I'm on a playthrough of FFIX at the moment (my fourth playthrough). I think on the most part the characters are great in FFIX. However, I must take exception with Quina. Can anyone offer any suggestions as to any role s/he has to play in the story? All I can think is that s/he's been put in the game to appeal to younger audiences. Fair enough, but it sort of ruins the game for those of us who don't really want to, for want of a better term, put up with Quina.

I think s/he should have been made an optional character or not put in the game at all. To be honest, the Tantalus members or Beatrix would have made much better full-time additions to the party, as well as having a serious role to play in the story. I really enjoyed the brief spells where you could play as Beatrix too (although having her full-time might have made the game too easy). Same for Marcus and Blank. With Cinna's character they could have given him the Eat and Blue Magic commands and plugged him into the party. Well he does like his South Gate Bundt Cake...... ;-)

I tried to play the game without getting Quina this time but discovered to my disappointment that you have to eventually get him/her when you go to the Outer Continent.

FFIX was a game of few failings, but in my opinion this was one of them.

Quina pissed me off, I'm fully prepared for the inevitable flaming btw.

You know, I thought the same way at first. At the time, all I could think of Quina as was the FF equivalent of Jar Jar Binks. However, I've come to realize a few things since then that make me appreciate the character more.

For one thing, look at the game's tone. It's much lighter and more comical than most of the others. It's only natural that the characters in the party should vary in their degree of absurdity.

Quina fills a comedic archetype that people either love or hate. No one is indifferent to it. However, it was a necessary role. Quina serves to break the tension in a lot of moments where the game threatens to go emo on us or reveal too much at the wrong time, which would naturally ruin its tone. Only something completely absurd and bizarre could possibly serve such a role because it's usable in situations characters with common sense would never intervene in.

Prak summed up my thought on Quina, he plays a much bigger role in the storyline than what meets the gamers' eyes.

Quina is one of the most versatile characters in the game. =-O

I may have missed this in my playthroughs, but while we're on the subject of Qu's, do we ever find out the relationship between Quale and Quan, Vivi's grandfather? I just encountered Quina during the game yesterday evening and I noticed that Quale seems to get defensive when Vivi mentions Quan. Does that lead anywhere or is it just me thinking that it should?

Sometimes he/she was annoying, other times, was....bearable.

I don't think the game would have been the same without him/her.

The most annoying thing about Quina was that he/she appeared to die but came back e.g Cleyra, jumoing into the water at Treno...

Prak summed up my thought on Quina, s/he plays a much bigger role in the storyline than what meets the gamers' eyes.

And also, remember: Quina found Fossil Roo, thus helped Zidane, Vivi and Garnet finding the way to the Outer Continent.


I may have missed this in my playthroughs, but while we're on the subject of Qu's, do we ever find out the relationship between Quale and Quan, Vivi's grandfather? I just encountered Quina during the game yesterday evening and I noticed that Quale seems to get defensive when Vivi mentions Quan. Does that lead anywhere or is it just me thinking that it should?

Quale is Quina's tutor. Quan is Quale's tutor.

There is a hidden sequence that tells more about this when you go to Quan's Cave, if you have both Quina and Vivi in your party. =)

Quina fills a comedic archetype that people either love or hate. No one is indifferent to it. However, it was a necessary role. Quina serves to break the tension in a lot of moments where the game threatens to go emo on us or reveal too much at the wrong time, which would naturally ruin its tone. Only something completely absurd and bizarre could possibly serve such a role because it's usable in situations characters with common sense would never intervene in.

Yes Quina fills a certain role, but there is more than one game that is more enjoyable without that fall back, FFVIII being a prime example. Altough these types of games are leaning towards the old arcade action/horror/mission-based/perfectionist genre, there are games these days that are filling in with jokes and spoofs like the 'recouperation' scene between Snake and a certain female officer in MGS3, and the merchant in Resident Evil 4 that aren't as strong as Quina's. My opinion on this is also supporting the inclusion of Quina in the game because she (it's a she, it just is..look at that apron!) does do it better than VIII's Zell Dincht and X's Wakka (Wen?) but it's probably only because the mood of the story determines the effectiveness of any comedic entries.


