what nes games do you think are uber hard and why

i want to formulate a list cos smokey thinks that there were no hard ones AT ALL (even the notoriously hard ones) and i want more people to tell him hes wrong~

I didn't say there weren't any difficult NES games, just I couldn't think of any right then. Metroid and Zelda II were definately easy too.

Takeshi no Chousenjou.

I didn't say there weren't any difficult NES games, just I couldn't think of any right then. Metroid and Zelda II were definately easy too.

says the guy that doesnt have the konami code right!

hahaha, oh wow.

also: Legendary Wings.

I don't know what you would be comparing difficulty to, since just about every game in the current generations are easy as shit.

Ninja Gaiden and Gauntlet were hard games, Gauntlet moreso because of the "you lose 1HP per second" feature.

I don't know what you would be comparing difficulty to, since just about every game in the current generations are easy as shit.
qft.

even something like super mario bros. / super mario bros. 3 is INCREDIBLY difficult compared to the more recent mario platformer games.

says the guy that doesnt have the konami code right!
I'm not the one who told me this was the code. Even so, that statement has no relevance to if I think NES games are hard or not. kthxbye

i can't beat mike tyson's punch out so i'd call that hard.

also, if you actually try playing any game on the original nes its going to be hard since we don't have the advantages of roms and saving absolutely anywhere and pressing f4 and f6 over and over.

bubble bobble was hella hard trying to get to lvl 100. me and my friend did it only once and we couldn't fucking beat the boss. what sux is these games always made you start from the very begining if you lost. lol that's just hard. >.<

people that claim this generation hadnt any hard games are just wankers that dont search for a challenge

F Zero GX, Metal Arms, Wave Race, Devil May Cry 3, Ikaruga, Ninja Gaiden, Moto GP, Commando's 2
some of those are downright sick in their level of difficulty


even something like super mario bros. / super mario bros. 3 is INCREDIBLY difficult compared to the more recent mario platformer games.
bullshit
easiest one of'm all is still Yoshi's Island
and if you try and complete NSMB, its on par with SMW
offcourse you can ignore that and just try and rush the game as fast as possible but thats not finishing a Mario game
and pretty much all Mario platformers have always been very well balanced with some very difficult parts

Metal Arms was a brilliant challenge, but definatly beatable.

i can't beat mike tyson's punch out so i'd call that hard.

also, if you actually try playing any game on the original nes its going to be hard since we don't have the advantages of roms and saving absolutely anywhere and pressing f4 and f6 over and over.



The only really hard guy in Punch Out is Tyson, and it doesn't take too long to memorize his pattern. Why, even now I know he starts the match with 3 knock-out uppercuts thrown once every six seconds. It's not a hard game. Well, not hard for anyone except stupid children like yourself who are stupid and suck at games.


I'm not the one who told me this was the code.

You didn't have the code memorized from the countless times you used it during your childhood? Why... I bet you never used it ever. I bet you're an old school faker.

Ghosts N' Goblins.

people that claim this generation hadnt any hard games are just wankers that dont search for a challenge

F Zero GX, Metal Arms, Wave Race, Devil May Cry 3, Ikaruga, Ninja Gaiden, Moto GP, Commando's 2
some of those are downright sick in their level of difficulty

I don't agree with any of these. F Zero GX might be the toughest one, but that is about it. In the NES era, I don't think I ever played a game that allowed you to save as often as Ninja Gaiden does, and Devil May Cry 3 is only mildly challenging. I don't know where you came up with Wave Race or Moto GP, but the last time I played them they were both easy. Ikaruga is a good old-school type shmup, but it still fails in comparison with Gradius - even its latter game, Gradius III, didn't have a save feature, meaning you had to start from the beginning after dying only 6 times. I've never played Metal Arms or Commandos 2 but I don't think they could be as hard as Battletoads.



bullshit
easiest one of'm all is still Yoshi's Island
and if you try and complete NSMB, its on par with SMW
offcourse you can ignore that and just try and rush the game as fast as possible but thats not finishing a Mario game
and pretty much all Mario platformers have always been very well balanced with some very difficult parts

You mentioned SNES games, not NES ones.

Battletoads.

Seriously. Fuck level 3.

Gradius III, didn't have a save feature, meaning you had to start from the beginning after dying only 6 times.

Along those lines, if you're only able to beat a game because it lets you continue a dozen times, you can't really call it easy.

Battletoads.

Seriously. Fuck level 3.

Battletoads and Ghosts 'n Goblins are pretty valid contributions to this thread.

Also: Robocop. That fucking game was hard as shit. If anybody here beat that, I don't believe you.

