I somehow managed to forget that time compression takes place immediately after your battle with Adel. Now I'm in the room with a bunch of save points. This would be no problem except... uh, I forgot to do the deep sea research center subquest first. :uh?: Is this available on disc 4 or should I restore an earlier saved game?

Uhmm, Well dunno for sure, but I believe it is.. could be very wrong though, so wait for another one to post along ^_^
Ofcourse you can always draw certain GF's like Eden in Ultimecia's castle if you forget them the fist time.
If you want to play it safe, then I suggest you restore an old saved game.

:rolleyes: dunno if you can draw the GF in Ultimecia's castle... but to be on the safe side you should restore and old game, yeah.

Returning to disc 3 now...

dont go back. the deep sea research center is one of the few places still open after time compression.

but if u missed any GF's heres how to get them in ulti's castle...

Trauma: Draw Leviathan.
Red Giant: Draw Pandemonium.
Tri-Point: Draw Siren.
Gargantua: Draw Cerberus
Catoblepas: Draw Alexander.
Krysta: Draw Carbuncle.
Tiamat: Draw Eden.

All of these r GFs that u cudve missed in the game and not gone back for (except for Eden, but u cant get it unless u get Bahamut first anyway).

Hope this helps
:D

NOW you tell me. :rolleyes: Thanks.

You have to climb up a chain if you go through one of the portals then your back on to the world map where your can still go to the deep sea research centre as well as the centra ruins.

hey ! i need a lot of help here !
1 can you tell where are Tiamat ? and the picture in ultimecia castle !
2 do you known how to summon Griever ?

I don't remember where Tiamat is, and I don't understand your second question, but you can't summon Griever. Ultimecia will summon Griever in the final battle and you'll have to fight him. It might be possible to summon him using a Gameshark (playstation thingie that lets you cheat and do normally impossible things like have Fujin and Raijin in your party), but without cheating it's impossible.

taimat is up the clock tower (just swing across the pendulim)

to solve the picture room puzzle you need to find the three pictures whos names make up the name of the big picture

these are: 1. garden
2. sleeps
3. messanger

the names are in latin so you must remember the latin for the names.

you can get to the world map and the raganork
if you go through the top door on the chain then to the chocobos holy ground and ride a chocobo down the coast (in the sea) past esthar to just below cactur island and there you can get back to dry land and if you go to the desert you can find a hidden door and your raganork
after you go through the door the door appears next to the chain and you can access the world map and your raganork when ever you need to.


hope this helps both of you