.

I hope there will be.I don't really like the way the playstation version looked.Plus there was no talking.

hohoho

whatever

I don't really like the way the playstation version looked.Plus there was no talking.

First of all, yes in comparison to graphics nowadays, the graphics are not that great, but they were then (mainly the cutscenes). You have probably heard the saying 'Don't judge a book by its cover' well this can be implemented to games, 'Don't judge a game by how pretty it is'. If a re-make was made (which i doubt would happen) then they wouldn't need to add talking, personally i would prefer to make my own judgement on the personality of a character by what is said rather then how something is said and IF a re-make was ever made with voiceovers and prettier graphics then they best make sure that there is a non-voiceover option where the text is still displayed without some american voice actor telling me he just wants the money from blowing up a reactor before he leaves(no offence to americans in general, i just get sick of hearing a boistrous american shout about something in a game, time and time again). In advent children, fair enough voices were neccessary. IMO a re-make is not needed, so a re-make with voiceovers is definitly not needed. Anyway if it was remade on the same level as X then we would have to put up with more fanboys/girls from another generation, which we do not need.

I can imagine it now, 'ooooh, Final fantasy VII(re-make) is so great, the graphics are superb, they are this and that, hmmm, i never played the original because the graphics were not very good, this story is brilliant though, if it had graphics like this then, i would have definitely got it. I am so shallow minded, graphics are everything to me, etc, etc' i think you all get the picture.

Peace

Yeah, only losers judge a game because of the way it looks if you ask me. And I can't rant because Pipo pretty much said everything that was needed to be said.

This is the FINAL FANTASY XII AND BEYOND forum. Not FINAL FANTASY VII.

And no, there is no need for a remake of FFVII.

.

and i post this because its new, a game byond, and maybe the name wont be FF7...but still, speculation rises very hig as square can now do something after THAT ending in Dirge of cerberus.

Yawn.

Boring fanboyish rantings won't get you far on FFS. Unless, of course, you're trying to get mocked and flamed.

I don't think he's after the Popularity Award...

and i post this because its new, a game byond, and maybe the name wont be FF7...but still, speculation rises very hig as square can now do something after THAT ending in Dirge of cerberus.
You are such an idiot. FFXII an beyond means games like FFXIII, FFXIV and so on and so forth. There's the FFVII forum. Go post your crap there.

go yui!!!!!! <3 and 2 thumbs up!

and i post this because its new, a game byond, and maybe the name wont be FF7...but still, speculation rises very hig as square can now do something after THAT ending in Dirge of cerberus.

The massively retarded statement above is brought to you by the book of Moron.

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LOL! Another photobucket masterpiece?

boyish, there was a time i was called as boy, but leading people and be called a boy.....

i did not thought such ridiculus ones in this Forum, it was a great place, but now, it just showed itself.

boyish, there was a time i was called as boy, but leading people and be called a boy.....

i did not thought such ridiculus ones in this Forum, it was a great place, but now, it just showed itself.
what

boyish, there was a time i was called as boy, but leading people and be called a boy....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

.

Wtp?

Don't edit posts that have been replyed to.

Dumbass.

boyish, there was a time i was called as boy, but leading people and be called a boy.....

i did not thought such ridiculus ones in this Forum, it was a great place, but now, it just showed itself.

Did you get a sex change????

First of all, yes in comparison to graphics nowadays, the graphics are not that great, but they were then (mainly the cutscenes). You have probably heard the saying 'Don't judge a book by its cover' well this can be implemented to games, 'Don't judge a game by how pretty it is'.

I agree that you should not judge a videogame by how pretty it is, however ff7 was very poorly for its time. Just take a look at Tomb Raider 2 that was realised the same year. Ff7's FMV were poor looking too and again i give as example Tomb Raider 2.



and i post this because its new, a game byond, and maybe the name wont be FF7...but still, speculation rises very hig as square can now do something after THAT ending in Dirge of cerberus.


I dont even know the end of DoC but i think Square almost always leave something unanswered or something that in the future can be made as a new videogame.

