Darth_sephiroth666
05-29-2007, 12:50 PM
well i was looking in the story theroey 'holy and meteor'
and it says that 'Thus, Aeris� death is not only pointless but unrealistic. I feel that she shouldn�t have had to die' but near the end fmv the girl says something about 'the flower girl' and when the lifestream protects the planet she says something like 'shes here'(not exact words).Also she appears after the lifestream destroys meteor.in wikipedia it says that in the book 'Maiden who Travels the Planet' 'it is confirmed that it was she who called the Lifestream into action' so if she didnt die then holy wouldnt have doen anything and neither would the lifestream as she wuldnt controll it.

So it is actually nesseceary for aeirth to die.
if u can come up with any evidence to support that she didnt need to die then just post :)

barretboy14
05-29-2007, 02:12 PM
They could of y'know.
Used a Phoenix down.

That way they'd have had the pleasure of killing her themselves.

Neg
05-29-2007, 02:54 PM
They could of y'know.
Used a Phoenix down.

That way they'd have had the pleasure of killing her themselves.

WIN.

Wolf359
05-30-2007, 06:10 PM
I heard somewhere the a Square staffer's mother died and he wanted the world to know of his grief, so he arranged that through Aeris.

Chrissss
05-31-2007, 12:51 AM
I bet if Aerith didnt die, Cloud would just beat meteor up with omnislash. and stuff.

Joey
06-04-2007, 03:15 PM
Aeris had to die because the only way to stop Meteor is to spill the blood of a virgin.

ROKI
06-04-2007, 03:38 PM
And it was either Marlene or Aeris

greenyxi
06-04-2007, 07:05 PM
Why do some people call her Aeris and some Aerith?

Metal Maniac
06-04-2007, 07:33 PM
She died. Stop crying and just except the fact that it furthered the storyline and gave cloud another reason to beat the hell outta sephiroth. Any way we all know everyone was hoping that if a main character bit the dust it was her.

TM
06-04-2007, 08:04 PM
Why do some people call her Aeris and some Aerith?


Her name was Aerith in the Japenese version, poor translation caused her to be called Aeris instead, she is also called Aerith in KH.

greenyxi
06-04-2007, 09:39 PM
Her name was Aerith in the Japenese version, poor translation caused her to be called Aeris instead, she is also called Aerith in KH.

I see. I was wondering that since back in the day of the kh 1 release...

Neo Xzhan
06-05-2007, 09:15 AM
Her name was Aerith in the Japenese version, poor translation caused her to be called Aeris instead, she is also called Aerith in KH.

Has nothing to do with poor translation. th is pronounced as s in Japanese.

TM
06-05-2007, 03:53 PM
I had heard it was poor translation, thanks for clearing that up!

TM
06-17-2007, 07:00 AM
Are you a joke account?

Mickrulz
06-17-2007, 01:32 PM
Cyber rape... O.o

TM
06-17-2007, 01:34 PM
Cyber rape is the new fad......

I'm down with it.

Mickrulz
06-17-2007, 01:43 PM
Well at least you can't have babies...

Unless cyber kids...

But I'd just eat them so it's cool.

TM
06-17-2007, 01:57 PM
Cyber kids taste good with cyber ketchup.

Neo Xzhan
06-20-2007, 05:37 PM
Are you a joke account?

I asume you're asking me. No, this is NOT a joke account. Just look at my join date. Also, I'm the mod for these forums.

TM
06-20-2007, 05:57 PM
No, Vaanisgay's posts were deleted, I was talking to him, LOL

Cataclysm
06-21-2007, 09:44 AM
And if she didn't die, it would take away the whole emotion from the game. And i my opinion, this is what gave FFVII it's edge over other FF games. The fact that a main character dies is an extremely interesting plot twist.

panospopo
06-21-2007, 10:38 AM
Is it true that in ff7 you can fight Sapphire weapon

panospopo
06-21-2007, 10:41 AM
You two who are inside. Do you play ff7?

Jemeela
06-21-2007, 11:19 AM
they killed aeris because they didn't want 2 female leads.

so aeris went, and tifa stayed.

here's the quote:

''It was also Nomura's idea for Aerith to die and Tifa to become the main heroine of FF7. In the beginning there was Aerith and no Tifa. Then one Sunday night, during a phonecall to Yoshinori Kitase (Director), he said "Let's kill Aerith and bring out Tifa". They never had a type of story where there were two heroines and one dies.''

I got it from here:

http://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=81&more=1

it's an interesting article :)

blinkfag
07-13-2007, 07:59 AM
Has nothing to do with poor translation. th is pronounced as s in Japanese.

this is actually true, if you watch advent children, they call him cloudo rather than just cloud, its just how they talk. but does anyone if you can bring aeris back? i mean you can still get her ultimate weapon so... is it possible? or is it just a waste of time to get it?

TM
07-13-2007, 07:18 PM
For the 10000000000000000000000000000000000th time, NO!!!!

Hynad
07-13-2007, 07:26 PM
this is actually true, if you watch advent children, they call him cloudo rather than just cloud, its just how they talk. but does anyone if you can bring aeris back? i mean you can still get her ultimate weapon so... is it possible? or is it just a waste of time to get it?

If you don't rush through the game, it is possible to get Aeris' ultimate weapon and let her use it until she leaves for the promised land.

