Yui
09-02-2006, 01:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65lg2h58Qe8

Well jeez. I was expecting for the voices to be different than that.

Tact
09-02-2006, 01:22 AM
i get this when i visit that link

"Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player"

and i both, have javascript enabled AND the latest flash. so...wtf?

Yui
09-02-2006, 01:24 AM
But it works for me. :(

Why don't you try it again, Tact?

domineus
09-02-2006, 02:07 AM
like I said in the other bleach thread (shouldn't these be merged?) Michelle Ruff as Rukia is actually spot on. I think she fits it quite well
Johnny Young Bosch as Ichigo...he should breathe when he is acting then he would be an interesting Ichigo

Zachron
09-03-2006, 12:36 AM
The actors are wonderful, but they've really hammed it in the wrong direction. But if they are any indication of the others in the cast, they are going to do on this translation.

Black Paladin
09-03-2006, 12:38 AM
English voices destroy the feel of the series. IMHO.

domineus
09-03-2006, 12:47 AM
English voices destroy the feel of the series. IMHO.

congrats on speaking just like a stereotypical otaku fanboy that is close minded for any interpretation outside of the lord almighty fan subbers interpretation...

regardless...
I am intrigued by the dub

Black Paladin
09-03-2006, 12:53 AM
Perhaps you can't read ''IMO'' so it can slide, In My Opinion, I prefer the japanese Episodes and it sickens me that every decent thing that the east has must be ''Westernised''.

domineus
09-03-2006, 12:55 AM
Perhaps you can't read ''IMO'' so it can slide, In My Opinion, I prefer the japanese Episodes and it sickens me that every decent thing that the east has must be ''Westernised''.
and you are so gracious that you know this will be westernized how exactly?
seeing that you nowhere near the adr director or dub team, you are just passing judgement based on past attrocities. However I tend to disagree as not all things that come to the west are westernized like 4kids dubs...

Black Paladin
09-03-2006, 01:03 AM
and you are so gracious that you know this will be westernized how exactly?
seeing that you nowhere near the adr director or dub team, you are just passing judgement based on past attrocities. However I tend to disagree as not all things that come to the west are westernized like 4kids dubs...

Because I know that the proliferation of the Anti-social/emo kid archtype will continue unabated. I have a perception of Kurosaki in my head, and in the 30-so seconds of that youtube video my mental image was nigh on destroyed. After watching it I thought ''Oh...Fuck... not again.'' I see and hear enough angsty emos around me without feeling the need to expirence that feeling in one of my prefered animes.

domineus
09-03-2006, 01:13 AM
Because I know that the proliferation of the Anti-social/emo kid archtype will continue unabated. I have a perception of Kurosaki in my head, and in the 30-so seconds of that youtube video my mental image was nigh on destroyed. After watching it I thought ''Oh...Fuck... not again.'' I see and hear enough angsty emos around me without feeling the need to expirence that feeling in one of my prefered animes.
I think you're reaching like dhalsim. Who says Jonny Young Bosch will make Kurosake Ichigo some emo plaything? I seriously doubt that will the be the case, similar to naruto though, but trying to assume that a voice will be an outcry to the emo subculture is quite a reach and an unfair comparison

Black Paladin
09-03-2006, 01:24 AM
True, it is my opinion though, and damn do I find bosch to be depressing. Rukia Kuchiki's essence has been captured in the voice acting, and in this respect I like it. But can you imagine Renji, Hitsugaya or Byakuya having their characteristics preserved in the voice acting. Renji will be given a sub-standard American voice actor, Hitsugaya will sound like a damn kid, losing the credibility afforded to him as a Captain. And God forbid Byakuya is given and upper class english accent. Now this may not be how this turns out, but I fear that this will turn out badly. Some things should just be left alone.

domineus
09-03-2006, 01:37 AM
True, it is my opinion though, and damn do I find bosch to be depressing. Rukia Kuchiki's essence has been captured in the voice acting, and in this respect I like it. But can you imagine Renji, Hitsugaya or Byakuya having their characteristics preserved in the voice acting. Renji will be given a sub-standard American voice actor, Hitsugaya will sound like a damn kid, losing the credibility afforded to him as a Captain. And God forbid Byakuya is given and upper class english accent. Now this may not be how this turns out, but I fear that this will turn out badly. Some things should just be left alone.

how about we wait and see if it will be good or bad. But sharing preconceived ideals and notions, no matter how well the voice actors do you will never be satisfied. Close minded no?

However Michelle Ruff does an excellent job as Rukia, and that is just from a promo which impresses me. Heck how far has she come from the GTO dub as Urumi Kanzaki?

By the way, most VAs from viz are taken from East Side companies, and most East side dubbing companies get excellent talent (see bang! zoom and animaze to see what I mean)

Black Paladin
09-03-2006, 01:54 AM
I said I was impressed by Rukia, no. Thereby voiding the first point. My point was that I do not expect much from the dub's. If your next point is to tell me that my opinion is wrong, don't go there. My opinion is my own.