For example when you beat Necron in ff9 he says "Its not over. Im immortal as far as there is life ad death", this strange speaking can be an "excuse" if someday they want to make a new game based on ff9. (just an ex)

Also they don't plan to remake 7. The only chance they will do that is when Square-Enix runs low on money.

Also they don't plan to remake 7. The only chance they will do that is when Square-Enix runs low on money.

Are you serious? i thought that i heard somewhere that they were going to remake 7 and 8, with new boards and some voice overs.
Thats a bit dissapointing... :sad:

Yeah, only losers judge a game because of the way it looks if you ask me. And I can't rant because Pipo pretty much said everything that was needed to be said.

Yea. Besides, in some games, there is one flat-out correct detail:

GRAPHICS DON'T ALWAYS MATTER

I HATE it when people don't try a game because the graphics aren't THAT good!

Are you serious? i thought that i heard somewhere that they were going to remake 7 and 8, with new boards and some voice overs.
Thats a bit dissapointing... :sad:

I bet your source used the ps3 tech demo (a quite pretty re-doing of the FFVII opening FMV) as evidence, too.

My friend is one of the biggest FF7 nerds, and he told me that they are remaking FF7 for the PS3. He told me that this game retailer he goes to is already reserving for it. But whenever I'm there, it keeps slipping my mind. I still think it's utter BS.

My friend is one of the biggest FF7 nerds, and he told me that they are remaking FF7 for the PS3. He told me that this game retailer he goes to is already reserving for it. But whenever I'm there, it keeps slipping my mind. I still think it's utter BS.
It is utter bullshit.

JFTR Its A Tech Demo...

Its Just Squaresoft Having A Fiddle With What They Theoretically Could Do With the Ps3... I Personally Think They Chose Final Fnatasy 7 As their Subject Just To Increase The Hype On The Overrated Spawns Of FF7 That Are Advent Children And Dirge of Cerebus.

They Are Just Trying To Put Erections In the Pants Of 13 Year Old Boys Who Come On Webforums And Post All Their Rumors And Expect The Thing Is Real And Happening Because They Were Suckered In.

Imho They Should Leave FF7 Alone And Let The Legend Live On In The Viewpoint Of The Fans Of The Game And Not Let These Speculations get Out Of Hand When They Release This Splinter Garbage And Teasers.

Y'know...instead of baseless speculations about remakes and movies of sub-par RPG's, why not go play games that are at least as good as the FF series, if not better? Games like Star Ocean, Dragon Quest, and Breath of Fire immediately come to mind.

JFTR Its A Tech Demo...

Its Just Squaresoft Having A Fiddle With What They Theoretically Could Do With the Ps3... I Personally Think They Chose Final Fnatasy 7 As their Subject Just To Increase The Hype On The Overrated Spawns Of FF7 That Are Advent Children And Dirge of Cerebus.

They Are Just Trying To Put Erections In the Pants Of 13 Year Old Boys Who Come On Webforums And Post All Their Rumors And Expect The Thing Is Real And Happening Because They Were Suckered In.

Imho They Should Leave FF7 Alone And Let The Legend Live On In The Viewpoint Of The Fans Of The Game And Not Let These Speculations get Out Of Hand When They Release This Splinter Garbage And Teasers.
ummmm, why is the first letter of every word capitalized?

Y'know...instead of baseless speculations about remakes and movies of sub-par RPG's, why not go play games that are at least as good as the FF series, if not better? Games like Star Ocean, Dragon Quest, and Breath of Fire immediately come to mind.

X2


ummmm, why is the first letter of every word capitalized?

Just this Bad Habit I Have And Cant Get Out Of... Dont Ask Dont Try To Make Me Stop... Most People Here Have Just Gotten Used To It...

JFTR Its A Tech Demo...

Its Just Squaresoft Having A Fiddle With What They Theoretically Could Do With the Ps3... I Personally Think They Chose Final Fnatasy 7 As their Subject Just To Increase The Hype On The Overrated Spawns Of FF7 That Are Advent Children And Dirge of Cerebus.

They Are Just Trying To Put Erections In the Pants Of 13 Year Old Boys Who Come On Webforums And Post All Their Rumors And Expect The Thing Is Real And Happening Because They Were Suckered In.