I think s/he should have been made an optional character or not put in the game at all. To be honest, the Tantalus members or Beatrix would have made much better full-time additions to the party, as well as having a serious role to play in the story.
Yes it would make some sense to make her an optional character but it wouldn't fit as much as when it was done with Yuffie because there was at least one other optional character (although it was done with only one character in Chrono Trigger with Magus..). And as much as a member of Tantalus or Beatrix are advantageous in your party, it would clash too much with the chibi-ness and unsophisticated portion of the story/world. And Eiko would be thought of more of a brat than she already is.

I put Quina into the game not for any story significance, but just because someone that bizarre deserves some attention. Also, since I suck with the RPGs, I need as much help as I can get and Quina seems useful. Also, I am endlessly amused by Quina, so that factors into it.

But that's just me. If you're not fond of Quina and s/he has no redeeming values for your gameplay experience, don't put him/her in.

Quina Quen --- excellent character! Great in battle, once you build up some of hir abilities. One of the better blue mages.

Yes, this character was mainly comic relief, but I think there were also some serious issues explored with this character as well. And I thought the scene with Quina and Vivi at Quan's Dwelling was excellent.

Yes, this character was mainly comic relief, but I think there were also some serious issues explored with this character as well. And I thought the scene with Quina and Vivi at Quan's Dwelling was excellent.
Like what? Yeah I remember some event where Quina stepped in and said something that had an effect comparable to the bar scene in Team America about there are only three kinds of people in the world, but I'd rather hear a hippy going on about "I was like 'dude.' and she was like 'dude!' and they were like 'dude...'" than hear it from some layman.

Like what? Yeah I remember some event where Quina stepped in and said something that had an effect comparable to the bar scene in Team America about there are only three kinds of people in the world,


I suppose there's going to be spoilers in my response, but I need them for the sake of discussion. :P

Although it's an optional scene, the scene in Quan's dwelling gave a little insight not only into Vivi, Quina, and Quan's past, it even explored Zidane's character a bit. Vivi and Quina were both taught the "power of imagination," and one of the philosophies in that scene was that what someone believes in their mind and soul could be just as powerful as reality. That scene showed that Quina and Vivi were taught a lesson that Zidane hadn't really learned (or believed in) himself, and just explains that people of different cultures often grow up learning different things.

Prak mentioned Quina fulfilling a story archetype, and he/she also fulfills the archetype of not only a "humorous character that you love or hate (a la Jar Jar), but also fulfills a role of "someone who's a race that is very different from the main character(s)," along with Freya (though Freya's people are more or less similar in belief to Zidane.) When they go to Terra, Quina fulfills that role even more when Zidane's sense of racial belonging gets thrown all out of whack. Racism is touched on a bit in FF9, and so is the idea of people learning new ideas from each other, which is why Quina was supposed to go with Zidane's group in the first place.

For the record, Zidane, Dagger, Amarant, Eiko, and Steiner are all considered "human," while Freya is "Burmecian," Quina is "Qu," and Vivi is "Black Mage." There is truly supposed to be a differentiation of races there.



Oh, and as for Quina's usefulness in battle? I seriously use him in battle ALL THE TIME.

When some of the others haven't learned their abilities yet, some of the Blue Magic can be very helpful in battle. Just like Amarant's Chakra. XD Oh, and the Gillionaire ability? HELL YEAH.

I just realized that I accidentally voted "no." :(!

I can't sum it up any better than kurohime. That was an excellent response.

I'll respond on one thing in particular though:


Racism is touched on a bit in FF9, and so is the idea of people learning new ideas from each other, which is why Quina was supposed to go with Zidane's group in the first place.
Yeah, I like how that was touched upon in the ATE "Place To Call Home."