Yui
09-03-2006, 02:59 AM
In my opinion, Ichigo's voice could have been a little deeper than that. Rukia's is not bad, but they could do a better job on her.

domineus
09-03-2006, 02:51 PM
I said I was impressed by Rukia, no. Thereby voiding the first point.
it would've, if you didn't post the following

But can you imagine Renji, Hitsugaya or Byakuya having their characteristics preserved in the voice acting. Renji will be given a sub-standard American voice actor, Hitsugaya will sound like a damn kid, losing the credibility afforded to him as a Captain. And God forbid Byakuya is given and upper class english accent. Now this may not be how this turns out, but I fear that this will turn out badly. Some things should just be left alone.
that kills anyway you try and pacify and say that voices are good if you are lumping the VAs in a category of OMG they suck before I even hear them...

My point was that I do not expect much from the dub's.
gee...I wonder why...I already place judgement on a dub before ever watching it? talk about hopeful belief...

Pimp Daddy McSnake
09-03-2006, 04:26 PM
great song in the background

Black Paladin
09-03-2006, 09:30 PM
it would've, if you didn't post the following

that kills anyway you try and pacify and say that voices are good if you are lumping the VAs in a category of OMG they suck before I even hear them...

gee...I wonder why...I already place judgement on a dub before ever watching it? talk about hopeful belief...

I have to laugh, you aren't talking about BLEACH, you're attacking me...For having an opinion.

Zachron
09-03-2006, 10:22 PM
Ha ha! Opinions are sux0r!

Yui
09-03-2006, 10:24 PM
stop this, domineus. please, just talk about the bleach trailer.

it makes yui sad :(

Zachron
09-06-2006, 07:01 AM
Renji will be given a sub-standard American voice actor, Hitsugaya will sound like a damn kid, losing the credibility afforded to him as a Captain. And God forbid Byakuya is given and upper class english accent.

Given Renji's importance to the storyline and the fact that they gave Ichigo a damned good actor(even if he isn't necessarily the "absolute best" for the role... whatever that means), Renji will probably have an actor of equal calibur(I'm thinking they'll perhaps get the guy who played Spike from cowboy beebop, or perhaps the guy who played Kazuma in Scryed). Byakuya will probably not have a british accent. I somehow imagine the person who did the voice of Jin in Samurai champloo doing the english version of Byakuya... even so, they'll find someone who does a good voice for him... and if he does have an English high accent, it will be for no other reason than the actor being British, and if they cast Byakuya with such and actor, It's an even chance that man will have a Sir before his name, and his character will most likely NOT have that accent, even though it's the actor's natural accent.

[edit:] I know it's not going to happen, but it'd be cool if they got Sean Connery to play Yama Jii... or even better, his Vice Captain that is never named and only gets a few lines... Then again, Leanard Nimoy would be better. lol.

Black Paladin
09-06-2006, 06:17 PM
Given Renji's importance to the storyline and the fact that they gave Ichigo a damned good actor(even if he isn't necessarily the "absolute best" for the role... whatever that means), Renji will probably have an actor of equal calibur(I'm thinking they'll perhaps get the guy who played Spike from cowboy beebop, or perhaps the guy who played Kazuma in Scryed). Byakuya will probably not have a british accent. I somehow imagine the person who did the voice of Jin in Samurai champloo doing the english version of Byakuya... even so, they'll find someone who does a good voice for him... and if he does have an English high accent, it will be for no other reason than the actor being British, and if they cast Byakuya with such and actor, It's an even chance that man will have a Sir before his name, and his character will most likely NOT have that accent, even though it's the actor's natural accent.

[edit:] I know it's not going to happen, but it'd be cool if they got Sean Connery to play Yama Jii... or even better, his Vice Captain that is never named and only gets a few lines... Then again, Leanard Nimoy would be better. lol.

Sean connery would be the very man for that role. Also I just really hate the way Ichigo sounds. Seeing as Byakuya is of noble birth I thought ...Oh God!!
Noble = British toff

I couldn't bear to watch the English dub if the voice actors massacred it.

Zachron
09-06-2006, 09:06 PM
Yeah, but only if they got Christopher Lambert to play Ukitake. lolzorz. I doubt the whole budget the've got for it is enough to hire one of them for even one episode. Yama Jii though has few enough lines, that a big celebrity might be affordable.

Black Paladin
09-06-2006, 09:16 PM
Well that is very true. It won't happen though unfortunatly.

Yui
09-08-2006, 01:18 AM
Sean connery would be the very man for that role. Also I just really hate the way Ichigo sounds. Seeing as Byakuya is of noble birth I thought ...Oh God!!
Noble = British toff

I couldn't bear to watch the English dub if the voice actors massacred it.
I don't think ViZ Media can afford Sean Connery. :(

Pimp Daddy McSnake
09-08-2006, 01:37 AM
I don't think ViZ Media can afford Sean Connery. :(

hahahahah uber rofl. We should all chip in.