Imho They Should Leave FF7 Alone And Let The Legend Live On In The Viewpoint Of The Fans Of The Game And Not Let These Speculations get Out Of Hand When They Release This Splinter Garbage And Teasers.

/nodding in agreement to all points made, apart from the erections in the pants of 13 year old boys comments. Come on, surely that don't happen, it would be a bit worrying if it did.

Then again, with some of these fanboys, maybe that is the case, that would explain why every time FFVII remake is mentioned, they get so excited.

If they remade FFVII for the PS3, it would be a system seller. FFVII had and has such a huge fanbase that I really think that it would do well. Just like I think that they need to re-release it on the PSP. Dammit it wanna take it on the road. Hard to play a game with graphics like that on my TV.. hurts my eyes. LMAO!!! I used to think that was as good as they get. Now i've got a 360 and I'm blown away.

COME ON SQENIX RERELEASE FFVII ON PSP AND PS3!!!!

And who the hell you think has enough money to buy a 599 euros console + a 30-40 euros game?

Lots of people. I can buy it with one paycheque and have change, if I wished.

And who the hell you think has enough money to buy a 599 euros console + a 30-40 euros game?

30-40 euro!?! More like 60-70.

I wouldnt be that close minded about an FF7 remake.
I mean back when I first played FF7 everyone would have laughed if I said, oh apparently theyre making a movie to sequal it and a Vincent shoot em up spin off! And gameboy prequals!!

lol very true. I just think that Square Enix has a good game on deck and I feel that fanboys such as myself would just LOVE to see Knights of the Round and Bahamut in all it's high def glory.

...Or Squeenix can stop being lazy and make a really good game, instead of cashing in on ignorant fanboys who scream "LOLZ I WANT MORE UV DA SME I BEEN PLYING 4 8 YRZ NOW!" Then again, were I in that position, I'd probably wind up cashing in, too.

30-40 euro!?! More like 60-70.
Just an example, but ididnt really know the right money in euro :)


They cant make ff7 games forever. FF7 is a messed up right now, with all these, presequels, the movie, the actual game and the tech demo

I don't know about a remake with voices... or a remake at all for that matter... mainly because I like playing the originals and that kinda stuff... I dunno... they seem more... classic, then anything else.

and if it were a sequel... what, make a game over Advent Children? the movie was fine, but c'mon... if it was a game... it'd be pretty lame...

but i think i new story will come up, i dont sopport a remake, but squaer might do something new, and it can have ffvii as a trump card or last resort.

In my opinion they should go for a FF8 movie.
Live action preferrably. Off topis soz.

i agree.

There is probably a thread about an ff8 movie already, with everyone saying cgi would be better...

i want movie 8 to, but i to believe there is a new FF7.

but i to believe there is a new FF7.

And just what makes you believe that?

I would like to see a real FF mobie for once and not cgi, that maybe wat is killing it.

And just what makes you believe that?

You mean you dont!?! Shame on you.

The only reason they did the remake of the opening for FFVII was to show people how good the graphics for PS3 would be.

The reason they did FFVII was because it was a much loved game and most people would know the previous graphics for the game, so they could compare.

The problem with this is it tricked the people who don't read into things (i.e me) to believing that there was actually a remake.

But as Magneto42 said, it could happen.

So you never know.

Advent Children was originally going to be a twenty minute movie, until the fan base became so incredibly huge that Tetsuya Nomura decided to make it a feature length movie.

I'm sure there's some remake fan base forming out there somewhere.

Or, a petition of some sort. :P

:D

Oh look.

Within about two minutes. :)

Click. (http://www.gopetition.com/online/6783.html)

wow. that'd be a whole bunch of FF7 stuff.

if they wanna make it, go right ahead, but I think there should be a petition to make future FF male characters less metro. >_> *cough*FF12*cough*

SE should just put out the shittiest game ever and slap FFVII onto the front of the label, so no one would ever want more.
It would help stabilize this whole ignorant, pathetic fanbase they have going today.

They did. It was called FFVII. olol

:laugh: And it got us into this mess in the first place!