Quina: Zidane, what matter? You no seem yourself.
Zidane: Hmm? Oh, it's nothing. I'm always myself. Besides, it's not just me. You look just like your master, too.
Quina: Of course! Master Quale is Qu Clan! We same!
Zidane: Yeah? I guess everybody looks the same to someone from another race.
Quina: Hmm... Maybe you right. What he say? Same...race?


Quina doesn't entirely understand. But s/he's learning.

Everything said in praise of Quina sums up my ideas. He/She was one of my favorite characters, both battle and development wise.

qiuna is strang but is put into the game to show that ff9 isn't all war and has a sweet side
all in all the wepon hting about her using forks
no i hated that y can't she use ax's
but i liked her mini game

coem to think on it.... i retaek that quina kinda ruined the game anyone would of found the way though the place.
if quina was serious and talked about how s/he's diferant form the other but dosn't mind to comfert vivi then yea s/he'd be good but no s/he's a fuck up

100th final fantasy shrine post

Come to think of it --- start sentences wih capital letters, as I can barely read what you're saying.

grammer dosn't matter
ok now that tahts outa the way lets get this back on topic

Okay, it does matter, and if you think anyone on this site is ever going to give two cracks about you say if you don't use proper formatting and grammar, you're sorely mistaken.


Now that that's out the way, let's get this back on topic. Or should I say "now that tahts outa the way lets get back on topic?" :D

fine u guys do what ever you want. I'm quiting these fourms you guys are all assholes so don't bother respawnding to this post (not the thread jsut hte post)

*high-fives Agent*

*Finds the word "respawnding" much more hilariously amusing than she really should...*

Thats a pretty sweet word,lol.
You all have good arguments about why it should be in the game, like how its important to much of the storyline.
but the question was should it even have been in the game in the first place
If it wasnt we wouldve found out about things other ways, like discovering Fossil Roo.
I personally dont care too much. If I dont like a character I just wont use it.

If it wasnt we wouldve found out about things other ways, like discovering Fossil Roo.

Well, yeah. Of course there COULD have been other ways to find Fossil Roo. Just like if Zidane and everyone else had been turned to stone in the Evil Forest, then someone else would have stopped Queen Brahne. Sure it COULD HAVE happened, but it didn't.

It doesn't really matter if you don't use Quina in battle, there's still a part for him and the Qu's in the storyline and in the FF9 mythos.

Qunia's a sexy beast how can you not like him?

I always thought Quina was good to have around. Plus, some of his forks rock.

And, oh yes, Quina's just such a sexy character!

:orgasm:

:D

I recently discovered that Quina is male.

*spunks*

--EDIT - See post #33

Really? Where's the proof of that? I always thought Quina was a s/he.

I hope for Vivis sake its not male. I always got the two married...

Really? Where's the proof of that? I always thought Quina was a s/he.

Some little chavlet noob posted on here somewhere, apparently one of the dialogue boxes in the game refers to Quina as 'him'. There was a quotation that I seem to recall from the game also.

*hunts for the missing quotation*

EDIT - I can't find the post and the internet is shit generally so I'll be retracting my statement.

I think Zidane may have said "him," once, but even then, that may have only been "him" simply for lack of a better pronoun to use.

I alays thought he was a he. I loved Quina :D

I think its really whatever you want to think. They wanted that air of mystery about it I suppose. It never does clarify.
But remember you can make it marry Vivi...

According to what I've found, and references to what Squaresoft have said, the intention was always there to leave Quina's gender undisclosed.

Fun...

EDIT - What a stupid thing to write. I need to get drunk.

I kind of had a theory about that...
Weve all played games where you think a male would make a better female and vice versa. You wish it were so sometimes because "if he were a chick hed be a kick-ass character" because chicks with swords are cool.
Maybe Square figures with something like Quina people will have their wish, sort of.
I dont know, something like that,lol.

I felt s/he was bit of a comic releif, so whatever. I didn't use her that often, you don't have to use her anyways except for a few mandatory parts where your party splits up.

