300zxJ
11-10-2006, 01:43 AM
ok im using a katana and bow with fran and apparently mystic armor is supposed to boost the attack of a katana because of the bonus magick power... im switching the armor from mystic to heavy against the same monsters and im getting better dmg with heavy.. anyone else noticing anything similar, or different?

dtpena
11-10-2006, 03:12 AM
I still don't know what's the difference of weapon types, I mean I know that:
-1h swords are great because you can use a shield
-Axes have great power but have a chance of lame hits
-Guns ignore the enemy's defense
but katanas, 2h swords, knifes (these must be faster), what's their "special ability"??

300zxJ
11-10-2006, 03:15 AM
I still don't know what's the difference of weapon types, I mean I know that:
-1h swords are great because you can use a shield
-Axes have great power but have a chance of lame hits
-Guns ignore the enemy's defense
but katanas, 2h swords, knifes (these must be faster), what's their "special ability"??

well katanas have good chance of combo hits but ninja swords have an even better chance of this (im gonna have vaan use ninja swords and swords)
but i havent noticed how the bonuses come in with the magic power or anything. using heavy armor the dmg is reduced better than mystic armor but the dmg dealt using the weapon with either is almost pretty much the same but im getting slightly better dmg with heavy armor

range of the long nines
11-10-2006, 02:18 PM
i believe that katanas are raised in dmg by magick power and strength, try with no armor on at all compared to mystic armor, should be a difference.

so str + magick power for katanas. Thats what I heard was in the guide anyways

300zxJ
11-10-2006, 02:23 PM
i believe that katanas are raised in dmg by magick power and strength, try with no armor on at all compared to mystic armor, should be a difference.

so str + magick power for katanas. Thats what I heard was in the guide anyways

ahh that would make sense ill try that

theeoriginal1
11-10-2006, 07:47 PM
"Katana damage is affected by a character's strength and magick power, the katana's attack rating and the opponents defense. Magick power as a factor for a highly powerful weapon adds an interesting twist, allowing a support character geared for magick power to also contribute as a heavy damage dealer."

^^directly from the guide.

Seems like if u have a character with all magick and attack(battle lores) augments mixed with say a high lvl heavy piece of armor(Str Bonus) and a high lvl piece of mystic armor(Magick Power Bonus) using a katana would indeed kick much ass in FF XII

Best Combo
Grand Helm(Hvy) - +12 Str
Lordly Robes(Myst) - +5 Str, +15 Mag Pwr.

Overall u get a +17 Str, +15 Mag Pwr.....best combo for the Katana.....unless

U have a genji helm.....+9 Str, +4 Mag Pwr and u get +56 Evasion.....wow I gotta get this helm

300zxJ
11-10-2006, 08:07 PM
ahhh that is a very nice idea usin hvy n mys, i thought it was just mgk power thanks

dtpena
11-11-2006, 01:40 AM
OMG I think I rediscovered the game now I know about this
Thank you so much!!

Gilthanos
11-11-2006, 01:47 AM
I actually have fran using both mystic and heavy armor.. but I never really paid much attention to those kind of details.. guess I should lol.

300zxJ
11-11-2006, 01:50 AM
I actually have fran using both mystic and heavy armor.. but I never really paid much attention to those kind of details.. guess I should lol.

haha yeah i noticed it right away but i guess i wont be able to tell the difference really till late game.. i have Fran using mystic and heavy as well before i was switching the armor depending on if i had her using bow or katana

Gilthanos
11-11-2006, 01:54 AM
I only pay attention to the little blue numbers that appear.. if I see the blue numbers.. i equip the item. That's basically it.

300zxJ
11-11-2006, 01:56 AM
haha that makes sense

dtpena
11-11-2006, 01:58 AM
I just pressed "optimize" most of the time -_-

Gilthanos
11-11-2006, 01:59 AM
same

300zxJ
11-11-2006, 01:59 AM
... i never did that, i like being able to select everything im putting on my characters

Gilthanos
11-11-2006, 02:01 AM
well i do when i go buy it.. but if i pick up an item in loot i see if it is better than what i'm wearing at the moment.

300zxJ
11-11-2006, 02:02 AM
ahh ic that works

theeoriginal1
11-11-2006, 03:03 PM
optimize is cool but sometimes it overlooks bonus attributes that might come in handy for a particular situation. Say u have a weapon w/ the holy attribute but its a tad weaker than something else w/ say dark element, and all the enemies in that area are undead w/ dark power. That higher rated weapon will suck because ur only gonna do half damage to most enemies.


But I'm sure u knew that.....I like the way u can swap out equip so easily in this FF

Einhander
11-11-2006, 03:12 PM
Ninja Swords+Light Armor+Haste.... Watch That Bastard's HP Fly!!!!

BAM!!!!

9 Hits Baby! Yeah!

vitorio
11-13-2006, 01:55 PM
I also used Katana for Van, to compare with 1h axe... the max damage of the axe is around 600+ but it doesn't work with every swing as sometimes Van swings for 200!!!, with Katana its sold 500 damage which better in overall damage.

About raising magic power and STR for katanas, how do u actually raise the magic power? Through augments of magic or from items? Most armor has a magic resistance for me, I didn't notice any armor with magic power increase or magic hit.

d_empiror
11-13-2006, 02:46 PM
well.....i only have the light armors for vaan-barthiel-fran-penelo,
the heavy for basch and ashe, very classy

also, i switched vaan from sword to katana, penelo from dagger to pole, basch from sword to axe+hammer [well change till i get the heavy sword]
i put spear as a backup for barthiel and crossbow for fran.....

well i am very basic, dont like to change a lot, just stick whith what i have
;-D

dtpena
11-13-2006, 05:32 PM
Ninja Swords+Light Armor+Haste.... Watch That Bastard's HP Fly!!!!

BAM!!!!

9 Hits Baby! Yeah!

add some cat ears or genji gloves and you have the perfect combo

Khronik
11-13-2006, 05:44 PM
About raising magic power and STR for katanas, how do u actually raise the magic power? Through augments of magic or from items? Most armor has a magic resistance for me, I didn't notice any armor with magic power increase or magic hit.

there are a few ways. you can gain magic power through mystic armors, and you can increase your magic potency through the license board. i am not sure if the magic potency actually works, but it seemed to have an effect with mine

vitorio
11-13-2006, 06:10 PM
for now I got a mystic hat for Van and ther others as it has the best DEF.