Squall_Leonhart_fffan
07-13-2007, 08:39 PM
aerith/aeris had to die for the plot gace every one a reson to keep fighting made every one hate the main villian even more could she have lived ... yea would it ahve hrut the game play yes .... woudl it hurt the movies and sub plots ... yes her death is the reson ff7 became so big her death allowed everyone to feel closer to the main plot line

on and some one commented on they eneded to kill a virign if that was the case the world would ahve probly ben screwed because i dont think aerith/aeris was one dont forget she dated jack was being hunted down all the time and kenw how to make ehr self look relay good in a few dresses plus her hole stay with hojo who knows what all sick crap that psyco put her through i belaive she finsiehd calling holy and the life stream then got killed i be;ive the main psyco path of the game and the movie desided he wanted to kill her in front of the oens who loved ehr to bring them more pain

it may be a bad translation but still remebr what he said in the movie

tell me what is most dear to you so i may steal it a way ( probly worded different becuase of my spelling issues >.< ) he is realy just out to make people suffer

basicly if she didnt die the story line would have probly gone a different way i belaive she would have had to die at some point anyway the hole show down of the 2 last it had to end with them both dieing for the protection of the promise land

oh and as for the phoenix down cracks ...

they only work on koed members koed is knocked out death is death when they die in the story line thay probly wont be rboght back the rest of the game .... unless your seperoth him self sicne for some reson he can defie death ...

IDX
07-14-2007, 01:07 AM
aerith/aeris had to die for the plot gace every one a reson to keep fighting made every one hate the main villian even more could she have lived ... yea would it ahve hrut the game play yes .... woudl it hurt the movies and sub plots ... yes her death is the reson ff7 became so big her death allowed everyone to feel closer to the main plot line

on and some one commented on they eneded to kill a virign if that was the case the world would ahve probly ben screwed because i dont think aerith/aeris was one dont forget she dated jack was being hunted down all the time and kenw how to make ehr self look relay good in a few dresses plus her hole stay with hojo who knows what all sick crap that psyco put her through i belaive she finsiehd calling holy and the life stream then got killed i be;ive the main psyco path of the game and the movie desided he wanted to kill her in front of the oens who loved ehr to bring them more pain

it may be a bad translation but still remebr what he said in the movie

tell me what is most dear to you so i may steal it a way ( probly worded different becuase of my spelling issues >.< ) he is realy just out to make people suffer

basicly if she didnt die the story line would have probly gone a different way i belaive she would have had to die at some point anyway the hole show down of the 2 last it had to end with them both dieing for the protection of the promise land

oh and as for the phoenix down cracks ...

they only work on koed members koed is knocked out death is death when they die in the story line thay probly wont be rboght back the rest of the game .... unless your seperoth him self sicne for some reson he can defie death ...
Is there a reason why you don't use the backspace button? Honestly, I can't read half the stuff you put.

And if you really want Aeris back, then just use gameshark like I did. She even says something in the main story if she's in your party. I can't remember exactly where, but I think it was when Cloud was on the snowboard and crashed.

nkwp
07-14-2007, 03:38 AM
Aerith died?!

IDX
07-14-2007, 06:39 AM
YES! ISN'T IT AWESOME!?

blinkfag
07-14-2007, 03:19 PM
If you don't rush through the game, it is possible to get Aeris' ultimate weapon and let her use it until she leaves for the promised land.

oh, k cool, yer "the master"? sorry i just thought it was weird how you could get her weapon still, had i known you could get it first then i wouldnt have asked

Halo
07-15-2007, 08:44 PM
who cares Aeris was an Emo :/

Hynad
07-15-2007, 08:51 PM
God I hate those ignorant bastards who come over a thread to shoot out of topic, typical and nonsensical stuff like : "who cares, she was an Emo"...

Just like the word fanboys, we're seeing the word Emo everywhere in the comments of retarded people with no point to make about anything.

Halo
07-16-2007, 01:11 AM
God I hate those ignorant bastards who come over a thread to shoot out of topic, typical and nonsensical stuff like : "who cares, she was an Emo"...

Just like the word fanboys, we're seeing the word Emo everywhere in the comments of retarded people with no point to make about anything.
ohhh lets see the "Use Phoenix down to revive her" or the "There is a way to revive aeris " are beter huh? Seriously

IDX
07-16-2007, 03:08 AM
Being killed and being KO'd are totally different things.

And don't forget, the word "emo" stands for emotional. Whether you like it or not, you're as emo just as much as the next person. You can't deny the fact you have emotions.

If you don't have anything to say that actually regards the topic at hand, don't bother posting. Stick your face in a blender and do us all a favor.

TM
07-16-2007, 04:13 PM
I swear if I hear the world "Emo" again, I'll rip someones eyes out, just stfu and stop using the word.

J. Peterman
07-17-2007, 08:35 AM
emo

FreakyLoser
07-17-2007, 08:56 AM
As long as you don't rip my eyes out, I'm happy.

bloodshot669
07-17-2007, 12:40 PM
Back on the topic of Final Fantasy... I agree with squall_fffan judging from what i could understand...

Revolution
07-17-2007, 12:54 PM
Ya Hyrad i agree with Halo that you are a douche bag and can eat our asses. And Halo you can go fuck your mom cause Aeris was the highlight of the game..Her death made you want to find Sephiroth and kick his ass.