Hehe, I was always convinced that the Earth Guardian battle (Zidane and Quina only) was payback for everyone who thought Quina was a waste of time to train... ;)

Fun theory! Of course, it rests on the idea that the creators anticipated a possible negative reaction to Quina before the game even came out.

haha...I liked how they made you play Quina there...the first time I played the game I was so mad because I didn't like Quina! Now that I went through it so many times and got it all it's abilities he's way more useful...still not my favorite character but proved a lot better. I also learned to like his weird humor and I always loved his side-game...and I do recall there being a dialoge where Quina is called he instead of he/she.

Hehe, I was always convinced that the Earth Guardian battle (Zidane and Quina only) was payback for everyone who thought Quina was a waste of time to train... ;)

I never had trouble with that battle, and My quina was only like level 20. (Now 30)

I wish i could take quina outa the game and replace s/he with Squall. It would be sweet instead of going thou Fossil Roo He's threw an surprize attack on the black mages. Then they would start beating him Then you go help him and dats where you get him to Join you. Once you leave he Hijacks an airship. Then he see's one of his friends die and he goes back to how he is in FF8. When your at eiko's place he helps her cook. and he dosn't leave your party there.

Anyone like the idea?

I loathe it.

Nice picture agent would you mind if i used it?

Yes, find your own picture. Also, such things should be asked about by private message, not in a thread.

I loathe it.

I concur. :laugh:

Sorry, ruin sword, but that idea is even more outlandish than parts of FFVIII's plot, which is pretty much as 'out there' as they come.

had to laugh after reading this

a bunch of dickheads got together and made pathetic insults like "oh youve got bad grammar" and sounded like nerds and then i laughed and made fools of them, bring every single member you want.

I wish i could take quina outa the game and replace s/he with Squall. It would be sweet instead of going thou Fossil Roo He's threw an surprize attack on the black mages. Then they would start beating him Then you go help him and dats where you get him to Join you. Once you leave he Hijacks an airship. Then he see's one of his friends die and he goes back to how he is in FF8. When your at eiko's place he helps her cook. and he dosn't leave your party there.

Anyone like the idea?

I love how random things are captilized and things that should be are in lower case.

Also what a shitty idea.

a bunch of dickheads got together and made pathetic insults like "oh youve got bad grammar" and sounded like nerds and then i laughed and made fools of them, bring every single member you want.
Those were not just insults. They were also statements of fact.

Quina was an ok character. I'll admit, he/she is not one of my favourites, but I remember using Quina on occasion. He/She is kinda fun with the Cook and Eat ability. I always liked Blue Magic too.

all I could think of Quina as was the FF equivalent of Jar Jar Binks.

My thoughts exactly.

Oh man, Quina is so much more than fucking Jar Jar Binks. For one thing, some seriously deep issues are explored with Quina. For another, Quina is a sight funnier than Jar Jar.

Jar Jar was just retarded. Not funny at all. At least Quina had the gender-bending thing. -_-"

Quina was actually also useful in battle... unlike Jar jar. ;)

There's a s/he at the bar.... I secretly call shim "Quina." Then I laugh......

And the variety of things you could learn with Quina more than made up for s/he's character faults.

Plus it was always a pain in the ass for me to get something weak enough to eat without killing it, so leveling up Quina felt more like a conquest each time.

Quina was actually also useful in battle... unlike Jar jar. ;)
That couldn't be more true.

Hey Jar Jar won that battle did he not, inadvertantly of course, but still! :rolleyes:

I started FF9 again, and have just added Quina to my party after the Dragons Gate at the first Qu's Marsh. I've learned 8 of the abilities so far before the battle with Beatrice in Burmecia, including Mighty Guard (which is very useful but wears off too fast in FF9) and intend on keeping Quina in my party throughout, until every single ability has been learned.

It's great how people make preferences to certain characters and assume others to be inferior just because they are a couple of levels behind the pace when they first arrive in your party!?

My thoughts exactly.