Ninja Gaiden was pretty hard. Not like Robocop hard or anything but it was difficult. I never quite finished it, though I managed to get really far. I probably would have completed it eventually if my mom had let me spend a longer time playing it. =(

Also, the first TMNT game. I could never figure out how to get past a certain point, but not sure if this is the game being really hard or just me never figuring it out. Game kind of sucked anyway though, the second and third ones were way better.

Also, the first TMNT game. I could never figure out how to get past a certain point, but not sure if this is the game being really hard or just me never figuring it out.

I think that was just about everyone. I never made it past the third level, only because I never had any idea of what I was supposed to do on the third level. But man, swimming for bombs, right?

Ikari Warriors. I did bust the C64 version.

I don't agree with any of these. F Zero GX might be the toughest one, but that is about it. In the NES era, I don't think I ever played a game that allowed you to save as often as Ninja Gaiden does, and Devil May Cry 3 is only mildly challenging. I don't know where you came up with Wave Race or Moto GP, but the last time I played them they were both easy. Ikaruga is a good old-school type shmup, but it still fails in comparison with Gradius - even its latter game, Gradius III, didn't have a save feature, meaning you had to start from the beginning after dying only 6 times. I've never played Metal Arms or Commandos 2 but I don't think they could be as hard as Battletoads.

either your referring to the original Wave Race or you havent played Wave Race Blue Storm(i know i know, i forgot to mention Blue Storm aswell)
Moto GP 3 is hard
its no F zero but its definitly allot harder then pretty much every other racegame out there
Metal Arms is pure fucking horror on Nuts of Steel
i got thru like 1/4 of it and my last mission i completed took me about 3 hours of playing tango with Titans

and dont give me shit about savegames
nowadays most good games include all the difficulty settings for anyone who wants a challenge

hell even Halo 2 gets fucking hard if you try to finish it on Legendary(wich is pretty much impossible on your own)

You mentioned SNES games, not NES ones.
i just wanted to point out that NSMB is on par with pretty much all Mario platformers in terms of difficulty and that the easiest one is Yoshi's Island

I think that was just about everyone. I never made it past the third level, only because I never had any idea of what I was supposed to do on the third level. But man, swimming for bombs, right?

Oh man, I had forgotten the swimming part until you mentioned it just now. I may never have gotten past the third level, but I sure as hell mastered that bomb swimming!

Abadox. I'm surprised that no one has said it yet.

The only really hard guy in Punch Out is Tyson, and it doesn't take too long to memorize his pattern. Why, even now I know he starts the match with 3 knock-out uppercuts thrown once every six seconds. It's not a hard game. Well, not hard for anyone except stupid children like yourself who are stupid and suck at games.




lol. man. i coudln't even get past like the 4th or 5th guy. lol but that was long ago. who knows if i'd be able to pass it now.


i haven't played it in years. like... 20 years maybe. since i'm so old and not a kid anymore. lol

Ikari Warriors. I did bust the C64 version.
Me too. <3~

Also: Ghost N' Goblins. *cries*

fuck yes ghost and goblins.

the farthest i myself could ever get before getting bored and quitting was like in the buildings. i coudl never get farther on my own. my uncle did though, one time he played and got to like part 4 or 5 on that ltitle map.

either your referring to the original Wave Race or you havent played Wave Race Blue Storm(i know i know, i forgot to mention Blue Storm aswell)

I've played them both, and neither one of them is difficult.


Moto GP 3 is hard
its no F zero but its definitly allot harder then pretty much every other racegame out there

Moto GP 3 isn't hard either, and F-Zero GX is only challenging on the final few levels.


and dont give me shit about savegames

So how does being able to save your progress not come into factor when deciding difficult games? When you died in all the NES games, you had to start over from the very beginning. Say you were at level 99 in some game, then you lost, you would have to restart from level 1. Being able to restart exactly where you lost from is utterly easy; would you rather get to the final boss in Ghosts n' Goblins and lose, only to restart the entire game without knowing its weakness or attack pattern, or would you rather have a virtually unlimited amount of retries on the same level, cutting gameplay down exponentially?


nowadays most good games include all the difficulty settings for anyone who wants a challenge

Lol. Back then, every difficulty level was hard. Offering an easy route through a game doesn't validate it as being equally difficult. I don't remember ever setting the difficulty to Easy and blazing through Double Dragons like I can with DMC3.


i just wanted to point out that NSMB is on par with pretty much all Mario platformers in terms of difficulty and that the easiest one is Yoshi's Island

Not really. You listed some easy games, and didn't really say anything about the original SMB or SMB3. At the end of SMB, some of the jumps were near impossible without perfect timing, and you had to be skilled on SMB3 to make it past the Dark World levels, especially if you lacked items. I've played NSMB, and it's easy compared to the older NES games.