Revolution
07-17-2007, 12:57 PM
BTW morons phoenix downs work for the knocked out/ fainted characters not dead mother fuckers.. idiots

Halo
07-17-2007, 02:24 PM
Ya Hyrad i agree with Halo that you are a douche bag and can eat our asses. And Halo you can go fuck your mom cause Aeris was the highlight of the game..Her death made you want to find Sephiroth and kick his ass.
HIGHtlight??? lol nab Aeris was just a burden wich Squaresoft eliminated after icluding tifa in the series

TM
07-17-2007, 03:52 PM
emo

/me rips your eyes out.

Agent0042
07-18-2007, 02:34 AM
They could of y'know.
Used a Phoenix down.

That way they'd have had the pleasure of killing her themselves.



The whole "revive Aeris/th with a Phoenix Down" thing is an old joke, but as IDX rider / Revolution point out, obviously there's a difference. Of course, those that know their classic FFs know that Aeris/th is hardly the first playable FF character to be killed off.


In fact, I think it's interesting to note that when SPOILER --- Galuf died in Final Fantasy V, his comrades and granddaughter actually did try Phoenix Down, and other stuff to boot, but it didn't work:


Galuf: Butz, Lenna, Faris, And Cara. Defeat... Defeat... Ex... death...
Cara: Grandpa! Please don't die!!
Butz: Galuf, don't die! Cure3!
Lenna: Please. Life!!
Faris: Wake up, ye landlubber! Phoenix Down! Elixir!
Narrative: Galuf's life-force has been extinguished. (Or his "flame flickered out" --- there are many FFV translations out there and they're not consistent on this line.)
Cara: Grandpa!! Noooo! Don't die!!

mistekreuz_executor
07-18-2007, 05:40 AM
The whole "revive Aeris/th with a Phoenix Down" thing is an old joke, but as IDX rider / Revolution point out, obviously there's a difference. Of course, those that know their classic FFs know that Aeris/th is hardly the first playable FF character to be killed off.


In fact, I think it's interesting to note that when SPOILER --- Galuf died in Final Fantasy V, his comrades and granddaughter actually did try Phoenix Down, and other stuff to boot, but it didn't work:


Galuf: Butz, Lenna, Faris, And Cara. Defeat... Defeat... Ex... death...
Cara: Grandpa! Please don't die!!
Butz: Galuf, don't die! Cure3!
Lenna: Please. Life!!
Faris: Wake up, ye landlubber! Phoenix Down! Elixir!
Narrative: Galuf's life-force has been extinguished. (Or his "flame flickered out" --- there are many FFV translations out there and they're not consistent on this line.)
Cara: Grandpa!! Noooo! Don't die!!

Well then maybe Square-Enix needs to change DEATH status to another name like FAINT when their character's hp turned to ZERO. Because I get a little impression that any death could be revived with Phoenix Down.

white_mog
07-18-2007, 02:37 PM
And if she didn't die, it would take away the whole emotion from the game. And i my opinion, this is what gave FFVII it's edge over other FF games. The fact that a main character dies is an extremely interesting plot twist.

have you ever played any other previous FF games? a lot of main characters die.

SuperDuper
07-18-2007, 03:49 PM
Aeris had to die because the only way to stop Meteor is to spill the blood of a virgin.

aeris is a virgin? damn thats a surprise

men i always tought that she dated zack

omg , virgin ?

i cant believe this ...

Argus Zephyrus
07-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Well then maybe Square-Enix needs to change DEATH status to another name like FAINT when their character's hp turned to ZERO. Because I get a little impression that any death could be revived with Phoenix Down.
Several playable characters in FFIV even commit suicide (or well, sacrifice themselves) and they are not revived with phoenix down or something. Galuf dies unstoppably, as previously mentioned.

In war [against evil], people die.

























































However, the enemy monsters aren't supposed to be carrying 356 gil and a magic fire ring.

Sobye
07-18-2007, 08:59 PM
It's been ten years. She dies. Let go. It's okay to move on.

mistekreuz_executor
07-20-2007, 03:36 PM
Several playable characters in FFIV even commit suicide (or well, sacrifice themselves) and they are not revived with phoenix down or something. Galuf dies unstoppably, as previously mentioned.

In war [against evil], people die.


I am not referring about the deaths of FF characters. Deaths are usual thing. But if you notice something: when your character's HP turned 0, a status named DEATH will appear. And really, even if you let the character dead all way the story, you always still able to resurrect them, anytime. Try it if you don't believe it.

What I meant here is about the status when characters HP turned 0.



I need you guys to help me here, please.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?p=844397&posted=1#post844397

FreakyLoser
07-22-2007, 04:58 AM
Good point.

IDX
07-22-2007, 08:43 AM
I think that status is only in certain games. In one of the FFs (can't remember), its KO, not Death.

Agent0042
07-23-2007, 12:47 AM
Yeah, that's true. There's no denying it's called "Death" in FFVII --- I looked it up in the manual, but in FFVIII's manual, it's "KO."

Hynad
07-23-2007, 12:50 AM
There's no denying that FF VII's translation is the most horrible one in the entire series.

Agent0042
07-23-2007, 01:06 AM
It's not even consistent between the PC and Playstation versions. I've noticed that among other differences with those, some of the summon names are different, and in the PC version, they censor some profanities (mainly Cid's, of course) that are left untouched in the Playstation version.