There are worse rpg's than FFVII.
Saga Frontier anyone? You cant really say any FF is worse than that.

Um...it was a joke, for one. For two, SaGa Frontier wasn't really that bad.

There are worse rpg's than FFVII.
FFVIII anyone? You cant really say any FF is worse than that.

OMFG.

Nine sucked.

Is it just me, or did nine really suck?

Some people might think it's just me, but it did kinda suck.

And then I found this site, where this person compared every Final Fantasy ever done to each other, and then said the only reason why people liked seven was because it was the first on PSX, so people played it.

And that they didn't know any better.

:O

They also said it was the worst Final Fantasy ever.

:Z

OMFG.

Nine sucked.

Is it just me, or did nine really suck?

Some people might think it's just me, but it did kinda suck.

And then I found this site, where this person compared every Final Fantasy ever done to each other, and then said the only reason why people liked seven was because it was the first on PSX, so people played it.

And that they didn't know any better.

:O

They also said it was the worst Final Fantasy ever.

:Z

This thread is not about FF9. So go else where to dis it.
Also prepare to get ripped for saying FF9 is bad and for implying that FF7 is good.

And what are you doing up at this hour?
Damn Melbournians.

Lol.

I am up because I have a sprained ankle so I'm not going to school tomorrow .. well .. today.

And I'm still jetlagged from over a week ago.

Kinda didn't bother to get over it at the end of school holidays and now I'm stuffed.

AND .. I'm allowed to my own opinion about nine.

Who knows?

Maybe I hate it because I gave up on it like .. seven hours into it.

But hey.

*>.<*

Well I love FF9. And I agree with you if you think FF7 is the best. If thats what you were saying.

Sorry about your ankle and shit.

Nah it's fine.

:P

I can slightly walk on it. :P

Lol .. funny story that I have to tell.

I was on a party bus and the bus stopped suddenly.

And people fell on it.

Then I went to the emergancy room.

And I was so luck because NO ONE was in there.

And they don't usually do x-rays between ten pm and nine am.

But a patient really needed one so they called someone in, so I got one.

And I was like ZOMG.

Because I am not that lucky.

:P

But anyway.

The worst part of it now is the crutchers have rubbed so much that they have left a huge rash behind me armpits.

Heh.

That's why I'm not going to school.

Plus I have sport tomorrow.

Seemed like a lost cause. :P

(And knowing my teacher, she'd ask for a note despite the crutchers, bruises, swelling and bandage.)

:P

*Deleted*.

If you wanna chat off topic, take it to PM.

Soz.

Bedtime now anyway.

OMFG.

Nine sucked.

Is it just me, or did nine really suck?

Some people might think it's just me, but it did kinda suck.

And then I found this site, where this person compared every Final Fantasy ever done to each other, and then said the only reason why people liked seven was because it was the first on PSX, so people played it.

And that they didn't know any better.

:O

They also said it was the worst Final Fantasy ever.

:Z

could you maybe tell us the source? <_< >_> sounds like finally a site that doesn't bow down and exalt FF7 for no reason.

There are worse rpg's than FFVII.
Saga Frontier anyone? You cant really say any FF is worse than that.

You deserve to have your nails pulled out one by one for that remark.

could you maybe tell us the source? <_< >_> sounds like finally a site that doesn't bow down and exalt FF7 for no reason.

I wish I could. :(

I found it by googling something that I thought I'd remember.

But then I couldn't find it again.

Anywhere!

But it contained the word sucked in it a lot.

It had all of the Final Fantasy's in it up to I think, ten or eleven. (It was old).

And it voted seven as the worst, and I think two or four as the best.

So search for something along those lines and you might find it.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

They did. It was called FFVII. olol


haha nice. I was totally expecting that, and the delievery was superb by the way.


Also, to set the record straight FFIX was without a doubt the greatest out of the PS1 FFs.
Sorry to break your heart, but it is true.

Also, to set the record straight FFIX was without a doubt the greatest out of the PS1 FFs.
Sorry to break your heart, but it is true.

Seeing as the only game to give it legitimate competition is FFT, that's not exactly a grand achievement.

