pro_newb
10-25-2006, 12:00 PM
Hey guys. I would just like to ask what are and how do you get "mist knacks." I'm currently more or less playing it for 12 of total gaming time and I am hearing too much about these "mist knacks." What are they?
Thanks
-newb

Magester
10-25-2006, 01:35 PM
Mist Knacks are like Overdrives of FFX, Trances of FFIX and Limit Breaks of FFVIII. They can be found on the License Board of each character, usually at the corners. There are a total of eighteen Mist Knacks, three for each character (but you decide who get which one).

Once a character purchases a Mist Knack on the License Board, that Mist Knack dissapears from all other Boards.

The first Mist Knack any character gains will require one entire MP bar to cast. When that character gets a second Mist Knack, each one will require only half the MP bar to cast. When a character has three, it only takes a third of an MP bar for each Knack.

These moves are ultra powerful specials, but there is no significant change in their power between characters (except for the addition of elemental damage for some characters). This means that it doesn't really matter who gets which one.

Does this help?

pro_newb
10-25-2006, 01:42 PM
Yes. This helps, very much. But I have another question. There are those things in the board called "Quickenings" which can also be learned only by 1 character. Does this mean those "Quickenings" are actually the "Mist Knacks?"

mighty_aeons
10-25-2006, 07:03 PM
Yup... It is the same... But what I hate from this 'Mist Knacks' thing is that it use MP. So when you face an extremely hard boss and used it, your MP will be drained out and your MP will go zero. And if that nasty boss didn't die... You better pray... Same as Mist Knacks, Summons are also using MP to be releashed. So you will think twice before using Those Mist Knacks and Summons.

Gilthanos
10-26-2006, 06:04 AM
i hope that they are prettier than any other game.

abe123
10-29-2006, 08:44 PM
when you select to do a quickening from the menu, everything will pause and it will only focus on the character you picked to do the quickening. If you wondering how it works, when you do a quickening a time bar comes up and on the bottom left corner of your t.v screen it says press R2 to shuffle and you are supposed to press R2 as fast as you can before time runs out. The more presses you get the more damage you do.

dtpena
10-29-2006, 10:58 PM
when you select to do a quickening from the menu, everything will pause and it will only focus on the character you picked to do the quickening. If you wondering how it works, when you do a quickening a time bar comes up and on the bottom left corner of your t.v screen it says press R2 to shuffle and you are supposed to press R2 as fast as you can before time runs out. The more presses you get the more damage you do.

It's not exactly like that. I will explain Mist Knacks/Quickenings deeply.

First, when you earn the required License Points (LP) to "buy" a certain Quickening ability from the License Board, you can do it, and it doesn't matter where the quckening is in the license board, every character gets his own quickening, in other words, from the 18 possible quickening spots, if you unlock the one at North West of the license board for Vaan, he will learn the same Mist Knack that if you unlock the one at South East of the board (the first one should be red spiral or something like that). Fran, Balthier and everyone else will have different lv1,2 and 3 mist knacks, and those are the ONLY attacks that can't be used by all other chars.

With summons is basically the same, but you choose who gets which summon (not like Mist knacks, you can't choose to give red spiral to Vaan or Fran, because it's Vaan's ability, but you can give Belias to any of them).

To be able to do a Mist ability (be it Summoning or Mist knack) you must have a full MP bar, then the game pauses and you enter the "mist mode".

During a Mist Knack you will notice 3 things:
-Time bar counting down
-The names of your other party members with a button assigned to them
-R2 button that says "shuffle"

The character that selected the mist ability will start to perform it, and before the time runs out, you can press the button that shows in the screen with the name of other party members and if that character is able to do a mist knack it will link both of them, making a combo. Those combos can be very, very long (I've made a 8-hit long one but i'm just starting), but the difficulty resides in 2 parts. First the counter is every time faster and faster, and second, sometimes no button is assigned to other characters of your active party, and that's when you need to press R2 to shuffle things up and hope it assigns buttons to them now. If it doesn't you can keep shuffling till it appears, but careful with the timer.

When a character has more than 1 mist knack learned, he multiplies his mp by the number of quickenings he has (if he had 200 mp and learns his second quickening, he now has 400 mp, and for the third he has 600 mp!!! that you can use on anything, not just mist knacks, so it's a great, GREAT way to make some easy mp space) and it will divide in 2 or 3 bars. To make a lv1 quickening you empty just one bar, for a lv2 you need to have full 2 bars that empty themselves when you do it and the same for lv3, so when you have a boss fight and don't want to be without mp after the mist ability is performed, you can make a lv2 mist knack even if you have 3 full bars, so you can keep one full bar to heal, do magic, or cast bubble (which is the BEST spell EVER).

And that's all, most of the time quickenings have names that seem to be of some element but to this time i don't think they have elemental properties (this has to be confirmed)

Gilthanos
10-30-2006, 12:01 AM
Mist Knacks and Quickenings are going to be a complicated, yet rewarding experience of the game. If you get the strategy guide, it explains it quite well, however it's still kinda hard to really see it without doing it.

Sackboy
10-30-2006, 12:11 AM
gametrailers.com has a clip of some of the characters using quickenings.

Gilthanos
10-30-2006, 12:35 AM
ugh.. always get cool links when I'm at work. I can't view that here. >,<!!

mighty_aeons
11-02-2006, 06:16 AM
Wow... I never thought that someone will actually learn about mist knacks so serious. I'm confused 'bout how the mist knacks drained MP. I'll give you an example... If I use Fran's third mist knacks... What was it? 'SHATTERED HEART'? And Then I use Someone's third mist knack also. I repeated It until 12 combos and when it ended. Someone's MP, for example Vaan, I still got one bar left. Any explanation for this?

dtpena
11-02-2006, 05:40 PM
That's because you didn't use a 3rd level mist knack with Vaan (inside the combo mode), so his bar doesn't emtpy completely. That's my experience so far.

Gilthanos
11-02-2006, 11:49 PM
Mist knacks can make or break a fight. I learned about them quite tediously. Now I am pretty good at them. The most damage I've dealt so far is 29800 damage on a boss character that had twice that amount. Tiamat. That guy was tough.

vitorio
11-08-2006, 03:18 PM
I got the first Mist Ability with Bacsh but I think the max combo I got was 3 combos?!!‎

Anyway, I don’t even know how I did it, I all did is press R2 and when the triangle icon ‎appear I spammed it. But another time the triangle didn’t appear and it ended up shooting ‎one hit of 400 damage :/‎

dtpena
11-08-2006, 06:25 PM
just read above, if the *button* icon doesn't appear, then hit R2 to "roll the dice" again and again
it's said that if you keep R2 pressed it keeps rolling and yo have to be superfast to hit the button, but I rather wait till it stops, see if there's something to press and if not, R2 again.

mighty_aeons
11-09-2006, 03:11 PM
Has any of you fight 'Hell-Wyrm' just yet? Wait 'till you see it's HP... Millions guys... Mist knacks??? I don't think so... Hohoho... Still not enough? Wait 'till you see Montblanc last mark...