FreakyLoser
07-23-2007, 02:00 AM
That's lame.

J. Peterman
07-23-2007, 02:23 AM
THAT GOSH DANG HOOKER DESERVED WHAT WAS COMING SEPHIROTH WAS DOING EVERYBODY A FAVOR

Mr.Seifer
07-23-2007, 05:40 AM
THAT GOSH DANG HOOKER DESERVED WHAT WAS COMING SEPHIROTH WAS DOING EVERYBODY A FAVOR

AM�N !

terabyte
07-25-2007, 07:14 AM
It's been ten years. She dies. Let go. It's okay to move on.

Btw, I just found out today: the Titanic sank, and Leonardo dies at the end. I totally cried.





I'm totally kidding.

Fatalis Prime
07-25-2007, 08:47 AM
There's no denying that FF VII's translation is the most horrible one in the entire series.

You'll find that most of the Squaresoft-era translations are absolutely horrible. Even VIII, IX and X got stuff wrong in places. Remakes made since the merger have been way better. Too bad they haven't remade the Sony run... yet. Say what you want about Square-Enix, but apparently they don't employ the same pack of retarded monkies for the English translations that Squaresoft did. Seriously, "This guy are sick." Oh he are, are he? What did they use, Babelfish? It's insulting.

mistekreuz_executor
07-25-2007, 10:40 AM
Btw, I just found out today: the Titanic sank, and Leonardo dies at the end. I totally cried.





I'm totally kidding.



WHAT THE HELL>>>

Sobye
07-25-2007, 08:43 PM
Btw, I just found out today: the Titanic sank, and Leonardo dies at the end. I totally cried.





I'm totally kidding.

It's okay, dude, everyone cries at that.

I'm not kidding.

Agent0042
07-26-2007, 02:08 AM
You'll find that most of the Squaresoft-era translations are absolutely horrible. Even VIII, IX and X got stuff wrong in places. Remakes made since the merger have been way better. Too bad they haven't remade the Sony run... yet. Say what you want about Square-Enix, but apparently they don't employ the same pack of retarded monkies for the English translations that Squaresoft did. Seriously, "This guy are sick." Oh he are, are he? What did they use, Babelfish? It's insulting.
ROTFL! "Elena, don't act so weak! You're a Turks!"

IDX
07-26-2007, 08:24 AM
I remember that!

blinkfag
07-26-2007, 09:28 AM
lol im playing it and completing it for the 15th time and i just passed that bit lol

terabyte
07-26-2007, 02:06 PM
It's okay, dude, everyone cries at that.

I'm not kidding.

grrr....I was trying to be funny? You know, those t-shirts that said "The boat sank, get over it" ~= still talking about Aeris's death 10 years later?

I see my sense of humor is often misconstrued around here. :(

Jemeela
07-26-2007, 02:55 PM
the only time i have ever cried at anything fiction was when emma died in metal gear solid 2.

and only because that guy used every trick in the book to develop her character within such a short space of time. you even had to hold her hand to walk her about. T^T



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IDX
07-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Yeah. Just the atmosphere of watching a man holding his sister as she dies is very sad. Even if they are video game characters. That's always sad to watch in any form.

KyuubiDX
07-26-2007, 06:41 PM
lmfao by the way you're talking it almost seems like Aerith should have her own day on the calendar... i mean... "it's been 10 years" =O don't you guys worry... if you're lucky enough she'll appear on Crisis Core: FF7...........Then again, maybe not...

IDX
07-26-2007, 06:47 PM
She will be. Screenshots of her in the game have been up for a loooong time.

And who exactly are you talking to?

KyuubiDX
07-26-2007, 06:56 PM
OMG! i totally missed that screenshot *falls down to his knees in shame*

hum... i AM talking to all those Aerith fans who (still do) tried to find a way to bring her back to life...

btw i'm sorry if it was out of place but i am bored outta my skin cuz i'm leveling up limit breaks in ff7 disc1...

blinkfag
07-26-2007, 09:42 PM
i got barret to limit level 3 right after i got out of midgar, and cloud to lmit level 2 along with tifa. also ive got across the swamp without a chocobo and mdgar zolom didnt catch me=]the mythril mines is a great place to level up btw unless your past there.
where are you on it?

KyuubiDX
07-27-2007, 01:56 AM
lol no (i'm still on it btw) outside the mythril mines... fighting capperwires lmao

Agent0042
07-27-2007, 03:24 AM
Right! If this is just going to be turned into a chat session for something completely unrelated to the topic, then I'm not gonna see much reason to keep it open. If you want to discuss your ongoing play experiences, feel free to take it to PM.

J. Peterman
07-27-2007, 05:44 AM
Agent0042, you are a moderator I can trust!

Keep up the good work!

TM
07-27-2007, 10:48 AM
Agent, go to GD's "Give yourself a shriner award" thread, and give yourself "Moderator of the year award" you deserve it. :)

IDX
07-27-2007, 12:15 PM
hum... i AM talking to all those Aerith fans who (still do) tried to find a way to bring her back to life...
You can bring her back to life. It's called gameshark. So I highly doubt that people are trying to find a way to bring her back if there's been a way for years.

Jemeela
07-28-2007, 06:19 AM
aeris never died completly. she is an ancient so she can transform into many things. in advent children she is a wolf, and also the water.