Back on topic of a VII remake... dont be too hasty to rule it out. At E3 or something when they were promoting DoC, Tetsuya Nomura was asked about a remake and he said that they would love to make one if they could find the time (at the time he was really busy with dirge of cerberus and kingdom hearts 2). So just know that they aren't like "we wont do that!", they just have so much stuff lined up that if they do do it, it probably wont be very soon.

From experience of living as a human being, when someone says, "If I could only find the time." It usually means that they would want to but they are not, because simply for SE it would take too long and they have too many games in process to throw onto the back burner.

So if they did, it would be way long into the future.

I found it.

I FOUND IT.

YAY!!

Click (http://www.warmech.net/special/awards/awards.html).

Thanks for that.

It was interesting to read. They guy obviously stresses his love for FFII and FFIV haha.

Yeah i used to have that in my signature until people said it sucks ;) (its the guy's opinion anw)

Yeah.

Just annoys me how people judge graphics.

It's the game.

Not the image.

Don't underestimate how important those images are. The graphics are the player's only link to the game, so they have to effectively represent what's going on to keep the player up to speed. Poor graphics are most certainly detrimental, no matter what type of game it is.

Yay. Prak made a slight mistake. As the graphics arent the players "only" link to a game. Yay.

Would you prefer that I specified that they were the only *substantial* link? I figured that would be a pointless waste of text and would add nothing to the point.

There are two factors that can link a player to a game: graphics and sound. Sound is secondary, as it's almost completely useless without the accompanying visual images. The game can, on the other hand, function without sound. Therefore, graphics are the only necessary link.

Ah Prak, the only main voice against FFVII here. Undoubtedly when you first played FFVII (ie- 4-6 years after VI was released, like any real judge of the game would have done), you thought it was one of the revelations of gaming, like everyone else did. Then you got bored with it after a few years and then started getting annoyed that newbies loved it more than your favourite FF game, so you persist in convincing everyone here that it's the worst game in history, which we all know is untrue. It isn't even the worst Final Fantasy game, so keep your opinions, but let others have their own too.

Kie, I generally find you inoffensive, so it's a bit sad to see you making baseless assumptions. For your information, I played FFVII a few years after it came out (I was perfectly capable of looking at it objectively and not holding it to the standards of newer games, mind you) and mostly enjoyed it when I played it, but by the end, I was just wanting it to be over already for reasons I've made pretty clear.

I also never claimed that it was the worst game in history, and I've seldom said anything more severe than pointing out that it was merely mediocre, as well as one of the weakest games in the series. And besides that, I've never tried to convince people that they shouldn't like it.

Now, as much as it pains me to say this since I generally don't have any problems with you... Fuck off.

Ooph.

Am I sensing a little tension?

As I have wanted to say to you many a time Prak;

If you have a person problem with someone, PM them.

:D

Have a nice day.

I find it quite humorous that the person who hasn't been here two weeks is telling Prak, who's been here for over two years, what to do.

Yay. Prak made a slight mistake. As the graphics arent the players "only" link to a game. Yay.

OMFG PRAK MAED A MISTAEK OLOLO!!! I WILL MASTURBATE TO IT!11

Stupid prick, and you didn't even get THAT accusation right. Fuck off.

OMFG PRAK MAED A MISTAEK OLOLO!!! I WILL MASTURBATE TO IT!11

Stupid prick, and you didn't even get THAT accusation right. Fuck off.

I think youve taken my post a bit too seriously, my friend.
I was messing around and junk. Prak's cool.

Kie are you new?

This website is full of FFVII haters, including myself.

Giving Prak all the credit is totally unreasonable.

I find it quite humorous that the person who hasn't been here two weeks is telling Prak, who's been here for over two years, what to do.

Hey, buddy?

You dunno the situation, so don't try to insult me.

And I had an old acount I deleted, had it since 2004.


;665684']This website is full of FFVII haters, including myself.

ANYWAY, what do you guys hate so much about FFVII anyway?

What is it that makes it bad for you?

since when did the length of time you have been a member of a forum, or the number of posts you have actually make you higher up on the respect scale?

And I had an old acount I deleted, had it since 2004.