Regardless, it is obviously true that there are some games today which provide a major challenge. It is also obviously true, however, that the general trend is toward much easier games, and that by and large your average NES game is way more difficult than your average PlayStation game. Which is all anyone was arguing.

Ghosts N' Goblins and...I also remember the first Double Dragon seeming pretty damn hard after the 4th level or so. I think it's when those 2 huge Abobo guys bust out of the rock walls.

I find Super Mario Bros 2 (AKA THE LOST LEVELS HERE NOT THE ONE WITH THE TOAD FOR A FINAL BOSS AND THE FLOATING AND STUFF) to be pretty much the most difficult game ever. Of course, I haven't played a lot of other games that people have mentioned, so I could be wrong!
Also, I have gotten a fair chunk through it because I was really bored with a friend and we traded off, taking like a billion tries per level.

Tetris, I've never beaten it. :o

the metal gear games.

I find Super Mario Bros 2 (AKA THE LOST LEVELS HERE NOT THE ONE WITH THE TOAD FOR A FINAL BOSS AND THE FLOATING AND STUFF) to be pretty much the most difficult game ever. Of course, I haven't played a lot of other games that people have mentioned, so I could be wrong!

The game I mentioned in my first post comes with a special controller that has a mic in it, and at one point in the game you have to sing into it for 1 hour straight. And it judges you. And if it doesn't like your singing you need to do it again. Also you have to hit the final boss 20000 times to win.

Was that game also invented by a japanese mad scientist in his basement and only have one copy in existence

Ghosts N' Goblins.

As an aside, any Atari game with porn in it usually has what would today be considered 'extreme' difficulty (of course, to get the porn ^_^).

Ghosts N' Goblins.

As an aside, any Atari game with porn in it usually has what would today be considered 'extreme' difficulty (of course, to get the porn ^_^).


lol. i have one of those. sailor moon based. and its a friaging hard game only because i don't freaking understand how to play it. it involves the same "domino" pieces used for mahjong and that stuff. i swear. i can never get all the nice hentai scences in that game. >.<

The game I mentioned in my first post comes with a special controller that has a mic in it, and at one point in the game you have to sing into it for 1 hour straight. And it judges you. And if it doesn't like your singing you need to do it again. Also you have to hit the final boss 20000 times to win.

oh okay you win

Rockman 1

i am surprised no one metioned Blaster Master werewolf bart vs the world was frustrating,and without the code contra and life force were both hard has anyone beat wizzards and warriors without continuing? ninja gaiden 2 or 3

good point on contra without the code. is that even possible? O_o

and i forgot aobut blaster master. i got the rom recently jsut for kicks. i coudln't even get past the first fking lvl. i remember back when i was a kid, i got pretty far. :p

looks like my skills are deteriorating.

i havent played that game in years! i belive the furthest ive gotten was lvl 5 some giant crab boss that i could not beat to save my life even with game genie lol controller throwing fun right there!!!!!

ghosts 'n goblins.
it still makes me scared at night.

Contra was a pretty hard game. So was the second Zelda.

oh yea. i forgot about contra. it is a pain though isnt it.

the second zelda is way too hard ;-;;;;;;

i cant get anywhere in it. at all. to this day.

ok ok I admit, I remember Ghouls 'n Goblins being a little difficult here and there. But the second Zelda? pfft

I Watched A Friend Play Contra And Input The K-code But He Only Used In Total About 7 Lives... A Nice Acheivement In Anyones Book... However Yeah Im With Contra... That Games Is Almost Impossible Without the K-Code

I Watched A Friend Play Contra And Input The K-code But He Only Used In Total About 7 Lives... A Nice Acheivement In Anyones Book... However Yeah Im With Contra... That Games Is Almost Impossible Without the K-Code

What the?

I am playing Contra/Gryzor (NES) at the moment. One of the best bunch of games of all time for me. :)

Oh, and the Probotector version too.

lets see honestly i didnt find any of them hard but the one that took the most time was metroide for me but then again you have to go back and fourth so many fucking times

Rockman 1

Most Megaman games I've played have had hair pulling moments.

I remember the G.I. Joe NES game being crazy hard, but consider that when I was a wee lad I couldn't beat...anything, so it probably wasn't that bad. Still, I couldn't get past level one.

Rockman 1

That reminds me. The very first time I ever played that game, I came across one of those yellow hardhat guys on the first stage. It was covering its face or whatever it does for defense and so no matter how many times I shot at it, it wouldn't die. Rather than try to figure out why or I decided that the game was broken and stopped playing.