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Hynad
07-28-2007, 07:29 AM
In Advent Children, she is the water drop, nothing else.

Jameela, your obstination to say that she is the wolf in AC is getting old. Especially since we provided you proof that the directors themselves say that the Wolf represents NOTHING more than Cloud's guilt.


she is an ancient so she can transform into many things.

Bullshit. EVERYTHING that lives on the planet in FFVII returns to the planet's lifestream then is reborn as an other lifeform. It is not the particularity of the Ancients alone, and it should have been clear for you to understand that if you had played the game.

TM
07-28-2007, 10:57 AM
aeris never died completly. she is an ancient so she can transform into many things. in advent children she is a wolf, and also the water.




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http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/Neoned_666/stfu.gif

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/PLJ1981/300gtfo31.gif

Hawkeye_1138
08-03-2007, 10:07 PM
lol that last one is funny.

why would you want to bring aeris back with a gameshark anyway? it glitches in key areas/scenes.

and she is not that great of a character

Sobye
08-04-2007, 10:12 AM
we wantz her bcak cuz hot n cuz cluod is liek deserves teh loev

Suffa
08-04-2007, 12:46 PM
ahaha That cat one is hilarious.


Aeris sucks anyway, she can stay dead.

ayumisrael
08-04-2007, 02:43 PM
It was cheesy, and tacky.

Lil' Sain
08-06-2007, 01:44 AM
They could of y'know.
Used a Phoenix down.

That way they'd have had the pleasure of killing her themselves.

to bag phonix downs heal KO's

after getting burned to cinders. chopped into sushe and drown'd you get KO'd :P

terabyte
08-06-2007, 02:33 AM
What? She died? I was masturbating during that part of the game.

Well, it would be funny if that were true.

Tifa08
08-08-2007, 11:33 AM
That song that played when she died was the bomb i so love that song it's so sad. It's funny that when she dies no blood comes I mean come on. (Aries) "oh i was just stabbed by this black dude" (Cloud) "hey Aries i was about to slice you in half but then that black dude beat me to it damn" (Sephiroth) "why aren't you bleeding damn woman" loti

Hawkeye_1138
08-11-2007, 12:39 AM
it is because she is a zombie and zombies dont bleed. they also dont die unless you destroy their brain.(read The Zombie Survival Guide for further details) And since Sephiroth did not destroy the brain, she is still among the living

trentag
08-12-2007, 02:27 PM
Aeris did not have to die, but int he eyes of Sephiroth, she was getting in the way of his ultimate plan: Domination of the world. Aeirs was praying to Earth in hope that it would stop Meteor. But what Sephiroth did not know, was that she was going to pray with all her might, dead or alive...

blinkfag
08-12-2007, 06:54 PM
it is because she is a zombie and zombies dont bleed. they also dont die unless you destroy their brain.(read The Zombie Survival Guide for further details) And since Sephiroth did not destroy the brain, she is still among the living

that is utter bollocks, aeris was an ancient not a fucking zombie, it says in the fucking story line that their lives and well everything go to the the life stream, they didnt know where their souls went, aeris' soul carried on praying as did her will.

also zombies do bleed only their blood isnt warm, nor is it liquid as such.

Hynad
08-12-2007, 07:03 PM
blinkfag: you're a hopeless moron.

I just thought you should know.

Sobye
08-12-2007, 08:10 PM
that is utter bollocks, aeris was an ancient not a fucking zombie, it says in the fucking story line that their lives and well everything go to the the life stream, they didnt know where their souls went, aeris' soul carried on praying as did her will.

also zombies do bleed only their blood isnt warm, nor is it liquid as such.

:erm:

trentag
08-12-2007, 11:59 PM
I must say, all of you guys are morons for considering talking about Aeris' death, which should already be common knowledge, given you've played the damn game, as that she IS an ancient (the story-line told you that one) and Sephiroth killed her in hope that he would be sole controller of Earth, as his mother, Jenova, once tried to do. And just in case a topic on Sephiroth comes up, he too was an Ancient. Sephiroth was derived from Jenova cells, and if you look closely, Aeris and Sephiroth (in the game character pictures), they look quite similar. They have the same shaped cheek bones, chin, and a little bit of the same "hair style" in the front

Hynad
08-13-2007, 01:08 AM
I must say, all of you guys are morons for considering talking about Aeris' death, which should already be common knowledge, given you've played the damn game, as that she IS an ancient (the story-line told you that one) and Sephiroth killed her in hope that he would be sole controller of Earth, as his mother, Jenova, once tried to do. And just in case a topic on Sephiroth comes up, he too was an Ancient. Sephiroth was derived from Jenova cells, and if you look closely, Aeris and Sephiroth (in the game character pictures), they look quite similar. They have the same shaped cheek bones, chin, and a little bit of the same "hair style" in the front

Why would the people here be morons for discussing the death of Aeris? Her death is one of the pillar of FFVII's story. Discussing it in large, be it speculation or what her death really meant to the other characters and the outcome of the story is legitimate. You are the moron here, coming here and shooting shit and nonsenses, trying to act tough yet you come up with shit stuff like "Sephiroth is an Ancient because he looks like Aeris". You're clearly making an ass out of yourself here. And although it is always fun to see such a failure come in here and type stuff that are beyond his understanding, it quite gets old fast, so I suggest you GTFO of here unless you want to worsen your case.