Bullshit. Users can't delete accounts and an admin would only do it if you had never posted before, and then only as part of a larger purge.


since when did the length of time you have been a member of a forum, or the number of posts you have actually make you higher up on the respect scale?

It doesn't. Some people who've been here for years are still regarded as retards. Others have been respected since day one. It's all in how you present yourself.

There are two factors that can link a player to a game: graphics and sound. Sound is secondary, as it's almost completely useless without the accompanying visual images. The game can, on the other hand, function without sound. Therefore, graphics are the only necessary link.

Back on topic...i dont agree with this, i think gameplay is an element aswell, i agree with clu, the game kicks ass (opinion) because the gameplay is so great and i think thats why it has such a huge fanbase, not because it was a first for SE

e.g i think the materia based system rules, some of the characters can be a bit rough around the edges, but it wouldnt really be ff7 without them now would it?

Back on topic...i dont agree with this, i think gameplay is an element aswell,

Gameplay is not an element that links a player to the events on screen. It is the method by which they interact. As that interaction is reliant on the player being properly aware of what's going on in the game, it is a subordinate element in context of my point.


i agree with clu, the game kicks ass (opinion) because the gameplay is so great and i think thats why it has such a huge fanbase, not because it was a first for SE

The gameplay is not particularly great, actually. Yours is a biased perception that would not be universally shared, especially among those who care more about gameplay than other factors, myself included. Examples of failings in the gameplay:

1. The menus are less responsive than they should be.
2. Many of the standard sorting and switching options were not present in the materia system, making management unnecessarily complicated.
3. Combat is extremely repetitious, not relying nearly as heavily on tactics as the previous games in the series. You can play through almost the entire thing using nothing but physical attacks. What's the point of having a variety of options if you never have to use any of them?
4. Movement in certain areas is downright retarded. Press up on the control pad to go left on the screen? Puh-leeze.


e.g i think the materia based system rules,

You think... Alas, this is not proof that something is good. It is merely proof that you like it. When I look at the materia system, I see a fatally flawed gameplay element that nullifies the usefulness of 2/3 of your party members because none of them have a specific role they play. Since any of your favorite three characters can be adapted to any role, there's never a need to use the others. They're simply wasted.


some of the characters can be a bit rough around the edges, but it wouldnt really be ff7 without them now would it?

Silly question. Of course it would be FFVII. The game is what it is, and could have been any number of things. If anything was done differently, the name would still be there.

For the record, I was just being a smartass there.

In that statement, you imply that you find imperfections to be endearing. That's perfectly fine. However, the imperfections/flaws are still there and should be recognized accordingly. Even if you like it, it's still something that's fundamentally wrong with the game.

fair enough,

though i'd like to think that all of that could be implemented into making a sequal.

(though i am dead against an FFVII sequal - mainly because how much they could just kill it - and before you say it no they havent already killed it!!)

What i mean is IF they were to make a sequal, using todays standards as a guide, improving on graphics, and sound quality and possibly also the quality of the gameplay - (though why!?!) - Would you buy it?

No.

I gave them a fair chance with Advent Children to prove that they cared about making up for their failings. Instead of making up for them though, they simply added onto the pile, taking advantage of the ignorance of their fans to rake in the cash from a cheaply made product. Because of that, as well as the shitty quality of DoC, I will never try anything with the FFVII label on it again.

i agree ac kinda sucked big style, though cant comment on DoC - havent played/seen/got...but are you saying that you wouldnt buy it, just so you could say how much you dont like it?!?

I cannot express with words how much I enjoy reading FFVII arguements.

I am not being sarcastic either.

PLEASE! I BEG U! NOT ANYMORE OF THIS ARGUMENT!!

Mercy....This is going to be like the discussions of how Aeris can be revived(AND NO,SHE CANNOT!)...
never-ending or ending after ten years or something...

Get used to it douche.

;666962']Get used to it douche.