And I've never played it since then.

That reminds me. The very first time I ever played that game, I came across one of those yellow hardhat guys on the first stage. It was covering its face or whatever it does for defense and so no matter how many times I shot at it, it wouldn't die. Rather than try to figure out why or I decided that the game was broken and stopped playing.

And I've never played it since then.

Hilarious. Reminds me of my Crunch Berry situation. I once dreamt I was eating Crunch Berries that tasted incredibly rotten and horrifying. This was not real. Regardless, I've refused to eat them since.

It's not the same. But it is.

Oh.

GAMESSSSS.

I put in Final Fantasy 10 and have never started it again after I got mad that the intro movieS would never stop coming and turned it off.

Id say zelda. Not so much because the game was hard (because it wasnt) but everytime I found myslef far in the game, id go load up my saved game only to see that it was erased. It happened plenty of times and it pissed me the fu** off.

says the guy that doesnt have the konami code right!

up up down down left right left right b a select start is the correct 2 player code.

not nes, but Contra III is really hard.

p up down down left right left right b a sele

Smokey's says right left right left.

Battletoads and Ghosts 'n Goblins are pretty valid contributions to this thread.

Also: Robocop. That fucking game was hard as shit. If anybody here beat that, I don't believe you.

qft

isn't it

up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, A, B, Start?

theres no select, its definately L first then R, and i THINK, its ab, and not ba. i could be wrong the ab/ba. but i know its left first then right.

yes, I just tried the konami code, it is left right left right, not right left right left. Oh yeah, HEAVY BARREL!!!!!

:0...

I skimmed my way through this and one has mentioned Castlevania, yet. I would like to see the average person "one life" Castlevania, let alone just make it through the whole game. (I.E. Getting to Dracula and killing him.)

Castlevania 2, while not truly hard, it can get confusing with the in-game given hints of what to do/where to go... So, one might not be able to beat it, if they can't understand what to do. (:/

Also, Castlevania 3, while it may not be very hard if one takes along an a friend (E.I. Grant, Alucard, or Sypha). But, it's quite tough to try to one life the game with Trevor Belmont all alone...

isn't it

up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, A, B, Start?

theres no select, its definately L first then R, and i THINK, its ab, and not ba. i could be wrong the ab/ba. but i know its left first then right.

select start is the two player code

mega man 1 was pretty frickin hard.

double post sorry

mega man 1 was pretty frickin hard.

i now its not for the nes, but i still cant beat megaman X. cant find all that acuresed armor.

I remember the G.I. Joe NES game being crazy hard, but consider that when I was a wee lad I couldn't beat...anything, so it probably wasn't that bad. Still, I couldn't get past level one.

I remember that one... the first stage was in a jungle and it annoyed me something chronic.

Still, there was The Hunt for Red October which was annoying. Next to no health powerups in any stage, and your armour only lasted for about two hits!

Wizards & Warriors III The Face of Kuros... now THIS is another ANNOYING game. You only have THREE lives to last you through the entire game! WITH NO CONTINUES!!! Thing is... I love the Wizards & Warriors games for the NES (sigh).

Fucking Section Z - What the fuck is going on in this game, where the fuck are you supposed to go and how the fuck do you figure out the correct path without hitting a dead-end and dying?

Oh hell, Google search ruins it for me. http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/SectionZ/index.php

Super Dodgeball. The accustomizing yourself to the constant slowdown during matches was frustrating for me. The slowdown hampered my ability to effectively intercept the ball and execute special throws, aside from the incrementing difficulty of the international opponents themselves.

Ninja Gaiden is not a hard game, it's just a pain in the ass with the birds. Oh and the part where you die against Jaquio or the Demon, you're sent back to Bloody Malth's area.

3rd level in Battletoads....not hard. Volkmires Inferno level was harder than that.

TMNT has its pain in the ass moments.

Any Ghost's N' Goblins related game is irritating.

Castlequest....Don't get me started!

Metroid - Definately took me a few years to beat. Started when I was 7 and beat it when I was 12 or 13.

dragon warrior 2
not only is it long, is hard as hell!

for 5 years i have owned it, and still cant beat it! (of course, dont play it daily)

The hardest video game I played on the nes, was Super C. Even with the Konami code (which you had to put in backwards) you only got 10 lives, and that wasn't enough to beat the game.

Ninja Gaiden: because every time an enemy hit you you'd usually get knocked back a hundred meters directly to a pit.

Castlevania: because the enemies dealt way too much damage and Simon was clumsy.

Wizards & Warriors 2: because you had to battle enemies with a toothpick.

Metroid: because Samus was just as clumsy as Simon and there wasn't a map to figure out where to go.

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