Hawkeye_1138
08-13-2007, 05:07 PM
they just needed to kill someone off to keep the story going

NorseFTX
08-13-2007, 07:05 PM
And just in case a topic on Sephiroth comes up, he too was an Ancient. Sephiroth was derived from Jenova cells, and if you look closely, Aeris and Sephiroth (in the game character pictures), they look quite similar. They have the same shaped cheek bones, chin, and a little bit of the same "hair style" in the front

Oh--!
Neither Sephiroth nor JENOVA were Ancients (Cetra)--that was a mistake made by Professor Hojo and Gast in their reports.

Later, in the Icicle Inn, you can find Professor Gast's old videos of him talking with Ifalna (Aeris's mother), and Ifalna clears up the fact that JENOVA actually wasn't an Ancient (or "Cetra", as they call themselves), but was an alien that came in and threatened to wipe out the Cetra. The few surviving Cetra were able to imprison JENOVA.

When JENOVA was discovered by Professor Gast, he most likely didn't know anything about an alien, but might have discovered traces of the Cetra, so he may have mistakenly come to the conclusion that JENOVA was one of the Cetra.

TM
08-13-2007, 08:08 PM
I must say, all of you guys are morons for considering talking about Aeris' death, which should already be common knowledge, given you've played the damn game, as that she IS an ancient (the story-line told you that one) and Sephiroth killed her in hope that he would be sole controller of Earth, as his mother, Jenova, once tried to do. And just in case a topic on Sephiroth comes up, he too was an Ancient. Sephiroth was derived from Jenova cells, and if you look closely, Aeris and Sephiroth (in the game character pictures), they look quite similar. They have the same shaped cheek bones, chin, and a little bit of the same "hair style" in the front

Holy shit your fucking dumb.

Hawkeye_1138
08-13-2007, 08:35 PM
get a lombotomy

Argus Zephyrus
08-13-2007, 10:40 PM
I reckon y'all bes dummies. Aeris was only good for buttsecks.

TM
08-14-2007, 12:25 AM
Hey, your a dummy.

Hawkeye_1138
08-15-2007, 09:37 PM
true that

Sephith
08-19-2007, 09:15 PM
They could of y'know.
Used a Phoenix down.

That way they'd have had the pleasure of killing her themselves.

What in the world do you have against Aerith and i wish that it was tifa that would've died not Aerith, but then again tifa isnt good enough to die for that cause. i doubt that would have wanted to kill her and your sick to think that!!

ROKI
08-19-2007, 09:23 PM
Just to point out that Phoenix Downs are used to revive characters from a knocked out (KO) state, and not from death.

Sephith
08-19-2007, 09:24 PM
She died. Stop crying and just except the fact that it furthered the storyline and gave cloud another reason to beat the hell outta sephiroth. Any way we all know everyone was hoping that if a main character bit the dust it was her.

Now how do you know that everyone was hoping that it was her who bit the dust, i was actually hoping Tifa would. Yes we all know that she died and your right it did give him another reason to beat the hell out of Sephiroth which proves that he has feelings for Aerith. And not everyone was hoping that it was Aerith who bit the dust i was hoping it was tifa, stop thinking that everyone hates Aerith and the want her to die cause i can easily say that i dont i wanted Tifa to bite the dust.Not everyone hates Aerith i know i sure dont. I hope i have made my point. That not everyone wants Aerith to die because not everyone thinks like that.

NorseFTX
08-19-2007, 09:29 PM
Sephith is right...!
Not everyone thinks the same way....

I don't really agree that Tifa should have gone instead (I kind of liked her, too--I don't want to have had any of them die), but if you don't like Aeris, it doesn't mean everyone doesn't like Aeris!

It'd be kind of nice to think that everyone thinks like you, but that's only for a little while. If that went on too long, you'd start realizing how boring the world was.

Sephith
08-19-2007, 09:32 PM
they killed aeris because they didn't want 2 female leads.

so aeris went, and tifa stayed.

here's the quote:

''It was also Nomura's idea for Aerith to die and Tifa to become the main heroine of FF7. In the beginning there was Aerith and no Tifa. Then one Sunday night, during a phonecall to Yoshinori Kitase (Director), he said "Let's kill Aerith and bring out Tifa". They never had a type of story where there were two heroines and one dies.''

I got it from here:

http://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=81&more=1

it's an interesting article :)

Well i think thats just quite rediculous and stupid if they wanted to take any female character out it shoulda been Tifa but then again shes not even good enough to die. And Tifa shoulda went NOT AERITH! I still dont understand why people like Tifa and not Aerith, and why people hate Aerith, what is sooo bad about her that makes people like you hate her??? Please let me know!!!!!

Sephith
08-19-2007, 09:35 PM
Sephith is right...!
Not everyone thinks the same way....

I don't really agree that Tifa should have gone instead (I kind of liked her, too--I don't want to have had any of them die), but if you don't like Aeris, it doesn't mean everyone doesn't like Aeris!

It'd be kind of nice to think that everyone thinks like you, but that's only for a little while. If that went on too long, you'd start realizing how boring the world was.

