Why does the Square-Enix want to change the system of the game. It look like a shit RPG game now. I hate it. The stupit FFXII really disappointed.
Why don't they make like how they make FF 10,9,8,7....

I really disappointed

i dont know where youve been but the ff rpg system has been going downhill since ff IX.

maybe even ff VIII

Right, despite the fact FFX-2 had the best battle system of any FF game so far? :rolleyes:

oh, and Magneto, use the edit button rather then double-posting please.

Why does the Square-Enix want to change the system of the game. It look like a shit RPG game now. I hate it. The stupit FFXII really disappointed.
Why don't they make like how they make FF 10,9,8,7....

I really disappointed

Sure, if you like to play rehashes of the same engine. The thing is, any gamer worth their salt would be bored with playing with the same battle engine over a span of 10 or so games. A little variety is good, stagnation is bad.

With 'fans' like this goober, it's amazing the FF series has progressed beyond FFVII's "quality."

changes is good, that's why ff still remain as a great game

wait, have you played ffxii?

Since when are VII's and X's battle system's alike? They're two completely different engines.

I had no idea so many people were opposed to ffVII. Not just the battles, but the characters too. Its like ffVII has gone out of fashion or something.
Well i still love it.
I wonder if theres a thread about the new Secret of Mana games coming out?

Most people here like to talk about facts and not "fashion" ;)

ekinsergee is right, changes are needed.

by "fashion" i meant it has lost popularity since square has been milking the hell out of it.

Yes i know what u mean, but the thing is that most funboys are kicked out of conversations because they cannot seperate the meaning of facts and opinion. At least thats the idea i have got for this site. But its nice to see ppl changing opinions here :)

I want kingdom hearst 2 damnit!
get released already!
sorry just had to. FF XII looks cool, especially free moving camera! :)

Why does the Square-Enix want to change the system of the game. It look like a shit RPG game now. I hate it. The stupit FFXII really disappointed.
Why don't they make like how they make FF 10,9,8,7....

I really disappointed
You've already played FFXII?

Is it released in U.S.A. already? Or do you live in Japan?

Or you're just going by the pictures of the battle system of FFXII in the internet? And you have never tried it?

According to her location indicator, she's in Australia.

And Kingdom Hearts II is already out in the United States and Japan and has been for some time. Not sure about availability in Australia though.

^ KHII isn't even out yet here. I think it comes out in a couple weeks.
The point is Australia has to wait ages to get games so there is no way that this person has played FFXII - The english version was only completed like last week.

And I'm looking forward to FFXII - the new battle system looks fantastic! I think it's a great idea. If you like the old battle systems you can always go back and play one of the first 10 games again.

Oh an Magneto - stay on topic.

From what I have seen of Final Fantasy XII, the battle system seems pretty neat.

What I'm worried about with this system is if I be lazy and avoid all the "random" battles then get my ass whomped repeatedly over boss battles :/
And yeah not long now till KH2!! XD

actually, if you don't want to battle too much, it's okay as long as you manage to arrange your license board well

for example, even if you are in level 30 or above, but you equip low power weapon and accesories, you'll be doomed

levelling up will not increasing your stats, but it gives you points to use it in the license board

If you've played the actual game you m ight not feel that way. Believe me the demo sucks. When you get a handle on how it actually plays it helps out alot. I was scared as to how the game was going to handle and I didn't like the change in systems. However, this change is really good and I wholeheartedly enjoy it.

and the gambit system is incredibly cool

although i didn't understand what it say, i manage to set one gambit which when someone's hp decreased to below 70%, someone will automatically cure it by using cure magic, not with potion

Sure, if you like to play rehashes of the same engine. The thing is, any gamer worth their salt would be bored with playing with the same battle engine over a span of 10 or so games. A little variety is good, stagnation is bad.

And if you do wish to play rehashes of the same game engine with an enjoyable and engaging story line, then DragonQuest is the game series for you!

From what i have seen(screens and videos)the game looks awesome.
I don't know about the gameplay since i haven't played it yet(i have to wait until february...)
I'm curious though if the battle system will have any similarities with FFTactics...I hope not because i like to see new things.

I saw a game the other day that was offering a demo of Final Fantasy XII, but I didn't buy it. I don't suppose there's a downloadable demo for the PC anywhere?

