alestio
11-22-2006, 05:34 PM
i wanna complain it seems since it was changed from square soft to square enix or maybe just from PS1 to PS2 in my opinion the final fantasy series has dramatically decreased in quality. like ff-x2 was an alrite game but it just didn't have the sense of adventure, gameplay, storyline, longevity or fun that the other ff before it had it was a bit to much like some kinda arcade game to me, and that dirge of cerberus is just crap that IS AN ARCADE GAME it took about a day to complete and theres way too many guns for a game set in the final fantasy worlds, sure all final fantasies have guns but DOC just goes over the top. i would be much happier playing a final fantasy with a sword in my hand. i was also looking at some videos of ffXII and i really dont like the look of the new battle system its to freeformfor my liking if the battle systems keep going like this we will lose the original fighting system of final fantasy altogether and we will be playing a game such as devil may cry or dynasty warriors set in a final fantasy universe.
the most dissapointing thing about the newer final fantasies such sa FFX2 is how tragically boring the story is i mean you just dont connect with the characters and theres just no surprises in the story at all. like with final fantasy VII When aries died that was a major shocker i mean i wasn't expecting a main character to die.
I also think that losing the world map wasa bad thing, traveling around the world map was one of the best things about the final fantasy series. i admit it wasnt that excillarating when you were walking but when u got your boat, submarine, car and eventually a super quick airshipit was just awesome to go zooming around the world map. sure FFX has an airship but u cant fly it yourself all you do is click the name of a place and yer there. But wheres the fun in that?
Also the newer final fantasy's any fun activity's i mean compare X-2 to FFVII on X-2 u could play blitzball (which was like some football manager game) or sphere break which was just a load of **** i mean if i wanted to do maths i'd go to school or college and study some more maths.
whereas on VII u could play loads of games at the golden saucer raise and race ur own chocobos(the best part of the game in my opinion :p) there was just alot more to do.
anyway I think i've said enough i could complain more about the demise of FFVII but this message is getting long and will probably be deleted so i'll stop now.

Prak
11-22-2006, 05:45 PM
haha. What a stupid cunt.

Lukey
11-23-2006, 02:57 AM
Well firstly, DoC isn't a FF game, it is an FF spin-off game, which is why it only incorporates elements of FF in there.

Secondly, FFX and FFX-2 were two very high quality games IMO, and I found their stories (especially in X's case) much much much more interesting than games like VII and VIII.

Thirdly, it's all too obvious that the only FF game you have got on your mind when comparing the newer games to the 'older' ones is FFVII, as that is the only thing you have referenced in your comparisons. Capped off perfectly in the closing statement where you disregard the rest of the series and change your argument in to being about the 'demise of FFVII'.

Oh, and going to 'school or college and study some more maths'? Dude, you need to learn some proper fucking English before you do that.

ThroneofOminous
11-23-2006, 03:03 AM
Firstly, FFX-2 was made pre-merge. It just has the Square-Enix logo at the beginning because they had already combined when it was localize in the west. Second, even after the merge both SquareSoft and Enix have kept their development teams completely separate; the new direction that many FF games have gone in is in no way influenced by Enix.

Seriously, this has to be the most annoying misconception out there besides FFVII Tech Demo = Remake.

kurohime
11-23-2006, 10:01 AM
he new direction that many FF games have gone in is in no way influenced by Enix.
And probably more influenced by the fact Sakaguchi is no longer at Square.

z.zetsumei
11-24-2006, 08:19 AM
there's also the fact that Enix shareholders received a full 1-to-1 transfer of shares...whereas Square shareholders received slightly less
meaning that Enix actually has more say in what direction they decide to go with in terms of R&D and Production

from the tone of this post, i'd have to say that this is another FFVII fanboy with a joke account...just look at how much shitty his argument is and his post count

Mailbox
11-24-2006, 08:21 AM
haha. What a stupid cunt.

Graffiti
11-24-2006, 09:43 AM
All I'm hearing is: "I THINK FFVII IS LY3K BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHER FF'S B3CAUSE ITS GOT MY FAV CHAR CLOUD. AND BECAUSE I MISS AERIS."


Also:

haha. What a stupid cunt.

z.zetsumei
11-24-2006, 10:05 AM
All I'm hearing is: "I THINK FFVII IS LY3K BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHER FF'S B3CAUSE ITS GOT MY FAV CHAR CLOUD. AND BECAUSE I MISS AERIS."


Also:


don't forget my all-time favorite: "ZOMG!!!111!!1! CLOUD HAS A HUUUUGE SWORD!!11!1!1!!! THAT'S FUCKIN' AWESOME1!1111!!!"

The Anti-Existence
11-24-2006, 10:14 AM
The main thing I have against Square-Enix is the Compilation of FFVII. Thtat's...1 movie (Advent Children) and 3 games (Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus) but the bastards can't fulfill their numerous promises of a new Chrono game. Or a new...anything of a series that is 100x better than FFVII.

z.zetsumei
11-24-2006, 10:15 AM
The main thing I have against Square-Enix is the Compilation of FFVII. Thtat's...1 movie (Advent Children) and 3 games (Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus) but the bastards can't fulfill their numerous promises of a new Chrono game. Or a new...anything of a series that is 100x better than FFVII.

x2

kurai
11-24-2006, 11:06 AM
All I'm hearing is: "I THINK FFVII IS LY3K BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHER FF'S B3CAUSE ITS GOT MY FAV CHAR CLOUD. AND BECAUSE I MISS AERIS."