Yes Yes !!!!! thank you someone that agrees with me!!!! and your right it would have been nice to just have everyone live but ew jsut cant have that, I dont know why but i jsut dont like Tifa, and thank you for actually saying something that corrosponded with what i said :) You made my day lol :)

UltimateFFFan
08-19-2007, 09:36 PM
Well i think thats just quite rediculous and stupid if they wanted to take any female character out it shoulda been Tifa but then again shes not even good enough to die. And Tifa shoulda went NOT AERITH! I still dont understand why people like Tifa and not Aerith, and why people hate Aerith, what is sooo bad about her that makes people like you hate her??? Please let me know!!!!!

Dude, she's a computer game character.... Get a life, she doesn't care who hates/loves her, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so let them be. In my opinion, I never saw a need for her as I never got her Limit Break past Seal Evil, so I rarely used her, but Tifa was used a lot by myself.

Sephith
08-19-2007, 09:42 PM
Dude, she's a computer game character.... Get a life, she doesn't care who hates/loves her, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so let them be. In my opinion, I never saw a need for her as I never got her Limit Break past Seal Evil, so I rarely used her, but Tifa was used a lot by myself.

Ok Well i let you know that i sure as hell have a life and people that like game characters are called FANS and all i wnated to say is that im a fan to some extent of Aerith, and yes their may have never been a need for her but what i said was my opinion and should freakin respect that!! And i know shes a digitally,animated character, i was just putting my opinion out and that was my opinion

UltimateFFFan
08-19-2007, 09:47 PM
Warning: 13 Year Old FanBoy Alert..... Your life probably consists of going to school and talking about Aeris/th ffs.

Also, learn to type and speak English correctly. When I is used by itself, it is almost always capitalised.

Sephith
08-19-2007, 09:55 PM
Warning: 13 Year Old FanBoy Alert..... Your life probably consists of going to school and talking about Aeris/th ffs.

Also, learn to type and speak English correctly. When I is used by itself, it is almost always capitalised.

No for your information I am a girl cause it kinda sounded like you called me a guy and I really dont care about the way use the letter "i" ill capitalize and lowercase it as much as a freakin want. I didnt that we had a person who actually cared what people type like as long as you can read and understand it, it really doesnt matter the way you type it unless it bugs you that if its not perfect its not good enough. i dont go home and talk about Aerith ok o and my school doesnt start till the 22nd so im still waitin and nobody around were i live like FF or KH or any type of anime so i really dont talk to alot of people about this.

NorseFTX
08-19-2007, 09:56 PM
Alright, alright--!
No more talking about other peoples' lives...

If you don't want people assuming things about who you are, then you shouldn't spend the time doing it to others!

It's nice that you care enough about how others see them by telling them to fix their grammar, but I'm pretty sure that they know that "I" is supposed to be capitalized....
(It's not like they can't see us doing it, right?)

EDIT: Ah, and uh, this is to UltimateFFFan...

Sephith
08-19-2007, 09:58 PM
Thank you and your right enough is enough...

UltimateFFFan
08-19-2007, 10:06 PM
No for your information I am a girl cause it kinda sounded like you called me a guy and I really dont care about the way use the letter "i" ill capitalize and lowercase it as much as a freakin want. I didnt that we had a person who actually cared what people type like as long as you can read and understand it, it really doesnt matter the way you type it unless it bugs you that if its not perfect its not good enough. i dont go home and talk about Aerith ok o and my school doesnt start till the 22nd so im still waitin and nobody around were i live like FF or KH or any type of anime so i really dont talk to alot of people about this.

My apologies about assuming you were a boy. It just happens that 90% of people who love Aeris so much are male.

Does it not also occur to you that other people may actually do something with their lives during the holidays, like get a job, or actually talk about something useful.

Aeris is not a goddess, she dies, end of. There's no point in going on about it, because you are not even mature enough to hold a debate against someone. Apparently, a debate to you means, "I am right, you are wrong", not "let's look at the facts, and make a decision based upon the strength of the arguments".

I think you need to grow up.

Sephith
08-19-2007, 10:13 PM
My apologies about assuming you were a boy. It just happens that 90% of people who love Aeris so much are male.

Does it not also occur to you that other people may actually do something with their lives during the holidays, like get a job, or actually talk about something useful.

Aeris is not a goddess, she dies, end of. There's no point in going on about it, because you are not even mature enough to hold a debate against someone. Apparently, a debate to you means, "I am right, you are wrong", not "let's look at the facts, and make a decision based upon the strength of the arguments".

I think you need to grow up.

Yes i do know that people do something with their lives and i am one of those people, i have a life and i do useful things instead of attacking and assuming things about people, and i know what a debate means and no i do not believe that everything is either my way or no way, and i like the character Aertih not love her i like other characters more than her, i know that she dies and i can hold a debate against someone, you need to stop attacking my personal life cause its none of your bussiness... And i am mature stop assuming stuff about me cause what your saying is wrong

Prak
08-19-2007, 10:21 PM
I will settle this once and for all.

Sephith is stupid and should fuck off immediately.

I have spoken. The matter is closed.

Sephith
08-19-2007, 10:25 PM
I will settle this once and for all.

Sephith is stupid and should fuck off immediately.

I have spoken. The matter is closed.

Well i am not stupid and im not going anywhere........and who died and made you king???? and i dont think that once you say something its over no one else can say anything else, sorry if i dont go by that rule, i dont think that once you say somthing its over and its closed....no people are allowed to say what they want and not everyone agrees that i need to go and not everyone agrees that i am stupid cause i am not!