Why does the Square-Enix want to change the system of the game. It look like a shit RPG game now. I hate it. The stupit FFXII really disappointed.
Why don't they make like how they make FF 10,9,8,7....

I really disappointed

I not speak English good. lol

I not speak English good. lol

Im such a prick. I actually found this funny and laughred my way to the kitchen.

there is no downloadable version for the PC lol. Mainstream FF hasn't been on the PC since FFVIII. The demo wasn't all that great anyway.

Just as the rest of you I am excited bout the release but the thing that is bugging me most is the fact that what if like in ffx the leveling grid (sphere grid and the license board in ff12) is extremely confusing at first and not until a little more than half way through the game do you finally realize that holy shit i understand how to do it now but I skipped so many sphere slots due to the lack of lvling spheres and such that I am virtually screwed anyone agree

The sphere grid was very easy for me. I just didn't pass anything up. Later on down the road I ended up making Lulu get Holy and made Yuna get Ultima.

Once you use the liscense board ONCE and see that you get LP from every kill. You will realize it is extremely easy to do anything you want. Trust me.

The liscense board is so easy, I figured it out and it wasn't even in English. It was all Japanese, but seriously.. it was very easy.

wow that makes 2 of us (except the License board didn't know that) anyways thnx for clearing that up

was that sarcasm?

no that was honesty (sarcasm doesn't really work through text) anyways 26 days til the release in the US

I'm looking forward to playing....I don't want it to be just like any previous FF games...different battle systems are a good thing as far as I'm concerned...

no that was honesty (sarcasm doesn't really work through text) anyways 26 days til the release in the US

Ah, I see. Yes I am also excited about the release. I can't seem to keep myself busy enough to take my mind off of it.

One thing I've always liked about FF is that every game is different. Different world, different system, different feel, yet same name. They could have very well have changed the name every time and it would have been ok. Just had the traditional S/E mascots, Moogles and Chocobos. :)

and Cid! ;)

And hopefully, Prologue (Theme of Final Fantasy.) I missed it in X/X-2.

Ya the theme would be nice! Remind me of where it was in FFVIII, maybe in the gameover theme?

No, it was in the closing credits, as it is usually is, right after the end of "Eyes on Me."

I love the traditional FF ending credit song that comes on later. I oot goosebumps when I heard it at the end of FFVII.

I just reserved my copy of FFXII today.

Oh man, I am so excited for this game.

But until it is released I am going to have to deal with playing Super Mario RPG haha.

I love the traditional FF ending credit song that comes on later. I oot goosebumps when I heard it at the end of FFVII.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's The Prologue, a.k.a. Theme of Final Fantasy.

;663897']I just reserved my copy of FFXII today.

Oh man, I am so excited for this game.

But until it is released I am going to have to deal with playing Super Mario RPG haha.

NIce... I had mine reserved since like 2004. HAHA.. i've had to deal with the delays. Did you get it from Gamestop or EBGames? The collector's edition tin and collector's edition strat guide is well worth it IMO. I'm so excited that I haven't even been wanting to play my XBox 360 so I've picked up Titan Quest again. lol

Ah.. yeah I love that song. Bah bah BAH bah BAHHHHH bah bah bah ba-ba-ba-ba BAAAHHHHHHH BAAHHHHH... lol!

I had mine reserved some weeks ago, but I got a call 2 days ago that the shipping wast lost, so I have to order again... <_<'

hmmm.. that sucks. I just pre-ordered it at the store.

Did you get it from Gamestop or EBGames?

Gamestop.

Why? Is there a difference I am not aware about?

Gamestop and EBGames are the only ones that are offering the collector's edition.

Personaly I like the change. I wouldn't keep it for all games, but it is a nice change.

i'm pretty excited. this will (hopefully) be the first final fantasy since I was nine that the ending won't be ruined for me. This time I won't answer the phone....
7) OMG! She DIED!?
8) time travel (wtf?)
9) alien monkey
10)HE'S NOT REAL!!!!!
10-2) Yuna's a tramp! well....yeah

this will (hopefully) be the first final fantasy since I was nine that the ending won't be ruined for me.
7) OMG! She DIED!?
8) time travel (wtf?)
9) alien monkey
10)HE'S NOT REAL!!!!!
10-2) Yuna's a tramp! well....yeah

That's too true. I rofled at "Yuna's a tramp"!