Ah, a mature bashing, quite a refreshment from the usual trifle that I accept and move on with on other boards. I was merely expressing my opinion but perhaps a PM, as Clu pointed out, would have been the best way to express this. I apologise for accusing you of trying to make others dislike it, I just feel that your over-involvement in any FF7 thread seems to constantly point out flaws in the game, and the only purpose I can see for that is trying to convince others that the game is bad. If this wasn't your intention then, as I said, I apologise, Prak :)

it appears i am going to add a very important info i didnt know about,

this topic i made after seeing the secret ending of Dirge Of Cerberus, where "G" his true name is GENESIS as some of the bord memebres here said.

it apears SEPHIROTH and GENESIS KNOW EACH OTHER....not also that, there is a nother person...a 3rd one, the only defferance that his win g is WHITE and not black the same for those 2.

the all share the same thing...all of them are a ! winged ANGEL.

square complicated the story and added a lot of new characters,
2 of them are this "G" Genesis and the newly ANGEAL ...he was zacks mentor, who he later gives him clouyd buster sword.

this info's are from Before crisis and Crisis core trailers i found from another site.

it appears that FFVII and Advent Children were about sephiroth, and Dirge of cerebrus and Crisis core about Genesis, and Angeal will play a role beside ZACK in it.

before crisis is a compilation of history.

here is the original poster of what he wrote:

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Deep Ground Soldier (DGS, Deepground in the US version) is not the same organization as SOLDIER. They draw a distinct line in the spelling, in the game. However, DGS IS an offshoot of SOLDIER.

That said, there is no real indication of what awoke "G", or even that the "brother" he was speaking to was Weiss at all. It's been proposed that G is speaking to Sephiroth, and intends to use Weiss' body as a host for him. It's all up in the air, and will likely remain that way until "EC" gets announced.

Until then, here's what we do know about Genesis and company, from Crisis Core. First, Genesis was friends with Sephiroth and Angeal, or at least, they seemed to be, and they all appear to be 1st Class.

In the newest trailer, Genesis reveals that he "kept being betrayed by 2 people", ever since he left "that house". He also calls Tseng and Zack dogs of Shinra, so he clearly doesn't much like them anymore. Zack and Tseng were apparantly issued an order to "capture or destroy" G, and originally, Sephiroth was supposed to be the one assigned, not Zack.

Angeal also has two white wings on his right side, and also asks Zack to join him and fight those who torment the Planet -- it could be a hint that Angeal was the founder of AVALANCHE. Rumor has it that he'll die in his battle against Genesis...

At any rate, there is one large, glaring connection between Angeal, Genesis, and Sephiroth, and that's the one-winged angel aspect they all share (though, Angeal has two... XD).

Anyway, it seems that FFVII and AC were about Sephiroth, while CC and DC are about Genesis. BC acts as a sort of history for the past of the Compilation... It seems that the conclusion, if it's ever made, will tie everything together and finish the "Crisis".
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in conclusion, there is a HIGH possibilty now for a FFVII-2 or in a new name .

as genesis...is still alive.

tl;dr

SUIKODEN II IS THE BEST

MORE AND MORE THIS IS BECOMING TRUE, YOU HATE IT ,YOU LIKE IT, THEN EXPRESS ABOUT IT.

see Crisis core thread and Dirge of Cerberus for more.

boyish, there was a time i was called as boy, but leading people and be called a boy.....

i did not thought such ridiculus ones in this Forum, it was a great place, but now, it just showed itself.

wow...someone take a screenshot, we have a candidate for Engrish.com
i'm gonna put this on a t-shirt and sell it in Hong-Kong by tricking people into thinking it's all the rage in America :P

Let's get back to the topic. Emerald Weapon is harder, by far. My method that works for Ruby, I'm not sure if it works with Emerald.

Equip a ribbon.
Mastered Magic Counter paired with Mime.
Knights of the Round Paired with HP absorb.
Killed the 2 party members who haven't equipped this.

When the battle starts, Ruby can't remove 2 of your party members like usual because they will be dead. It will just bury its claws intstead. The Ribbon will stop it from giving you annoying effects. Just cast KotR and do nothing. Every time Ruby attacks you will counter with mime, aka KotR and gain over 9999 health. It just shows as "36" and "45" It's that high.

It's things like "FFVII Remake" threads being continuously remade and talked about, and seeing the same people burning the people who make those threads that have actually turned me off FFVII..

