Agent0042
02-03-2007, 05:03 AM
He seemed like a real womanizer at times, but still really awesome. I loved him. I kept wishing and hoping he would join the party as a guest, but it never happened. He just seemed really cool and hip, and helpful to the party too.

Revaninja
02-03-2007, 05:09 AM
Eh I thought he was okay. Just a little too much like anelvis impersonater for my taste. But if he did join what weapon would he use and what would his lady friend do? The one who holds his sunglasses in the Salior fuka like clothing. I see a Fist fighter or a Bull fighter cape and Sword. What about you?

Agent0042
02-03-2007, 05:14 AM
I think about the same maybe. I could also see him with a gun, though.

Revaninja
02-03-2007, 05:21 AM
Double Flintlocks =)

BeneHaElohim
02-03-2007, 05:50 AM
I liken his character to that of Balthier in a way - very charismatic, but with more of a modern twist. I can certainly see him with a gun, but that's probably b/c I associate Balthier with guns. If not a gun, perhaps a lance or one of those swords used for fencing (not sure what the proper name for it is). Very cool though - like a less-secretive James Bond maybe?

Agent0042
02-03-2007, 05:55 AM
Yeah, Bondsian, that's the vibe I got too, except something slightly different --- less of that British feel, I would suppose.

Revaninja
02-03-2007, 06:05 AM
He does have that. As for Bene you are talking about either a Foil or a Rapier. Foils are used in the sport fencing but have little actual ability to harm, while Rapiers are their more dangerous cousins. I personally would chose a Kora sword for the right and a Talwar witha big 2 hand hilt in the left. But yeah I see either a Rapier or a gun as his weapons though I can aslo see him wearing Steel Gauntlets and going at it like 'Gentlemen'

Undead_Lives
02-03-2007, 08:08 AM
I could see Al-Cid with a gun. A pretty boy wouldn't use anything close up :P

mary_sonnie
02-03-2007, 10:49 AM
Al-Cid out-pimps Balthier (it breaks my heart, but it's true). Hell, he's even got a hot chick in tight pants that holds his glasses for him. She doesn't even speak.

DeathShining
02-03-2007, 11:46 AM
Balthier is way cooler than Al-cid, hes got his own airship he's a sky pirate and he has a Hot Viera chick called fran with him 24/7, and he was a judge at 1 time in his life.

Al-cid also reminds me of luis sera from re4, i think a gun would be a suitable weapon, i didnt really like the character you dont see much of him, he just turns up acts all cool gets wounded then limps off. At least thats all i can remember of him.

Judge Bergan
02-03-2007, 01:35 PM
Balthier is way cooler than Al-cid, hes got his own airship he's a sky pirate and he has a Hot Viera chick called fran with him 24/7, and he was a judge at 1 time in his life.


http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youflirtpb1.png

4 women plus probably many more > Balthier and one viera.

Al-Cid was sexy. Such a flirt =D

RosaLaurus
02-03-2007, 05:21 PM
haha~ He made me laugh. :D Or, his accent did. Not that it's bad, just that I found it amusing.

I like Al-Cid a lot. He's a little fuzzy on the chest(bleh) but with those awesome glasses... me~ow 83

forevercloud
02-03-2007, 05:43 PM
I agree that Al-Cid was hella cool, and definitely would have made a great guest party member. But the fact that you find the character from a video game sexy is altogether amusing and slightly odd. Although I don't judge, to each his own.

Revaninja
02-03-2007, 06:58 PM
Trust me this is nothing. I have seen fan shrines to Tifa's hmmm Assests so to speak so this is nothing. And on that Image anyone noticed that 3 of the girls all look exactly the same the exception is the girl holding his glasses she just looks angry or peeved. So Al-Cid got himself Triplets it appears I don't know wether to cry, appulaed, or run him through. As for Balither being out pimped by Al-Cid Naw Fran makes any one of those girls look like an underdevolped school girl and he has a Fan base I am sure propertional for one who is the 'Leading Man'.

Judge Bergan
02-03-2007, 09:31 PM
Al-Cid was born a pimp - he has more then those 4 women I bet you, PLUS, the chest hair - hello? The accent - and since when..


Trust me this is nothing. I have seen fan shrines to Tifa's hmmm Assests so to speak so this is nothing.

^ Does this have anything to do with what we are talking about?

*thinks you are referring to the guy above*

Revaninja
02-03-2007, 09:36 PM
I was talking to forevercloud at that point. As for it I still say Balither out pimps Al-Cid he is the Leading man after all. =)

forevercloud
02-03-2007, 09:47 PM
This is true I have seen some of those fan sites and what have you. Balther is definitely more badass merely because he's a sky pirate. I feel like he could have any one of those girls if he wanted to. He's just a dedicated guy is all. He has Fran already so he doesn't go around with as many girls as possible like Al-Cid does.

Judge Bergan
02-03-2007, 09:50 PM
Still doesn't mean Balthier is pimpier xD

Revaninja
02-03-2007, 10:00 PM
If he can steal the girls away from Al-Cid yes it does. I would love to see a Pimp off between Balither and Al-Cid. Though Balither has a secert weapon. Knight in shinning armor my female friends who heard that he was a judge keeps on saying she wants to see Balither in armor with his Helm off Hair toulsed and Sweaty. She then usually giggles and blush like mad so I assume the image works on her. Al-Cid I think wouldn't be Able to Pull it off on Size alone he would look to much like an Orc in armor plus he couldn't show off his chest which is where as the same friend of mine said all his spanish charm resides.

