Has anyone else ever played this game? I just played the translated version for the first time, an I must say, this game is exceptional, at least on par with Seiken Densetsu 2 (secret of mana in the US), if not better. So, whatcha all think?

In my opinion its a fantastic game. One of the best, if not the game for the SNES

<font face="lucida calligraphy" size="2">I loved Secret of Mana, although I never got to play the other one... ><

Yes it was an excellent game. I liked every moment of the gameplay, and thought the game couldn't get mmuch better.

I like to play it :D ,but it' only in SNES :(

I like magic system,like Undine, or gnome.I used to play it with my brother

Seiken Densetsu 3 was good, but it ain't no Secret of Mana. I found it a little more frustrating than its predecessor.

Ah, yes, SD3! Excellent game. You might have made it a little difficult or frustrating depending on who you played as. Duran tends to get the crap beaten out of him, because he's a subpar fighter with no magic. On the other hand, Kevin and Hawk can rip through enemies. Also, using a party with both Angela and (insert Cleric's name here) can get really challenging.

It's really customizable, and you can play 3 different storylines... the only frustrating part is that EVERYONE has to fight the Mana Beasts. And take it from me - the Moon beast WILL destroy you.

I found that at times I just had to take a break from it. I just couldn't go through a cave, fight a big monster, warp out of the cave, then go 'all' the way back to the town to talk to the person who sent you on the quest. I just found the battle system to get frustrating after long periods of time. I may get yelled at for that last sentence though.:rolleyes:

The battle system is alright, I did find it better than SoM1's battle system though. You don't have to wait for 100% again and again and again and again. SOM2FREAK did a great job translating this game and a few other noteable RPGs (one of them being FF3j)

I wish I could play this on my SNES Rom Dumper... but since the Translated version of the game keeps changing resolution and the added text (which made it about 38 or 42 MB... the cart size I meant), it's nearly impossible to play it on anything else other than the SNES9X Emuator.

This explains why Square refused to sell this in America, the rom size would be so big that people might have to fork out upwards to 100 bucks just to buy the game on it's release date. Square didn't want to invest that much money on it either since the game itself isn't really up to that point where they would say that this game will equal up to Chrono Trigger sales for the SNES.

I just hope that Squaresoft does another compiliation of the Mana Series (sans Legend... I hope) and release it for the PSX.

Originally posted by Dj MogK'
The battle system is alright, I did find it better than SoM1's battle system though. You don't have to wait for 100% again and again and again and again. SOM2FREAK did a great job translating this game and a few other noteable RPGs (one of them being FF3j)

I wish I could play this on my SNES Rom Dumper... but since the Translated version of the game keeps changing resolution and the added text (which made it about 38 or 42 MB... the cart size I meant), it's nearly impossible to play it on anything else other than the SNES9X Emuator.

This explains why Square refused to sell this in America, the rom size would be so big that people might have to fork out upwards to 100 bucks just to buy the game on it's release date. Square didn't want to invest that much money on it either since the game itself isn't really up to that point where they would say that this game will equal up to Chrono Trigger sales for the SNES.

I just hope that Squaresoft does another compiliation of the Mana Series (sans Legend... I hope) and release it for the PSX.

Whoa there, cowboy! Err, there is DEFINITELY a 4- or 5-meg version of this rom, and it's pretty common. I used to have it myself, before my HD died and I was forced to use *shudder* public computer rooms at NCSSM.

I must say, the one thing I really loved were the bosses. The graphics of some of them were comparable to some of the Playstation's. Maybe not, heh, just my oppinion.

Originally posted by MasteroftheObvious


Whoa there, cowboy! Err, there is DEFINITELY a 4- or 5-meg version of this rom, and it's pretty common. I used to have it myself, before my HD died and I was forced to use *shudder* public computer rooms at NCSSM.

Megabytes and Megabits are 2 different things =P

Originally posted by Sanosuke
Seiken Densetsu 3 was good, but it ain't no Secret of Mana. I found it a little more frustrating than its predecessor.

I agree. SOM was good but I just couldnt get into this one much at all. Not exactly sure why. But there you go...