I never finished X-2. What she do?

Nothing. Her being "a tramp" simply refers to her somewhat skimpier style of dress and actually going out and having some fun. Oh, and I suppose maybe the infamous "hot springs" scene.

with her making out with pretty boy?

But does she ever get laid? Has the b*tch popped that cherry? lol. Okay I should digress.

lol... that's all i gotta say.... lol

with her making out with pretty boy?
No, with her, Rikku and Paine stripping their outfits down to bathing suits and having some largely innocent fun.

whoa.... that's interesting.

C'mon guys, didn't you see her make eyes at Gippal? And what about how giddy she was around Baralai? Don't EVEN get me started on Brother.
(Brother=cousin=incest). I think if one of them actually pursued her, she'd drop the Tidus hunt.

I heard that FFXII was one of the best selling games in japan. Also, the newest battle system is supposed to be a ton of fun. This is said to be one of the best FF's so far

supposed to be. We'll see. I have high hopes for it, but I already don't like the summon system all that much. We'll see. I still can't wait and EBgames by me is having a midnight launch.

Hi Guys,

I've been playing this game for a week now (illegal pre-release english iso). I just have to say, stop talking about it and get ready to be thrilled. The game is simply amazing. I avoided all online spoilers about the game. You have to go into it without knowing what the story or system is.

At first I was like, what's with the crappy battle system, and the slowly after 4 or 5 hours of play you discover new things. The gameplay elements start falling into place and your options grow. The battle system is simply amazing.

But I'm worried that you keep talking about a game and judging it, and then you ruin the whole experience for yourself. Just play the game without any prior judgement. Trust me, you'll be in for a great surprise.

Hey, I ain't judgin'. I am ready for this thing! Twelve more days, bring it on!

I've been counting down the days until i get ffXII. I kind of skipped over 11 because I didn't have an interest in it (is it good?). But the only spoiler I've had from 12 is the opening. And I saw a trailer when an esper was summoned that's all. I'm never disappointed with final fantasy games, okay 10-2 was a bit disappointing.

I got this from an issue of Play magazine I picked up the other day.


Where towns in past installments were home to a few dozen residents, FFXII's cities teem with thousands of digital souls. Where players in past games have traveled from cities to dungeons by selecting there destination from a map, FFXII fills in the gaps by providing mile apon scale mile of scorching deserts, frozen tundras and windswept plains to explore. The traditional Final Fantasy world map is gone, replaced by an actual world. That's a common trend in online games, of course, but FFXII's environments aren't the bland wastelands of FFXI; they easily match FFX for level of detail, dispite the tenfold increase in quantity. While the level of detail may match, FFX's bright, colorful palette has been replaced here with gritty earth tones, giving the environments a look that borders at times on photorealism."

I can't tell you how long I've waited for a FF game like this. However 2 things the writer failed at.


but FFXII's environments aren't the bland wastelands of FFXI

His character must hail from Bastok like mine. There's a lot of traveling to do before you see more then a square-foot of grass.


Where players in past games have traveled from cities to dungeons by selecting there destination from a map,

Last I remember, it was only FFX and X-2 that did that. But I kinda see where he/she is going with it.

Does anyone know when FFXII is coming out in England? The wait is killin' me. Just a quick note: Yuna can make out with Brother if she wants. The two are so different (Brother looks nothing like Cid, Rikku or Yuna), I'm pretty sure they are totally unrelated. As I said in another post, he was probably adopted or mistaken for a human and taken in by cid or something like that.

I am so envious of you guys in America and Australia and Japan (basically everywhere else). Things move slowly in England. Oh, KHII just came out here, but it's damned expensive. I'll just wait for FFXII as I didn't really get into KH.

Hi Guys,

I've been playing this game (japanese). I just have to say, stop talking about it and get ready to be thrilled. The game is simply amazing. I avoided all online spoilers about the game. You have to go into it without knowing what the story or system is.

At first I was like, what's with the crappy battle system, and the slowly after 4 or 5 hours of play you discover new things. The gameplay elements start falling into place and your options grow. The battle system is simply amazing.

But I'm worried that you keep talking about a game and judging it, and then you ruin the whole experience for yourself. Just play the game without any prior judgement. Trust me, you'll be in for a great surprise.

heh.. good luck not talking about one of the most anticipated games of the year.