OysterHead
01-03-2007, 04:31 AM
I just got the boss that u fight right when u enter the tomb of raith wall and i tried for hours, switched up the gambits, party members, got new magiks, new licenses, new weapons and i still cant beat that boss. any tips on how to beat it?

Agent0042
01-03-2007, 09:18 AM
Wha? You leveled up for hours and you're still not beating the Demon Wall? I assume that's the one you're talking about, or is it Belias.

Anyway, sorry, but fail. Go back to basic Final Fantasy school.

Germ
01-03-2007, 09:25 AM
You mean the first wall that you can choose to "fight or escape"? That's an optional boss..just escape and go on to the easier version through the door. Quickenings help ALOT in this boss fight. Rmb to have at least a lvl 1 quickening.

OysterHead
01-03-2007, 07:43 PM
No its a big bird or something
i totally messed up on the licenses and stuff i think im just gunna start a new game

Agent0042
01-03-2007, 07:59 PM
Heke? A big bird? Don't know of any big bird in that section.

It's not really possible to "mess up" the Licenses. Just go do some farming for a half-hour or so over in the Estersand. Should be really easy.

OysterHead
01-03-2007, 08:33 PM
i cant get anywhere i left the ship back somewhere and now i had to travel through the sand sea to get to the valley of the dead and i just cant beat the boss. its a big flaming bird or something.

p.s. whats a quickening and how do i use it

Agent0042
01-03-2007, 10:06 PM
Are we even talking about the same game? There's no ship. At least, not until much later in the game.

Seriously, are you just BSing us? What in the world are you talking about? This is the Final Fantasy XII section.


Anyway, just hit R2 and run like the river back to the Gate Crystal. You do know how to access the map, right?

OysterHead
01-03-2007, 10:48 PM
alright the bosses name is Garuda and apparently all u have to do is blind it and spam dark

MeruRikku
01-03-2007, 11:16 PM
Haha, she is talking about the right game Agent. Your suppose to use the esker berries that you obtained on the bird to cut it's hp down. And then after that the boss fight should be a "little" easier....that's pretty much all I can help with.

DeathShining
01-03-2007, 11:22 PM
You could try blinding it and spamming dark? 0_o How can you be stuck on that boss, just level up and make sure your characters can actually hit it. with a bow and arrow, or a bow gun, or a gun, or dark.

Agent0042
01-04-2007, 12:09 AM
Oh, that boss. The one that you have to beat before you can actually enter the tomb. Yeah, okay. Yeah, blinding is a good idea, I suppose. Honestly, I just spammed Quickenings and took him down. I didn't even bother with the Eskir Berries.

Oh, and you find the Quickenings on the License Board. Once you learn one, the game will tell you more.

OysterHead
01-04-2007, 01:15 AM
I got one quickening on the license board but it didnt say anything about them but its in my actions and it never lets me use it.
where can i get those berrys?

Agent0042
01-04-2007, 01:17 AM
Do you remember a Yensa that sorta ran away and a moogle commented on it? If you go back to that area where the moogle is and then go back to the area before it, you should be able to trigger a scene. Then, when you go back to where the moogle is, you'll trigger another scene and then you'll be able to get one of those berries from a blooming plant.

Honestly, though, you should be kicking this boss's ass. What are your characters' levels?

OysterHead
01-04-2007, 01:20 AM
all of them are around 13 and 14 except Balthier hes only level 8

Agent0042
01-04-2007, 01:23 AM
You should be pounding it. You have to be saved somewhere, right? Why don't you just go LP farm?

OysterHead
01-04-2007, 01:28 AM
alright thanks agent :)
ill report in when ive slain the beast

Agent0042
01-04-2007, 01:29 AM
Oh, and I'd say at this point focus on Augments and Armor and get yourself a Quickening or few if any are reasonably manageable.

OysterHead
01-04-2007, 01:38 AM
yea i got the Augments coverd

tenn77
01-04-2007, 02:09 AM
yes they're right.

OysterHead
01-05-2007, 01:23 AM
alright so finally i beat the boss and i get into teh tomb and now i cant kill teh wall things.
i suck at final fantasy

Agent0042
01-05-2007, 02:05 AM
Okay, here's some more specific advice on this and in general:

A.) As has been stated, run away from the first one and then you'll fight an easier one.

B.) The pillars that are early on slow the wall's advance. However, be careful. Later on, those ones only speed it up.

C.) You do know that you can switch out a character that's not being targeted and switch out another character, right? What I would do is cast your protective statuses and anything you can use against it and then unleash any Quickenings if possible. Then, switch out a character and start the chain again. Rinse and repeat.

D.) Did you know you can heal members not in your active party? Just use the R1 / L1 to target them.

BeneHaElohim
01-06-2007, 02:16 AM
Okay, here's some more specific advice on this and in general:

A.) As has been stated, run away from the first one and then you'll fight an easier one.

B.) The pillars that are early on slow the wall's advance. However, be careful. Later on, those ones only speed it up.
...

Agent has some great advice here, but I have some comments to add (minor spoilers included):

A.) If you have the ability it is actually in your best interest to defeat the first wall - it opens up a secret path that gives you access to a treasure chest that holds the Demonsbane sword, and you can defeat some flan-like creatures on your way there that drop an axe (I forget which one) that has great attack stats for that point in the game - provides an incredible advantage from a melee perspective for quite some time.

B.) I don't remember if the pillars/torches actually have any effect on the first wall (if they're even present), but I know that during the fight with the second wall their effect on the wall (speed up/slow down) seemed quite random - even early ones had the ability to speed it up for me.

Germ
01-08-2007, 10:46 AM
As I mentioned earlier, quickening is very important in the wall fights..one or two quickenings could easily bring down 3/4 of the wall's hp. Try to practice quickenings by getting at least 4 to 6 chains. I was ard level 18 to 22 when I reach here.

tenn77
01-08-2007, 01:57 PM
i was level 27 when i reach that place.

Agent0042
01-08-2007, 03:55 PM
Wow, you wasted a lot of time leveling during a time when you don't even have access to stuff like Embroidered Tippet or Golden Amulet.