Prak
08-19-2007, 10:32 PM
A stupid person is not qualified to assess intelligence, especially their own, so your comment about your own intelligence is invalidated. I, on the other hand, am quite intelligent and can recognize a moron on sight. Therefore, my assertion that you are stupid is entirely accurate.

No one needed to die to make me king. The more intelligent people here knew better than to make their deaths a requisite.

NorseFTX
08-19-2007, 10:38 PM
I don't think someone who doesn't know another person personally is qualified to call them "stupid", either...

I think what you mean by 'stupid' is "not very good at internet communication".

Sephith
08-19-2007, 10:41 PM
I dont even know what to say to what you jsut said i am an intelligant person and i dont need people like you saying that im not. I am not a moron and not stupid. im done with this im finished argueing im not an idiot and im not a moron thats it stop saying i am cause its not true

Sephith
08-19-2007, 10:51 PM
Thank you again lol NorseFTX :)

UltimateFFFan
08-19-2007, 11:00 PM
What is it with n00bs and not understanding what Prak says? Even I know not to insult him or argue with him, and I've been here for a few years now!

Also, Norse, some people are obviously stupid, regardless of you knowing them or not, if someone makes a post like "Aerith is teh sh*t, Tifa should have died!", they're stupid.

Sephith
08-19-2007, 11:13 PM
What is it with n00bs and not understanding what Prak says? Even I know not to insult him or argue with him, and I've been here for a few years now!

Also, Norse, some people are obviously stupid, regardless of you knowing them or not, if someone makes a post like "Aerith is teh sh*t, Tifa should have died!", they're stupid.

I'll let you know that everyone on here was a noob at one point in time, and i never said anything like Aerith is the shit i said she was a good character, and yes i dont like Tifa and i wish she would have died because i dont like her, thats what i think you need to stop picking at me, and im not stupid your a freakin bitch for just picking and never stoping, give it a damn rest!!!

Hynad
08-20-2007, 01:24 AM
You said that you didn't want Aerith to die. That you wanted Tifa to die at her place.

That is obviously stupid to say. When we all played this game for the first time (given nobody spoiled the story to you) nobody had the pretention to know that a playable character was to die in the course of the game. So saying you wanted Tifa to die instead of Aerith is stupid.

An other thing that makes your obssession for Aerith really ridiculous is that when you UNDERSTAND FF7's scenario, you see that Aerith sacrificed herself in order for her prayer to reach the planet and activate Holy. Aerith being an ANCIENT (which gave her the ability to communicate with the planet) made that possible. And Bugenhagen said it himself: "If a soul seeking Holy reaches the planet, it will appear." And we all know that it was Aerith who had the White Materia during the whole game.

Seriously Sephith, listen to Prak here, and just fuck off.

Agent0042
08-20-2007, 01:27 AM
All I have to say is that the dark blue font is really clashing against the background and hurting my eyes --- please change it to something else!

Prec0g
08-20-2007, 04:15 AM
I can't believe it! All that fuss just because she thinks that Tifa should have died instead of Aerith. lol then you called her an idiot and a loser this is so funny!

UltimateFFFan
08-20-2007, 07:33 AM
I can't believe it! All that fuss just because she thinks that Tifa should have died instead of Aerith. lol then you called her an idiot and a loser this is so funny!

I can't believe you registered just to post this!

NorseFTX
08-20-2007, 05:50 PM
That means he REALLY can't believe that all this fuss is going on, and it's so incredulous to him, that he just HAD to post.

XP

Sobye
08-20-2007, 06:08 PM
How this thread even made it past one page amazes me.

Sephith
08-20-2007, 11:58 PM
You said that you didn't want Aerith to die. That you wanted Tifa to die at her place.

That is obviously stupid to say. When we all played this game for the first time (given nobody spoiled the story to you) nobody had the pretention to know that a playable character was to die in the course of the game. So saying you wanted Tifa to die instead of Aerith is stupid.

An other thing that makes your obssession for Aerith really ridiculous is that when you UNDERSTAND FF7's scenario, you see that Aerith sacrificed herself in order for her prayer to reach the planet and activate Holy. Aerith being an ANCIENT (which gave her the ability to communicate with the planet) made that possible. And Bugenhagen said it himself: "If a soul seeking Holy reaches the planet, it will appear." And we all know that it was Aerith who had the White Materia during the whole game.

Seriously Sephith, listen to Prak here, and just fuck off.


Well i dont have to listen to you or Prak i follow what i want to, and yes i know the whole scenario of the game, and like i said I am not stupid thats just what i think. I do not love Aerith i think shes a good character and Im not going anywhere whether or not you or Prak wants me to go.I am not obsessed with Aerith...End of Story stop saying i am. And quit calling me stupid i know my intelligance and i am not stupid.. you people have no idea what jerks you can be! Lighten up. And stop picking at me! What the hell did i ever do to any of you except post what i wanted to about topics... O and if the colors i use hurt your eyes i thought i would let you alll know that i am not changing them.

Agent0042
08-21-2007, 12:06 AM
Great. Well, then go and not-change them in some other thread. This thread may have made it past page one, but it ain't making it past page six, 'cause I'm putting it out of its misery. So long!