Don't quote me out of context, you fuckwitted faggot.

Quina is partially in for the comedy relief...
<< And I thought that He/She was hilarious, too....

But he/she fits into the story main theme just as all the characters do--
Every character goes through, somewhat, a growth...an experience of going out into the real world and learning what it means to "live"....
I think he/she expresses it in the most "material" way...

Quina's teacher told him this--that he should go out..."eat more foods," to go out and experience the different "tastes and foods" throughout the world. Quina started off living in a small swamp, and thought only of eating frogs, and didn't want to go out into the world as he liked the frogs where he was...
But his master told him to go out...for him to learn that there were more things in the world than just frogs....
And from that, he/she could begin to grow in his/her experience...and as the world opens to him/her, Quina begins to realize why his/her teacher said what they said....

....
Rrghh, this "he/she" thing is annoying me....
I've always thought Quina was a male. >> And I've always thought the marriage between Vivi and Quina was reaallly weird....

Norse --- I usually use the terms "s/he" and "hir," which I saw in a Star Trek book once that featured a character of undetermined or dual gender. It's easier.

just read the post about someone claiming s/he was male on page 2 (i think)

there is a scene either at the start of disk 3 in alexandria/treno/gargan roo or near the end of disk 2 in either the Iifa tree/madain sari/conde petit where eiko calls it a he.
im playing through at the moment and im just about to start the card tournament in treno disk 3 and i saw it in the last 2-3 days.

it might be in an optional ATE hence why some people havent seen it.

but yeah, quina does get called a he :)

(i guess gay marriages are legal in conde petit then...)

Whilst in Alexandria (around about the time of the Master of the Hunt event), the man who sells Ghysal Greens refers to Quina as "he".

As I've stated before, I think some people in the game call Quina a "he" because they don't know what else to call hir. But other times, Quina's gender is referred to as being ambiguous. So I think Quina is still a s/he.

3 pages later im still talked about

3 pages later and you're still a cunt.

Discussion on Quina's most comical scenes/dialogue anyone? The scene in Memoria, next to Odins synth shop, where s/he beleives s/he's in water and suddenly can't breathe. Doesn't sound so funny put like that, but it is.

The scenes with Vivi, Quina and Quale in Quan's Dwelling. The scenes between Zidane and Quina in which they talk about members of the "same race."

Guess where the first result from a Google search for 'Quina Quen quotes' leads to? (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=quina+quen+quotes&meta=) This thread. lol.

Quina: Ah, Zidane. You want go with me!
Zidane: Well... I sort of got stuck with the leftovers...
Quina: You no have to explain! I so happy.
Zidane: Huh?
Quina: There old saying in my tribe... Leftovers good!

World only have two things: Things you can eat and things you no can eat.

"F..Frog... Is talking.. Maybe I eat it?"
Quina (regarding Cid).

"Ayia! We almost flat like pancake!"

"This light make me feel like I become pot roast!"

"Is stone edible? Or is for barbeque?"


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The scenes with Vivi, Quina and Quale in Quan's Dwelling. The scenes between Zidane and Quina in which they talk about members of the "same race."

That's a great scene, one that tells you alot about Quina's character.

The only thing that made me beleive Quina was female if anything was that you could marry it to Vivi.

Guess where the first result from a Google search for 'Quina Quen quotes' leads to? (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=quina+quen+quotes&meta=) This thread. lol.
:) FFShrine ranks very highly on Google.

Indeed. I expected a few more sites dedicated to Final Fantasy quotes however.

i didn't like Quina as a character, i found him(/her) quite annoying, always with the eating. it's all he/she talked about.
but it's true, Quina's useful in battles. he/she got some strong moves, and he/she has helped us in the game. so i guess Quina should be in the game.
some people like Quina, some don't. matter of personal choice.

i didn't like Quina as a character, i found him(/her) quite annoying, always with the eating. it's all he/she talked about.
but it's true, Quina's useful in battles. he/she got some strong moves, and he/she has helped us in the game. so i guess Quina should be in the game.
some people like Quina, some don't. matter of personal choice.