Originally posted by Dj MogK'


Megabytes and Megabits are 2 different things =P

Only different in the sense of MB, which you used, versus Mb, which you apparently meant. :notgood:

*throws MotO in the trashcan*

=P

Sorry if I didn't make that clear ;_;

I dunno. I kind of liked the battle system. All the charging in SOM was too repetitive for me, although I love the game. Plus, I like the class advancement in this game...

I found it a pretty cool game especially class changing, the battle system required a bit of getting used to but the story was cool.

I actually found it better than both SOM and CT. Dunno why, but I just loved everything about it. My party consisted of Duran, Hawkeye and Angela.

I prefered Kevin, Duran and Carlie.

Originally posted by MogKnight


Megabytes and Megabits are 2 different things =P

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a byte is 8 bits... thus 48 Mb would be equal to 6 MB???

Anyway, I loved the game, it's so awesome...

Everyon forgot to mention the Job Class system, how you can branch out to different classes, but the changes were permanent, so you gotta be careful on which way you go with each character! So not only do which 3 characters you pick matter, but what job class you eventually turn them into...

I personally LOVED the party of Hawk, Reise/Lise, and Carlie!!!

Hawk - Ninja Master - He can multi-target Jutsus, decreasing enemies stats ^_^

Lise - Star Lancer - She can multi-targe all the Stat-Up abilities!!! Making your party nearly invincible!!! Not to mention she gets Marduck, one of the best attack spells in the game (plus it's a summon ^_^)

Carlie - Shaman (I think) - I forgot which one gives her Black Curse, but that's the one you want! Black Curse lowers ALL of one enemies stats... Pair this with Lise as a Star Lancer (since she can multi-target her stat-ups, upgrading all of your party members to max in 4 spells, wich takes very little time given the battle system used in SD3 ^_^)... Anyway... Stat Ups on your party... Stat downs on the enemy... Strong physical fighters... good magic users.... you get the picture ^_^

And MasteroftheObvious... the god-beasts get stronger depending on which one you first... for each one you kill, the remaining god beasts get stronger, so the Moon Beast isn't that hard if you tackle him early...

Not to mention the EVERY enemy in the game is cake if you use the party I listed above ^_^

I usually prefer Duran as a Swordmaster, Lise as a Star Lancer and Kevin as a Warrior Monk. It's only weakness is its lack of attack magic, but meh, who needs attack magic ? :p I'm too lazy to say the rest although I'm usually the resident SD3 freak here. Ask Misao, among others lol

Originally posted by AdemA


Correct me if I'm wrong, but a byte is 8 bits... thus 48 Mb would be equal to 6 MB???



Pretty much.... yeah.

Originally posted by MogKnight


Pretty much.... yeah.

In that case, I don't see why it would take up so much space and cost so much to buy if it would have been translated and released in the U.S. Since I have ROM's that are larger, as well as the actual cartridge for my SNES...

EDIT: my ROM only increased about 20KB (which was probably just the font...) when I patched the translation, and was still under 5 MB...

And as for Evad's team... Lise's Marduck is the strongest summon in the game! So you do actually have some good magic attack ^_^, even if it is only the one, I believe it is non-elemental, so it can deal good damage to ANYTHING... Though it could have been Holy, I'm not quite sure =/ (Holy is still good ^_^)

What I meant by lack is that even though it is one of the strongest attack spells , that team only has one attack spell. Plus you get it kind of late in the game. Also, Lise's stat up spells are more useful imho. Yeah, I think it is non-elemental plus it inflicts silence.

But as I said, attack magic isn't all that useful to me in this game. So, sinc I have three good fighters, one decent healer ( Kevin as a Warrior Monk can cast Heal Light on everyone ), a support character (Lise) and a nearly unstoppable character (Duran with all the elemental sabers except Light and Dark)...Indeed, Duran as a swordmaster simply rocks. Having both Leaf and Moon Saber is just great.

In that case, I agree =)

But as a personal preference, I would have had Hawk as a Ninja Master replace Duran... That way you can multi-target his Jutsu abilities, decreasing all enemy stats. He also can single-target his Jutsus as just the Ninja, so you have Lise stat-up your team, and Hawk stat-down the enemy until you get everyone's final class, then you can multi-target the stat-up and stat-down abilities... Either that, or replace Kevin with Carlie as a Dark Shaman I believe (I forgot which one has Black Curse)... Anyway, she can multi-target heal light, and she has more magic/spirit so hers is more potent... She also has a few summons, and Black Curse is just awesome =).