Judge Bergan
02-03-2007, 10:05 PM
You are giving false facts out. Damn you - I think Reddas may out pimp everyone. Hello, pink pants? <3

Revaninja
02-03-2007, 10:28 PM
False facts? Its true my friend is a geek plain and simiple and she is a hopless romantic. Though I have to agree with you on the idea of Reddas he probably could out-pimp anyone he after all charmed an entire Pirate town into submission.

forevercloud
02-03-2007, 11:13 PM
Reddas may have charm, but charm does not always necesitate pimpishness. Pimpishness is determined by a simple equation of other factors compiled to discern the over pimpishness of a person, usually male. It looks a little something like this
charm*looks+number of girls*job/girlish characteristics=pimpishness.

simple mathematics really. anybody wishing to add or modify that, feel free, and hopefully we can all come up with a uniform reasoning here.

mary_sonnie
02-04-2007, 02:27 AM
Someone needs to rename this thread "Biggest Pimp of FFXII"


Oddly enough, in Japanese fandom, Basch seems to be the village bicycle.

Revaninja
02-04-2007, 02:52 AM
Well techincally he is. I mean first Landis, Dalmasca, and then Archadia. He gets passed around at the war room like a good knight =).

Undead_Lives
02-04-2007, 03:51 AM
I'd say Balthier is much cooler, and Fran, she's a friggen goddess >.>
20 girls < 1 Fran.

forevercloud
02-04-2007, 05:56 PM
Yea Fran's definitely way better than the couple of girls Al-Cid has. Especially since she could easily kick their asses. This gives Balthier the edge in girls, job, and lack of girlish characteristics. Which is enough to be more pimp than Al-Cid at any rate. Basch is a whole nother story. Basch doesn't really have any girls though. He's always with Ashe, but he's just her knight so there doesn't appear to be anything more to that at all.

Revaninja
02-04-2007, 07:04 PM
Second that Fran has legs that don't stop -drool- as for Basch he may not get loving on screen off is a different story. Rememeber that friend? Yeah her and guys with bad past I will never understand. Plus I have been told Scars are sexy though it in reference to me I think it will work with Basch. Plus you have to admit he is cool as all get out. I mean losess all honor by everyones standard still fights with it, is branded a King slayer instead of fighting it he explains to those who matter and moves on never once turning away from those who do him injustice and untruths. Is he pissed at his brother for pulling what he did, no just does what he has to do no more no less. So even if Basch isn't as pimp as Balither he is still just plain cool.

mary_sonnie
02-04-2007, 07:51 PM
Basch - cool, but very straight-laced. Married to his job.

Al-Cid - pimp (but not badass, see below)

Baltheir - badass (and I still don't think he's as big a pimp as Al-Cid)

Revaninja
02-04-2007, 08:12 PM
Wait his job is protecting Larsa or Ashe to so if he is married to his job....Bad fanfic Ideas VERY Bad ideas.

mary_sonnie
02-04-2007, 08:43 PM
I prefer to think of "married" in the strictly symbolic sense...

Revaninja
02-04-2007, 08:49 PM
I know just the author in me rising up and going Ooh this has pontenial MWHAHAHA. I usually keep him locked up but he escapes sometimes

WHAHAHA. BACK TO THE CAGE!

Hynad
02-08-2007, 06:01 AM
I thought Al-Cid was a completely useless NPC. All he did was show off to let us know there's another part of the world that you can't explore. I hate the fact that Square-Enix went and did a world you just can't fully explore. Although massive, it was still a let-down to me. This and the fact that we havent seen a real airship since FFIX. Driving the airship ourselves feels so much better than clicking on the destination of your choice... oh well...

Agent0042
02-08-2007, 06:03 AM
Yeah, okay, fair enough, I too was a bit pissed that we never got to see Rozarria.

mary_sonnie
02-08-2007, 06:06 AM
Yeah, okay, fair enough, I too was a bit pissed that we never got to see Rozarria.I agree. Al-Cid could have been developed so much more and I always did want to explore Rozarria, as I got to explore Archades.

Agent0042
02-08-2007, 05:52 PM
It's been something I've been holding in for a while, because, honestly, it does seem a bit petty. As Hynad mentioned, it is a massive game. I don't really want to be sore just because we didn't get to explore one area.

BeneHaElohim
02-09-2007, 04:06 AM
Agreed - it would have been great to explore Rozarria and experience new architecture, culture, etc., but there is sooo much to this game as is that it's hardly worth complaining about.

Judge Bergan
02-09-2007, 12:42 PM
Maybe we shall see more in RW?

Agent0042
02-09-2007, 06:15 PM
That's my hope / guess.

forevercloud
02-09-2007, 11:50 PM
What does RW stand for? sorry I'm not up to date always.

But yea, exploring Rozarria would definitely have been really cool. It seemed like such a great place to go to.

Agent0042
02-10-2007, 12:38 AM
Revenant Wings. It's supposed to be for the DS, but there isn't much info about it and there haven't been any threads started about it yet.

Hynad
02-10-2007, 04:03 AM
there's been a lot of infos about it on other websites. A quick google search will lead you to a lot of infos...

Agent0042
02-10-2007, 05:02 AM
I guess what I really meant is that we haven't talked about it here. Perhaps I'll start a thread about it soon if someone else doesn't.

forevercloud
02-10-2007, 06:45 AM
Oh ok, yea I just found an article on it. I'll post a link if anyone wants it, but I'm sure there's plenty out there. I hope it doesn't suck. I don't know why, but I'm definitely a little bit skeptic from the information I have seen on it so far.