I felt the same way also early. Quina did some really selfish things and was either oblivious or just didn't care who else was affected or hurt.(Like when s/he was rude to the citizens of the Cleyra). When first introduced, Quina practically begs Zindane to catch a frog. Quale sees what happened and realized Quinia is a spoiled child in an adult's body. I think part of the reason why hir teacher sent Quina out into the world was so s/he could grow up a lot.

I liked Quina as a character...to help liven up the story...to not make it so...emotional like; but I didn't care for it in battle, their multitude of magic it could learn was a neat and fun mini game of sorts, but one I didn't find all that useful. But the comical scenes were inviting to not make such a melodramatic game though...so it has it's ups and downs...but for that matter, don't they all?

You must have never experienced the joy of whammying all monsters in Kuja's castle with L5 Death, or using Pumpkin Head / Limit Glove / Auto-Life in a playthrough to obtain the Excalibur II (a standard recommended strategy for anyone going for that weapon.)

Not to mention Magic Hammer has got to be one of the most fun spells to cast. Like, EVER.

Try it on Ozma. ;)

"No".

I think Quina is one of the most annoying, useless characters in this series. That's just me though.

Boy, I just love these statement posts without any useful or meaningful opinion to back them up.

You must have never experienced the joy of...Limit Glove...

I had this one, never used it though, what exactly does it do?

Offhand, I seem to recall that if Quina's HP is one, this does 9999 damage. Wonderful when used in conjunction with Auto Life. Using it with Phoenix Down is a bit more problematic because Phoenix Downs were weird in this game. They restored like anywhere from 1-10 HP and the amount restored was random.

Limit Glove

Causes 9999 damage when Quina's HP is at 1.


Agent's right.

By the way, you can check out all of Quina's Blue Magic here (http://ffonline.com/ff9/quina.htm).

Does that really help to beat ozma?! I've never been able to beat him...my characters levels are in the 70-80's though. And I had a tendancy to take Quina with me on the other party to help even out the partys...it was never one of my strong characters thanks to the very wide range of physical attack damage it had...and I mostly use physical attacks in my games.

Being able to cause an automatic 9999 HP damage hit for a pittance of MP is nothing to sneeze at (at the most it'll cost 5, and in the right circumstances less). I liked Quina, a hell of a lot more than I did Dagger.

The only thing strange were his stats; he pretty much would have had to spend the entire time wearing a Light Robe and Running Shoes so his Speed and Spirit stats would go up faster as he leveled. His starting Spirit was just -awful-.

I have a question, do you even have to get him, or can you just pass him up? because I played a while and i saw my roomate had another char that I didn't have, and I went back to get him. Just curious...

Hehe, I was always convinced that the Earth Guardian battle (Zidane and Quina only) was payback for everyone who thought Quina was a waste of time to train... ;)

Regarding that battle, did anyone get to eat the earth guardian? Quina wanted to try to eat him before he was finished off, and I didn't get to, did anyone?

I have a question, do you even have to get him, or can you just pass him up? because I played a while and i saw my roomate had another char that I didn't have, and I went back to get him. Just curious...

Yes, you do have to have Quina join your party in order to get to Fossil Roo.

Quina is awesome he is the best party member in FFIX his spells are briliant and helped me out alot.

Yes, Quina is required for Fossil Roo and later on, s/he will eventually rejoin your party on Disc 3 when you get the Blue Narciss, regardless of what choices you make. The idea that Quina is an optional character is a misconception. There is one time that you can choose not to have hir in the party and that's towards the beginning when you first have the chance to get hir.

Heh hir.

The idea of a party with Quina in it has been nagging at me for a long time. I think I'll finally try it, if you fellow Shriners vouch for his/her usefulness.

Out of battle (where I had no clear idea of his/her usefulness) I always liked Quina. The character provided a good amount of comic relief to the game.