I like Advent Children. Look forward to play those other FFVII games. But FFVII itself.. I'm over it..

Let's get back to the topic. Emerald Weapon is harder, by far. My method that works for Ruby, I'm not sure if it works with Emerald.

Equip a ribbon.
Mastered Magic Counter paired with Mime.
Knights of the Round Paired with HP absorb.
Killed the 2 party members who haven't equipped this.

When the battle starts, Ruby can't remove 2 of your party members like usual because they will be dead. It will just bury its claws intstead. The Ribbon will stop it from giving you annoying effects. Just cast KotR and do nothing. Every time Ruby attacks you will counter with mime, aka KotR and gain over 9999 health. It just shows as "36" and "45" It's that high.

equip tetra elemental (morph cactaurs), use dazers, it's more fun and you can use the weakest weapons and no materia to beat him...just use them on his hands when he sticks 'em in the ground, then phoenix down your remaining party, constantly attack his hands and use dazers when the effect starts to wear off, repeat
the reason for tetra elemental and not ribbon is because his ruby flame will heal you considerably

btw...this thread is about the d_empiror hoping for an FFVII remake...not emerald and ruby...

It's things like "FFVII Remake" threads being continuously remade and talked about, and seeing the same people burning the people who make those threads that have actually turned me off FFVII..

I like Advent Children. Look forward to play those other FFVII games. But FFVII itself.. I'm over it..

FFVII DoC continues the story after FFVII AdvC, the important thing in it, square revield a new character , and has a one winged, the opposite of sephiroth, the names 'G', thats what made this topic as there is no possibilities for a remake, instead the story continues [square made it like this ] and it turns compilicated after revileing FFVII Crisis core [the game on the psp] trailer,
that "G" name is GENESIS, and it appears not only Sephiroth and Genesis to have one wing....but a 3rd one to name Angeal.[this game event is before the actuall FFVII]

you can go in Crisis core thread in here to see details,

its more sopporting that there will be a new FFVII in the future, for Genesis is still alive.
untill crisis core is reliesed, we might learn more.

btw...this thread is about the d_empiror hoping for an FFVII remake...not emerald and ruby...[/QUOTE]

i did not say that, i said a new FFVII, a 2nd one or a nother compilation, square-enix triggered it, and not my hoping or fantasy ... Zize

btw...this thread is about the d_empiror hoping for an FFVII remake...not emerald and ruby...

i did not say that, i said a new FFVII, a 2nd one or a nother compilation, square-enix triggered it, and not my hoping or fantasy ... Zize

SquareEnix didn't trigger jack shit...they're milking this sorry franchise for all its worth

and you are right to.

SUIKODEN II IS THE BEST

FTW.

If they did remake it. I bet they will lose the magic and
it wont be as good as FFVII. But they might have good graphics....

They wont remake it. Unlikely.

Im not sure why they made DoC, most likely for the money, not publicity, but if they did make another compilation to the series, they must go back to cloud and make him the main character again. Not to be rude or anything, but i didn't like Vincent that much, not cause he wasnt a good character, i just didn't. When i played FF7 and beat it, all my character were around 95+ and vincent was like 20. I didn't use him at all because i didn't think he fit to the story, but others have doubts. Anyway this is what i feel they should do. Not only because mainly everyone likes cloud, but because he's a better character :).

But then again, im not sure if they should make a compilation. I think they pretty much milked FF7 dry, with all the compilations. Move on to another game, and stop fussing about FF7.

Although it would be nice to have FF7 remake, because yes the graphics were pretty bad on the playstation consol. But i think mainly everyone who likes FF7 would by it, just to see what the graphics look like.

DID YOU KNOW THEY'RE MAKING A SUIKODEN II REMAKE?

no remakes, new game, new story, thats whats most likely to happen.

I have never played a Suikoden game...


maybe I should try one out?

I have never played a Suikoden game...


maybe I should try one out?

yes you should....Suikoden II > FFVII

26 Mile Marathons > FFVII

26 Mile Marathons

Are there any other kind? :-D

100 mile marathons. :D

FFVII fanboyism = frontal lobotomy