it feels is the best plays possible, I would think, regardless of whether not Open is active.

Random!

This is probably the most common answer but I will go with random. When you have a lot of cards it's a pain if you get all low level cards to play with. I'm not very willing to get rid of those not so good cards either, I just like to have one of every card at all times.

random and direct together. Screws me up all the time even with my superior deck

Random + Plus is the worst combination conceivable.

You must be kidding. As long as there is a Random rule, Plus is the one thing that make Random a bit more tolerable because you can try to go for the available plusses. Of course, better hope there's open so you can avoid the opponent's plusses, but then again if there isn't, it won't know how to stop you from doing it.

Random with Direct, on the other hand, will always be the worst combination.


Ha, last time I played this game, whenever I'd gotten to an area with "Random" as a rule, I'd save and keep playing and resetting 'till Random was abolished.


BTW, what does "Same Wall" do? I could never figure it out.

Random, and only during the Queen of Cards sidequest when you were supposed to lose a specific card, only to lose the game, have her collect THE WRONG FREAKING CARD, and take off to one of like, six different locations.

Didn't you just do (Card she wants), and four weak cards?

Me, it's Random. The only good thing was that I got the Selphie card from it.

Didn't you just do (Card she wants), and four weak cards?
Random, mary_sonnie said. She couldn't just choose four weak cards because Random chose the cards for her.

Oops. Hehe. ^.^'

Couldn't you have tried abolishing it?

I just hated how easy it was to spread unpleasant card rules throughout the world if you weren't careful. Asking people multiple times until they agreed to less rules certainly helped. "Ooh, I've never seen that rule before!" was not a good sign.

Easy solution:

Before taking on the queen of cards quest, save and start a game in Dollet having ensured your last game wasn't with Random. Keep entering and exiting a game and resetting until the effect is the abolishment of the Random rule.
Then like Mierna said, choose four weak cards and the card she wants, and the rest is a breeze.


Heh, as a matter of fact the first time I played the game doing that I thought it was ridiculous that Dollet even HAD the rule and assumed I had accidentally spread it there. Then the second time I was gonna try my hardest to avoid letting the random rule reach Dollet, while abolishing it everywhere else it exists. And what do I know, soon as I get there, I find that Dollet actually IS in fact one of those places like Centra or Trabia where they had the Random rule initially be planted just to tick us off. Ughhh.

Random rule == Cancer.

What Zak said, and yeah, mary, exactly what you said! You just gotta keep rejecting the game until they stop asking to combine the rules, unless you're trying to abolish.

I hated Direct rule the most. The others are bearable.

Oh yeah, Direct. You win the Squall Card only to have lost your Laguna Card in effect.

BTW, what does "Same Wall" do? I could never figure it out.

From Final Fantasy Network --- "Same Wall: Uses battle area wall as 1 of card's 4 sides when using the same rule." Furthermore, from Final Fantasy Wikia: "The edges of the board are counted as A Ranks."

The worst rule has gotta be the random rule.

Although the open rule is a pain in the ass. When its not on. As it makes trying to sort out plusses and sames a lot harder when you cant see what your up against

I would say RANDOM and ALL....

Plus is just trying to make you think more, I think i am pretty fine with that.

When I first played through the game, it was random for sure. Although that was way back in the day, so maybe I didn't understand the game completely then..I just remember deleting all my really bad cards and only having the character cards, ha.

To be honest, I never understanded the rules of the card game. But I hated random and All.
IT'S NO FAIR WHEN THEY TAKE ALL YOUR CARDS.
It's like one part of you has shattered

Yeah, what I always really hated about random was the fact that it doesn't really practically make any sense. Think about it; Squall could just tell Irvine to hang on to all of the cards except for the five he wants to use in card games. He has to choose five cards out of his deck of five randomly. But no, it is absolutely impossible to discard cards or even not include them in your deck. The enforcement of that rule makes absolutely no sense. All of the other rules work out in a practical setting, but random is only enforceable because it's a video game that doesn't let you do something as easy as to hand a few of your cards to someone else for a while.

That would defeat the purpose of randomness implied in the rule, no? Getting rid of all the weaker cards is probably the same, but at least you pay a price for it.

Random and Direct were the worst. The amount of times that came up and I couldn't turn over the card I wanted, grrr!

random has 2 b my least favorite because i always end up having lots of crap ones and one rare one and i end up losing it.

Well even though im sure its been said before heavy metal. Just refine all the shitty low level ones you can and then you dont have to worry about getting so many crap and be happy about getting more rare.