Always, and ALWAYS, stop at Qu's Marsh (all of them) and catch frogs. But if you leave one adult male and female, there will be more there the next time you show up. I also believe that if you leave one there for a long time, you get a gold frog, I don't know the purpose, but it's cool.

BTW, does anyone know the purpose of the gold frogs?

The purpose of the gold frog is to stimulate hot, steamy frog sex.

No, I'm serious. If you leave one female frog, one male frog, and one goldn frog, it increases the repopulation rate of that marsh even more. So the moral of the story is, "leave the golden frog alone."

Thats kinda freaky! But whatever works, right? Thanks for the info.

Yeah, if you see the golden frog, don't ever catch the golden frog. Bad, bad idea. You want to leave the golden frog right there where it is so it can work its magic.

Damn, Now I wish I hadn't caught the 2 I found. But I am pretty sure they will come back, right?

Well, perhaps eventually. I think it's a bit random. And I've noticed that it's possible for the golden frog to simply disappear from a Marsh, even if you don't catch it.

Really? Thats weird. Oh well, maybe i'll wait for them to show up. Maybe the female frog eats the golden frog after it mates. haha

I hear it tastes like chicken.

Yeah i hate when the gold frog disapears as i am trying to make quinas frog drop more powerfull and you have to be in a cave or another location other than the world map for the frogs to start reproducing which is kind of anoying.

I've experienced that it doesn't really matter if you catch the Golden Frog or not, it will occasionally disappear.

So, you have to be off the world map? that sucks.

Yeah a bit stupid if you ask me i guess it means no standing out side a marsh waiting for frogs to reproduce and even worse frogs take FOREVER to reproduce

This is why I always make sure to catch frogs early and as often as possible.

This is why I always make sure to catch frogs early and as often as possible.
I do the same thing. Things seem to pick up haste later in the game, but it's definitely a good idea to start catching frogs as early as possible.

Most frogs I ever captured has been about 240 and that was near the end of the game so, getting to 9,999 would require to capture them early indeed. I think getting into random battles often encourages frogs to appear.

I admit, I usually stop catching frogs once Frog Drop is maxed at 9999. I think the most I've caught on a single savefile is maybe 150. Cause frog-catching is fun, even if you don't get anything for it anymore, but there's a limit to how far I'm willing to go.

I admit, I usually stop catching frogs once Frog Drop is maxed at 9999. I think the most I've caught on a single savefile is maybe 150. Cause frog-catching is fun, even if you don't get anything for it anymore, but there's a limit to how far I'm willing to go.

I got about 175 frogs, and that was just because I was bored out of my mind at first waiting for my mate to give me disc 2 back so I could play on it. I just sat in Qu's Marsh, without going through Gizamaluke until I was about Level 50 odd. Took easily 100 frogs from there waiting. And I used the usefulness of an auto controller and the continuously reproducing Plant Spiders in Evil Forest. Just stand there and get it to just use Attack on them. Leave it for about 48 hours, come back and I'm Level 30, with a hell of a lot of potions and hi-potions.

I don't think I could go on after reaching the maximum, you must be very dedicated. Although, to contradict myself I will admit I continuously play Chocobo Hot & Cold way after reaching the maximum level possible because as you say both of them are very fun and addictive. Beats drugs. ;)

Oh, Chocobo Hot and Cold is the best minigame in FFIX easily. In fact, it may be the best minigame in all of FF, period. I adore Hot and Cold and will play it even after maxing the level too.

To be honest, I didn't know about Frog Drop the first time I went through this game, needlessly to say, I was quite surprised later on.

I got Frog Drop, didn't know it depended on your number of frogs collected until I accidentally selected it. With over 175 frogs collected, it did 9999 every hit.

It's actually a multiple of frogs X level. You can have as many frogs caught as you want, but you want to keep Quina leveled well too, otherwise, it's not going to do 9999.

Frog catching and chocobo hot and cold were great minigames i would spend hours finding all the chocographs and increasing the power of frog drop i forgot all about the main quest.