Also:

Yeah, he's stuck in the past. Embrace the evolution of Final Fantasy and shut the hell up.

ThroneofOminous
11-24-2006, 11:26 AM
The main thing I have against Square-Enix is the Compilation of FFVII. Thtat's...1 movie (Advent Children) and 3 games (Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus) but the bastards can't fulfill their numerous promises of a new Chrono game. Or a new...anything of a series that is 100x better than FFVII.
You shouldn't really blame Square-Enix for that. They keep making FFVII spin-offs because anything FFVII will probably sell 10x better than anything else. It's the logical decision.

Mario Kinnikuman
11-25-2006, 07:56 AM
haha. What a stupid cunt.

x3

Valerie Valens
11-25-2006, 07:58 AM
haha. What a stupid cunt.

x4

Silfurabbit
11-27-2006, 06:35 PM
Well firstly, DoC isn't a FF game, it is an FF spin-off game, which is why it only incorporates elements of FF in there.

Secondly, FFX and FFX-2 were two very high quality games IMO, and I found their stories (especially in X's case) much much much more interesting than games like VII and VIII.

Thirdly, it's all too obvious that the only FF game you have got on your mind when comparing the newer games to the 'older' ones is FFVII, as that is the only thing you have referenced in your comparisons. Capped off perfectly in the closing statement where you disregard the rest of the series and change your argument in to being about the 'demise of FFVII'.

Oh, and going to 'school or college and study some more maths'? Dude, you need to learn some proper fucking English before you do that.

Don't start bitching about FFXII until you've played it.

Prak
11-27-2006, 07:09 PM
I see no mention of FFXII in that post you quoted. Way to look dumb.

Mario Kinnikuman
11-27-2006, 07:13 PM
I see no mention of FFXII in that post you quoted. Way to look dumb.

Ouch!

x2

Magicite Dealer
11-27-2006, 08:00 PM
Before FFXII, i would've agreed that things are going downhill. I mean come on, lousy FFVII spin-offs, FFXI and don't even get me started on FFX-2.
But that was before FFXII.
Luckily it's not all spin-offs and lame sequels, there are also proper FFs out there.

Zulu
11-27-2006, 11:07 PM
I hate it when people like you register to voice a one-dimensional opinion like that. It's pretty simple: If you don't like Final Fantasy, then don't play the games. Don't think it's fashionable to hate on Final Fantasy, 'cos that's SO five years ago.

Seiryuu
12-01-2006, 04:35 PM
This topic is great.

I don't see anything wrong with any of the games, because, if one has sprites, it has a good storyline. Kind of.

Blameless
12-01-2006, 06:53 PM
I am not going to quote Prak.

Jimmy!
12-02-2006, 03:20 AM
I can honestly say that the only final fantasy i really disliked so far was FFX-2

It sounded like Square sold out to a girly squad or something but that´s just my opinion.

Kakarot
12-02-2006, 07:58 AM
haha. What a stupid cunt.

x5


i was also looking at some videos of ffXII and i really dont like the look of the new battle system its to freeformfor my liking if the battle systems keep going like this we will lose the original fighting system of final fantasy altogether and we will be playing a game such as devil may cry or dynasty warriors set in a final fantasy universe.

He might have had a point there, but then he says


sure FFX has an airship but u cant fly it yourself all you do is click the name of a place and yer there. But wheres the fun in that?

Yeah and where's the fun is clicking a few buttons to kill your enemies?


I can honestly say that the only final fantasy i really disliked so far was FFX-2

It sounded like Square sold out to a girly squad or something but that�s just my opinion.

x2, and I also hate XI.

Judge Bergan
02-02-2007, 11:01 AM
Since when did FFVII have fun minigames anyway? I liked the Moogle one, and that was about it. Yet again, a main post made a n00b who never made any reference to the earlier FF's.

Alvinz
02-02-2007, 03:39 PM
Don't judge Final Fantasy BEFORE you listen to the Piano Collections, because really, that is all Final Fantasy is about :D

And just to top it off, the chocobo theme is 100 times more annoying in the piano collections than in the game... because it appears in most, if not all piano collections. MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

jewess crabcake
02-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Since when is it cool to revive pointless threads, with little imput
lol @ every noob who thinks they know FF and how they should reform to their ways.

NorseFTX
02-04-2007, 05:54 AM
There's one thing that I agree with the topic creator on--
When they said, "I also think that losing the world map was a bad thing".

The world didn't seem so much like a "world" any more--but more like a bunch of landmarks with long narrow paths that connect them....
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Revaninja
02-04-2007, 06:56 AM
I have to agree one of my favorite things to do in FF was to discover all the hidden places on the world map and just waste time flying in the Airship. If FFXII had a world map and you could control the Strahl like in FFIX the last FF to have a true world map I would so be all over it like no tomorrow.

z.zetsumei
02-04-2007, 07:01 AM
Don't judge Final Fantasy BEFORE you listen to the Piano Collections, because really, that is all Final Fantasy is about :D

And just to top it off, the chocobo theme is 100 times more annoying in the piano collections than in the game... because it appears in most, if not all piano collections. MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

If the Piano Collections are what the games are all about, don't you think there would be more people that would know how to play more than just the melodies?