I hate direct the most and by far, I use mostly those rare one of a kind cards, so thats really bad for me, FAR worse than random, I could win with random much easier than Direct, because with Direct if I'd win I wouldn't consider it a win if lost a good card in the battle! Whereas if I lost with random but didnt lose a rare card of mine, I wouldn't consider it much of a loss. :D

Elemental rule is only very slightly disadvantageous, I think I'd definitely prefer not to have it, but it's really just a minor inconvenience. Nothing like some of the other rules or the lack of the open rule. :P

Why are people saying they dislike all and differ?
FFS what's wrong with you people?
The game isn't hard!!! I was like 13 when I last played and even back when I first played it, as soon as I figured out how the game worked it was mostly downhill from there.
I'll give you some advice, don't play with rules your not good at (duh?).
I myself never played anywhere other than Balamb Garden except to collect rare cards. That way it's easy to win, plus you still get good cards, why wouldn't you want to do most of your card battles at Balamb Garden?
Also I remember most of my card battles at Balamb were on that doctor lady, she has the best cards. :)
Another piece of advice: save often.
It's a million times faster to have all and to run out and save after a good winning streak than it is to have the ONE rule and save rarely (although you'd probably still want to save just as often, which again brings me back to WHY hate ALL and DIFF?)

Some people feel save and reset is cheating. Personally, it would drive me nuts to nut use it, but there are some people that feel that way.

Personally, it would drive me nuts to nut use it, but there are some people that feel that way.

hahaha razz on Roki now!

Also, I'd have broken all the discs over the card game if not for the save and reset system.

It wasn't a misspelling, it was my little joke. ... ... Okay, so it was a misspelling. You got me. (I'm never gonna live that down, eh? :D )


And yes, my discs too would have experienced much breakage if not for save and reset.

Random can be a pain but its not too much to deal with and it's easily shaken off but direct omg, what a *@#!

ALL!
What a bastard of a rule!
It's descusting! the thought of people taking my most prized cards (When not playing random) is depressing....

Random. Ergh!

I think "Random" is rigged making the A.I nearly always win. I used to dislike the "Plus" rule, but only because I was damn lazy doing the math.

Yea the thread is a bit dated but it's definitely "random".

I think "Random" is rigged making the A.I nearly always win.

I used to think that too, only applied to the entire game. It was uncanny how I sometimes lost a rare card and then of course I had to get it back, so I kept playing and losing even more cards. No matter how much I played, I always lost.

Then I'd get fed up, reset the game, play the same person again and win without even trying. Heh, the game cheated and I guess resetting the console killed its streak of cheating.

random was a pain... then i got rid of all thos shitty cards and only used like lvl 7 or 8 card and up, and it wasn't much of a problem.. I hated the combo ones.. Cuz i never payed attention, and then all of a sudden they would flip like 3 of my cards.

I agree with all of that I never lose unless I get stuck playing with the random rule or the same and or plus combo rules

Plus was completely ftl... Ah, so much swearing and cursing that silly rule everytime I lost yet another hard earned playercard because some nublet thought it was time to use his catterphillar card to screw me over ^^

Ahh the random rule is playable, You just have to think ahead and work out what you can do before you even start, Thats how I do it and thankfully I rarely lose that way.

Plus the fact I refine anything below level 6 if possible.

random is gay but elemental dose my hed in

random, for sure

random is gay but elemental dose my hed in

God help me for even suggesting this, But ya fancy elborating a bit as to why?

God help me for even suggesting this, But ya fancy elborating a bit as to why?

which one elemental cuz it always got fire on wen its water n the opponant puts it on it dose my head in
andrandom cuz u know its not hard to see why on that 1

which one elemental cuz it always puts like fire on wen i got weater n the opponant puts put oviously it dose my hed in
andrandom cuz u know its not hard to see why on that 1
Huh?

tomma -- it might help if you tried using some capitalization and punctuation. Like any. And stop doing this stupid stuff with the "cuz" and stuff.

The gangsters here don't say 'cuz', now it's 'cuh'.

i aint no gangsta just cuz i dont put punctuation dont mean that i cant i just cant be bothered and if i say cuz i say cuz whats wong wid that EDIT: i see what ya mean tho that sentance dont make any sence lol

Well ya fancy retyping it so it does make sense?

Because I am sure there is a valid point in there we are just unable to decipher it at the moment.

I think he might have been saying that he always gets screwed because the game puts down elements of cards he doesn't have.

Ahh well see thats what I worked out as well. But I didn want to assume with such bad typing.

But then again I never had a problem with elemental rules. I just played round it.

agent that exacally what i ment thank for putting it into words for the thanx! =P

The only time the elemental rule really wrecks havoc is if you are using low level cards, and it never usually came in to play that early anyways.

I always had quite a few GF cards before I came against the elemental rule so it was no problem for me.

agent that exacally what i ment thank for putting it into words for the thanx! =P
Lol!

Random and All.

Just those two.

The rules that pissed me off the most was the Same and Plus rules. Just those two.

Random. Just that one rule, because I could work around everything else...

Because with my luck, I would always get the crappy cards picked at random...maybe one or two good ones thrown in there once I was at Discs 3-4...

I hate random I lost some good cards thanks to that.