Again, it is only my preference =)

Yeah, but replacing Duran with Hawk and Kevin with Carlie means you severely weaken you overall attack power. Plus you lose the most useful spell in the game : Leaf Saber. With that, you'll never worry again about your MP.

Originally posted by AdemA

In that case, I don't see why it would take up so much space and cost so much to buy if it would have been translated and released in the U.S. Since I have ROM's that are larger, as well as the actual cartridge for my SNES...


Well, lets see....

The team that translated Seiken Densetsu 3 used fonts and dialog that would fit in a cart. There is a problem with incompatabliity with other emulators but thats not really much of a problem in terms of playing it on something else. I believe I was unable to transfer data to my Rom Player (Super UFO Pro-8 in case you guys with Rom Players are wondering) because of the fact that the memory can only hold about 34 Mb. I was able to chunk the game a bit so I would end up with 32Mb and translated text.

However... what's the point in all that text? Well maybe it's just to show off that I have a Rom Player on my SNES. :O

Anyways, if you think how much the 32-Bit carts were (some even ranging towards the 60-80 dollar range.... remember Chrono Trigger?), think how much a 40 cart or even a 48 would be. (Heck, compare SF2T to Chrono Trigger, thats only one MB or 8 Mb's difference and they went around 40 when it first came out.)

And who know's, maybe theres other reasons why we never seen Seiken Densetsu 3 in America.

Originally posted by Evad D'Aragon
Yeah, but replacing Duran with Hawk and Kevin with Carlie means you severely weaken you overall attack power. Plus you lose the most useful spell in the game : Leaf Saber. With that, you'll never worry again about your MP.

I was saying 1 or the other =)

switching only one of the 2 will not hinder your attack power to much.. in fact, being able to decrease enemies stats (you can with either of the 2 switches) will greatly increase the overall damage you will deal...

And as for Leaf Saber, isn't that just for Duran? Maybe if it regenerated everyone else's MP, then I would actually find it useful...

Originally posted by AdemA




And as for Leaf Saber, isn't that just for Duran? Maybe if it regenerated everyone else's MP, then I would actually find it useful...

You're kidding me, RIGHT ??? Leaf Saber is hands down the most useful spell in the whole game. Why, once you have it, you never ever need to worry about your MP. Leaf Saber can be used by Duran as a Swordmaster or Kevin as a Warrior Monk. It is NOT self-targeting. Unfortunately, it isn't possible to get a Multi-target Leaf Saber, but that doesn't prevent you from casting it three times on yourself and your allies. Sure, that takes a bit more time, but who cares ? You're STILL doing normal damage PLUS you regenerate your MP. And quite rapidly, should I say. :) Why, if you'd want to sacrifice some brute force for magic, go replace Kevin with Carlie as a Dark Priest or whichever gives her Black Curse...I think it's her Dark-Light final class.

You'll have access to all the Sabers except Light and Dark. Go Moon and (especially) Leaf Saber ! Oh, plus a warrior that can target all ennemies at once with his level two and three techs. Go Duran !

You've got multi-target stats-up spells plus Marduke and a decent fighter...Go Lise !

And you've got a multi-target healer with Black Curse and even a few cheap summons...Go Carlie ! lol

So that makes a Dark-Light, Light-Dark and Dark-Light...pretty neutral and well-balanced I'd say.

Altough, as I already said, I prefer brute force over the relative uselessness of attack magic in this game, so I'd go with Kevin as a Warrior Monk. Sure, less variety but oh well.

But anyway, my point was that Leaf Saber is THE best spell in the game.

hmm... recently a guy asked me where to get it, so i placed it online on my server.
I'm still stuck at the Castle of Navarra, for bigiue (or however you spell it)
My party consists of Hawkeye, Duran and Riesz (lise).

there are no flaws in this game, not one what-so-ever, i love this game to death, just wish it would have been brought to the US

WELCOME TO 5+ YEARS AGO

Also, SD3 has many flaws. You blind fanboy.

JESUS.

People have to STOP reviving old threads, for the love of god.